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"stoney" |
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03 Jul 2007 02:41:42 AM |
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Is America A 'Christian Nation'? |
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/2006/12/is_america_a_christian_nation/comments.html
Is America A 'Christian Nation'?
Some politically conservative Christians say that America is "a
Christian nation," and at this time of year, with the country saturated
with Christmas imagery, it can seem that they are right. Are they? Is
America a "Christian nation"? Should it be?
/quote
Those Christians are casually and unrepentantly bearing false witness in
violation of the Ten Suggestions. America isn't a Christian Nation[tm].
It never was set up to be as the Founding Fathers were well aware of the
inhumanities and injustices when superstition rules. The writings of
several of the Founding Fathers, as well as Article 11 of the 1796
Treaty of Tripoli ratified by Congress and signed by the President flat
states the fact.
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
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| User: "Lars Eighner" |
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| Title: Re: Is America A 'Christian Nation'? |
03 Jul 2007 03:26:58 AM |
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In our last episode, <kvuj83dr05p7i09hcmuebo2g90887us48s@4ax.com>, the
lovely and talented stoney broadcast on alt.atheism:
Those Christians are casually and unrepentantly bearing false witness in
violation of the Ten Suggestions. America isn't a Christian Nation[tm].
It never was set up to be as the Founding Fathers were well aware of the
inhumanities and injustices when superstition rules. The writings of
several of the Founding Fathers, as well as Article 11 of the 1796
Treaty of Tripoli ratified by Congress and signed by the President flat
states the fact.
When I was in school the first chapter of American history was the Plymoth
colony with the Mayflower Compact and the second chapter was the Declaration
of Independence. That, of course, was complete ***** by omission.
This is a particularly good year to remember that Plymoth was not the first
English settlement in America. Plymoth was not the first. The Mayflower
compact was of dubious legality. The colony was a dismal failure by just
about every measure. It was an economic disaster, dissolved and reorganized
several times, and finally dissolved in 1691. By the time of the
Declaration of Independence, descendants of survivors were not an
identifiable social, political, or economic force within Massachusetts, much
less in the colonies as a whole. In the meantime, the excesses of religious
rule --- the witch trials, the various exilings and shunnings, and so forth
--- had given Americans plenty of time to conclude that civil government was
best.
--
Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> <http://myspace.com/larseighner>
Countdown: 567 days to go.
Friends of Lizbeth: help replace failed a/c at Austin's no-kill shelter
<https://secure.groundspring.org/dn/index.php?aid=12349>
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Is America A 'Christian Nation'? |
03 Jul 2007 05:23:37 AM |
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On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:41:42 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/2006/12/is_america_a_christian_nation/comments.html
Is America A 'Christian Nation'?
Some politically conservative Christians say that America is "a
Christian nation," and at this time of year, with the country saturated
with Christmas imagery, it can seem that they are right. Are they? Is
America a "Christian nation"? Should it be?
It's returning more so every day.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Witziges Rätsel" |
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| Title: Re: Is America A 'Christian Nation'? |
03 Jul 2007 07:45:43 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> supposed in message
news:ks8k83tlh9ujbqbcbluoted9epnju4tp5d@4ax.com...
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:41:42 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
Is America A 'Christian Nation'?
Some politically conservative Christians say that America is "a
Christian nation," and at this time of year, with the country saturated
with Christmas imagery, it can seem that they are right. Are they? Is
America a "Christian nation"? Should it be?
It's returning more so every day.
Isn't that the reason for rising crime rates, frequent
political corruption, and fading scholastic ability?
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: Is America A 'Christian Nation'? |
03 Jul 2007 07:21:52 PM |
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"Witziges Rätsel" <zer@roer.com> wrote in news:Xxrii.3400$za5.563
@trndny09:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> supposed in message
news:ks8k83tlh9ujbqbcbluoted9epnju4tp5d@4ax.com...
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:41:42 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
Is America A 'Christian Nation'?
Some politically conservative Christians say that America is "a
Christian nation," and at this time of year, with the country
saturated
with Christmas imagery, it can seem that they are right. Are they? Is
America a "Christian nation"? Should it be?
It's returning more so every day.
Isn't that the reason for rising crime rates, frequent
political corruption, and fading scholastic ability?
He calls it "paradise."
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
Help Prevent Projectile Stupidity
Duct-Tape a Fundie's Mouth Shut Today!
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Is America A 'Christian Nation'? |
03 Jul 2007 09:03:17 PM |
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On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 12:45:43 GMT, "Witziges Rätsel" <zer@roer.com>
wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> supposed in message
news:ks8k83tlh9ujbqbcbluoted9epnju4tp5d@4ax.com...
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:41:42 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
Is America A 'Christian Nation'?
Some politically conservative Christians say that America is "a
Christian nation," and at this time of year, with the country saturated
with Christmas imagery, it can seem that they are right. Are they? Is
America a "Christian nation"? Should it be?
It's returning more so every day.
Isn't that the reason for rising crime rates, frequent
political corruption, and fading scholastic ability?
Deteriorating weather, terrorism, nations all against us ...
The "returning more so every day" - if it were really occurring, which
it isn't - wouldn't seem to be pleasing to the Christian God.
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| User: "duke" |
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03 Jul 2007 04:00:49 PM |
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On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 12:45:43 GMT, "Witziges Rätsel" <zer@roer.com> wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> supposed in message
news:ks8k83tlh9ujbqbcbluoted9epnju4tp5d@4ax.com...
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:41:42 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
Is America A 'Christian Nation'?
Some politically conservative Christians say that America is "a
Christian nation," and at this time of year, with the country saturated
with Christmas imagery, it can seem that they are right. Are they? Is
America a "Christian nation"? Should it be?
It's returning more so every day.
Isn't that the reason for rising crime rates, frequent
political corruption, and fading scholastic ability?
No, atheism is.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Is America A 'Christian Nation'? |
03 Jul 2007 06:09:25 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> bloodied us up
with this:
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 12:45:43 GMT, "Witziges Rätsel" <zer@roer.com>
wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> supposed in message
news:ks8k83tlh9ujbqbcbluoted9epnju4tp5d@4ax.com...
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:41:42 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
Is America A 'Christian Nation'?
Some politically conservative Christians say that America is "a
Christian nation," and at this time of year, with the country
saturated
with Christmas imagery, it can seem that they are right. Are they? Is
America a "Christian nation"? Should it be?
It's returning more so every day.
Isn't that the reason for rising crime rates, frequent
political corruption, and fading scholastic ability?
No, atheism is.
You've gotten to the point where you'll say anything to get a rise out of
us, no matter how stupid.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Is America A 'Christian Nation'? |
03 Jul 2007 10:02:14 AM |
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On 3 Jul., 12:23, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:41:42 -0700, stoney <sto...@the.net> wrote:
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/2006/12/is_america_a_chris...
Is America A 'Christian Nation'?
Some politically conservative Christians say that America is "a
Christian nation," and at this time of year, with the country saturated
with Christmas imagery, it can seem that they are right. Are they? Is
America a "Christian nation"? Should it be?
It's returning more so every day.
Which is quite frightening...
Do we need ANOTHER country led by religious wackos?
More: a country with nuclear weapons?
You can always tell the degree of evolution of a society by the
distance it keeps with religion... the farthest, the best since
religion has always opposed to art, science, culture and social
equality.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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03 Jul 2007 02:24:18 PM |
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wrote:
On 3 Jul., 12:23, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:41:42 -0700, stoney <sto...@the.net> wrote:
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/2006/12/is_america_a_chris...
Is America A 'Christian Nation'?
Some politically conservative Christians say that America is "a
Christian nation," and at this time of year, with the country saturated
with Christmas imagery, it can seem that they are right. Are they? Is
America a "Christian nation"? Should it be?
It's returning more so every day.
Which is quite frightening...
Do we need ANOTHER country led by religious wackos?
More: a country with nuclear weapons?
You can always tell the degree of evolution of a society by the
distance it keeps with religion... the farthest, the best since
religion has always opposed to art, science, culture and social
equality.
And the less affluent any geographical area is, the more stringent is
its religion.
--
Uncle Vic
2011
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| User: "duke" |
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03 Jul 2007 04:03:23 PM |
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On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 08:02:14 -0700, wrote:
Some politically conservative Christians say that America is "a
Christian nation," and at this time of year, with the country saturated
with Christmas imagery, it can seem that they are right. Are they? Is
America a "Christian nation"? Should it be?
It's returning more so every day.
Which is quite frightening...
Do we need ANOTHER country led by religious wackos?
Christians are not muslims.
More: a country with nuclear weapons?
You can always tell the degree of evolution of a society by the
distance it keeps with religion... the farthest, the best since
religion has always opposed to art, science, culture and social
equality.
Well, let's see - queers, lesbians, abortion queens, same sex "marriage", living
together, murder, drugs, robbery, terrorism, etc are the marks of an atheist,
not a Christian.
, ,
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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03 Jul 2007 06:14:26 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> bloodied us up
with this:
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 08:02:14 -0700, wrote:
Some politically conservative Christians say that America is "a
Christian nation," and at this time of year, with the country
saturated with Christmas imagery, it can seem that they are right.
Are they? Is America a "Christian nation"? Should it be?
It's returning more so every day.
Which is quite frightening...
Do we need ANOTHER country led by religious wackos?
Christians are not muslims.
Muslims are not donuts.
Your statement and mine have something in common. They are both non-
sequiturs in context with the statement we're replying to.
More: a country with nuclear weapons?
You can always tell the degree of evolution of a society by the
distance it keeps with religion... the farthest, the best since
religion has always opposed to art, science, culture and social
equality.
Well, let's see - queers, lesbians, abortion queens, same sex
"marriage", living together, murder, drugs, robbery, terrorism, etc
are the marks of an atheist, not a Christian.
Didn't you once say you never lie in the NG?
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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03 Jul 2007 10:02:01 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> writes:
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:41:42 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/2006/12/is_america_a_christian_nation/comments.html
Is America A 'Christian Nation'?
Some politically conservative Christians say that America is "a
Christian nation," and at this time of year, with the country saturated
with Christmas imagery, it can seem that they are right. Are they? Is
America a "Christian nation"? Should it be?
It's returning more so every day.
....except that this time, the non-believers shoot back.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: October 2007, date/place/opponent TBA
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| User: "GreyHairedFart throwaway1833.hotmail.com" |
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03 Jul 2007 08:10:55 AM |
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stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in
news:kvuj83dr05p7i09hcmuebo2g90887us48s@4ax.com:
Is America A 'Christian Nation'?
And that begs the question, Which type of Christian. Are we talking
about the Christians of the Plymouth colony who essentially said "Hey,
let us pray to our god in our own way" or are we talking about the
modern evangelicals who acts much like the King of England and Primate
of the Anglican Church (a Christian denomination) who could say "Pray
like I tell you or I will send someone to beat the ***** out of you".
The true irony is that these totally contradictory notions are
considered "Good Christian Values"
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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03 Jul 2007 08:39:28 AM |
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On 03 Jul 2007 13:10:55 GMT, GreyHairedFart
<throwaway1833.hotmail.com> wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in
news:kvuj83dr05p7i09hcmuebo2g90887us48s@4ax.com:
Is America A 'Christian Nation'?
And that begs the question, Which type of Christian. Are we talking
about the Christians of the Plymouth colony who essentially said "Hey,
let us pray to our god in our own way" or are we talking about the
....and persecute those who don't
modern evangelicals who acts much like the King of England and Primate
of the Anglican Church (a Christian denomination) who could say "Pray
like I tell you or I will send someone to beat the ***** out of you".
Just like the Puritans.
The true irony is that these totally contradictory notions are
considered "Good Christian Values"
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| User: "GreyHairedFart throwaway1833.hotmail.com" |
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03 Jul 2007 05:39:48 PM |
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Christopher A.Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote in
news:abkk83t6qq9kaq2kkrdkrd9p4m9snovhri@4ax.com:
And that begs the question, Which type of Christian. Are we talking
about the Christians of the Plymouth colony who essentially said
"Hey, let us pray to our god in our own way" or are we talking about
the
...and persecute those who don't
Oh yeah, those Puritans and Calvinists were real pieces of work but I
referring to those like Roger Williams who was exiled from
Massachusetts and goes on to build a religious haven in Rhode Island.
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| User: "Geoff" |
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03 Jul 2007 09:29:35 AM |
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Christopher A.Lee wrote:
On 03 Jul 2007 13:10:55 GMT, GreyHairedFart
<throwaway1833.hotmail.com> wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in
news:kvuj83dr05p7i09hcmuebo2g90887us48s@4ax.com:
Is America A 'Christian Nation'?
And that begs the question, Which type of Christian. Are we talking
about the Christians of the Plymouth colony who essentially said
"Hey, let us pray to our god in our own way" or are we talking about
the
...and persecute those who don't
Damn...I was going to say that. The Puritans were huge fucking hypocrites.
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