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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
Date: 09 Jan 2007 02:45:04 AM
Object: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work of our LORD GOD Almighty.
The objective and verifiable evidence as recently posted on usenet
includes the embedded links:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f0c6bf80269dc342?
Behold in amazement and wonder the reaction of the demons and those
convicted by the Holy Spirit:
(1) A demon shows that it truly does not have free will as a satan sock
puppet:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6ffb90b2d13fef2e?
(2) Another satan sock puppet without free will:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f0c056fc096d7b1b?
(3) Yet another demon-stration of blindness:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5aac64febb348ced?
(4) A convicted neighbor embarrassing himself instead of refuting the
evidence:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4bc179713271371?
Let us continue to pray for the folks who have been convicted by the
Holy Spirit for they are in danger of unwisely rebelling and
blaspheming HIM to also become satan's sock puppets:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0deb3630fcc556cf?
Behold how these convicted souls are dying:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/55b9f72abe5705dc?
Clearly they are at a crossroads in their life:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/725921f131c086d5?
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love our neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot
more, dear neighbors, friends, and brethren whom I love
unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Meanwhile, HIS brethren have been blessed:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
.... and continue to be blessed:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee
(note: Only those who are blessed by LORD GOD Almighty, Creator of
heaven and earth, will have access to these and other related
OurLittle.net articles per a secure IP database maintained by
TheWellnessFoundation.com)
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User: "Art Deco"

Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work of our LORD GOD Almighty. 18 Jan 2007 11:54:38 PM
Joseph Batrlo <jbartlo@verizon.nat> wrote:

On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:00:46 -0700, Art Deco wrote:

Meat Plow <meat@meatplow.local> wrote:

On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:02:51 +0000, Cary Kittrell Has Frothed:

In article <pan.2007.01.18.18.50.57.624000@nntp.sun-meatplow.local> Meat
Plow <meat@meatplow.local> writes:

On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:15:44 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Has Frothed:

They having been unwittingly worshipping satan who is the prince of
lies (aka prince of this world) and have acquired his personality
traits..


You lie, everyone does. Lying does not = worshiping satan.



Ah, but perhaps it is the case that mocking The Chung is the same as
worshipping Satan?


I think you're right. Mock Chung and be cast in a lake of fire.

I mean: this is the lad who said that kill filing someone --
him, in particular -- is "acting on the thought of killing someone",
and thus is sinful. In fact, as he went on to explain to a
recently bereaved poster, the fact that the poster's deceased
mother had killfiled The Chung suggested that Jesus could
be rejecting her soul.

Given such a degree of ... creativity, would mocking The Chung
as indicative of Satan worhip be that much of a stretch?


Not in my book it wouldn't. And take notice that The Chung :) fears the
truth so he avoids replying to my posts.


You have to sock up if you want to see what happens when you corner him
with his own words, otherwise the weasely coward just runs away. I'm
really surprised he hasn't tossed Cary into the "demon" bin yet.


Ahh ok. You would think that a God-powered Chung would have the balls to
confront anyone.

Good point. After he is cornered a few times by the same person, he
invariably starts channeling the good Sir Robin.
He claims to have all knowledge via the "holy spirit", but is
surprisingly unable to discern transparently bad sockpuppets (abg gung
ur rira haqrefgnaqf gur grez, juvpu ur qbrfa'g).
.

User: "Max Grrl"

Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work ofour LORD GOD Almighty. 18 Jan 2007 01:46:17 PM
Meat Plow wrote:

On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:15:44 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Has Frothed:

They having been unwittingly worshipping satan who is the prince of
lies (aka prince of this world) and have acquired his personality
traits..


You lie, everyone does. Lying does not = worshiping satan.
Why do you continue to embarrass yourself and your colleagues?
I can't imagine anyone that would stand behind you and your arrogance.

I am the dirty ***** MaxGrrl. I have toxic discharge and I want to suck
you raw. You can stick you pet's d1ck inside me too. I love bestiality.
I am bestiality. My dad watched me blow a horse today. It'll be up on
YouTube anyminute now. I am maxWhore and I approved this message!
.

User: "Charlotte L. Blackmer"

Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work of our LORD GOD Almighty. 23 Jan 2007 11:00:16 PM
In article <eoo7ft$5l9$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>,
Cary Kittrell <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote:

In article <722uq2hn7edlodkvaika6d9a45f3mujkmk@4ax.com> Bible Believer
<noway@nowhere.com> writes:

On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:13:48 +0000 (UTC),
cary@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) claimed:


Clearly you, Cary Kittrell, remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:



And clearly you have been shown to claim things in Scripture which
simply are not there.

I wonder what your GOD thinks of such a practice.


I wonder why atheists pretend to be atheists,
when they are actually just really scared believers.

naaaaaah.

Goodbye, fool!


Oh now, don't flounce off before telling us, as a Christian --
at least I presume you consider yourself a Christian, yes? --
without telling what you think of another who insists,
and repeatedly, that the Bible somewhere informs us
that:

-- those whose blaspheme the Holy Spirit are then
magically -- POOOF!! -- transmogrified into "demons",
right there on the spot, and that

-- demons cannot act on their own volition?

Don't forget the ever-popular

-- fig trees have souls with free will


Do YOU find the above claims anywhere in the Gospels? If
so, where? And if not, what is your opinion of someone
who tells the world that it is?

I, too, am interested in the answer.
Charlotte
--
.
User: "Mu"

Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work of our LORD GOD Almighty. 24 Jan 2007 01:38:34 AM

-- demons cannot act on their own volition?
Do YOU find the above claims anywhere in the Gospels? If
so, where? And if not, what is your opinion of someone
who tells the world that it is?

On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:00:16 +0000 (UTC), Charlotte L. Blackmer wrote:

I, too, am interested in the answer.

Charlotte

Why so?
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User: "Art Deco"

Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work of our LORD GOD Almighty. 23 Jan 2007 11:10:03 PM
Charlotte L. Blackmer <clb@green.rahul.net> wrote:

In article <eoo7ft$5l9$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>,
Cary Kittrell <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote:

In article <722uq2hn7edlodkvaika6d9a45f3mujkmk@4ax.com> Bible Believer
<noway@nowhere.com> writes:

On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:13:48 +0000 (UTC),
cary@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) claimed:


Clearly you, Cary Kittrell, remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:



And clearly you have been shown to claim things in Scripture which
simply are not there.

I wonder what your GOD thinks of such a practice.


I wonder why atheists pretend to be atheists,
when they are actually just really scared believers.


naaaaaah.

Goodbye, fool!



Oh now, don't flounce off before telling us, as a Christian --
at least I presume you consider yourself a Christian, yes? --
without telling what you think of another who insists,
and repeatedly, that the Bible somewhere informs us
that:

-- those whose blaspheme the Holy Spirit are then
magically -- POOOF!! -- transmogrified into "demons",
right there on the spot, and that

-- demons cannot act on their own volition?


Don't forget the ever-popular

-- fig trees have souls with free will

New ones occur with such frequency that I'd forgotten about the fig
trees.



Do YOU find the above claims anywhere in the Gospels? If
so, where? And if not, what is your opinion of someone
who tells the world that it is?


I, too, am interested in the answer.

Charlotte

I predict more waffling and claims that he speaks for the Holy Spirit.
.
User: "Charlotte L. Blackmer"

Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work of our LORD GOD Almighty. 25 Jan 2007 01:48:11 PM
In article <230120072210038279%erfc-1024@usa.net>,
Art Deco <erfc-1024@usa.net> wrote:

Charlotte L. Blackmer <clb@green.rahul.net> wrote:

In article <eoo7ft$5l9$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>,
Cary Kittrell <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote:

In article <722uq2hn7edlodkvaika6d9a45f3mujkmk@4ax.com> Bible Believer
<noway@nowhere.com> writes:


Goodbye, fool!


Oh now, don't flounce off before telling us, as a Christian --
at least I presume you consider yourself a Christian, yes? --
without telling what you think of another who insists,
and repeatedly, that the Bible somewhere informs us
that:

-- those whose blaspheme the Holy Spirit are then
magically -- POOOF!! -- transmogrified into "demons",
right there on the spot, and that

The only thing I've seen that's close in Christian literature (and note I
said "Christian literature", NOT the Bible) is in Dante's Inferno, where
the Traitors to Hospitality are not only resident in the ninth (lowest and
far worst) circle of Hell, they have the peculiar privilege of descending
immediately to Hell on the act (without death intervening). Demons were
then sent to inhabit the earthly body of the damned person.
But this is, of course, a work of literature. Dante was a good Catholic
and there is a careful distinction between the demons and the damned (the
demons are definitely in charge).
To my knowledge, nothing in scripture supports the idea that the damned
*become* demons. Demons are generally held to be the angels that fell
with Lucifer (and there's not a lot of scriptural base for that, either,
but more from early church tradition).

-- demons cannot act on their own volition?


Don't forget the ever-popular

-- fig trees have souls with free will


New ones occur with such frequency that I'd forgotten about the fig
trees.

I've got one in my back yard; it's a constant reminder ;).
I think I saw it (with the addition of "free will") recently. But, yeah,
the demonology of the Revised Chung Version, including ROT-13 being
Satanic gibberish, has been pretty spectacular.
The hits, they keep on coming!

Do YOU find the above claims anywhere in the Gospels? If
so, where? And if not, what is your opinion of someone
who tells the world that it is?


I, too, am interested in the answer.

I predict more waffling and claims that he speaks for the Holy Spirit.

Is this "Bible Believer" a chung sock? If so, yeah, pass the syrup for
the waffles.
(Every time I see Chung claiming that the Holy Spirit is guiding one of
his untruths, I hear Bill Hick's voice in my head singing " ... sucking
Satan's pecker" alternating with the scriptural warning "The Devil can
appear as an angel of light". Wheeeee.)
Charlotte
--
.
User: "Art Deco"

Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work of our LORD GOD Almighty. 25 Jan 2007 08:08:00 PM
Charlotte L. Blackmer <clb@green.rahul.net> wrote:

In article <230120072210038279%erfc-1024@usa.net>,
Art Deco <erfc-1024@usa.net> wrote:

Charlotte L. Blackmer <clb@green.rahul.net> wrote:

In article <eoo7ft$5l9$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>,
Cary Kittrell <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote:

In article <722uq2hn7edlodkvaika6d9a45f3mujkmk@4ax.com> Bible Believer
<noway@nowhere.com> writes:


Goodbye, fool!


Oh now, don't flounce off before telling us, as a Christian --
at least I presume you consider yourself a Christian, yes? --
without telling what you think of another who insists,
and repeatedly, that the Bible somewhere informs us
that:

-- those whose blaspheme the Holy Spirit are then
magically -- POOOF!! -- transmogrified into "demons",
right there on the spot, and that


The only thing I've seen that's close in Christian literature (and note I
said "Christian literature", NOT the Bible) is in Dante's Inferno, where
the Traitors to Hospitality are not only resident in the ninth (lowest and
far worst) circle of Hell, they have the peculiar privilege of descending
immediately to Hell on the act (without death intervening). Demons were
then sent to inhabit the earthly body of the damned person.

But this is, of course, a work of literature. Dante was a good Catholic
and there is a careful distinction between the demons and the damned (the
demons are definitely in charge).

To my knowledge, nothing in scripture supports the idea that the damned
*become* demons. Demons are generally held to be the angels that fell
with Lucifer (and there's not a lot of scriptural base for that, either,
but more from early church tradition).

But keep in mind that Chung has the New Chung Version to draw from.


-- demons cannot act on their own volition?


Don't forget the ever-popular

-- fig trees have souls with free will


New ones occur with such frequency that I'd forgotten about the fig
trees.


I've got one in my back yard; it's a constant reminder ;).

I think I saw it (with the addition of "free will") recently. But, yeah,
the demonology of the Revised Chung Version, including ROT-13 being
Satanic gibberish, has been pretty spectacular.

The hits, they keep on coming!

Don't forget Chung's "LORD Jesus Christ" claim -- anyone who happens to
use "the" in front of non-all caps "Lord" is some manner of evil entity
(I forget the exact phrase he spews).


Do YOU find the above claims anywhere in the Gospels? If
so, where? And if not, what is your opinion of someone
who tells the world that it is?


I, too, am interested in the answer.

I predict more waffling and claims that he speaks for the Holy Spirit.


Is this "Bible Believer" a chung sock? If so, yeah, pass the syrup for
the waffles.

When I wrote this I assumed your post was a direct reply to Chung, and
then right after it was sent I realized the error. But now I see that
it doesn't matter.


(Every time I see Chung claiming that the Holy Spirit is guiding one of
his untruths, I hear Bill Hick's voice in my head singing " ... sucking
Satan's pecker" alternating with the scriptural warning "The Devil can
appear as an angel of light". Wheeeee.)

That was one /weird/ post.


Charlotte

.
User: "Charlotte L. Blackmer"

Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work of our LORD GOD Almighty. 25 Jan 2007 08:38:44 PM
In article <250120071908001196%erfc-1024@usa.net>,
Art Deco <erfc-1024@usa.net> wrote:

Charlotte L. Blackmer <clb@green.rahul.net> wrote:

In article <230120072210038279%erfc-1024@usa.net>,
Art Deco <erfc-1024@usa.net> wrote:

Charlotte L. Blackmer <clb@green.rahul.net> wrote:

[chung's demonology]

To my knowledge, nothing in scripture supports the idea that the damned
*become* demons. Demons are generally held to be the angels that fell
with Lucifer (and there's not a lot of scriptural base for that, either,
but more from early church tradition).


But keep in mind that Chung has the New Chung Version to draw from.

It's kinda tough to forget ;)

The hits, they keep on coming!


Don't forget Chung's "LORD Jesus Christ" claim -- anyone who happens to
use "the" in front of non-all caps "Lord" is some manner of evil entity
(I forget the exact phrase he spews).

No wonder he doesn't seem to be part of some kind of church. I should do
a count of how many times we say it some Sunday.
(But I might ask my NT-professor friend about articles and translations.)

Do YOU find the above claims anywhere in the Gospels? If
so, where? And if not, what is your opinion of someone
who tells the world that it is?


I, too, am interested in the answer.

I predict more waffling and claims that he speaks for the Holy Spirit.


Is this "Bible Believer" a chung sock? If so, yeah, pass the syrup for
the waffles.


When I wrote this I assumed your post was a direct reply to Chung, and
then right after it was sent I realized the error. But now I see that
it doesn't matter.

No, it doesn't seem to! Pass the syrup, please!

(Every time I see Chung claiming that the Holy Spirit is guiding one of
his untruths, I hear Bill Hick's voice in my head singing " ... sucking
Satan's pecker" alternating with the scriptural warning "The Devil can
appear as an angel of light". Wheeeee.)


That was one /weird/ post.

What, mine above (it's a fair cop, guv) or one of Chunginator's?
Charlotte
--
.
User: "Art Deco"

Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work of our LORD GOD Almighty. 25 Jan 2007 10:36:07 PM
Charlotte L. Blackmer <clb@green.rahul.net> wrote:

In article <250120071908001196%erfc-1024@usa.net>,
Art Deco <erfc-1024@usa.net> wrote:

Charlotte L. Blackmer <clb@green.rahul.net> wrote:

In article <230120072210038279%erfc-1024@usa.net>,
Art Deco <erfc-1024@usa.net> wrote:

Charlotte L. Blackmer <clb@green.rahul.net> wrote:


[chung's demonology]

To my knowledge, nothing in scripture supports the idea that the damned
*become* demons. Demons are generally held to be the angels that fell
with Lucifer (and there's not a lot of scriptural base for that, either,
but more from early church tradition).


But keep in mind that Chung has the New Chung Version to draw from.


It's kinda tough to forget ;)

The hits, they keep on coming!


Don't forget Chung's "LORD Jesus Christ" claim -- anyone who happens to
use "the" in front of non-all caps "Lord" is some manner of evil entity
(I forget the exact phrase he spews).


No wonder he doesn't seem to be part of some kind of church. I should do
a count of how many times we say it some Sunday.

(But I might ask my NT-professor friend about articles and translations.)

I immediately thought of John 21:7 the first time I saw him make that
claim. Unless I'm completely mistaken, the early Greek manuscripts
were not written in upper/lower case letters, so where he pulled it
from is anyone's guess. Maybe he extrapolated it from the Hebrew
tetragrammaton. Still, it would be interesting to have the insights of
an expert.


Do YOU find the above claims anywhere in the Gospels? If
so, where? And if not, what is your opinion of someone
who tells the world that it is?


I, too, am interested in the answer.

I predict more waffling and claims that he speaks for the Holy Spirit.


Is this "Bible Believer" a chung sock? If so, yeah, pass the syrup for
the waffles.


When I wrote this I assumed your post was a direct reply to Chung, and
then right after it was sent I realized the error. But now I see that
it doesn't matter.


No, it doesn't seem to! Pass the syrup, please!

Heh, don't you know? It is good to be hungry, and evil to eat food!


(Every time I see Chung claiming that the Holy Spirit is guiding one of
his untruths, I hear Bill Hick's voice in my head singing " ... sucking
Satan's pecker" alternating with the scriptural warning "The Devil can
appear as an angel of light". Wheeeee.)


That was one /weird/ post.


What, mine above (it's a fair cop, guv) or one of Chunginator's?

The one about satan's sperm:
<http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/4151a01a71772488>


Charlotte

.
User: "Charlotte L. Blackmer"

Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work of our LORD GOD Almighty. 26 Jan 2007 12:11:57 AM
In article <250120072136074450%erfc-1024@usa.net>,
Art Deco <erfc-1024@usa.net> wrote:

Charlotte L. Blackmer <clb@green.rahul.net> wrote:

In article <250120071908001196%erfc-1024@usa.net>,
Art Deco <erfc-1024@usa.net> wrote:

Charlotte L. Blackmer <clb@green.rahul.net> wrote:

In article <230120072210038279%erfc-1024@usa.net>,
Art Deco <erfc-1024@usa.net> wrote:

Charlotte L. Blackmer <clb@green.rahul.net> wrote:


[chung's demonology]

Don't forget Chung's "LORD Jesus Christ" claim -- anyone who happens to
use "the" in front of non-all caps "Lord" is some manner of evil entity
(I forget the exact phrase he spews).

Actually, that counts a lot of Bible publishers, too, so no surprise he's
doing his own revision, nu?

No wonder he doesn't seem to be part of some kind of church. I should do
a count of how many times we say it some Sunday.

(But I might ask my NT-professor friend about articles and translations.)

I immediately thought of John 21:7 the first time I saw him make that
claim.

I'm suitably impressed ;).

Unless I'm completely mistaken, the early Greek manuscripts
were not written in upper/lower case letters, so where he pulled it
from is anyone's guess. Maybe he extrapolated it from the Hebrew
tetragrammaton. Still, it would be interesting to have the insights of
an expert.

I have to review my notes about differing conventions for translating
"Adonai" vs. translating The Name before I talk to him, but Greek, of
course, is another story. I remember reading that at least one thing
translated "Lord" in the NT (the first half of John is coming to mind) was
a title of respect, not divinity.
I mean, based on Chung, we should bring back the Latin Mass! Not a
definite article in sight!
(If you happen to be coherent at 10 am Pacific on Sunday, you may amuse
yourself by the thought of me counting definite vs. indefinite Lords in
church.)

Do YOU find the above claims anywhere in the Gospels? If
so, where? And if not, what is your opinion of someone
who tells the world that it is?


I, too, am interested in the answer.

I predict more waffling and claims that he speaks for the Holy Spirit.


Is this "Bible Believer" a chung sock? If so, yeah, pass the syrup for
the waffles.


When I wrote this I assumed your post was a direct reply to Chung, and
then right after it was sent I realized the error. But now I see that
it doesn't matter.


No, it doesn't seem to! Pass the syrup, please!


Heh, don't you know? It is good to be hungry, and evil to eat food!

For sheer kicks and grins, I weighed almost all my food (what I didn't eat
out) for about a week. I can't take any diet (or "approach" - what
appalling English in the context - or "eating plan" or whatever you want to call it)
seriously that equates the following items:
* One of my breakfast sandwiches - split, toasted, and buttered English
muffin, one egg scrambled with a little milk in micro, two slices of bacon
fried crisp (this does keep me going for a while ;)).
* Medium large apple
* Small glass of not-very-sweet lemonade (no HFCS, thank you very much)
* Grilled lamb (well trimmed of fat, not that it matters on the Chung
plan) and roasted cauliflower wrap
All were 6 oz on the scale, tared.
I didn't starve under the 2-lb restriction but I wasn't getting a lot
of fresh fruit and veg, either, because they tend to weigh a lot.
I quit bothering the day it was very warm around here and I drank 32 oz of
lemonade - four glasses at a whopping hundred calories each. According to
the "approach", that's it for the day!
I could see doing something similar as a spiritual discipline for a short
time, but as a long-term thing it would take major league, big time
planning to have a well-balanced diet and eat enough to keep going.
More than I'm willing to put in, and I'm not bad at that sort of thing.
I'm down with the idea of food awareness as a help to lose/maintain weight,
and people need to be reminded that their "healthy" smoothies and
"fun" coffee drinks often pack a serious caloric punch, but
a food diary would probably work better IMO. (And I am one of those
rare long-term weight loss people.)
The "Scriptural" base is all part of the RCV. When Jesus provides food or
drink, it is always in abundance.

(Every time I see Chung claiming that the Holy Spirit is guiding one of
his untruths, I hear Bill Hick's voice in my head singing " ... sucking
Satan's pecker" alternating with the scriptural warning "The Devil can
appear as an angel of light". Wheeeee.)


That was one /weird/ post.


What, mine above (it's a fair cop, guv) or one of Chunginator's?


The one about satan's sperm:

<http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/4151a01a71772488>

Oh, that is bizarre. Any of Chung's posts along that line have been major
odd. I mean, just HOW does he know so much about the devil's ***** and the
devil's spooge? Yick.
Charlotte
--
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User: "Art Deco"

Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work of our LORD GOD Almighty. 26 Jan 2007 08:39:13 PM
Charlotte L. Blackmer <clb@green.rahul.net> wrote:

In article <250120072136074450%erfc-1024@usa.net>,
Art Deco <erfc-1024@usa.net> wrote:

Charlotte L. Blackmer <clb@green.rahul.net> wrote:

In article <250120071908001196%erfc-1024@usa.net>,
Art Deco <erfc-1024@usa.net> wrote:

Charlotte L. Blackmer <clb@green.rahul.net> wrote:

In article <230120072210038279%erfc-1024@usa.net>,
Art Deco <erfc-1024@usa.net> wrote:

Charlotte L. Blackmer <clb@green.rahul.net> wrote:


[chung's demonology]


Don't forget Chung's "LORD Jesus Christ" claim -- anyone who happens to
use "the" in front of non-all caps "Lord" is some manner of evil entity
(I forget the exact phrase he spews).


Actually, that counts a lot of Bible publishers, too, so no surprise he's
doing his own revision, nu?

I wonder how the Chung views small-caps renderings.


No wonder he doesn't seem to be part of some kind of church. I should do
a count of how many times we say it some Sunday.

(But I might ask my NT-professor friend about articles and translations.)


I immediately thought of John 21:7 the first time I saw him make that
claim.


I'm suitably impressed ;).

I must admit I did have to look it up, the numbers weren't right at
hand.


Unless I'm completely mistaken, the early Greek manuscripts
were not written in upper/lower case letters, so where he pulled it
from is anyone's guess. Maybe he extrapolated it from the Hebrew
tetragrammaton. Still, it would be interesting to have the insights of
an expert.


I have to review my notes about differing conventions for translating
"Adonai" vs. translating The Name before I talk to him, but Greek, of
course, is another story. I remember reading that at least one thing
translated "Lord" in the NT (the first half of John is coming to mind) was
a title of respect, not divinity.

I mean, based on Chung, we should bring back the Latin Mass! Not a
definite article in sight!

And thereby paying an evil "tribute to Caesar."


(If you happen to be coherent at 10 am Pacific on Sunday, you may amuse
yourself by the thought of me counting definite vs. indefinite Lords in
church.)

I'll try to remember, heh.


Do YOU find the above claims anywhere in the Gospels? If
so, where? And if not, what is your opinion of someone
who tells the world that it is?


I, too, am interested in the answer.

I predict more waffling and claims that he speaks for the Holy Spirit.


Is this "Bible Believer" a chung sock? If so, yeah, pass the syrup for
the waffles.


When I wrote this I assumed your post was a direct reply to Chung, and
then right after it was sent I realized the error. But now I see that
it doesn't matter.


No, it doesn't seem to! Pass the syrup, please!


Heh, don't you know? It is good to be hungry, and evil to eat food!


For sheer kicks and grins, I weighed almost all my food (what I didn't eat
out) for about a week. I can't take any diet (or "approach" - what
appalling English in the context - or "eating plan" or whatever you want to
call it)
seriously that equates the following items:

* One of my breakfast sandwiches - split, toasted, and buttered English
muffin, one egg scrambled with a little milk in micro, two slices of bacon
fried crisp (this does keep me going for a while ;)).

* Medium large apple

* Small glass of not-very-sweet lemonade (no HFCS, thank you very much)

* Grilled lamb (well trimmed of fat, not that it matters on the Chung
plan) and roasted cauliflower wrap

All were 6 oz on the scale, tared.

I didn't starve under the 2-lb restriction but I wasn't getting a lot
of fresh fruit and veg, either, because they tend to weigh a lot.

Exactly why his 2-pound "diet" is ludicrous -- fruits have lots of
sugar, but they also have lots of water and inedible part such as
citrus rinds.

I quit bothering the day it was very warm around here and I drank 32 oz of
lemonade - four glasses at a whopping hundred calories each. According to
the "approach", that's it for the day!

It still boggles me to see someone allegedly schooled in science so
willfully ignore the conservation of energy.


I could see doing something similar as a spiritual discipline for a short
time, but as a long-term thing it would take major league, big time
planning to have a well-balanced diet and eat enough to keep going.
More than I'm willing to put in, and I'm not bad at that sort of thing.
I'm down with the idea of food awareness as a help to lose/maintain weight,
and people need to be reminded that their "healthy" smoothies and
"fun" coffee drinks often pack a serious caloric punch, but
a food diary would probably work better IMO. (And I am one of those
rare long-term weight loss people.)

The "Scriptural" base is all part of the RCV. When Jesus provides food or
drink, it is always in abundance.

Just another example of how shallow his knowledge really is.


(Every time I see Chung claiming that the Holy Spirit is guiding one of
his untruths, I hear Bill Hick's voice in my head singing " ... sucking
Satan's pecker" alternating with the scriptural warning "The Devil can
appear as an angel of light". Wheeeee.)


That was one /weird/ post.


What, mine above (it's a fair cop, guv) or one of Chunginator's?


The one about satan's sperm:

<http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/4151a01a71772488>


Oh, that is bizarre. Any of Chung's posts along that line have been major
odd. I mean, just HOW does he know so much about the devil's ***** and the
devil's spooge? Yick.

I know, all I could do is shake my head in amazement that someone could
actually compose that with a straight face.
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User: "Charlotte L. Blackmer"

Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work of our LORD GOD Almighty. 27 Jan 2007 01:02:29 PM
In article <260120071939137701%erfc-1024@usa.net>,
Art Deco <erfc-1024@usa.net> wrote:

Charlotte L. Blackmer <clb@green.rahul.net> wrote:

In article <250120072136074450%erfc-1024@usa.net>,
Art Deco <erfc-1024@usa.net> wrote:

Charlotte L. Blackmer <clb@green.rahul.net> wrote:

(some attribs snipped, it was getting long)

I mean, based on Chung, we should bring back the Latin Mass! Not a
definite article in sight!


And thereby paying an evil "tribute to Caesar."

D'OH!!! *facepalm*
Actually there are respectable Christian scholars (etc) who think that the
Donation of Constantine, which made Christianity the official religion of
the Roman Empire, was indeed ultimately TEH EVIL and bad for Christianity.
[waffle]

No, it doesn't seem to! Pass the syrup, please!


Heh, don't you know? It is good to be hungry, and evil to eat food!

[much detail of when I tried chung's diet for grins snipped]

I didn't starve under the 2-lb restriction but I wasn't getting a lot
of fresh fruit and veg, either, because they tend to weigh a lot.


Exactly why his 2-pound "diet" is ludicrous -- fruits have lots of
sugar, but they also have lots of water and inedible part such as
citrus rinds.

There's also the whole dietary fiber thing - as a cardiologist, I would
think he would like to encourage it, as it does have benefits as far as
processing "bad" cholesterol out of the system. I realize this is
completely anecdotal, but I dropped my total count 50 points (most of it
the "bad") in about three months without meds by eating oatmeal for
breakfast and bean soup for lunch. (YMMV but, as your grandma may have
said, "it couldn't hurt".)
Seriously, eating properly on such a restriction would be a lot of work,
and it's actively harmful IMO to throw "just weigh everything" with very
little further guidance to people who have likely been making poor
nutritional choices anyway because they're overweight/have bad blood
sugar.

I quit bothering the day it was very warm around here and I drank 32 oz of
lemonade - four glasses at a whopping hundred calories each. According to
the "approach", that's it for the day!


It still boggles me to see someone allegedly schooled in science so
willfully ignore the conservation of energy.

Base metabolic rates and the like ... but he seems to not do much besides
post cut-and-paste screed to usenet so maybe he could deal with 400
calories for a day.
Me, when I'm hungry, I eat. Otherwise I'll just not be good for much till
I do.

The "Scriptural" base is all part of the RCV. When Jesus provides food or
drink, it is always in abundance.


Just another example of how shallow his knowledge really is.

We had the Wedding at Cana as the Gospel reading a couple of weeks ago.
In our evening service, we sit around and talk about it instead of having
a "sermon". One person remarked that Jesus made enough wine to get the
whole village schnockered. ;)
In rereading some of Andy's "scriptural" explanation, it also struck me
that the whole idea of *verse* divisions for the Bible is post-Gutenberg.
(The chapters came about three centuries earlier.) So going on about
16:16 meaning anything because of the numbers is just bizarre.

(Every time I see Chung claiming that the Holy Spirit is guiding one of
his untruths, I hear Bill Hick's voice in my head singing " ... sucking
Satan's pecker" alternating with the scriptural warning "The Devil can
appear as an angel of light". Wheeeee.)


That was one /weird/ post.


What, mine above (it's a fair cop, guv) or one of Chunginator's?


The one about satan's sperm:

<http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/4151a01a71772488>


Oh, that is bizarre. Any of Chung's posts along that line have been major
odd. I mean, just HOW does he know so much about the devil's ***** and the
devil's spooge? Yick.


I know, all I could do is shake my head in amazement that someone could
actually compose that with a straight face.

Maybe he lifted it from a Chick Tract ;).

"To err is human, to cover it up is Weasel" -- Dogbert

Yo!
Charlotte
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User: "Art Deco"

Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work of our LORD GOD Almighty. 27 Jan 2007 03:40:51 PM
Charlotte L. Blackmer <clb@green.rahul.net> wrote:

In article <260120071939137701%erfc-1024@usa.net>,
Art Deco <erfc-1024@usa.net> wrote:

Charlotte L. Blackmer <clb@green.rahul.net> wrote:

In article <250120072136074450%erfc-1024@usa.net>,
Art Deco <erfc-1024@usa.net> wrote:

Charlotte L. Blackmer <clb@green.rahul.net> wrote:


(some attribs snipped, it was getting long)

I mean, based on Chung, we should bring back the Latin Mass! Not a
definite article in sight!


And thereby paying an evil "tribute to Caesar."


D'OH!!! *facepalm*

Actually there are respectable Christian scholars (etc) who think that the
Donation of Constantine, which made Christianity the official religion of
the Roman Empire, was indeed ultimately TEH EVIL and bad for Christianity.

I can appreciate that position.


[waffle]

No, it doesn't seem to! Pass the syrup, please!


Heh, don't you know? It is good to be hungry, and evil to eat food!


[much detail of when I tried chung's diet for grins snipped]

I didn't starve under the 2-lb restriction but I wasn't getting a lot
of fresh fruit and veg, either, because they tend to weigh a lot.


Exactly why his 2-pound "diet" is ludicrous -- fruits have lots of
sugar, but they also have lots of water and inedible part such as
citrus rinds.


There's also the whole dietary fiber thing - as a cardiologist, I would
think he would like to encourage it, as it does have benefits as far as
processing "bad" cholesterol out of the system. I realize this is
completely anecdotal, but I dropped my total count 50 points (most of it
the "bad") in about three months without meds by eating oatmeal for
breakfast and bean soup for lunch. (YMMV but, as your grandma may have
said, "it couldn't hurt".)

Seriously, eating properly on such a restriction would be a lot of work,
and it's actively harmful IMO to throw "just weigh everything" with very
little further guidance to people who have likely been making poor
nutritional choices anyway because they're overweight/have bad blood
sugar.

I agree; I guess it just shows that a med school diploma is no
guarantee that a person is a competent doctor.


I quit bothering the day it was very warm around here and I drank 32 oz of
lemonade - four glasses at a whopping hundred calories each. According to
the "approach", that's it for the day!


It still boggles me to see someone allegedly schooled in science so
willfully ignore the conservation of energy.


Base metabolic rates and the like ... but he seems to not do much besides
post cut-and-paste screed to usenet so maybe he could deal with 400
calories for a day.

Me, when I'm hungry, I eat. Otherwise I'll just not be good for much till
I do.

When my blood sugar is low, I'm useless. This "hunger is good" mantra
is just silly.


The "Scriptural" base is all part of the RCV. When Jesus provides food or
drink, it is always in abundance.


Just another example of how shallow his knowledge really is.


We had the Wedding at Cana as the Gospel reading a couple of weeks ago.
In our evening service, we sit around and talk about it instead of having
a "sermon". One person remarked that Jesus made enough wine to get the
whole village schnockered. ;)

Another of claim that I've seen him expound is that Paul wasn't taught
by Jesus, which blatantly ignores the rather plain statements in Acts
9.


In rereading some of Andy's "scriptural" explanation, it also struck me
that the whole idea of *verse* divisions for the Bible is post-Gutenberg.
(The chapters came about three centuries earlier.) So going on about
16:16 meaning anything because of the numbers is just bizarre.

Good point.
--
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Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work of our LORD GOD Almighty. 27 Jan 2007 06:55:20 PM
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 19:02:29 +0000, Charlotte L. Blackmer did most oddly
state:

Actually there are respectable Christian scholars (etc) who think that the
Donation of Constantine, which made Christianity the official religion of
the Roman Empire, was indeed ultimately TEH EVIL and bad for Christianity.

It would've been wiser, I think, for the church fathers of the time to
decline and take the more difficult path. I also think I'd quite enjoy a
visit to such an alternity as one where that had taken place.;-{P}
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Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work ofour LORD GOD Almighty. 28 Jan 2007 08:19:28 AM
In article <koTuh.7717$gn1.297@trnddc06>,
The Secretary of HomIntern <YkR4N53909@WoeM.6Ro> wrote:

The God of Odd Statements wrote:

On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 19:02:29 +0000, Charlotte L. Blackmer did most oddly
state:

Actually there are respectable Christian scholars (etc) who think that the
Donation of Constantine, which made Christianity the official religion of
the Roman Empire, was indeed ultimately TEH EVIL and bad for Christianity.


It would've been wiser, I think, for the church fathers of the time to
decline and take the more difficult path. I also think I'd quite enjoy a
visit to such an alternity as one where that had taken place.;-{P}


Return to the mental facility from whence you escaped, as$clown!

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Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work of our LORD GOD Almighty. 28 Jan 2007 06:45:31 PM
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 14:19:28 +0000, The Doctor did the cha-cha, and
screamed:

The Secretary of HomIntern wrote:

The God of Odd Statements wrote:

On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 19:02:29 +0000, Charlotte L. Blackmer did most
oddly state:

Actually there are respectable Christian scholars (etc) who think that
the Donation of Constantine, which made Christianity the official
religion of the Roman Empire, was indeed ultimately TEH EVIL and bad
for Christianity.


It would've been wiser, I think, for the church fathers of the time to
decline and take the more difficult path. I also think I'd quite enjoy
a visit to such an alternity as one where that had taken place.;-{P}


Return to the mental facility from whence you escaped, as$clown!


Easy on! We have to love according to the Bible.

Oh, really? No choice in the matter, eh?
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Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work of our LORD GOD Almighty. 25 Jan 2007 02:00:06 PM
In article <epb1hr$8tb$3@blue.rahul.net>
(Charlotte L. Blackmer) writes:

In article <230120072210038279%erfc-1024@usa.net>,
Art Deco <erfc-1024@usa.net> wrote:

Charlotte L. Blackmer <

> wrote:

In article <eoo7ft$5l9$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>,
Cary Kittrell <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote:

In article <722uq2hn7edlodkvaika6d9a45f3mujkmk@4ax.com> Bible Believer
<noway@nowhere.com> writes:


Goodbye, fool!


Oh now, don't flounce off before telling us, as a Christian --
at least I presume you consider yourself a Christian, yes? --
without telling what you think of another who insists,
and repeatedly, that the Bible somewhere informs us
that:

-- those whose blaspheme the Holy Spirit are then
magically -- POOOF!! -- transmogrified into "demons",
right there on the spot, and that


The only thing I've seen that's close in Christian literature (and note I
said "Christian literature", NOT the Bible) is in Dante's Inferno, where
the Traitors to Hospitality are not only resident in the ninth (lowest and
far worst) circle of Hell, they have the peculiar privilege of descending
immediately to Hell on the act (without death intervening). Demons were
then sent to inhabit the earthly body of the damned person.

Hmmmm....Well, Andrew DOES seem quite inhospitable, doesn't he?


But this is, of course, a work of literature. Dante was a good Catholic
and there is a careful distinction between the demons and the damned (the
demons are definitely in charge).

On the other hand, Dante had a tendency to condemn his own personal
enemies to hell. Not unlike Chung, except that Dante's reached
a wider fan base.


To my knowledge, nothing in scripture supports the idea that the damned
*become* demons. Demons are generally held to be the angels that fell
with Lucifer (and there's not a lot of scriptural base for that, either,
but more from early church tradition).

-- demons cannot act on their own volition?


Don't forget the ever-popular

-- fig trees have souls with free will


New ones occur with such frequency that I'd forgotten about the fig
trees.


I've got one in my back yard; it's a constant reminder ;).

I think I saw it (with the addition of "free will") recently. But, yeah,
the demonology of the Revised Chung Version, including ROT-13 being
Satanic gibberish, has been pretty spectacular.

Which he refused to use, bacause it was a "Caesar cipher".
Of course, the verse Andy then quoted -- "Render unto Caesar" --
seemed to imply that Andy was refusing to render unto Caesar,
and ... well, it's all very confusing.


The hits, they keep on coming!

Do YOU find the above claims anywhere in the Gospels? If
so, where? And if not, what is your opinion of someone
who tells the world that it is?


I, too, am interested in the answer.

I predict more waffling and claims that he speaks for the Holy Spirit.


Is this "Bible Believer" a chung sock? If so, yeah, pass the syrup for
the waffles.

Naw, he's the latest incarnation of Giant "Pastor Dave" Waffle.
-- cary


(Every time I see Chung claiming that the Holy Spirit is guiding one of
his untruths, I hear Bill Hick's voice in my head singing " ... sucking
Satan's pecker" alternating with the scriptural warning "The Devil can
appear as an angel of light". Wheeeee.)

Charlotte
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User: "Charlotte L. Blackmer"

Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work of our LORD GOD Almighty. 25 Jan 2007 03:25:35 PM
In article <epb286$q6g$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>,
Cary Kittrell <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote:

In article <epb1hr$8tb$3@blue.rahul.net>

(Charlotte
L. Blackmer) writes:

In article <230120072210038279%erfc-1024@usa.net>,
Art Deco <erfc-1024@usa.net> wrote:

Charlotte L. Blackmer <

> wrote:

In article <eoo7ft$5l9$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>,
Cary Kittrell <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote:

In article <722uq2hn7edlodkvaika6d9a45f3mujkmk@4ax.com> Bible Believer
<noway@nowhere.com> writes:


Goodbye, fool!


Oh now, don't flounce off before telling us, as a Christian --
at least I presume you consider yourself a Christian, yes? --
without telling what you think of another who insists,
and repeatedly, that the Bible somewhere informs us
that:

-- those whose blaspheme the Holy Spirit are then
magically -- POOOF!! -- transmogrified into "demons",
right there on the spot, and that


The only thing I've seen that's close in Christian literature (and note I
said "Christian literature", NOT the Bible) is in Dante's Inferno, where
the Traitors to Hospitality are not only resident in the ninth (lowest and
far worst) circle of Hell, they have the peculiar privilege of descending
immediately to Hell on the act (without death intervening). Demons were
then sent to inhabit the earthly body of the damned person.


Hmmmm....Well, Andrew DOES seem quite inhospitable, doesn't he?

Trolling a support group against their repeated expressed wishes does seem
pretty inhospitable to me.

But this is, of course, a work of literature. Dante was a good Catholic
and there is a careful distinction between the demons and the damned (the
demons are definitely in charge).


On the other hand, Dante had a tendency to condemn his own personal
enemies to hell. Not unlike Chung, except that Dante's reached
a wider fan base.

Unlike Chung, Dante was ready to concede the faults of those on "his side"
- he encounters his beloved teacher, Brunetto Latini, in Hell.

I think I saw it (with the addition of "free will") recently. But, yeah,
the demonology of the Revised Chung Version, including ROT-13 being
Satanic gibberish, has been pretty spectacular.


Which he refused to use, bacause it was a "Caesar cipher".
Of course, the verse Andy then quoted -- "Render unto Caesar" --
seemed to imply that Andy was refusing to render unto Caesar,
and ... well, it's all very confusing.

Good thing the English-speaking countries finally adopted the Gregorian
calendar a couple hundred years back, or he'd be in a world of hurt.
The IRS certainly frowns on not rendering appropriately to Caesar. Some
pastors have tried that unsuccessfully.

I predict more waffling and claims that he speaks for the Holy Spirit.


Is this "Bible Believer" a chung sock? If so, yeah, pass the syrup for
the waffles.


Naw, he's the latest incarnation of Giant "Pastor Dave" Waffle.

OK.
Charlotte
--
.


User: "Sockpuppet Flying Rat Convict #42"

Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work of our LORD GOD Almighty. 25 Jan 2007 02:46:11 PM
In article <epb1hr$8tb$3@blue.rahul.net>,
says...

(Every time I see Chung claiming that the Holy Spirit is guiding one of
his untruths, I hear Bill Hick's voice in my head singing " ... sucking
Satan's pecker" alternating with the scriptural warning "The Devil can
appear as an angel of light". Wheeeee.)

and here Chunk admits to sucking the Satanic Sausage
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/4151a01a71772488
FR
.




User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work ofour LORD GOD Almighty. 18 Jan 2007 07:47:23 AM
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:41:45 -0800, Bible Believer wrote:

On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:13:48 +0000 (UTC),
cary@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) claimed:


Clearly you, Cary Kittrell, remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:



And clearly you have been shown to claim things in Scripture which
simply are not there.

I wonder what your GOD thinks of such a practice.


I wonder why atheists pretend to be atheists,
when they are actually just really scared believers.

Goodbye, fool!

And don't bother with Mat 5:22. That's about calling
A BROTHER a fool. The passage that applies to you is:

"The fool has said in his heart; There is no God.”
- Psalm 14:1

Yeah well if a fool can figure it out, what's your excuse?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism,
because it is a merger of State and corporate power."
- Mussolini
.

User: "mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges"

Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work of our LORD GOD Almighty. 17 Jan 2007 01:17:16 PM
In article <eolkfk$a2l$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>,
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:

In article <1168650234.736289.292970@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Andrew B.
Chung, MD/PhD" <love2@thetruth.com> writes:

Convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

Convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

Convicted neighbor Vicki Beausoleil (aka Percy) wrote:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

Convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

Matthew 12:32 is not going away anytime soon.


True, it will not. Nor is it going to be "improved" to say
that those who blaspheme thereby transmogrify into demons. Nor is
it even going to tell us that demons have no free will.

You, on the other hand, having free will, may continue
to pretend that it does.

you will know a tree by its fruit

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).

calling people demons is not usually regarded as an expression of love
meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
impeach the ***** - the airtight garage has you neo
.
User: "Bible Believer"

Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work of our LORD GOD Almighty. 17 Jan 2007 11:42:46 PM
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 11:17:16 -0800, mariposas rand mair fheal
greykitten tomys des anges <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> claimed:

calling people demons is not usually regarded as an expression of love

Neither is claiming tolerance, while ridiculing
Christians a sign of love. It is a sign of hypocrisy.
Bye now.
--
The Bible is the inerrant word of the living God!
If you don't believe the Bible, don't tell me that
you are a Christian. I won't believe you. To make
that claim, is to be a heretic who does not know God.
.
User: "mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges"

Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work of our LORD GOD Almighty. 17 Jan 2007 08:51:18 PM
In article <h52uq2lob3e89revsj1j23cmo737l5gtvf@4ax.com>,
Bible Believer <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

The Bible is the inerrant word of the living God!

which bible?
meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
impeach the ***** - the airtight garage has you neo
.
User: "Art Deco"

Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work of our LORD GOD Almighty. 17 Jan 2007 09:19:12 PM
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:

In article <h52uq2lob3e89revsj1j23cmo737l5gtvf@4ax.com>,
Bible Believer <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

The Bible is the inerrant word of the living God!


which bible?

The New Chung Version. Silly question.
.




User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work ofour LORD GOD Almighty. 13 Jan 2007 10:55:06 AM
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:03:58 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

Convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

Convicted neighbor Vicki Beausoleil (aka Percy) wrote:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

Convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

The objective and verifiable evidence as recently posted on usenet
includes the embedded links:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f0c6bf80269dc342?

Behold in amazement and wonder the reaction of the demons and those
convicted by the Holy Spirit:

(1) A demon shows that it truly does not have free will as a satan sock
puppet:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6ffb90b2d13fef2e?

(2) Another satan sock puppet without free will:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f0c056fc096d7b1b?

(3) Yet another demon-stration of blindness:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5aac64febb348ced?

(4) A convicted neighbor embarrassing himself instead of refuting the
evidence:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4bc179713271371?

Let us continue to pray for the folks who have been convicted by the
Holy Spirit for they are in danger of unwisely rebelling and
blaspheming HIM to also become satan's sock puppets:


And of course, as every Usenetter is aware, a `sock-puppet' is
an additional, fictitious nym adopted be some already well-known
and controversial poster, with the intent of coming on line
and pretending to be another person supporting the known, often
notorious, original.


This term is also used to describe someone who is either in such close
allegiance or otherwise completely controlled by the "notorious
original" that for all intents and purposes that someone should be
treated as the "notorious original."

So, if all the above are thus merely Satan posting from additional
accounts under phony names, where may I go to read some original
posts by Himself himself?


Because satan is the "father of all lies," all untruthfulness
originates from him.

Behold in wonder and amazement:

"Hasbeghangryl gur pbjneq jba'g tvir n cebcre npprcgnapr fcrrpu nf n
ercyl gb zl cbfg." -- satan trying to type using a sock puppet


So if a demon is a fallen angel


It is written that there are two kinds of demons, which are eternally
condemned evil spirits. The first kind is easily exorcised by the
brethren of LORD Jesus Christ by commanding their departure from the
afflicted in our Messiah's name. The second kind requires fasting and
prayer. It is written that the disciples were not able to exorcise the
second kind while our LORD walked among us as the Son of Man. It is
also written that HIS brethren were beaten by those possessed by the
second kind of demons when we attempted exorcism without fasting and
prayer.

"Jesus and Paul we know. But who are you?" -- demons of the second
kind prior to thrashing HIS brethren severely.

Fallen angels are demons of the second kind and the demon Ecipher that
you witnessed in Phillip last year was such a demon for it had the
power of clairvoyance. The Holy Spirit led me to fast and pray for 40
days to command the departure of Phillip's demon.

Demons of the first kind are eternally condemned souls and spirits of
men/women. Upon the deaths of their bodies, eternally condemned souls
become eternally condemned evil spirits. The latter are also known
secularly as ghosts. The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ can easily
exorcise these demons by simply commanding them to depart in HIS name.


Utterly unscriptural.


Not for those with discerning hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3fa4ecde07979a5a

Behold in wonder and amazement how the burning netcabal.com demon
continues to haunt usenet eternally condemned and clearly without free
will:


http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d190acd027169287?

Behold with increasing incredulity and affectionate contempt
how Andrew is unable to back up his home-brew demonology with Scripture.


Matthew 12:32 is not going away anytime soon. Those who unwisely
blaspheme the Holy Spirit are eternally condemned. It is this verse
that started the OP of this thread.

"Chung is a fucking kook!" -- LORD Jesus Christ

The Holly Spurt made me do it!
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"There is something feeble and a little contemptible about
a man who cannot face the perils of life without the help of
comfortable myths." - Bertrand Russell
.

User: "I KILLED YOUR GOD....IT WAS EASY!"

Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work of our LORD GOD Almighty. 13 Jan 2007 10:05:06 AM
you just cant win chunks.
we are the most powerfull demons of all the universe!
we only use usenet for our communications.
we have utterly destroyed your mind.
your soul belongs to us now.
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
p.s.
your wife sucks my ***** very nicely.
she's a mighty fine ***** as well.
oh-i fucked her in the *****-seems she was a virgin there-not any more.
SUCK THE ***** OF CHRIST!--Holy Spirit.
go cry in your cardboard box home.
mental midget.
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Irrefutable objective and verifiable evidence of the work ofour LORD GOD Almighty. 13 Jan 2007 10:51:57 AM
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:56:53 +0000, Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1168501857.471443.118470@77g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love11@thetruth.com> writes:

Convicted neighbor Vicki Beausoleil (aka Percy) wrote:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

Convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

The objective and verifiable evidence as recently posted on usenet
includes the embedded links:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f0c6bf80269dc342?

Behold in amazement and wonder the reaction of the demons and those
convicted by the Holy Spirit:

(1) A demon shows that it truly does not have free will as a satan sock
puppet:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6ffb90b2d13fef2e?

(2) Another satan sock puppet without free will:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f0c056fc096d7b1b?

(3) Yet another demon-stration of blindness:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5aac64febb348ced?

(4) A convicted neighbor embarrassing himself instead of refuting the
evidence:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4bc179713271371?

Let us continue to pray for the folks who have been convicted by the
Holy Spirit for they are in danger of unwisely rebelling and
blaspheming HIM to also become satan's sock puppets:


And of course, as every Usenetter is aware, a `sock-puppet' is
an additional, fictitious nym adopted be some already well-known
and controversial poster, with the intent of coming on line
and pretending to be another person supporting the known, often
notorious, original.


This term is also used to describe someone who is either in such close
allegiance or otherwise completely controlled by the "notorious
original" that for all intents and purposes that someone should be
treated as the "notorious original."

So, if all the above