Religions > Atheism > Ireland High Court Rules Against Gay 'Marriage' Citing Harm to Children
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Ireland High Court Rules Against Gay 'Marriage' Citing Harm to Children |
Thank God that sanity still reigns in some parts of this world.
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/dec/06121502.html
Ireland High Court Rules Against Gay 'Marriage' Citing Harm to Children
Refuses Recognition of Lesbian "Marriage" Staged in Canada
By Gudrun Schultz
DUBLIN, Ireland, December 15, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Ireland
High Court yesterday rejected a lesbian couple's demand to have their
Canadian "marriage" recognized in Ireland, in a landmark ruling closely
watched by both sides of the international marriage debate.
Justice Elizabeth Dunne decided against the claim of Dr. Katherine
Zappone and Dr. Anne Louise Gilligan, who had argued that the State and
the Revenue Commissioners had violated their constitutional rights by
refusing to assess them for taxes as a married couple, the Irish Times
reported yesterday.
"Marriage was understood under the 1937 Constitution to be confined to
persons of the opposite sex," Justice Dunne wrote in her lengthy
ruling.
"Having regard to the clear understanding of the meaning of marriage as
set out in the numerous authorities opened to the Court from this
jurisdiction and elsewhere, I do not see how marriage can be redefined
by the Court to encompass same sex marriage."
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| Title: Re: Ireland High Court Rules Against Gay 'Marriage' Citing Harm to Children |
15 Dec 2006 03:27:37 PM |
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In article <1166216538.971534.121170@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com> "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Thank God that sanity still reigns in some parts of this world.
Why? If He's all you say He is, then he could see to it that sanity
reigns in all parts of the world. What is he, some kind
of Gen-X slacker deity?
But back to the story at hand: why do you find it necessary to lie
about the details, and carefully trim your cut-and-pastes in order
to cover up your lies? Dunne decided on a strict-constructionist
interpretation of the Irish Constitution; not on alleged
"harm to children".
In fact she clearly stated that this latter issue was, in her opinion,
still unresolved:
In her 138-page ruling, Justice Dunne expressed concern about the effect
of same-sex marriage on children, saying the lack of conclusive research
into the results of homosexual parenting made it necessary to reserve
judgment on the issue.
"[T]here is simply not enough evidence from the research done to date that
could allow firm conclusions to be drawn as to the consequences of same sex
marriage particularly in the area of the welfare of children."
"Citing harm to children"? I think not.
If you're going to "improve" your stories a bit here and there, it would
be wisest to refrain from giving a link to the original, lest people start
checking for themselves.
-- cary
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16 Dec 2006 01:03:17 AM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Thank God that sanity still reigns in some parts of this world.
Just not your part of the world. Your part of the world is filled
with hatred justified by lies.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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15 Dec 2006 03:23:23 PM |
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J Young schrieb:
Thank God that sanity still reigns in some parts of this world.
It's quite revealing that your definition of "god", "decency" and
"sanity" necessarily implies being racist, intolerant and homophobic.
The day you post something decent, I swear I'll stop calling you a nazi
turd. Until then, why don't you go ***** yourself, nazi turd...
Oh, and how about providing us some proofs of the "harm to children"
caused by gay marriage. You won't because Ireland is even more sexually
repressed -if that is possible- than the USA.
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| User: "IBen Getiner" |
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| Title: Re: Ireland High Court Rules Against Gay 'Marriage' Citing Harm to Children |
16 Dec 2006 03:58:22 PM |
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J Young wrote:
Thank God that sanity still reigns in some parts of this world.
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/dec/06121502.html
Ireland High Court Rules Against Gay 'Marriage' Citing Harm to Children
Refuses Recognition of Lesbian "Marriage" Staged in Canada
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LOL..!! Excellent news! I've always heard it said that there are no
snakes in Ireland.
IBen Getiner
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16 Dec 2006 04:18:23 PM |
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Schizophrenic nytbar "IBen Getiner" <Lappcatt@aol.com> aka "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1166306302.303156.217400@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com...
J Young wrote:
Thank God that sanity still reigns in some parts of this world.
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/dec/06121502.html
Ireland High Court Rules Against Gay 'Marriage' Citing Harm to Children
Refuses Recognition of Lesbian "Marriage" Staged in Canada
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LOL..!! Excellent news! I've always heard it said that there are no
snakes in Ireland.
There's plenty of 'em in Tampa, eh J/IBen?
Why, here's one now (although he's pretending to be two):
From: "IBen Getiner" <Lappcatt@aol.com>
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Subject: Re: Ireland High Court Rules Against Gay 'Marriage' Citing Harm to
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Date: 16 Dec 2006 13:58:22 -0800
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From: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
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Subject: Ireland High Court Rules Against Gay 'Marriage' Citing Harm to
Children
Date: 15 Dec 2006 13:02:19 -0800
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*smirk*
Free clue, "J": you're no longer fooling anyone.
Except perhaps yourself.
LC~ Run, "J", run!
"JYoung/IBen: Ambulatory Brain Death on a Stick."
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15 Dec 2006 03:09:17 PM |
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J Young wrote:
Thank God that sanity still reigns in some parts of this world.
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/dec/06121502.html
Ireland High Court Rules Against Gay 'Marriage' Citing Harm to Children
Refuses Recognition of Lesbian "Marriage" Staged in Canada
Too bad they don't actually have evidence of this alleged harm, and
even admitted to it:
"In her 138-page ruling, Justice Dunne expressed concern about the
effect of same-sex marriage on children, saying the lack of conclusive
research into the results of homosexual parenting made it necessary to
reserve judgment on the issue."
So, like a good little goose-stepping bigot, she made a decision based
on personal opinion rather than definitive evidence - no news at 11.
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15 Dec 2006 05:24:55 PM |
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"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> writes:
"In her 138-page ruling, Justice Dunne expressed concern about the
effect of same-sex marriage on children, saying the lack of conclusive
research into the results of homosexual parenting made it necessary to
reserve judgment on the issue."
So, like a good little goose-stepping bigot, she made a decision based
on personal opinion rather than definitive evidence - no news at 11.
Oh, I wouldn't be that hard on her if it was simply a sentence or two
asking about the effect on children out of a 138 page ruling.
Probably she mentioned it because some attorney had raised the issue
and she was merely stating that definitive results are not yet
available, so her decision necessarily ignored that issue.
The research to date does not fully answer the question of whether
kids are better off with parents of the same or opposite genders,
but it does show that any difference is likely to be very small,
and regardless of the genders of the parents, having two parents
is better for the kids than having just one.
If it turns out that having same-sex parents is better or worse on
the average than having two opposite-sex parents, determining the
difference might make for an interesting publication for a professor
trying to get tenure, but if the difference is significantly smaller
than the normal difference between one set of parents and the next,
it is of no practical importance.
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| User: "Martin" |
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16 Dec 2006 11:02:20 AM |
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J Young wrote:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/dec/06121502.html
Ireland High Court Rules Against Gay 'Marriage' Citing Harm to Children
Refuses Recognition of Lesbian "Marriage" Staged in Canada
DUBLIN, Ireland, December 15, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Ireland
High Court yesterday rejected a lesbian couple's demand to have their
Canadian "marriage" recognized in Ireland, in a landmark ruling closely
watched by both sides of the international marriage debate.
This'll be overturned by the European Court of Human Rights who have
always taken a very liberal view of personal rights over government. My
betting is it won't even get that far, the court of appeal will overturn
the ruling
ECHR Article 14 states "The enjoyment of the rights and freedoms set
forth in this Convention shall be secured without discrimination on any
ground such as sex, race, colour, language, religion, political or other
opinion, national or social origin, association with a national
minority, property, birth or other status."
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16 Dec 2006 08:39:29 PM |
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On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 17:02:20 +0000, Martin <usenet3@etiqa.co.uk>
wrote:
J Young wrote:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/dec/06121502.html
Ireland High Court Rules Against Gay 'Marriage' Citing Harm to Children
Refuses Recognition of Lesbian "Marriage" Staged in Canada
DUBLIN, Ireland, December 15, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Ireland
High Court yesterday rejected a lesbian couple's demand to have their
Canadian "marriage" recognized in Ireland, in a landmark ruling closely
watched by both sides of the international marriage debate.
This'll be overturned by the European Court of Human Rights
Of course it will. Hitler was a europeon and also quite queer. You
have a history of being pervert friendly.
ECHR Article 14 states "The enjoyment of the rights and freedoms set
forth in this Convention shall be secured without discrimination on any
ground such as sex, race, colour, language, religion, political or other
opinion, national or social origin, association with a national
minority, property, birth or other status."
So bigamy, bestiality and all the other novel habits of europeons is
not far from being legalized in the EU. You need that to become what
you have always wanted to be.
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16 Dec 2006 09:07:42 PM |
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Beasty-boy "Weird Bill Taylor" <bibon@râlant.org> aka wrote in message
news:96b9o29jc4a1t650cutcqhbmcg7jqdp0fm@4ax.com...
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 17:02:20 +0000, Martin <usenet3@etiqa.co.uk>
wrote:
J Young wrote:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/dec/06121502.html
Ireland High Court Rules Against Gay 'Marriage' Citing Harm to Children
Refuses Recognition of Lesbian "Marriage" Staged in Canada
DUBLIN, Ireland, December 15, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Ireland
High Court yesterday rejected a lesbian couple's demand to have their
Canadian "marriage" recognized in Ireland, in a landmark ruling closely
watched by both sides of the international marriage debate.
This'll be overturned by the European Court of Human Rights
Of course it will. Hitler was a europeon and also quite queer. You
have a history of being pervert friendly.
ECHR Article 14 states "The enjoyment of the rights and freedoms set
forth in this Convention shall be secured without discrimination on any
ground such as sex, race, colour, language, religion, political or other
opinion, national or social origin, association with a national
minority, property, birth or other status."
So bigamy, bestiality and all the other novel habits of europeons is
not far from being legalized in the EU. You need that to become what
you have always wanted to be.
Obviously, slow-witted fucktard "Weird Bill Taylor" isn't aware of this
transcript, describing the antics of his fellow right-wing Christian
compadre Neil Horsley (in an interview with Alan Colmes):
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AC: "You had sex with animals?"
NH: "Absolutely. I was a fool. When you grow up on a farm in Georgia,
your first girlfriend is a mule."
AC: "I'm not so sure that that is so."
NH: "You didn't grow up on a farm in Georgia, did you?"
AC: "Are you suggesting that everybody who grows up on a farm in
Georgia has a mule as a girlfriend?"
NH: It has historically been the case. You people are so far removed
from the reality... Welcome to domestic life on the farm..."
http://www.foxnews.com/alancolmesradio/index.html
LC~ Sees that billy bibon is projecting his beastiality fetish yet again.
"The trouble isn't that there are too many fools, but that the lightning
isn't distributed right."~ Mark Twain
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17 Dec 2006 04:42:42 AM |
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bibon@râlant.org wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 17:02:20 +0000, Martin <usenet3@etiqa.co.uk>
wrote:
J Young wrote:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/dec/06121502.html
Ireland High Court Rules Against Gay 'Marriage' Citing Harm to Children
Refuses Recognition of Lesbian "Marriage" Staged in Canada
DUBLIN, Ireland, December 15, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Ireland
High Court yesterday rejected a lesbian couple's demand to have their
Canadian "marriage" recognized in Ireland, in a landmark ruling closely
watched by both sides of the international marriage debate.
This'll be overturned by the European Court of Human Rights
Of course it will. Hitler was a europeon and also quite queer. You
have a history of being pervert friendly.
Yet it's members of the republican party wanting to shag little boys and
american preachers visiting male prostitutes while preaching about how
bad homosexuality is.
It's american christians who plant bombs at parties and assasinate
doctors, it's american christians who drown their kids saying that god
told them to do it.
Don't take the moral high ground with me, I'd rather live in a place
that is open and honest that a repressed state where everything becomes
twisted with murder rates that make brixton look like a walk in the park.
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17 Dec 2006 07:08:10 PM |
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On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 10:42:42 +0000, Martin <usenet3@etiqa.co.uk>
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bibon@râlant.org wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 17:02:20 +0000, Martin <usenet3@etiqa.co.uk>
wrote:
J Young wrote:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/dec/06121502.html
Ireland High Court Rules Against Gay 'Marriage' Citing Harm to Children
Refuses Recognition of Lesbian "Marriage" Staged in Canada
DUBLIN, Ireland, December 15, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Ireland
High Court yesterday rejected a lesbian couple's demand to have their
Canadian "marriage" recognized in Ireland, in a landmark ruling closely
watched by both sides of the international marriage debate.
This'll be overturned by the European Court of Human Rights
Of course it will. Hitler was a europeon and also quite queer. You
have a history of being pervert friendly.
Yet it's members of the republican party wanting to shag little boys and
american preachers visiting male prostitutes while preaching about how
bad homosexuality is.
It's american christians who plant bombs at parties and assasinate
doctors, it's american christians who drown their kids saying that god
told them to do it.
Don't take the moral high ground with me, I'd rather live in a place
that is open and honest that a repressed state where everything becomes
twisted with murder rates that make brixton look like a walk in the park.
But you don't. You live in a international hostel for terrorist. A
place where health care is a fucking laugh. The people are toothless,
over fed, under fucked, ill educated and have no fucking idea that
their county is being taken over by Muslims. *****, boy.
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| User: "Martin" |
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18 Dec 2006 02:47:50 AM |
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bibon@râlant.org wrote:
I'll address just one of your points and assume the rest have equal validity
But you don't. You live in a international hostel for terrorist.
A place where health care is a fucking laugh.
U.S. has second worst newborn death rate in modern world, report says
http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/parenting/05/08/mothers.index/index.html
Crude death rates are higher in the US in general
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004395.html
Says a lot for your health service compared to that in the UK
The people are toothless,
over fed, under fucked, ill educated and have no fucking idea that
their county is being taken over by Muslims. *****, boy.
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15 Dec 2006 03:12:16 PM |
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No sanity in his world, sockpuppeting loon "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote in message
news:1166216538.971534.121170@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...
Thank God that sanity still reigns in some parts of this world.
Says the demonstrated schizophrenic of many nyms:
From: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
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Subject: Ireland High Court Rules Against Gay 'Marriage' Citing Harm to
Children
Date: 15 Dec 2006 13:02:19 -0800
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15 Dec 2006 04:02:51 PM |
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On 15 Dec 2006 13:02:19 -0800, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
Thank God that sanity still reigns in some parts of this world.
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/dec/06121502.html
No such harm has ever been shown. I suppose you favour court findings
that are based on falsehoods.
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15 Dec 2006 04:07:40 PM |
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In article <qq66o2hmcrmbtn49sdsg8aj2l1ailbm8mj@4ax.com> IAAH <iaah@dodgeit.com> writes:
On 15 Dec 2006 13:02:19 -0800, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
Thank God that sanity still reigns in some parts of this world.
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/dec/06121502.html
No such harm has ever been shown. I suppose you favour court findings
that are based on falsehoods.
No, he favors finding things in court findings which aren't there.
The court quite specifically stated that the
issue of the effects of being raised by gay parents
were, in the court's opinion, still unresolved.
-- cary
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15 Dec 2006 10:07:05 PM |
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On 15 Dec 2006 13:02:19 -0800, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
Thank God that sanity still reigns in some parts of this world.
This is the same part of the world in which kids are regularly killed
by violence between theists who claim that other theists worship the
same god, but in the wrong way?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the
type of which we are conscious in ourselves. An individual who should survive his
physical death is also beyond my comprehension,...; such notions are for the fears or
absurd egoism of feeble souls."
- Albert Einstein
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15 Dec 2006 11:27:37 PM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On 15 Dec 2006 13:02:19 -0800, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
Thank God that sanity still reigns in some parts of this world.
This is the same part of the world in which kids are regularly killed
by violence between theists who claim that other theists worship the
same god, but in the wrong way?
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Yep. That's the place.
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16 Dec 2006 12:07:04 PM |
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On 15 Dec 2006 21:27:37 -0800, "ScottyFLL" <ScottyFLL@gmail.com>
wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 15 Dec 2006 13:02:19 -0800, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
Thank God that sanity still reigns in some parts of this world.
This is the same part of the world in which kids are regularly killed
by violence between theists who claim that other theists worship the
same god, but in the wrong way?
Yep. That's the place.
One would have to be insane to call that sanity.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never
stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and
neither do we"
- George W. Bush - Aug 5, 2004
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On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 23:07:05 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On 15 Dec 2006 13:02:19 -0800, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
Thank God that sanity still reigns in some parts of this world.
This is the same part of the world in which kids are regularly killed
by violence between theists who claim that other theists worship the
same god, but in the wrong way?
Homosexuals rape and kill male children world wide on a regular basis.
for no other reason than to satisfy their sexual desires.
Jesse Dirkhising (May 24, 1986–September 26, 1999) was a 13-year-old
boy who was raped and tortured by two men in 1999. Dirkhising died
soon after as a result of his torture. Controversy ensued over the
lack of coverage in mainstream media outlets of Dirkhising's murder.
This lack of coverage was attributed to the homosexuality of the
perpetrators. In the month after Matthew Shepard's murder, Nexis
recorded 3,007 stories about his death. In the month after
Dirkhising's murder, Nexis recorded 46 stories about his.
***
The Affidavit in the Jesse Dirkhising Case
Affidavit of the Jesse Dirkhising murder
IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF BENTON COUNTY, ARKANSAS
AFFIDAVIT OF PROBABLE CAUSE TO OBTAIN BAIL
STATE OF ARKANSAS PLAINTIFF
VS
DAVIS DON CARPENTER DEFENDANT
W/M, DOB: 08-02-61
&
JOSHUA MACAVE BROWN DEFENDANT
W/M, DOB: 6-7-77
FACTS CONSTITUTING PROBABLE CAUSE
Comes now Detective Sergeant Terry Woodside of the Rogers Police
Department Criminal Investigation Division, and under oath doth state:
After extensive investigation, on September 26, 1999, the
Defendant, Joshua Macave Brown, DOB: 6-7-77, was arrested on the
charges of Capital Murder, Class Y Felony, and Rape, Class Y Felony (6
COUNTS). Defendant Davis Don Carpenter, DOB: 8-2-61, was arrested on
September 26th, 1999 at approximately 7:45 p.m., on the charges of
Capital Murder, Class Y Felony, and Rape, Class Y Felony (6 COUNTS).
The records of the Rogers Police Department reflect that on
Sunday, September 26th, 1999, at 0453 hours, Patrolman Ian Smith and
Patrolman Jason Curry responded to 1207 West Sunset Drive to assist an
ambulance crew of the Rogers Fire Department regarding a call for
medical assistance. Upon their arrival, Davis Don Carpenter, 38 years
of age, and a resident of 1207 West Sunset Drive contacted them.
Carpenter seemed very upset and repeatedly said, “He’s not breathing”.
Carpenter let the officers into the apartment and to the northwest
bedroom. Another male subject, Joshua (Josh) Brown, 22 years of age,
was standing in the hallway, completely naked, holding a flashlight
and a telephone. The officers observed a young, naked male subject,
later identified as Jesse Dirkhising (aka: Jesse Yates), thirteen
years of age (DOB: 5-24-86), on the floor in the middle of the room,
next to a mattress. Dirkhising’s genitals and abdomen were covered
with what appeared to be feces. Dirkhising’s mouth was blue, he had a
weak pulse, but he did not appear to be breathing. Patrolman Smith
also observed that Dirkhising had masking or duct tape wrapped around
his right hand. When Josh Brown was asked about the tape, he replied
that they were just playing a game. An empty prescription bottle was
observed on the mattress. In addition, Patrolman Smith observed some
pills and a razor blade on a mirror at the front entrance, which
appeared to be controlled substances and drug paraphernalia.
Rogers Fire Department Paramedics transported Dirkhising to St.
Mary’s Hospital emergency room, where he was pronounced dead at 0532
hours.
During preliminary questioning at the scene, Josh Brown assaulted
Corporal Rick Simmons, and was placed under arrest. While being
questioned by Detective Martha Armstrong after being Mirandized, Josh
Brown stated that he was Davis Carpenter’s lover. Brown also said
that he (Brown) and Dirkhising frequently tie each other up, although
not for sexual purposes. Brown stated that on this occasion he snuck
up on Dirkhising, tied his hands behind his back, placed a pair of
underwear in Dirkhising’s mouth and secured them with a bandana and
duct tape. He placed a bandana over Dirkhising’s eyes and secured it
in place with duct tape. He then placed a tee shirt over Dirkhising’s
head, and checked to ensure that Dirkhising’s nostrils were not
covered. He placed belts around Dirkhising’s knees and ankles to hold
his legs together. Brown then untied Dirkhising’s wrists and secured
them to opposite sides of the mattress. He positioned Dirkhising on
his stomach, placing pillows under his stomach. Brown then proceeded
to penetrate Dirkhising’s ***** with various items, including three (3)
fingers of his hand, his penis, a cucumber, a sausage, a banana and a
douche bottle. Brown stated at one point he prepared and administered
an enema for the victim, using his own urine as the liquid. Brown
then positioned a cucumber so that it was slightly penetrating
Dirkhising’s *****, and secured it with tape. He then went to the
kitchen, where he ate a sandwich before returning to the bedroom. Upon
his return, he found that Dirkhising was apparently not breathing.
Brown pulled the tee shirt off Dirkhising’s head, cut the tape and
bandanas away, removed the underwear from Dirkhising’s mouth and
contacted Carpenter. Brown also guessed Dirkhising to be thirteen or
fourteen years old.
Carpenter told officers that Brown woke him up and told him there
was a problem with Dirkhising. Carpenter found Dirkhising lying on
the bedroom floor with his hands bound with tape. He cut the tape and
attempted to administer CPR before calling 9-1-1.
Det. Jarod Mason interviewed Paula McVey, the grandmother of Jesse
Dirkhising (aka: Jesse Yates). Ms. McVey stated that Davis Carpenter
was a friend of Jesse Dirkhising’s mother and stepfather, who live in
Prairie Grove. She stated that for the last two or three months,
Dirkhising had been coming from Prairie Grove to Rogers to stay with
Carpenter on the weekends. She related that she was under the
impression that Dirkhising had been earning money during those
weekends by working for Carpenter at the hairstyling shop where
Carpenter worked. She stated that Carpenter had a younger male lover
who lived with him.
A search warrant for 1207 West Sunset Drive, Davis Carpenter’s
residence, was executed by detectives of the Rogers Police Department.
During the search of the residence, Detectives recovered numerous
small green pills, from the living room and bedroom, various bottles
of prescription medicine, including the controlled substance
amitryptiline, a known heavy sedative commonly used to treat
depression. Also located in the living room, were a mirror with
several of the green pills, and a small quantity of off white colored
powder suspected to be methamphetaminc. Numerous items of evidence
were recovered from the bedroom, including two cucumbers, one of which
was covered with what appeared to be petroleum jelly, the other having
what appeared to be fecal matter on it. Also located in the bedroom
was a tube-shaped sausage, as well as a crushed banana. A plastic
disposable douche bottle with the applicator secured in place with
duct tape was found amongst numerous items used in bondage. The
bondage items included numerous belts, large quantities of duct tape
and strapping tape, handcuffs, nylon rope, what appeared to be a
rubber jumprope, and electrical cord. Detectives located a mass of
items which included used duct tape, what appeared to be a shirt, a
pair of men’s brief underwear, and a bandana, which, according to a
statement by Defendant Josh Brown, were used to gag and blindfold the
victim during the rape. Numerous containers of petroleum jelly were
found throughout the residence.
In the living room, detectives discovered a computer and related
equipment that was still running. When the monitor was turned on, a
program entitled “Medical Drug Reference 4.0” was running on the
computer.
The search also revealed a piece of paper on which a note was
written to “Baby.” (Investigation has revealed that Carpenter refers
to Brown as “Baby.”) In the upper right hand of the note are listed
three types of prescription pills. The text of the note refers to
making a male (“him”) take “those pills.” It then refers to
positioning pillows beneath the male in a certain way. A different
portion of the same piece of paper says to tell “him” not to fight or
else for the next “14 hours” he will be sexually assaulted.
The search also revealed another note, addressed to an unnamed
person, which refers to a piece of meat being inserted in that
person’s *****. The note also refers to “Davis” engaging in sexual
intercourse with “you blindfolded on pills.” There is also a note
addressed to “Baby” that refers to “duct tape in place.”
The search further revealed a hand-drawn diagram depicting a
person on a bed. There are notations that refer to pillows, “tape all
the way around,” “face down,” the buttocks of the person “raised app.
2 feet.” Another note was found in the kitchen area addressed to
“baby”, and states “could cause serious damage-back to 3” sticking out
and duct tape in place.”
The search also revealed a five-page letter addressed “Hey Baby.”
The letter is signed by “Davie.” In the letter, “Davie” describes
seeing “Baby’s” “little 10 year old blond *****” at her bus stop in
the morning. “Davie” graphically describes how he can envision “Baby”
engaging in various sexual acts with her.
The search also revealed handwritten texts on a legal pad. In those
texts, the writer describes a man making a “fine crushed white powder”
from “the small oddly purple colored pill.” The writer describes him
cutting the pill in Ľ sections so that he would have “enough to do
this again in 4 hours or so, if he needed (or wanted!).” He then
describes the man giving a nine year old girl a glass of milk with the
pill powder mixed in. The writer then writes of the man laughing out
loud “knowing in 20 minutes the pill dust he’d added would render her
helpless and drunk…” He then describes in detail the man having the
girl first masturbate and then perform oral sex on him.
Also found on the kitchen table was a receipt from the Price
Cutter Food Warehouse dated September 26, 1999, at ‘0307’ hours. Items
purchased on the receipt included tape for $3.18, “Eckrich” for $2.50,
two cucumbers for $1.00 and “meat dept.” for $2.61. A package
containing one sausage was found in the refrigerator and was labeled
“Eckrich.” The sausage found in the package was consistent in
appearance with the sausage found in the bedroom.
A detailed interview was conducted at the Rogers Police Department
with defendant Josh Brown on September 27th, 1999 by Detective
Sergeant Hayes Minor. Brown told Sgt. Minor that he and the victim
had been sexually involved for approximately two months. Brown
described the sexual acts as “games” and “playing: with the victim. He
said that the morning of the victim’s death, he had performed anal sex
on the victim for the first time. In sex acts up until this point,
Brown said his penis had never penetrated the victim’s *****. Brown
told Sgt. Minor that on this occasion he used his fingers, his penis,
a cucumber, a sausage, a banana and a douche bottle to anally
penetrate the victim while the victim was immobile due to the
bindings.
Brown was questioned about Carpenter’s involvement during the rape
and told Sgt. Minor that Carpenter stood in the doorway of the
bedroom, naked, and watched Brown and the victim while he (Carpenter)
masturbated. Brown was also asked about the notes that were found in
the residence. When asked about the note found in the kitchen
addressed to “Baby” and stating “Could cause serious damage-back to 3”
sticking out and duct tape in place”, Brown stated that as he was
using the cucumber to penetrate the victim’s *****, Carpenter stood in
the doorway trying to get his (Brown’s) attention without having to
speak. When Brown walked to Carpenter, Carpenter showed him the note
indicating that he should not put the entire cucumber in the victim’s
***** as it may harm him. Brown stated he returned to the victim and
duct taped the cucumber in place as it penetrated the victim’s *****
approximately one half inch.
Brown was also shown the diagram that depicts a person bound to a
bed, much the same way Brown described the victim. He stated that the
drawing was completed by Carpenter on a much earlier date. When asked
about Carpenter’s knowledge of Brown’s and the victim’s sexual
activities, Brown stated that Carpenter had walked in on the two in
the past. After that occasion, Brown stated that he and Carpenter
talked about Carpenter watching as the victim and Brown participated
in sexual acts.
Brown was also questioned about the receipt he found in the
residence from the Price Cutter Food Warehouse dated September 26th,
1999, at 0307 hours. Brown told Sgt. Minor that Carpenter had gone to
the store alone and purchased the items, some of which were used
during the rape of the victim.
On September 27th, 1999, an autopsy was conducted on the victim by
the Arkansas State Medical Examiner. Preliminary results of the
autopsy indicate the victim died of “positional asphyxia.”
A check of Davis Carpenter’s prior record shows no known prior
convictions at this time. During conversations held with Det. Sgt.
Minor, Carpenter stated that he had lived in 26 different states, and
knew people in all 50 states. Carpenter apparently has limited family
in Springdale, Arkansas, but has lived out of state on numerous
occasions. Further investigation revealed that in the past two years,
Carpenter and Brown have lived in at least three different states,
including Florida. A records check of Joshua Brown reveals no known
prior convictions. Joshua Brown also has no known ties to the
Northwest Arkansas area.
Based on the seriousness of the offense, the substantial
likelihood of conviction, the nature of the penalty that may be
imposed, and the substantial risk of flight, the State joins me in
requesting that the Defendants, Davis Don Carpenter, DOB:08-02-61, and
Joshua Macave Brown, DOB: 6-7-77, be held without bond for the
offenses of Capital Murder, Class Y Felony, Arkansas Code Annotated
5-10-101; and Rape, Class Y Felony (6 COUNTS), Arkansas Code Annotated
5-14-103.
Det. Sgt. Terry Woodside
Rogers Police Department
212 West Elm Street
Rogers, Arkansas 72756
STATE OF ARKANSAS
COUNTY OF BENTON
Subscribed and sworn to before me this 27th day of September, 1999
Kathryn McMath
NOTARY PUBLIC
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