"DoublEE" <tribefanREMOVETHIS@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:05:02 +0530, "dotslash" <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:
<snip>

No, we're a nation of cross-posting loser trolls.



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Cleveland, Ohio

Here it is one more time, if it makes you MORE HAPPY.

America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter, and lose
our
freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we
are
to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and
servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
Theodore Roosevelt

This [the U.S. Constitution] is likely to be administered for a course of
years and then end in despotism... when the people shall become so
corrupted
as to need despotic government, being incapable of any other."
Benjamin Franklin

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin, 1759

The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the
major media."
Former CIA Director William Colby

" It is the function of the CIA to keep the world unstable and to
propagandize the American people to hate, so we will let the establishment
spend any amount of money on arms. "
John Stockwell

Odd that Bush and Cheney are so delighted to put us at war when, during
Vietnam, they were both what we used to call draft dodgers."
a World War II veteran

"The modern susceptibility to conformity and obedience to authority
indicates that the truth endorsed by authority is likely to be accepted as
such by a majority of people, who are innately obedient to authority. This
obedience-truth will then become a consensus-truth accepted by many
individuals unable to stand alone against the majority. In this way, the
truth promulgated by the propaganda system - however irrational - stands a
good chance of becoming the consensus, and may come to seem self-evident
common sense."
David Edwards

"Americans are the best entertained and the least informed people in the
world."
Neil Postman

"Americans cannot escape a certain responsibility for what is done in our
name around the world. In a democracy, even one as corrupted as ours,
ultimate authority rests with the people. We empower the government with
our
votes, finance it with our taxes, bolster it with our silent acquiescence.
If we are passive in the face of America's official actions overseas, we
in
effect endorse them."
Mark Hertzgaard

Individuals have international duties which transcend the national
obligations of obedience ... Therefore [individual citizens] have the duty
to violate domestic laws to prevent crimes against peace and humanity from
occurring."
Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal, 1950

The enormous gap between what US leaders do in the world and what
Americans
think their leaders are doing is one of the great propaganda
accomplishments
of the dominant political mythology. "
Michael Parenti


"The United States is no longer the nation its citizens once thought: a
place, unlike most others in the world, free from censorship and thought
police, where people can say what they want, when they want to, about
their
government... Until the citizens of this land aggressively defend their
First Amendment rights of free speech, there is little hope that the march
to censorship will be reversed. The survival of the cornerstone of the
Bill
of Rights is at stake."
Angus Mackenzie, Secrets

"Our rulers for more than half a century have made sure that we are never
to
be told the truth about anything that our government has done to other
people."
Gore Vidal

"There is no doubt that if we lived in a police state, it would be easier
to
catch terrorists. If we lived in a country where the police were allowed
to
search your home at any time for any reason; if we lived in a country
where
the government is entitled to open your mail, eavesdrop on your phone
conversations, or intercept your e-mail communications; if we lived in a
country where people could be held indefinitely based ... on mere
suspicion
that they are up to no good, the government would probably discover and
arrest more terrorists, or would-be terrorists.... But that wouldn't be a
country in which we would want to live."
Senator Russ Feingold

" The corporate grip on opinion in the United States is one of the wonders
of the Western world. No First World country has ever managed to eliminate
so entirely from its media all objectivity - much less dissent."
Gore Vidal

" Not a nut or bolt shall reach Chile under Allende. Once Allende comes to
power we shall do all within our power to condemn Chile and all Chileans
to
utmost deprivation and poverty..."
U.S. Ambassador to Chile

It is a paradox that the nation that did so much to articulate and codify
human rights in its foundation documents has so consistently resisted the
effective functioning of an international framework to protect these
principles and values."
Amnesty International


"The U.S. ranks last among developed countries in the percentage of its
GNP
(0.11%) given in aid. On average, governments in the European Union
contribute three times as much of their GNP (0.33%) in non-military
foreign
aid."
Friends Committee on National Legislation

I know of no country in which there is so little independence of mind and
real freedom of discussion as in America. "
Alexis de Tocqueville

" Throughout the world, on any given day, a man, woman or child is likely
to
be displaced, tortured, killed or "disappeared", at the hands of
governments
or armed political groups. More often than not, the United States shares
the
blame."
Amnesty International

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/FBI/FBI_watch.html

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/CIA_ThirdWorld.html

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Authors/Quotations_page.html

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/NSA/NSA_page.html

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/NSA/Lawless_State.html

http://www.datafilter.com/mc

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Stockwell/John_Stockwell.html

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:22:14 -0500, Phil <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> said
in alt.atheism:

"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do."
Benjamin Franklin.

"There are none so blind as those who will not see."
- Various

Phil <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote:

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:05:02 +0530, "dotslash" <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary

deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin, 1759

"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do."
Benjamin Franklin.

"Those who base their opinions on outdated and out-of-context
aphorisms deserve nothing more than derision and scorn."
Joel Plutchak, 2004

Phil <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote:

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:05:02 +0530, "dotslash" <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin, 1759

"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do."
Benjamin Franklin.

"Those who base their opinions on outdated and out-of-context
aphorisms deserve nothing more than derision and scorn."
Joel Plutchak, 2004