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"Starlight2me" |
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02 Apr 2004 01:00:45 AM |
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Is America a Christian nation? |
The U.S. Constitution is a secular document. It begins, "We the people." and
contains no mention of "God" or "Christianity." Its only references to religion
are exclusionary, such as, "no religious test shall ever be required as a
qualification to any office or public trust" (Ate. VI), and "Congress shall
make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free
exeercise thereof" (first amendment). The presidential oath of office, the
only oath detailed in the Constitution, does not contain the phrase "so help me
God" or any requirement to swear on a bible (Art. II, Sec.I), If we are a
Christian nation, why doesn't our Constitution say so? In 1797 America made a
treaty with Tripoli, declaring that "the government of the United States is
not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." This reassurance was
written under Washington's presidency, and approved by the Senate under John
Adams.
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| User: "Kenny Leong" |
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| Title: Re: Is America a Christian nation? |
03 Apr 2004 07:40:12 PM |
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(Starlight2me) wrote in message news:<20040402020045.19505.00000502@mb-m03.aol.com>...
The U.S. Constitution is a secular document. It begins, "We the people." and
contains no mention of "God" or "Christianity." Its only references to religion
are exclusionary, such as, "no religious test shall ever be required as a
qualification to any office or public trust" (Ate. VI), and "Congress shall
make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free
exeercise thereof" (first amendment). The presidential oath of office, the
only oath detailed in the Constitution, does not contain the phrase "so help me
God" or any requirement to swear on a bible (Art. II, Sec.I), If we are a
Christian nation, why doesn't our Constitution say so? In 1797 America made a
treaty with Tripoli, declaring that "the government of the United States is
not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." This reassurance was
written under Washington's presidency, and approved by the Senate under John
Adams.
Well...let's put it this way. Does America have a nation-wide public
holiday for easter? Well, I guess that might answer your question.
Kenny L.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Is America a Christian nation? |
02 Apr 2004 08:27:14 AM |
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In article <20040402020045.19505.00000502@mb-m03.aol.com>, Starlight2me says...
The U.S. Constitution is a secular document. It begins, "We the people." and
contains no mention of "God" or "Christianity." Its only references to religion
are exclusionary, such as, "no religious test shall ever be required as a
qualification to any office or public trust" (Ate. VI), and "Congress shall
make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free
exeercise thereof" (first amendment). The presidential oath of office, the
only oath detailed in the Constitution, does not contain the phrase "so help me
God" or any requirement to swear on a bible (Art. II, Sec.I), If we are a
Christian nation, why doesn't our Constitution say so? In 1797 America made a
treaty with Tripoli, declaring that "the government of the United States is
not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." This reassurance was
written under Washington's presidency, and approved by the Senate under John
Adams.
Woohoo - Thank you, cousin John ;)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Is America a Christian nation? |
03 Apr 2004 11:13:26 AM |
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Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Starlight2me says...
The U.S. Constitution is a secular document. It begins, "We the people." and
contains no mention of "God" or "Christianity." Its only references to religion
are exclusionary, such as, "no religious test shall ever be required as a
qualification to any office or public trust" (Ate. VI), and "Congress shall
make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free
exeercise thereof" (first amendment). The presidential oath of office, the
only oath detailed in the Constitution, does not contain the phrase "so help me
God" or any requirement to swear on a bible (Art. II, Sec.I), If we are a
Christian nation, why doesn't our Constitution say so? In 1797 America made a
treaty with Tripoli, declaring that "the government of the United States is
not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." This reassurance was
written under Washington's presidency, and approved by the Senate under John
Adams.
Woohoo - Thank you, cousin John ;)
Is that Hattan?
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Is America a Christian nation? |
03 Apr 2004 01:20:52 PM |
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In article <74st601akgp26ofprbqeot6e9oa0oroki4@4ax.com>, Elroy Willis says...
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Starlight2me says...
The U.S. Constitution is a secular document. It begins, "We the people." and
contains no mention of "God" or "Christianity." Its only references to religion
are exclusionary, such as, "no religious test shall ever be required as a
qualification to any office or public trust" (Ate. VI), and "Congress shall
make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free
exeercise thereof" (first amendment). The presidential oath of office, the
only oath detailed in the Constitution, does not contain the phrase "so help me
God" or any requirement to swear on a bible (Art. II, Sec.I), If we are a
Christian nation, why doesn't our Constitution say so? In 1797 America made a
treaty with Tripoli, declaring that "the government of the United States is
not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." This reassurance was
written under Washington's presidency, and approved by the Senate under John
Adams.
Woohoo - Thank you, cousin John ;)
Is that Hattan?
No, silly, John Adams. He's my 3rd cousin 8 generations removed ;)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Is America a Christian nation? |
04 Apr 2004 03:03:57 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:20:52 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>,
Message ID: <o8Ebc.480$H4.134@www.newsranger.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
In article <74st601akgp26ofprbqeot6e9oa0oroki4@4ax.com>, Elroy Willis says...
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Starlight2me says...
The U.S. Constitution is a secular document. It begins, "We the people." and
contains no mention of "God" or "Christianity." Its only references to religion
are exclusionary, such as, "no religious test shall ever be required as a
qualification to any office or public trust" (Ate. VI), and "Congress shall
make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free
exeercise thereof" (first amendment). The presidential oath of office, the
only oath detailed in the Constitution, does not contain the phrase "so help me
God" or any requirement to swear on a bible (Art. II, Sec.I), If we are a
Christian nation, why doesn't our Constitution say so? In 1797 America made a
treaty with Tripoli, declaring that "the government of the United States is
not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." This reassurance was
written under Washington's presidency, and approved by the Senate under John
Adams.
Woohoo - Thank you, cousin John ;)
Is that Hattan?
No, silly, John Adams. He's my 3rd cousin 8 generations removed ;)
Through your biological mother or father?
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Is America a Christian nation? |
03 Apr 2004 02:21:07 PM |
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Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis says...
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Starlight2me says...
The U.S. Constitution is a secular document. It begins, "We the people." and
contains no mention of "God" or "Christianity." Its only references to religion
are exclusionary, such as, "no religious test shall ever be required as a
qualification to any office or public trust" (Ate. VI), and "Congress shall
make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free
exeercise thereof" (first amendment). The presidential oath of office, the
only oath detailed in the Constitution, does not contain the phrase "so help me
God" or any requirement to swear on a bible (Art. II, Sec.I), If we are a
Christian nation, why doesn't our Constitution say so? In 1797 America made a
treaty with Tripoli, declaring that "the government of the United States is
not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." This reassurance was
written under Washington's presidency, and approved by the Senate under John
Adams.
Woohoo - Thank you, cousin John ;)
Is that Hattan?
No, silly, John Adams. He's my 3rd cousin 8 generations removed ;)
Heh. I thought you were talking to Starlight2me. :)
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "Kate " |
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| Title: Re: Is America a Christian nation? |
02 Apr 2004 01:27:26 AM |
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On 02 Apr 2004 07:00:45 GMT, (Starlight2me)
wrote:
The U.S. Constitution is a secular document. It begins, "We the people." and
contains no mention of "God" or "Christianity." Its only references to religion
are exclusionary, such as, "no religious test shall ever be required as a
qualification to any office or public trust" (Ate. VI), and "Congress shall
make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free
exeercise thereof" (first amendment). The presidential oath of office, the
only oath detailed in the Constitution, does not contain the phrase "so help me
God" or any requirement to swear on a bible (Art. II, Sec.I), If we are a
Christian nation, why doesn't our Constitution say so? In 1797 America made a
treaty with Tripoli, declaring that "the government of the United States is
not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." This reassurance was
written under Washington's presidency, and approved by the Senate under John
Adams.
We aren't a Christian nation. Only dishonest or ignorant people
maintain otherwise.
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| User: "The Jester" |
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| Title: Re: Is America a Christian nation? |
05 Apr 2004 09:05:21 AM |
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(Kate ) wrote in message news:<40721510.405056140@news-west.newscene.com>...
On 02 Apr 2004 07:00:45 GMT, (Starlight2me)
wrote:
The U.S. Constitution is a secular document. It begins, "We the people." and
contains no mention of "God" or "Christianity." Its only references to religion
are exclusionary, such as, "no religious test shall ever be required as a
qualification to any office or public trust" (Ate. VI), and "Congress shall
make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free
exeercise thereof" (first amendment). The presidential oath of office, the
only oath detailed in the Constitution, does not contain the phrase "so help me
God" or any requirement to swear on a bible (Art. II, Sec.I), If we are a
Christian nation, why doesn't our Constitution say so? In 1797 America made a
treaty with Tripoli, declaring that "the government of the United States is
not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." This reassurance was
written under Washington's presidency, and approved by the Senate under John
Adams.
We aren't a Christian nation. Only dishonest or ignorant people
maintain otherwise.
I'll disagree, slightly.
Officially and legally, the US is not in any way, shape, or form a
Christian state. As is mentioned above, look at the Treaty of
Tripoli. The only mention of *any* divinity in the central document
of our government is "In the year of our Lord." Theoretically, this
shouldn't even be a question.
In practice, however, the US most certainly is a Christian state.
Look at The Passion of the Christ, a glorified snuff film breaking
records at the box office. Look at Glorious Appearing, a crappy book
that is near the top of the best seller lists. Try telling your
neighbors and friends that you are *not* a Christian. Unless you
immediately follow up with an "acceptable" alternative, most will look
at you as if you'd just said you like to kill puppies in your spare
time.
<Sarcasm> But, of course, *they're* the ones being persecuted.
</Sarcasm>
-The Jester, 774
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