Irish Court: Frozen Embryos Have No Right To Life



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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Sound of Trumpet"
Date: 15 Nov 2006 03:06:38 PM
Object: Irish Court: Frozen Embryos Have No Right To Life
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Frozen embryos have no right to life-Irish court
Reuters ^ | 11/15/06
Posted on 11/15/2006 11:20:15 AM PST by presidio9
A woman lost her fight to have a child without the consent of her
estranged husband on Wednesday when an Irish judge ruled frozen embryos
did not enjoy the same constitutional right to life as those carried in
the womb.
Justice Brian McGovern said most agreed frozen embryos resulting from
infertility treatment deserved special respect but ruled "the right to
life of the unborn" in the Irish constitution did not extend to them.
"I have come to the conclusion that the three frozen embryos are not
'unborn'," the judge said in a landmark High Court ruling complicated
by the fact that existing legislation does not define "unborn."
"There has been no evidence ... to establish that it was ever in the
mind of the people voting on the Eight Amendment to the Constitution
that 'unborn' meant anything other than a fetus or child within the
womb," McGovern added.
The judgment means spare embryos frozen after successful in vitro
fertilization (IVF) in 2002 will not be returned to the mother.
She had argued an embryo's right to life meant she could be implanted
with them despite the objections of her clinic and of a husband who
left her four years ago. The couple are separated but remain man and
wife.
The case has sparked heated debate in predominantly Catholic Ireland
where abortion is outlawed except where the mother's life could be
endangered and where married couples can only divorce if they have
lived apart for four out of five years.
WHERE LIFE BEGINS
Catholic Archbishop of Dublin Diarmuid Martin said the ruling raised
"serious concerns" about the level of protection afforded to human life
under the Irish constitution.
"Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment
of conception," Martin said in a statement, referring to the Catholic
Church's doctrine on human life.
"From the first moment of his or her existence, a human being must be
recognized as having the rights of a person."
McGovern, who has asked the media not to reveal the identity of the
couple, acknowledged there was much disagreement about when life begins
but that he could not resolve that issue.
"Even within different religions, there can be disagreements as to when
genetic material becomes a 'human being'. But it is not the function of
the courts to choose between competing religious and moral beliefs."
It was now up to politicians to decide how to establish the legal
status of embryos resulting from IVF treatment, he said.
Ireland's Minister for Health and Children, Mary Harney, said her
department would study McGovern's 88-page ruling as part of plans to
regulate infertility treatment in Ireland.
The woman affected by Wednesday's judgment was married in March 1992
and had a son in 1997. She lost two thirds of her right ovary during
the removal of a cyst shortly after the birth and had a daughter in
October 2002 following the IVF treatment.
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User: "LC"

Title: Re: Irish Court: Frozen Embryos Have No Right To Life 15 Nov 2006 03:19:13 PM
Idiot spammer "Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> wrote in message
news:1163624798.830469.206750@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

A woman lost her fight to have a child without the consent of her
estranged husband on Wednesday when an Irish judge ruled frozen embryos
did not enjoy the same constitutional right to life as those carried in
the womb.

Go figure. <smirk>
Moron.
.
User: "JAF"

Title: Re: Irish Court: Frozen Embryos Have No Right To Life 15 Nov 2006 03:46:37 PM
On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:19:13 -0600, "LC" <LCisnot@this.com> wrote:


Idiot spammer "Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> wrote in message
news:1163624798.830469.206750@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

A woman lost her fight to have a child without the consent of her
estranged husband on Wednesday when an Irish judge ruled frozen embryos
did not enjoy the same constitutional right to life as those carried in
the womb.


Go figure. <smirk>

Moron.

If no-one replies to that Trumpet git, I don't have to read his drivel.
Your assistance is appreciated.
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Irish Court: Frozen Embryos Have No Right To Life 15 Nov 2006 03:59:41 PM
On 15 Nov 2006 13:06:38 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@myway.com> wrote:

A woman lost her fight to have a child without the consent of her
estranged husband on Wednesday when an Irish judge ruled frozen embryos
did not enjoy the same constitutional right to life as those carried in
the womb.

Pretty much in line with the Bible, which considers embryos and
fetuses the property of the woman's husband. You have a problem with
the Bible?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
- Isaac Asimov
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