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User: "jombithedjinn"
Date: 19 May 2006 02:48:14 PM
Object: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already?
It was kind of neat when Toy Story first came out. I remember thinking
"wow, a whole movie in CGI, how novel." Then Antz and A Bug's Life came
out, and even back then we were kind of getting the same-old same-old,
but it was OK. Then Shrek came out and everybody loved it, then Ice
Age, then Incredibles, which were all popular.
But then we started getting Monsters Inc, Madagascar, that one about
Robots with Halle Berry and Robin Williams, then The Wild, and now this
Over The Hedge flick. How much more of this ***** are we going to have
to put up with? We're getting like ten or eleven of them every year.
It's like the New Orleans levvies broke again and we're submerged under
these completely shitty CGI kids movies instead of black refugees. How
many more of these fucking movies are going to get made?
.

User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 19 May 2006 07:23:36 PM
"jombithedjinn" <jombidjinn@excite.com> wrote in
news:1148068093.983912.239740@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

It was kind of neat when Toy Story first came out. I remember thinking
"wow, a whole movie in CGI, how novel." Then Antz and A Bug's Life came
out, and even back then we were kind of getting the same-old same-old,
but it was OK. Then Shrek came out and everybody loved it, then Ice
Age, then Incredibles, which were all popular.

But then we started getting Monsters Inc, Madagascar, that one about
Robots with Halle Berry and Robin Williams, then The Wild, and now this
Over The Hedge flick. How much more of this ***** are we going to have
to put up with? We're getting like ten or eleven of them every year.
It's like the New Orleans levvies broke again and we're submerged under
these completely shitty CGI kids movies instead of black refugees. How
many more of these fucking movies are going to get made?

Don't see them. It works for me.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
I'm sure the universe is full of intelligent life. It's just been too
intelligent to come here.
-Arthur C. Clarke
.

User: "jwb"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 19 May 2006 04:00:24 PM
"jombithedjinn" <jombidjinn@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1148068093.983912.239740@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

How
many more of these fucking movies are going to get made?

as long as families / kids go to see them, they will be made.
Kids are a HUGE market. Hollywood also learned in Aladdin that if they add
in pop-culture reference humor, adults will enjoy them too. Hence, you get a
slew of kid / family films that the parents / adults actually don't mind
seeing. Ka-Ching!
.
User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 19 May 2006 11:42:57 PM
What's so funny about peace, love and "jwb" <nobody@nowhere.com>
posting the following on Fri, 19 May 2006 21:00:24 GMT iin
alt.atheism?

as long as families / kids go to see them, they will be made.

Kids are a HUGE market. Hollywood also learned in Aladdin that if they add
in pop-culture reference humor, adults will enjoy them too. Hence, you get a
slew of kid / family films that the parents / adults actually don't mind
seeing. Ka-Ching!

Hollywood learned that lesson long ago. Ever watch "Rocky and
Bullwinkle"? Half the jokes were aimed at adults.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing." - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
.
User: "jwb"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 20 May 2006 12:39:18 AM
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:bh7t62l89746oh5h3od6u9srp4qu9h7suh@4ax.com...

What's so funny about peace, love and "jwb" <nobody@nowhere.com>
posting the following on Fri, 19 May 2006 21:00:24 GMT iin
alt.atheism?

as long as families / kids go to see them, they will be made.

Kids are a HUGE market. Hollywood also learned in Aladdin that if they add
in pop-culture reference humor, adults will enjoy them too. Hence, you get
a
slew of kid / family films that the parents / adults actually don't mind
seeing. Ka-Ching!


Hollywood learned that lesson long ago. Ever watch "Rocky and
Bullwinkle"? Half the jokes were aimed at adults.

Bugs Bunny, too. You're right on that point, but they never really did it in
the movies (although that's where the cartoons started :). Kids movies
were, by and large, kids movies (from what I remember, anyway - I'm sure
there's an exception or two.) It seems since Aladdin, the majority of "kids"
movies are purposely made for both kids and adults.
.
User: "Forge"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 20 May 2006 08:14:33 AM
In article <aYxbg.1792$XR6.397@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>,
"jwb" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

It seems since Aladdin, the majority of "kids"
movies are purposely made for both kids and adults.

I'm pretty sure I saw things in "Snow White" (1939) that were more or
less aimed at grownups. Not in the winking, snarky way they are today of
course.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 31 May 2006 01:35:07 PM
Forge wrote:

In article <aYxbg.1792$XR6.397@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>,
"jwb" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

It seems since Aladdin, the majority of "kids"
movies are purposely made for both kids and adults.


I'm pretty sure I saw things in "Snow White" (1939) that were more or
less aimed at grownups. Not in the winking, snarky way they are today of
course.

"Snow White" was aimed at the entire family, it doesn't seem
that way now because it was aimed at Walt Disney's vision
of a 1939 family.
--
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
.



User: "Alric Knebel"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 20 May 2006 12:20:20 AM
Douglas Berry wrote:

What's so funny about peace, love and "jwb" <nobody@nowhere.com>
posting the following on Fri, 19 May 2006 21:00:24 GMT iin
alt.atheism?


as long as families / kids go to see them, they will be made.

Kids are a HUGE market. Hollywood also learned in Aladdin that if they add
in pop-culture reference humor, adults will enjoy them too. Hence, you get a
slew of kid / family films that the parents / adults actually don't mind
seeing. Ka-Ching!



Hollywood learned that lesson long ago. Ever watch "Rocky and
Bullwinkle"? Half the jokes were aimed at adults.

And I want to mention that I got a real kick out of the live-action
adaptation of it, produced by Robert Deniro's own production company, I
might add. I thought it was genuinely funny, and I saw it three times
in the course of about a month or so (on DVD; not in the theater).
--
Alric Knebel
http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
http://www.ironeyefortress.com
.

User: "Mike Painter"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 20 May 2006 06:40:21 PM
Douglas Berry wrote:

What's so funny about peace, love and "jwb" <nobody@nowhere.com>
posting the following on Fri, 19 May 2006 21:00:24 GMT iin
alt.atheism?

as long as families / kids go to see them, they will be made.

Kids are a HUGE market. Hollywood also learned in Aladdin that if
they add in pop-culture reference humor, adults will enjoy them too.
Hence, you get a slew of kid / family films that the parents /
adults actually don't mind seeing. Ka-Ching!


Hollywood learned that lesson long ago. Ever watch "Rocky and
Bullwinkle"? Half the jokes were aimed at adults.

Rocky and Bullwinkle, HA!
Crusader Rabbit was the show.
.


User: "Alric Knebel"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 19 May 2006 04:38:56 PM
jwb wrote:

"jombithedjinn" <jombidjinn@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1148068093.983912.239740@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

How
many more of these fucking movies are going to get made?



as long as families / kids go to see them, they will be made.

Kids are a HUGE market. Hollywood also learned in Aladdin that if they add
in pop-culture reference humor, adults will enjoy them too. Hence, you get a
slew of kid / family films that the parents / adults actually don't mind
seeing. Ka-Ching!

There was a Disney computuer-animated film a few years back that was
panned (I think), called "Dinosaurs." I saw the movie, rented it
without kids, and thought it was a very good movie, and if I recall
correctly, it made no pop culture references. To this day I wonder
about the theme of that movie, very mature, in that it raised social
questions. You had this group of aggressive dinosaurs who wanted to
make this escape trek at top speed, while another group felt that they
should slow down, that they had an obligation to the whole group. This
was heady stuff for the premise of a kid's movie, as it questioned the
survival-of-the-fittest paradigm. But it was offset with some great
humor, the lemurs occupying the role of hip humans. And the computer
animation was excellent. I'm one of those subscriber lists revolving
around films, and that movie made a couple of them's worst-of lists. I
didn't get it. Why would that make a worst-of list in ANY category.
--
--
Alric Knebel
http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
http://www.ironeyefortress.com
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User: "Butters"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 19 May 2006 04:48:13 PM
"jombithedjinn" <jombidjinn@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1148068093.983912.239740@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

It was kind of neat when Toy Story first came out. I remember thinking
"wow, a whole movie in CGI, how novel." Then Antz and A Bug's Life came
out, and even back then we were kind of getting the same-old same-old,
but it was OK. Then Shrek came out and everybody loved it, then Ice
Age, then Incredibles, which were all popular.

But then we started getting Monsters Inc,

Take that back! That movie ruled!
Madagascar, that one about

Robots with Halle Berry and Robin Williams, then The Wild, and now this
Over The Hedge flick. How much more of this ***** are we going to have
to put up with? We're getting like ten or eleven of them every year.
It's like the New Orleans levvies broke again and we're submerged under
these completely shitty CGI kids movies instead of black refugees. How
many more of these fucking movies are going to get made?

Kids enjoy them, so STFU. Next thing, you'll be screaming about banning ice
cream and puppies.
.

User: "Ken from Chicago"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 19 May 2006 06:39:36 PM
"jombithedjinn" <jombidjinn@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1148068093.983912.239740@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

It was kind of neat when Toy Story first came out. I remember thinking
"wow, a whole movie in CGI, how novel." Then Antz and A Bug's Life came
out, and even back then we were kind of getting the same-old same-old,
but it was OK. Then Shrek came out and everybody loved it, then Ice
Age, then Incredibles, which were all popular.

How are you FORCED to watch?
-- Ken from Chicago
.

User: "TBerk"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 19 May 2006 04:19:46 PM
- What does it matter what comes out if you don't intend to actually go
see it? If _you_ are not the demographic, chill out and let those who
might not other wise get anything but 'action' films as recourse.
- re: "Black Refugees". Comment not worth typing.
TBerk
.

User: "kaydigi"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 19 May 2006 03:57:26 PM

It's like the New Orleans levvies broke again and we're submerged under
these completely shitty CGI kids movies instead of black refugees.

WTF????
.

User: "a"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 20 May 2006 08:07:11 PM
I hate how they call CGI "animation". Animation is hand-drawn. CGI should
be called something different because it's not animation in the traditional
sense.
.
User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 20 May 2006 11:04:10 PM
<a> wrote in message news:446fbd21$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...

I hate how they call CGI "animation". Animation is hand-drawn. CGI should
be called something different because it's not animation in the
traditional
sense.

Animation simply means that the figures are
made to move in one way or another - not
just hand drawn. It's just another method
of doing this when the animation is computer
generated.
.

User: "Mike Painter"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 20 May 2006 10:03:53 PM
a wrote:

I hate how they call CGI "animation". Animation is hand-drawn. CGI
should be called something different because it's not animation in
the traditional sense.

Well you could call it CGI, but it is animation, traditional or not.
Do you "push button" a telephone call or dial it?
If you were caught in a blizzard would you want a warm coat or a hole to
hide in?
If somebody made love to you on a city street would you be flattered or
afraid of being arrested?
Words change meanings and in my mind animation fits what is being done today
far better than dialing a phone.
A blizzard was cannon fire during civil war time and until the mid to late
50's makeing love to somebody meant ou flirted with them.
.


User: "John Baker"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 19 May 2006 04:22:08 PM
On 19 May 2006 12:48:14 -0700, "jombithedjinn" <jombidjinn@excite.com>
wrote:

It was kind of neat when Toy Story first came out. I remember thinking
"wow, a whole movie in CGI, how novel." Then Antz and A Bug's Life came
out, and even back then we were kind of getting the same-old same-old,
but it was OK. Then Shrek came out and everybody loved it, then Ice
Age, then Incredibles, which were all popular.

But then we started getting Monsters Inc, Madagascar, that one about
Robots with Halle Berry and Robin Williams, then The Wild, and now this
Over The Hedge flick. How much more of this ***** are we going to have
to put up with? We're getting like ten or eleven of them every year.
It's like the New Orleans levvies broke again and we're submerged under
these completely shitty CGI kids movies instead of black refugees. How
many more of these fucking movies are going to get made?

Like any other genre, some are good, some not so good, and some
outright suck. Seems to me if you don't like CGI movies, the sensible
thing would be to just not watch them.
.

User: "Zaghadka"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 19 May 2006 10:06:03 PM
On 19 May 2006 12:48:14 -0700, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg, jombithedjinn
wrote:

It was kind of neat when Toy Story first came out. I remember thinking
"wow, a whole movie in CGI, how novel." Then Antz and A Bug's Life came
out, and even back then we were kind of getting the same-old same-old,
but it was OK. Then Shrek came out and everybody loved it, then Ice
Age, then Incredibles, which were all popular.

But then we started getting Monsters Inc, Madagascar, that one about
Robots with Halle Berry and Robin Williams, then The Wild, and now this
Over The Hedge flick. How much more of this ***** are we going to have
to put up with? We're getting like ten or eleven of them every year.
It's like the New Orleans levvies broke again and we're submerged under
these completely shitty CGI kids movies instead of black refugees. How
many more of these fucking movies are going to get made?

I'm sick of them too, but as long as they can make a profit, they will make
them.
Disney ditched its standard 2D unit in favor of this style of film BTW. How
does that grab ya'?
--
Zag
I thought I could organize freedom, how very
Scandinavian of me. ...Björk
.
User: "Hoodoo"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 20 May 2006 02:52:21 PM
"Zaghadka" <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2r1t62ps1dicac7a07lelqbbgi2pf8g17e@4ax.com...

On 19 May 2006 12:48:14 -0700, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg, jombithedjinn
wrote:

It was kind of neat when Toy Story first came out. I remember thinking
"wow, a whole movie in CGI, how novel." Then Antz and A Bug's Life came
out, and even back then we were kind of getting the same-old same-old,
but it was OK. Then Shrek came out and everybody loved it, then Ice
Age, then Incredibles, which were all popular.

But then we started getting Monsters Inc, Madagascar, that one about
Robots with Halle Berry and Robin Williams, then The Wild, and now this
Over The Hedge flick. How much more of this ***** are we going to have
to put up with? We're getting like ten or eleven of them every year.
It's like the New Orleans levvies broke again and we're submerged under
these completely shitty CGI kids movies instead of black refugees. How
many more of these fucking movies are going to get made?


I'm sick of them too, but as long as they can make a profit, they will
make
them.

Disney ditched its standard 2D unit in favor of this style of film BTW.
How
does that grab ya'?

--
Zag

I thought I could organize freedom, how very
Scandinavian of me. ...Björk

I f***ing hate them all.
Why don't they make one about a lonely kid in a war-torn country with a
puppet government and...oh hold on a sec...
.


User: "Captain Infinity"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 19 May 2006 07:39:37 PM
Once Upon A Time jombithedjinn wrote:

It was kind of neat when Toy Story first came out. I remember thinking
"wow, a whole movie in CGI, how novel." Then Antz and A Bug's Life came
out, and even back then we were kind of getting the same-old same-old,
but it was OK. Then Shrek came out and everybody loved it, then Ice
Age, then Incredibles, which were all popular.

But then we started getting Monsters Inc, Madagascar, that one about
Robots with Halle Berry and Robin Williams, then The Wild, and now this
Over The Hedge flick. How much more of this ***** are we going to have
to put up with? We're getting like ten or eleven of them every year.
It's like the New Orleans levvies broke again and we're submerged under
these completely shitty CGI kids movies instead of black refugees. How
many more of these fucking movies are going to get made?

6,472.
**
Captain Infinity
.

User: "Jonah Falcon"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 19 May 2006 03:20:12 PM
Over the Hedge is BRILLIANT, especially if you enjoy the strip. And the
opening animated short (CGI) First Flight is AMAZING.
And by the way, if you don't like animated films, don't watch. CGI is
just as relevent as cel-animated and stop motion. What the ***** is
wrong with the medium of CGI?
Little hint: good script = good film. Charlotte's Web was Hanna Barbera
Saturday Morning Cartoon-level of animation. Twice Upon a Time and
South Park:BLU were cut-out animation.
If they make Dr. Katz with SquiggleVision for a feature-length film,
I'll be happy.
Medium is meaningless without a good script and good acting behind it,
asswipe.
.
User: "Chris Lansdell {Just one calorie!}"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 21 May 2006 09:44:04 AM
Jonah Falcon, the short answer to your post to rec.sport.pro-wrestling
on Fri 19 May 2006 05:50:12p is 42. The long answer is

Over the Hedge is BRILLIANT, especially if you enjoy the strip. And
the opening animated short (CGI) First Flight is AMAZING.

And by the way, if you don't like animated films, don't watch. CGI is
just as relevent as cel-animated and stop motion. What the ***** is
wrong with the medium of CGI?

Little hint: good script = good film. Charlotte's Web was Hanna
Barbera Saturday Morning Cartoon-level of animation. Twice Upon a Time
and South Park:BLU were cut-out animation.

If they make Dr. Katz with SquiggleVision for a feature-length film,
I'll be happy.

Medium is meaningless without a good script and good acting behind it,
asswipe.

I believe you're missing the original poster's point. Certanily there
are good and bad CGI movies, as with any medium. However, it is no
longer the "new and exciting" medium that gave Toy Story its "wow"
factor. This of course means that these movies are going to be judged
more on their storylines and entertainment value and less on the "ooooh
shiny new!" factor. The Wild, for example, appears to be nothing more
than Disney saying "Is it too late to put out our Madagascar movie since
DreamWorks beat us to it?" I mean in the past few months we've had
Chicken Little, Over the Hedge, The Wild...SLOW DOWN already!
--
"The Lansdellicious One" Chris Lansdell
Founder of the Nation of Salivation
"if you think thats ok then you are obviously a
cook. " - robby
HEY, I'M A COOK!
.
User: "Ken from Chicago"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 21 May 2006 10:29:31 AM
"Chris Lansdell {Just one calorie!}"
<chris.lansdell@nl.SIGNCARLENGLISH.rogers.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97CA7C7A7B2FCxxlpointguardvision@209.210.176.62...

Jonah Falcon, the short answer to your post to rec.sport.pro-wrestling
on Fri 19 May 2006 05:50:12p is 42. The long answer is

Over the Hedge is BRILLIANT, especially if you enjoy the strip. And
the opening animated short (CGI) First Flight is AMAZING.

And by the way, if you don't like animated films, don't watch. CGI is
just as relevent as cel-animated and stop motion. What the ***** is
wrong with the medium of CGI?

Little hint: good script = good film. Charlotte's Web was Hanna
Barbera Saturday Morning Cartoon-level of animation. Twice Upon a Time
and South Park:BLU were cut-out animation.

If they make Dr. Katz with SquiggleVision for a feature-length film,
I'll be happy.

Medium is meaningless without a good script and good acting behind it,
asswipe.


I believe you're missing the original poster's point. Certanily there
are good and bad CGI movies, as with any medium. However, it is no
longer the "new and exciting" medium that gave Toy Story its "wow"
factor. This of course means that these movies are going to be judged
more on their storylines and entertainment value and less on the "ooooh
shiny new!" factor. The Wild, for example, appears to be nothing more
than Disney saying "Is it too late to put out our Madagascar movie since
DreamWorks beat us to it?" I mean in the past few months we've had
Chicken Little, Over the Hedge, The Wild...SLOW DOWN already!

--
"The Lansdellicious One" Chris Lansdell
Founder of the Nation of Salivation
"if you think thats ok then you are obviously a
cook. " - robby
HEY, I'M A COOK!

And there are a ton of cop, spy, detective, romance movies too.
Don't blame the medium of cgi. Blame the lack of quality of them.
-- Ken from Chicago
.

User: "Mike Painter"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 21 May 2006 04:25:03 PM
Chris Lansdell {Just one calorie!} wrote:

Jonah Falcon, the short answer to your post to rec.sport.pro-wrestling

<snip>

I believe you're missing the original poster's point. Certanily there
are good and bad CGI movies, as with any medium. However, it is no
longer the "new and exciting" medium that gave Toy Story its "wow"
factor. This of course means that these movies are going to be judged
more on their storylines and entertainment value and less on the
"ooooh shiny new!" factor. The Wild, for example, appears to be
nothing more than Disney saying "Is it too late to put out our
Madagascar movie since DreamWorks beat us to it?" I mean in the past
few months we've had Chicken Little, Over the Hedge, The Wild...SLOW
DOWN already!

Ssssh, shut up, be quiet, keep your mouth shut.
They may discover the John Wayne cowboy or war movie type again where
everything is black or white even if the film is not.
I saw to many of those cowboys riding past that rock again and again as a
child.
.

User: "Doug Jacobs"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 22 May 2006 03:56:25 PM
In alt.games.video.xbox Chris Lansdell {Just one calorie!} <chris.lansdell@nl.signcarlenglish.rogers.com> wrote:

I believe you're missing the original poster's point. Certanily there
are good and bad CGI movies, as with any medium. However, it is no
longer the "new and exciting" medium that gave Toy Story its "wow"
factor. This of course means that these movies are going to be judged
more on their storylines and entertainment value and less on the "ooooh
shiny new!" factor. The Wild, for example, appears to be nothing more
than Disney saying "Is it too late to put out our Madagascar movie since
DreamWorks beat us to it?" I mean in the past few months we've had
Chicken Little, Over the Hedge, The Wild...SLOW DOWN already!

You mean, people haven't been juding animated features based on the
content of their story and characters?? What's wrong with folks? It
doesn't matter if the movie is animated or not. Sure you can look at the
animation and say "ooh, ahh, pretty pictures" but that doesn't change what
cinematographers, costumers and set designers do for live-action movies.
I agree, The Wild seems like a complete remake of Madasgascar, only
without the charming characters. Bleh.
Chicken Little came out earlier this year? Didn't do very well and went
to DVD pretty quickly. Ditto for Hoodwinked, which I thought was a MUCH
better movie that Chicken Little. Really, they should have just made the
movie about the Fish Out Of Water character - he was the only interesting
character in the movie really.
And don't forget that Cars is also coming soon to movie theaters too ;)
.
User: "Ken from Chicago"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 22 May 2006 04:37:50 PM
"Doug Jacobs" <djacobs@shell.rawbw.com> wrote in message
news:12749bp93c6ig09@corp.supernews.com...

In alt.games.video.xbox Chris Lansdell {Just one calorie!}
<chris.lansdell@nl.signcarlenglish.rogers.com> wrote:

I believe you're missing the original poster's point. Certanily there
are good and bad CGI movies, as with any medium. However, it is no
longer the "new and exciting" medium that gave Toy Story its "wow"
factor. This of course means that these movies are going to be judged
more on their storylines and entertainment value and less on the "ooooh
shiny new!" factor. The Wild, for example, appears to be nothing more
than Disney saying "Is it too late to put out our Madagascar movie since
DreamWorks beat us to it?" I mean in the past few months we've had
Chicken Little, Over the Hedge, The Wild...SLOW DOWN already!


You mean, people haven't been juding animated features based on the
content of their story and characters?? What's wrong with folks? It

Oscars gave animation their own category.

doesn't matter if the movie is animated or not. Sure you can look at the
animation and say "ooh, ahh, pretty pictures" but that doesn't change what
cinematographers, costumers and set designers do for live-action movies.

Huh?

I agree, The Wild seems like a complete remake of Madasgascar, only
without the charming characters. Bleh.

Chicken Little came out earlier this year? Didn't do very well and went
to DVD pretty quickly. Ditto for Hoodwinked, which I thought was a MUCH
better movie that Chicken Little. Really, they should have just made the
movie about the Fish Out Of Water character - he was the only interesting
character in the movie really.

HOODWINKED got better reviews than CHICKEN LITTLE.

And don't forget that Cars is also coming soon to movie theaters too ;)

I agree movies should be judged on the quality of the fiction and not just
animation, but since it's an American, especially Hollywood tradition that
animation (like science fiction, fantasy, comics and video games) is kiddie
fare then the "brightness and shininess" of it tends to remain paramount
since the visuals tend to be what kids go for (and teens and summer
audiences).
-- Ken from Chicago
P.S. OVER THE HEDGE was a great movie with better reviews than that ...
other ... movie that came out last weekend, even tho the latter did bigger
box office. Then again, marketing is another Hollywood tradition.
.



User: "Brodieman"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 21 May 2006 08:52:14 AM
On 19 May 2006 13:20:12 -0700, "Jonah Falcon"
<jonahnynla@mindspring.com> wrote:

Over the Hedge is BRILLIANT, especially if you enjoy the strip. And the
opening animated short (CGI) First Flight is AMAZING.

And by the way, if you don't like animated films, don't watch. CGI is
just as relevent as cel-animated and stop motion. What the ***** is
wrong with the medium of CGI?

Little hint: good script = good film. Charlotte's Web was Hanna Barbera
Saturday Morning Cartoon-level of animation. Twice Upon a Time and
South Park:BLU were cut-out animation.

South Park (the movie and the series) is CGI designed to look like cut
out animation. The only exception is the pilot which was all done by
hand.
.


User: "RichA"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 19 May 2006 08:01:08 PM
People like horrible, pastel coloured unreality compared to cold, hard
and DETAILED
reality or model work.
.

User: "Jordan"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 19 May 2006 06:43:28 PM
jombithedjinn wrote:

But then we started getting Monsters Inc, Madagascar, that one about
Robots with Halle Berry and Robin Williams, then The Wild, and now this
Over The Hedge flick.

Monster's Inc was fantastic. The hair rendering (for the time) was
amazing. I remember buying a DVD with a Monsters Inc preview trailer on
it and just re-watching that over and over.
Robots and Ice Age were good B-list movies. Not in the same class as
Monsters Inc/Incredibles/Shrek, but still decent enough.
Over the Hedge? I dunno. I don't find the strip particularly funny so I
don't know how it will translate. The stuff that tickles me (Get Fuzzy,
Pearls Before Swine) are too weird to make it as movies.
It's the crappy ones like "Hoodwinked" that ***** me off.
- Jordan
.

User: "Mike Painter"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 19 May 2006 09:02:12 PM
jombithedjinn wrote:

It was kind of neat when Toy Story first came out. I remember thinking
"wow, a whole movie in CGI, how novel." Then Antz and A Bug's Life
came out, and even back then we were kind of getting the same-old
same-old, but it was OK. Then Shrek came out and everybody loved it,
then Ice Age, then Incredibles, which were all popular.

But then we started getting Monsters Inc, Madagascar, that one about
Robots with Halle Berry and Robin Williams, then The Wild, and now
this Over The Hedge flick. How much more of this ***** are we going to
have to put up with? We're getting like ten or eleven of them every
year. It's like the New Orleans levvies broke again and we're
submerged under these completely shitty CGI kids movies instead of
black refugees. How many more of these fucking movies are going to
get made?

Most of these movies tend to have adult stories and lots of action. They
attrack both the adult for the humor and the children for the action and
color.
As for how many more will get made, the answer is, simple. A lot.
We talked in the 60's of replacing people in movies with computer animation
(something a bit hard to do with an IBM 1620) and it's starting to happen.
I suspect stunt men will be the first to go. Why bother with them when the
hero can be totally artificial for brief action scenes. But there is little
except time and money from removing all people from the silver screen. Then
people with good voices will have work for a while.
.

User: "John Cocktosen"

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 19 May 2006 07:52:02 PM
jombithedjinn wrote:

It was kind of neat when Toy Story first came out. I remember thinking
"wow, a whole movie in CGI, how novel." Then Antz and A Bug's Life came
out, and even back then we were kind of getting the same-old same-old,
but it was OK. Then Shrek came out and everybody loved it, then Ice
Age, then Incredibles, which were all popular.

But then we started getting Monsters Inc, Madagascar, that one about
Robots with Halle Berry and Robin Williams, then The Wild, and now this
Over The Hedge flick. How much more of this ***** are we going to have
to put up with? We're getting like ten or eleven of them every year.
It's like the New Orleans levvies broke again and we're submerged under
these completely shitty CGI kids movies instead of black refugees. How
many more of these fucking movies are going to get made?

They are the only movies making money at the box office anymore...
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Is anyone else SICK of CGI family/kids movies already? 19 May 2006 03:22:54 PM
jombithedjinn wrote:

It was kind of neat when Toy Story first came out. I remember thinking
"wow, a whole movie in CGI, how novel." Then Antz and A Bug's Life came
out, and even back then we were kind of getting the same-old same-old,
but it was OK. Then Shrek came out and everybody loved it, then Ice
Age, then Incredibles, which were all popular.

But then we started getting Monsters Inc, Madagascar, that one about
Robots with Halle Berry and Robin Williams, then The Wild, and now this
Over The Hedge flick. How much more of this ***** are we going to have
to put up with? We're getting like ten or eleven of them every year.
It's like the New Orleans levvies broke again and we're submerged under
these completely shitty CGI kids movies instead of black refugees. How
many more of these fucking movies are going to get made?

Go to see a movie because it is good as a movie. Ignore the medium
used to deliver. The novelty effect has warn off now on the whole CGI
thing. I no longer make a point to see them all.
- Richard Hutnik
.


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