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"HVAC" |
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09 Sep 2007 04:01:06 AM |
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Is America At War? |
That's the question.
It appears that many people feel that we are not. I disagree.
If we choose to bury our heads, then those heads will be chopped
off with as much pity as a man swats a fly.
I have no doubt that we, the people of America, will ultimately win.
Science always wins over religion. It is inevitable.
The only question remaining is how much suffering will we endure along
the way..... How many 9/11's, how many Cole's, how many future
tragedies
will we take before all Americans realize that we are, in fact, at war.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Is America At War? |
09 Sep 2007 12:36:19 PM |
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HVAC <MR.H...@gmail.com> wrote:
That's the question.
It appears that many people feel that we are not. I disagree.
You diagree with Bush, when it's convenient for him.
If we were at war, what would we do it anyone who outted a
deep undercover CIA operative whose job was to track
efforts by rogue nations to develop WMDs?
We'd hang them.
And what idiot would cut taxes during a war?
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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| Title: Re: Is America At War? |
09 Sep 2007 12:37:35 PM |
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On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 10:36:19 -0700, in alt.atheism
JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote in
<1189359379.705396.324440@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>:
HVAC <MR.H...@gmail.com> wrote:
That's the question.
It appears that many people feel that we are not. I disagree.
You diagree with Bush, when it's convenient for him.
If we were at war, what would we do it anyone who outted a
deep undercover CIA operative whose job was to track
efforts by rogue nations to develop WMDs?
We'd hang them.
And what idiot would cut taxes during a war?
The same one who thinks it's just fine that a CIA operative was outed.
George is not running a war. He does not want to win.
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| User: "ike milligan" |
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| Title: Re: Is America At War? |
09 Sep 2007 05:31:10 PM |
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"HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189328466.442747.125200@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
That's the question.
It appears that many people feel that we are not. I disagree.
If we choose to bury our heads, then those heads will be chopped
off with as much pity as a man swats a fly.
I have never buried my head. It would seem to be very difficult to wield a
shovel without cutting off your head first.
I have no doubt that we, the people of America, will ultimately win.
I have tried but lost the lottery so far.
Science always wins over religion. It is inevitable.
What is?
The only question remaining is how much suffering will we endure along
the way..... How many 9/11's, how many Cole's, how many future
tragedies
will we take before all Americans realize that we are, in fact, at war.
Then what?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Is America At War? |
11 Sep 2007 07:17:39 AM |
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It was my understanding from the Google description of this group
(alt.alien.research) that the group topic was aliens from other
planets. If this is to become another Bush-bashing process, why does
it keep its current description?
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| User: "The Kat" |
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| Title: Re: Is America At War? |
11 Sep 2007 07:41:04 AM |
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 05:17:39 -0700, "mholt@ohiohills.com"
<mholt@ohiohills.com> wrote:
It was my understanding from the Google description of this group
(alt.alien.research)
Why are you posting to 3 OTHER groups
if you only want to comment on ONE group??
--
Lumber Cartel (tinlc) #2063. Spam this account at your own risk.
This sig censored by the Office of Home, Land & Planet Insecurity...
Remove XYZ to email me
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Is America At War? |
09 Sep 2007 07:36:06 AM |
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On 9 sep, 11:01, HVAC <MR.H...@gmail.com> wrote:
That's the question.
It appears that many people feel that we are not. I disagree.
If we choose to bury our heads, then those heads will be chopped
off with as much pity as a man swats a fly.
I have no doubt that we, the people of America, will ultimately win.
Science always wins over religion. It is inevitable.
The only question remaining is how much suffering will we endure along
the way..... How many 9/11's, how many Cole's, how many future
tragedies
will we take before all Americans realize that we are, in fact, at war.
Just go to Afganistan or Iraq
then you will find out what being at war reallly means.
The USA - I think - hasn't any real war experience since General Lee
capitulated.
For US citizens war is something that happens in far away countries I
gather.
Well blessed are they
And blessed am I
(even the Indonesion independence war was finished before I was born)
Peter van Velzen
September 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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| User: "eyelessgame" |
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| Title: Re: Is America At War? |
14 Sep 2007 02:24:22 PM |
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On Sep 9, 2:01 am, HVAC <MR.H...@gmail.com> wrote:
That's the question.
It appears that many people feel that we are not. I disagree.
If we choose to bury our heads, then those heads will be chopped
off with as much pity as a man swats a fly.
[snip]
Newsgroups: alt.alien.research, alt.paranormal.crop-circles, alt.atheism, sci.skeptic
To which group was this intended? I'm not sure it's on-topic for any
of them.
For the record: wars are between nations. No nation was responsible
for 9/11. Therefore 9/11 was a crime, not an act of war. This simple
observation, oddly, seems to enrage a lot of people.
Now, the nation that sheltered the criminal responsible for planning
the 9/11 crime refused to turn him over, and in fact was known to
shelter him and others like him. The world agreed this constituted
casus belli. The entirely justifiable, if incompetently prosecuted,
Afghanistan war was the result.
But the attack on the Cole, the hijackings of 9/11, and the anthrax
mail poisonings were crimes, not acts of war. It just happens that
the perpetrators are still at large. Some of us suspect this is by
design -- if bin Laden were caught, there would be no "enemy" still
"out there" for us to keep killing our soldiers pretending to try to
find.
Of course, at this point, we've fucked up the Middle East so far past
its normal default state of fuckeduppedness that my children will be
dealing with the ramifications all their lives.
This is what happens when the leader of the free world has an IQ of
about 80 and is surrounded by a cabal of evil, greedy, shortsighted
men.
eyelessgame
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| User: "jcon" |
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| Title: Re: Is America At War? |
10 Sep 2007 02:20:36 PM |
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On Sep 9, 4:01 am, HVAC <MR.H...@gmail.com> wrote:
That's the question.
It appears that many people feel that we are not. I disagree.
If we choose to bury our heads, then those heads will be chopped
off with as much pity as a man swats a fly.
I have no doubt that we, the people of America, will ultimately win.
Science always wins over religion. It is inevitable.
The only question remaining is how much suffering will we endure along
the way..... How many 9/11's, how many Cole's, how many future
tragedies
will we take before all Americans realize that we are, in fact, at war.
Time to dust off the Goering quote:
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/goering.htm
-jc
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| User: "" |
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14 Sep 2007 03:23:22 PM |
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On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 02:01:06 -0700, HVAC <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
I have no doubt that we, the people of America, will ultimately win.
One Euro buys 1.39 US $.
Next year that will be 1.60 US $.
Crude oil is 80 US $ per barrel -
next year it may be 90 to 100 US $.
You are winning, indeed :-)))
C.
P.S.:
The Debt to the Penny
Public Debt Outstanding
9,016,288,006,279.21
********************
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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| Title: Re: Is America At War? |
09 Sep 2007 09:07:42 AM |
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On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 02:01:06 -0700, in alt.atheism
HVAC <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote in
<1189328466.442747.125200@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>:
That's the question.
It appears that many people feel that we are not. I disagree.
If we choose to bury our heads, then those heads will be chopped
off with as much pity as a man swats a fly.
I have no doubt that we, the people of America, will ultimately win.
Science always wins over religion. It is inevitable.
The only question remaining is how much suffering will we endure along
the way..... How many 9/11's, how many Cole's, how many future
tragedies
will we take before all Americans realize that we are, in fact, at war.
Have you volunteered to join the occupation of Iraq, a country that had
nothing to do with 9/11? Are you celebrating that George Bush has ignore
Bin Laden for the last six years?
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| User: "mike3" |
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| Title: Re: Is America At War? |
11 Sep 2007 11:50:10 PM |
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On Sep 9, 8:07 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 02:01:06 -0700, in alt.atheism
HVAC <MR.H...@gmail.com> wrote in
<1189328466.442747.125...@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>:
That's the question.
It appears that many people feel that we are not. I disagree.
If we choose to bury our heads, then those heads will be chopped
off with as much pity as a man swats a fly.
I have no doubt that we, the people of America, will ultimately win.
Science always wins over religion. It is inevitable.
The only question remaining is how much suffering will we endure along
the way..... How many 9/11's, how many Cole's, how many future
tragedies
will we take before all Americans realize that we are, in fact, at war.
Have you volunteered to join the occupation of Iraq, a country that had
nothing to do with 9/11? Are you celebrating that George Bush has ignore
Bin Laden for the last six years?
Me? Nope. Not at all and don't want to even think about it. I hate the
occupation, why go and aid in it?
HVAC? I dunno.
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