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04 Nov 2004 07:10:18 PM |
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Is Arafat DEAD or not ? ? ? |
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| User: "Clayton...Rapidly Drying Oasis In A Worldwide Desert Of Insanity" |
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| Title: Re: Is Arafat DEAD or not ? ? ? |
05 Nov 2004 12:52:50 AM |
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"Well Is He" <ishe@orisnt.he> wrote in message
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Israelis....glass half empty...Palestinians...glass half full!
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| User: "Tock" |
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| Title: Re: Is Arafat DEAD or not ? ? ? |
04 Nov 2004 09:27:57 PM |
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"Well Is He" <ishe@orisnt.he> wrote in message
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As dead as disco . . .
-Tock
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| Title: Re: Is Arafat DEAD or not ? ? ? |
04 Nov 2004 11:01:16 PM |
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On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 03:27:57 GMT, "Tock" <tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
"Well Is He" <ishe@orisnt.he> wrote in message
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As dead as disco . . .
-Tock
HEY!!!!! Disco is not dead. It's carefully plotting its return.
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| User: "Jez" |
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| Title: Re: Is Arafat DEAD or not ? ? ? |
06 Nov 2004 04:19:53 PM |
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wrote:
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 03:27:57 GMT, "Tock" <tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
"Well Is He" <ishe@orisnt.he> wrote in message
news:4LRITRAX38295.7988194444@anonymous.poster...
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As dead as disco . . .
-Tock
HEY!!!!! Disco is not dead. It's carefully plotting its return.
Aww ***** !!
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Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
Skype callto://hellward
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| User: "jberger" |
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| Title: Re: Is Arafat DEAD or not ? ? ? |
04 Nov 2004 07:17:31 PM |
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"Well Is He" <ishe@orisnt.he> wrote in message
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as good as...
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| User: "satyr" |
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| Title: Re: Is Arafat DEAD or not ? ? ? |
05 Nov 2004 11:09:55 PM |
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On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 17:17:31 -0800, "jberger" <jberger@sprynet.com>
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"Well Is He" <ishe@orisnt.he> wrote in message
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as good as...
If he comes back, does that mean he is the son of God?
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satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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| User: "Vic Mackey" |
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| Title: Re: Is Arafat DEAD or not ? ? ? |
04 Nov 2004 07:38:21 PM |
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He's brain dead in a sitz bath.
"Well Is He" <ishe@orisnt.he> wrote in message
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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| Title: Re: Is Arafat DEAD or not ? ? ? |
04 Nov 2004 08:08:06 PM |
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On 5 Nov 2004 01:10:18 -0000, Well Is He <ishe@orisnt.he> thought hard
and said:
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He is about to be.
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-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr Tveitt are my Gods.
Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane Scientist.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Is Arafat DEAD or not ? ? ? |
04 Nov 2004 09:45:17 PM |
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On 5 Nov 2004 01:10:18 -0000, Well Is He <ishe@orisnt.he> wrote:
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Okay, here's the deal. Arafat is dead, but being "kept alive" on a
machine until the Palestinian Authority has had the chance to solidify
the new structure of power. No, I can't provide a cite for this, I'm
just reading between the lines.
First the hospital announced that he had lapsed into a coma, then the
Palestinians said he didn't, then they said he did. Then rumors got
out that he died, than the Palestinian reps said no, he was alive and
in serious condition, but if he died they would delay telling
Palestinians for 72 hours(probably to make preparations). Then they
admitted he was on a machine.
I have a feeling we are in the midst of the "72 hours."
my €.02
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zamboni
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I am Zamboni, and I approved this message.
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| User: "osric" |
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| Title: Re: Is Arafat DEAD or not ? ? ? |
05 Nov 2004 06:46:23 PM |
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<zamboni30000@knowshpamatyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ksslo01ht4fsv2dnca1ltji5trjlq91utr@4ax.com...
On 5 Nov 2004 01:10:18 -0000, Well Is He <ishe@orisnt.he> wrote:
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Okay, here's the deal. Arafat is dead, but being "kept alive" on a
machine until the Palestinian Authority has had the chance to solidify
the new structure of power. No, I can't provide a cite for this, I'm
just reading between the lines.
First the hospital announced that he had lapsed into a coma, then the
Palestinians said he didn't, then they said he did. Then rumors got
out that he died, than the Palestinian reps said no, he was alive and
in serious condition, but if he died they would delay telling
Palestinians for 72 hours(probably to make preparations). Then they
admitted he was on a machine.
I have a feeling we are in the midst of the "72 hours."
my ?.02
Probably about right
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Osric
THE BORDERS OF MY COUNTRY
RUN AROUND THE SOLES OF MY FEET
zamboni
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I am Zamboni, and I approved this message.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Is Arafat DEAD or not ? ? ? |
06 Nov 2004 04:10:09 PM |
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On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 00:46:23 +0000 (UTC), "osric"
<osric@nospambtinternet.com> wrote:
<zamboni30000@knowshpamatyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ksslo01ht4fsv2dnca1ltji5trjlq91utr@4ax.com...
On 5 Nov 2004 01:10:18 -0000, Well Is He <ishe@orisnt.he> wrote:
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Okay, here's the deal. Arafat is dead, but being "kept alive" on a
machine until the Palestinian Authority has had the chance to solidify
the new structure of power. No, I can't provide a cite for this, I'm
just reading between the lines.
First the hospital announced that he had lapsed into a coma, then the
Palestinians said he didn't, then they said he did. Then rumors got
out that he died, than the Palestinian reps said no, he was alive and
in serious condition, but if he died they would delay telling
Palestinians for 72 hours(probably to make preparations). Then they
admitted he was on a machine.
I have a feeling we are in the midst of the "72 hours."
my ?.02
Probably about right
Who cares? Will there be more or less fighting when he dies anyhow? -
a perfect example of why death won't stop any more killing.
Wake up!!! If you believe in killing, start with yourself.
drift
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| User: "Fester" |
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| Title: Re: Is Arafat DEAD or not ? ? ? |
06 Nov 2004 04:22:23 AM |
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<zamboni30000@knowshpamatyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ksslo01ht4fsv2dnca1ltji5trjlq91utr@4ax.com...
On 5 Nov 2004 01:10:18 -0000, Well Is He <ishe@orisnt.he> wrote:
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Okay, here's the deal. Arafat is dead, but being "kept alive" on a
machine until the Palestinian Authority has had the chance to solidify
the new structure of power. No, I can't provide a cite for this, I'm
just reading between the lines.
The "Weekend at Yassir's" theory. I suspect you're right.
First the hospital announced that he had lapsed into a coma, then the
Palestinians said he didn't, then they said he did. Then rumors got
out that he died, than the Palestinian reps said no, he was alive and
in serious condition, but if he died they would delay telling
Palestinians for 72 hours(probably to make preparations). Then they
admitted he was on a machine.
I have a feeling we are in the midst of the "72 hours."
my ?.02
And his embezzled $$$ billions. I wonder if they got his Swiss Bank account
number out of him before the end. I sure hope not!
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| User: "Mike Harrison" |
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| Title: Re: Is Arafat DEAD or not ? ? ? |
06 Nov 2004 03:45:57 PM |
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wrote in message news:<ksslo01ht4fsv2dnca1ltji5trjlq91utr@4ax.com>...
On 5 Nov 2004 01:10:18 -0000, Well Is He <ishe@orisnt.he> wrote:
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Okay, here's the deal. Arafat is dead, but being "kept alive" on a
machine until the Palestinian Authority has had the chance to solidify
the new structure of power. No, I can't provide a cite for this, I'm
just reading between the lines.
I read he was brain dead but his body is being kept alive on a machine
until they make his burial arrangements. They want him to be buried in
Jerusalem, but there is a big controversy over it.
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| User: "jeffinwindsor" |
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| Title: Re: Is Arafat DEAD or not ? ? ? |
07 Nov 2004 12:47:23 AM |
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Actually thats part of the truth, he is being kept alive on machines
because, due to his religion ,he has to be buried either 24 or 48 hours
after his death (I forget which) and they still dont know where he is going
to be buried.
<zamboni30000@knowshpamatyahoo.com> wrote in message
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On 5 Nov 2004 01:10:18 -0000, Well Is He <ishe@orisnt.he> wrote:
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Okay, here's the deal. Arafat is dead, but being "kept alive" on a
machine until the Palestinian Authority has had the chance to solidify
the new structure of power. No, I can't provide a cite for this, I'm
just reading between the lines.
First the hospital announced that he had lapsed into a coma, then the
Palestinians said he didn't, then they said he did. Then rumors got
out that he died, than the Palestinian reps said no, he was alive and
in serious condition, but if he died they would delay telling
Palestinians for 72 hours(probably to make preparations). Then they
admitted he was on a machine.
I have a feeling we are in the midst of the "72 hours."
my ?.02
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zamboni
#2139
I am Zamboni, and I approved this message.
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| User: "Rich" |
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04 Nov 2004 07:41:42 PM |
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Well Is He <ishe@orisnt.he> wrote:
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I've read in some sites he was gay?!?
There's even news that he had wild gay orgies in his day. Wow, the
things you learn about people.
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| User: "Clayton...Rapidly Drying Oasis In A Worldwide Desert Of Insanity" |
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05 Nov 2004 12:54:11 AM |
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"Rich" <richie@cunning.ham> wrote in message
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Well Is He <ishe@orisnt.he> wrote:
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I've read in some sites he was gay?!?
There's even news that he had wild gay orgies in his day. Wow, the
things you learn about people.
Pardon my doubts but he's not exactly Rock Hudson in the sexual alure
department!
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| User: "Jez" |
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07 Nov 2004 07:10:24 AM |
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Well Is He wrote:
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Arafat died years ago......
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=107&ItemID=6585
The truth is that Yasser Arafat died years ago
He married the Revolution. And in the end he became a little dictator,
falsely promising democracy
By Robert Fisk
Yet again, Yasser Arafat is dying. We thought he'd been killed back in
1982 when the Israeli air force flew around Beirut attacking apartment
blocks and homes they thought he was visiting. Their bombs tore to
pieces hundreds of innocent Lebanese civilians but Arafat was never
there. Then we thought he'd died in a plane crash in the Libyan desert
-- but it was the pilot who died and the bodyguard who shielded him in
his airline seat. Then we thought he'd bought it on the road to Baghdad
when he suffered a blood clot. But Jordanian doctors brought him back to
the world of the living. Now, again, we're preparing for the old man's
death. Yet like the Pope, he seems to go on and on and on.
He is a wearying man, not just in his repeated death but in life as
well, a man who married the Revolution -- as his wife was to discover --
rather than develop a coherent strategy for a people under occupation.
And in the end, he became like so many other Arab leaders -- and as the
Israelis intended him to be -- a little dictator, handing out dollars
and euros to his ageing but loyal cronies, falsely promising democracy,
clinging to power in his shambles of an office in Ramallah. Had he done
what he was supposed to do -- had he governed "Palestine" (the quotation
marks are daily more important) with ruthlessness and crushed all
opposition and accepted all Israel's demands -- he would be able now to
visit Jerusalem, even Washington.
I recall how, just after the famous handshake on the White House lawn, I
told an Israeli friend in Jerusalem that it was only fair that he would
now have to live with Arafat next door. After all, I said, I'd had to
suffer his near-occupation of West Beirut for seven years. Those were
the days when he promised to return all the refugees of pre-1948
Palestine to their homes, when he deliberately sacrificed thousands of
Palestinian lives in the Tel el-Zaatar camp to earn the world's
sympathy, when he tolerated aircraft hijacking and talked about
"democracy among the guns" and eventually left his people in Beirut to
Israel's murderous henchmen in the Phalange.
The Arafat mug was never going to find its way on to university walls
like Guevara or even Castro. There was -- and still is -- a kind of
seediness about it and maybe that's what the Israelis saw too, a man who
could be relied on to police his people in their little Bantustans,
another proxy to run the show when occupation became too tiresome. "Can
Arafat control his own people?" That's what the Israelis asked and the
world obligingly asked the same question without realising the truth:
that this was precisely why Arafat had been allowed back to the Occupied
Territories -- to "control" his people. The only time he did stand up to
his Israeli-American masters -- when he refused to accept 64 per cent of
the 22 per cent of Palestine that was left to him -- he returned in
triumph to Gaza and allowed the Israelis to claim he was offered 95 per
cent but chose war.
When he started negotiating with the Israelis, he had not even seen a
Jewish settlement but he put his trust in the Americans -- always a
dangerous thing to do in the Middle East -- and when Israel began to
renege on the withdrawals, there was no one to help him. Israel broke
withdrawal agreements five times.
Then came intifada two and the Palestinian suicide bombings and 11
September 2001, and it was only a matter of time -- about six hours, to
be exact -- before Israel said Arafat was linked to Osama bin Laden and
that Ariel Sharon, too, was fighting world terror in his battle with the
"terrorist" Arafat. In a country where the word "terrorist" is even more
promiscuously used than it is in the United States, it was applied to
Arafat by every Israeli official and every right-wing journalist outside
Israel.
Sitting like an old and dying owl in his Ramallah headquarters, it must
have struck Arafat that he had one unique distinction. Some "terrorists"
-- Khomeini, for example -- die of old age. Some -- Gaddafi comes to
mind -- become statesmen courtesy of mendacious folk like Tony Blair.
Others -- Abu Nidal is an obvious candidate -- get murdered, often by
their own side. But Arafat is perhaps the only man who started off as a
"super-terrorist", was turned overnight by the Oslo agreement into a
"super-statesman" and then went back to being a "super-terrorist" again.
No wonder he often seems to be losing attention, making factual errors,
falling ill.
Like all dictators, he made sure that there was no succession. It might
have been Abu Jihad, but he was murdered by the Israelis in Tunis. It
might have been one of the militant leaders whom the Israelis have been
executing by air attack over the past two years. It could still be,
just, the imprisoned Marwan Barghouti. And, if the Israelis decide that
he should be the leader -- be sure the Palestinians won't get any choice
in the matter -- then the prison doors may open for Barghouti.
Yes, Arafat might die. The funeral would be the usual excruciating
rhetoric bath. But the truth, I fear, is that Arafat died years ago.
--
Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
Skype callto://hellward
NFS Porsche Unleashed, Hot Pursuit 2, Underground.
Yeowww
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