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"Sender29" |
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22 Apr 2005 05:00:41 PM |
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Is Atheism a religion? |
"snex" <snex@comcast.net> wrote:
if atheism is a religion, then
not collecting stamps is a hobby.
As it can be, if you're surrounded by the buggers.
This is not an entirely trite point.
Part of society is conforming with societal norms. If one of those is
having an invisible friend, it can be anti-social not to pretend that you
too see the brilliant hand of a creator in all nature.
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"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you,
then they fight you, then you win."
~ Mahatma Gandhi
http://www.geraintdavies.org/
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| User: "kathryn" |
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23 Apr 2005 02:30:49 AM |
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"Sender29" <sender28@email2me.net> wrote in message
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"snex" <snex@comcast.net> wrote:
if atheism is a religion, then
not collecting stamps is a hobby.
As it can be, if you're surrounded by the buggers.
This is not an entirely trite point.
Part of society is conforming with societal norms. If one of those is
having an invisible friend, it can be anti-social not to pretend that you
too see the brilliant hand of a creator in all nature.
Not being a Nazi in Germany was at one point anti social....
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| User: "Sender29" |
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23 Apr 2005 08:32:11 AM |
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"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote:
Not being a Nazi in Germany was
at one point anti social....
Yes. Exactly.
There are problems. That was what I was trying to say.
Practicing rubbish can, and has at times, become so common, that not to
do so, is and was anti-social.
An easy example is telling mothers in the UK, that they have no need to
feed their children cooled boiled water. Cooled boiled water for babies
is a myth so common in the UK, that tell people it is rubbish is anti-
social.
To give non British people an example of this, as far as I know, every
mother in the UK is told to feed her baby only cooled boiled water. It
cannot be quite, but that UK myth is so common, it certainly appears to
be universal.
Do you see?
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"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you,
then they fight you, then you win."
~ Mahatma Gandhi
http://www.geraintdavies.org/
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| User: "Brian Henderson" |
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23 Apr 2005 11:36:27 AM |
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On 23 Apr 2005 08:32:11 -0500, Sender29 <sender28@email2me.net> wrote:
There are problems. That was what I was trying to say.
The problem is that each and every example that has been given for
following the social order has been ridiculous. It's indefensible to
say that you should have been a Nazi in WWII Germany, simply because
that's what was expected of you. I salute those who had the guts to
go against the social order and follow what they believed, instead of
what they were told.
Same with atheists. Just because there is social pressure to believe
in a nonsensical deity, it's only the people with guts and brains who
stand up for what's right, rather than being mindless sheep.
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| User: "Dr. Jai Maharaj" |
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23 Apr 2005 05:30:27 PM |
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In article <5qsk61dio45hqkorhmmnqpelddoob2qer4@4ax.com>,
posted:
On 23 Apr 2005 08:32:11 -0500, Sender29 <sender28@email2me.net> wrote:
There are problems. That was what I was trying to say.
The problem is that each and every example that has been given for
following the social order has been ridiculous. It's indefensible to
say that you should have been a Nazi in WWII Germany, simply because
that's what was expected of you. I salute those who had the guts to
go against the social order and follow what they believed, instead of
what they were told.
Same with atheists. Just because there is social pressure to believe
in a nonsensical deity, it's only the people with guts and brains who
stand up for what's right, rather than being mindless sheep.
Calling a deity "nonsensical" is merely your opinion. Is it rooted
in fact?
Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
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| User: "bob young" |
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28 Apr 2005 05:53:01 AM |
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"Dr. Jai Maharaj" wrote:
In article <5qsk61dio45hqkorhmmnqpelddoob2qer4@4ax.com>,
BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net posted:
On 23 Apr 2005 08:32:11 -0500, Sender29 <sender28@email2me.net> wrote:
There are problems. That was what I was trying to say.
The problem is that each and every example that has been given for
following the social order has been ridiculous. It's indefensible to
say that you should have been a Nazi in WWII Germany, simply because
that's what was expected of you. I salute those who had the guts to
go against the social order and follow what they believed, instead of
what they were told.
Same with atheists. Just because there is social pressure to believe
in a nonsensical deity, it's only the people with guts and brains who
stand up for what's right, rather than being mindless sheep.
Calling a deity "nonsensical" is merely your opinion. Is it rooted
in fact?
All the thousands of nonsensical deities are rooted in the past
Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
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| User: "Elf M. Sternberg" |
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24 Apr 2005 12:54:24 AM |
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(Dr. Jai Maharaj) writes:
Calling a deity "nonsensical" is merely your opinion. Is it rooted
in fact?
Yes. There is no conclusive evidence for any deity. Therefore,
believing in one is contrary to sense.
Elf
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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24 Apr 2005 09:16:21 PM |
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"dwacon" <aunt.jemima@pancake.mix> wrote in news:9oYae.15994$Z73.5866
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"Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote in message
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usenet@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj) writes:
Calling a deity "nonsensical" is merely your opinion. Is it rooted
in fact?
Yes. There is no conclusive evidence for any deity.
Therefore,
believing in one is contrary to sense.
Does evidence have to be conclusive?
Not only is such evidence inclonclusive, it is totally absent.
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Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplin and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
A doctrine insulates the devout not only against the realities around
them but also against their own selves. The fanatical believer is not
conscious of his envy, malice, pettiness and dishonesty. There is a wall
of words between his consciousness and his real self.
-- Eric Hoffer
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| User: "Virgil" |
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24 Apr 2005 02:03:11 AM |
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In article <87oec4g1nz.fsf@drizzle.com>,
"Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote:
usenet@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj) writes:
Calling a deity "nonsensical" is merely your opinion. Is it rooted
in fact?
Yes. There is no conclusive evidence for any deity. Therefore,
believing in one is contrary to sense.
Elf
One can make a case that it is unreasonable to believe in things for
which there is no supportive evidence whatsoever or for which there is
more contrary evidence than supportive, but if there is more supportive
evidence than contrary evidence for something, it is hard to make any
sort of case that belief in it is contrary to sense.
For many, if not most, of the things we believe, we have less than
*conclusive* reason to believe in them, so that lack of *conclusive*
evidence hardly makes such beliefs contrary to sense.
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| User: "Dr. Jai Maharaj" |
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24 Apr 2005 04:03:31 PM |
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In article <ITSnetNOTcom#virgil-007C07.01031124042005@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,
Virgil <ITSnetNOTcom#virgil@COMCAST.com> posted:
In article <87oec4g1nz.fsf@drizzle.com>,
"Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote:
Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
Calling a deity "nonsensical" is merely your opinion. Is it rooted
in fact?
Yes. There is no conclusive evidence for any deity. Therefore,
believing in one is contrary to sense.
Elf
One can make a case that it is unreasonable to believe in things for
which there is no supportive evidence whatsoever or for which there is
more contrary evidence than supportive, but if there is more supportive
evidence than contrary evidence for something, it is hard to make any
sort of case that belief in it is contrary to sense.
For many, if not most, of the things we believe, we have less than
*conclusive* reason to believe in them, so that lack of *conclusive*
evidence hardly makes such beliefs contrary to sense.
I wonder if "Elf M. Sternberg" has ever loved anyone or anything, and if
so, whether he bases the love on "conclusive evidence" or just the feeling
of love -- or if the feeling itself is "conclusive evidence" to him.
Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
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| User: "Sasha" |
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25 Apr 2005 12:49:44 PM |
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"I wonder if "Elf M. Sternberg" has ever loved anyone or anything, and
if
so, whether he bases the love on "conclusive evidence" or just the
feeling
of love -- or if the feeling itself is "conclusive evidence" to him."
So then the emotion of love means that God exists? Or, since we can't
explain love - and yet it exists - then therefor God must exist as well
since we can't explain or unexplain him? I'm not seeing your point.
If the unexplainable nature of love means that God exists, can we not
say the same thing about severe hatred? I mean, if Love=God, so does
hate.
If you intended to state the latter, that our failure to explain love
with evidence means that God exists...it doesn't. There was a point
where lightning was considered the anger of a God - with knowledge, we
know better. A lack of evidence doesn't mean that something exists.
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| User: "Dr. Jai Maharaj" |
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25 Apr 2005 02:05:26 PM |
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In article <1114451384.623531.58310@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Sasha" <scironi@gmail.com> posted:
"I wonder if "Elf M. Sternberg" has ever loved anyone or anything, and
if
so, whether he bases the love on "conclusive evidence" or just the
feeling
of love -- or if the feeling itself is "conclusive evidence" to him."
So then the emotion of love means that God exists? Or, since we can't
explain love - and yet it exists - then therefor God must exist as well
since we can't explain or unexplain him? I'm not seeing your point. . . .
My point is that "Elf M. Sternberg" is not seeking
"conclusive evidence" for everything, only one thing. Of
course he's capable of loving persons and things -- this
is something most humans hold very dear to their heart
(pun intended) -- but "conclusive evidence" is neither
generally sought nor obtained/. It's just a feeling.
You'll see upon a little reflection that people do not
seek "conclusive evidence" before making a number of
vital decisions in life. Another example: decision to
marry a particular person.
Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
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| User: "Dr. Jai Maharaj" |
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24 Apr 2005 04:00:02 PM |
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In article <87oec4g1nz.fsf@drizzle.com>,
"Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> posted:
Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
Calling a deity "nonsensical" is merely your opinion. Is it rooted
in fact?
Yes. There is no conclusive evidence for any deity. . . .
When and where did you seek the evidence?
Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
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| User: "Dr. Jai Maharaj" |
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25 Apr 2005 02:06:54 PM |
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In article <9oYae.15994$Z73.5866@lakeread04>,
"dwacon" <aunt.jemima@pancake.mix> posted:
"Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote in message
news:87oec4g1nz.fsf@drizzle.com...
Dr. Jai Maharaj writes:
Calling a deity "nonsensical" is merely your opinion. Is it rooted
in fact?
Yes. There is no conclusive evidence for any deity. Therefore,
believing in one is contrary to sense.
Does evidence have to be conclusive? ;-)
Yes, if conclusions based on evidence are sought.
Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
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| User: "Dr. Jai Maharaj" |
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23 Apr 2005 06:17:38 PM |
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In article <1114297864.991079.227820@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> posted:
Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
In article <5qsk61dio45hqkorhmmnqpelddoob2qer4@4ax.com>,
BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net posted:
On 23 Apr 2005 08:32:11 -0500, Sender29 <sender28@email2me.net>
wrote:
There are problems. That was what I was trying to say.
The problem is that each and every example that has been given for
following the social order has been ridiculous. It's indefensible
to
say that you should have been a Nazi in WWII Germany, simply
because
that's what was expected of you. I salute those who had the guts
to
go against the social order and follow what they believed, instead
of
what they were told.
Same with atheists. Just because there is social pressure to
believe
in a nonsensical deity, it's only the people with guts and brains
who
stand up for what's right, rather than being mindless sheep.
Calling a deity "nonsensical" is merely your opinion. Is it rooted
in fact?
Of course. It's rooted in the fact that there don't appear to be any
non-contradictory deities . . .
Define "non-contradictory deities" in the context of what you wrote above.
Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
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| User: "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrichs effort" |
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24 Apr 2005 01:25:53 AM |
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Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
In article <1114297864.991079.227820@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> posted:
Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
Calling a deity "nonsensical" is merely your opinion. Is it
rooted
in fact?
Of course. It's rooted in the fact that there don't appear to be
any
non-contradictory deities . . .
Define "non-contradictory deities" in the context of what you wrote
above.
Ooo, sorry, by snipping what I wrote and pretending I haven't been
clear, you admit defeat. Too bad.
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| User: "Dr. Jai Maharaj" |
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24 Apr 2005 03:58:44 PM |
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In article <1114323952.985186.228460@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> posted:
Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
In article <1114297864.991079.227820@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> posted:
Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
Calling a deity "nonsensical" is merely your opinion. Is it
rooted
in fact?
Of course. It's rooted in the fact that there don't appear to be
any
non-contradictory deities . . .
Define "non-contradictory deities" in the context of what you wrote
above.
Ooo, sorry . . .
Okay.
Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
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| User: "stoney" |
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24 Apr 2005 03:00:00 PM |
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On 22 Apr 2005 17:00:41 -0500, Sender29 <sender28@email2me.net> wrote:
"snex" <snex@comcast.net> wrote:
if atheism is a religion, then
not collecting stamps is a hobby.
As it can be, if you're surrounded by the buggers.
This is not an entirely trite point.
Actually, it is. A lack of theism is a lack of theism, nothing more.
Part of society is conforming with societal norms.
Sorry, but I don't do insanity.
If one of those is having an invisible friend, it can be
anti-social not to pretend that you too see the brilliant hand
of a creator in all nature.
That leaves the Xtian insanity out of the competition.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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22 Apr 2005 05:10:12 PM |
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Sender29 wrote:
"snex" <snex@comcast.net> wrote:
if atheism is a religion, then
not collecting stamps is a hobby.
As it can be, if you're surrounded by the buggers.
This is not an entirely trite point.
Part of society is conforming with societal norms. If one of those is
having an invisible friend, it can be anti-social not to pretend that you
too see the brilliant hand of a creator in all nature.
So, then we're anti-social, but at least we're truthful. We're not
about to be part of the crowd that pretends to see the Emperor's New
Clothes. We are the ones that say "But the Emperor has nothing at all on!"
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| User: "towelie" |
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22 Apr 2005 08:23:20 PM |
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TV's DanielSan wrote:
Sender29 wrote:
"snex" <snex@comcast.net> wrote:
if atheism is a religion, then
not collecting stamps is a hobby.
As it can be, if you're surrounded by the buggers.
This is not an entirely trite point.
Part of society is conforming with societal norms. If one of those is
having an invisible friend, it can be anti-social not to pretend that you
too see the brilliant hand of a creator in all nature.
So, then we're anti-social, but at least we're truthful. We're not
about to be part of the crowd that pretends to see the Emperor's New
Clothes. We are the ones that say "But the Emperor has nothing at all
on!"
Or "The Emporer doesn't even exist."
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Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.
A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing.
- Maynard James Keenan
The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing. - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
aa #2133
ap #19
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22 Apr 2005 10:18:12 PM |
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
Or "The Emporer doesn't even exist."
Yes. Being social includes, or can include, accepting some utter rubbish.
You don't tell mother to stuff "cooled boiled water," because it's bull.
If there was anything wrong with our tap water, then why are the sick,
frail and elderly not fed coiled boiled water?
You're social. You play along with the lie. Makes for an easier life.
Where the original post, and first follow-up,
<Xns9640EA1ACBFACsandra28email2menet@127.0.0.1>
and <7_adnUaTcM2w6_TfRVn-sQ@comcast.com> cancelled? I cannot find them.
--
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you,
then they fight you, then you win."
~ Mahatma Gandhi
http://www.geraintdavies.org/
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23 Apr 2005 11:47:50 AM |
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On 22 Apr 2005 22:18:12 -0500, Sender29 <sender28@email2me.net>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
Or "The Emporer doesn't even exist."
Yes. Being social includes, or can include, accepting some utter rubbish.
You don't tell mother to stuff "cooled boiled water," because it's bull.
If there was anything wrong with our tap water, then why are the sick,
frail and elderly not fed coiled boiled water?
You're social. You play along with the lie. Makes for an easier life.
You're confusing "sociable" with "mindless conformity."
I'm an atheist. I'm also a social person. I go to baseball games, my
job, go out with friends, and get along fine. If the topic of faith
or church attendence is brought up, I politley explain that I am not
religious. If somebody presses the topic, then they are the ones
violating the social rules as I understand them.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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25 Apr 2005 08:08:01 AM |
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Douglas Berry wrote:
On 22 Apr 2005 22:18:12 -0500, Sender29 <sender28@email2me.net>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
Or "The Emporer doesn't even exist."
Yes. Being social includes, or can include, accepting some utter rubbish.
You don't tell mother to stuff "cooled boiled water," because it's bull.
If there was anything wrong with our tap water, then why are the sick,
frail and elderly not fed coiled boiled water?
You're social. You play along with the lie. Makes for an easier life.
You're confusing "sociable" with "mindless conformity."
And there you have theism in a nutshell.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe
in one fewer god than you do. When you understand
why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you
will understand why I dismiss yours."
-Stephen F. Roberts
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23 Apr 2005 02:04:31 AM |
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TV's Sender29 wrote:
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
Or "The Emporer doesn't even exist."
Yes. Being social includes, or can include, accepting some utter rubbish.
You don't tell mother to stuff "cooled boiled water," because it's bull.
If there was anything wrong with our tap water, then why are the sick,
frail and elderly not fed coiled boiled water?
You're social. You play along with the lie. Makes for an easier life.
Why should I play along with the lie? I don't need the crutch.
--
Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.
A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing.
- Maynard James Keenan
The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing. - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
aa #2133
ap #19
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| User: "Sender29" |
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23 Apr 2005 08:49:54 AM |
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
Why should I play along with the lie?
I don't need the crutch.
It is not for me to tell you what to do, but if you did not play along with
the lie in 1930s Germany, or 1990s & early twenty-first century Great
Britain, they might kill you, as they did others.
If you get away with being seriously disabled, you may need a crutch. :-|
I resuscitated your message, so this will appear as response to an earlier
contribution. Sorry.
--
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you,
then they fight you, then you win."
~ Mahatma Gandhi
http://www.geraintdavies.org/
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| User: "Dr. Jai Maharaj" |
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23 Apr 2005 05:37:04 PM |
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In article <Xns964196E53D395sandra28email2menet@127.0.0.1>,
Sender29 <sender28@email2me.net> posted:
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
Why should I play along with the lie?
I don't need the crutch.
It is not for me to tell you what to do, but if you did not play along with
the lie in 1930s Germany, or 1990s & early twenty-first century Great
Britain, they might kill you, as they did others.
If you get away with being seriously disabled, you may need a crutch. :-|
To decide whether or not to play along with a "lie" requires
the logical person to first determine if the so-called lie
is indeed a lie.
Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
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| User: "Dr. Jai Maharaj" |
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23 Apr 2005 06:19:08 PM |
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In article <1114297743.587691.309320@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> posted:
Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
In article <Xns964196E53D395sandra28email2menet@127.0.0.1>,
Sender29 <sender28@email2me.net> posted:
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
Why should I play along with the lie?
I don't need the crutch.
It is not for me to tell you what to do, but if you did not play
along with
the lie in 1930s Germany, or 1990s & early twenty-first century
Great
Britain, they might kill you, as they did others.
If you get away with being seriously disabled, you may need a
crutch. :-|
To decide whether or not to play along with a "lie" requires
the logical person to first determine if the so-called lie
is indeed a lie.
Oops, wrong again. . . .
Yes, you usually are that.
Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
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| User: "towelie" |
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| Title: Re: Is Atheism a religion? |
23 Apr 2005 10:30:16 PM |
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TV's Sender29 wrote:
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
Why should I play along with the lie?
I don't need the crutch.
It is not for me to tell you what to do, but if you did not play along
with
the lie in 1930s Germany, or 1990s & early twenty-first century Great
Britain, they might kill you, as they did others.
I'd like to see them try to kill me.
--
Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.
A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing.
- Maynard James Keenan
The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing. - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
aa #2133
ap #19
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| User: "Sennder29" |
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| Title: Re: Is Atheism a religion? |
24 Apr 2005 12:44:38 AM |
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
I'd like to see them
try to kill me.
They will not allow that. They get others to do it, by refusing to have
anything to do with you, doctors will suddenly be unable to detect even the
most obvious of your ailments, the Police unable to find anyone responsible
for that assault you suffered - even though you know his full name and
address, etc.
Your car will be stolen, lost without trace, or another cut right into you,
and disappear, as if it did not exist in the first place. The registration
plate number you wrote down, will not be assigned to any vehicle.
Attorneys will be unable to work for you - no matter how much money you
offer, and so on.
It's the British way.
--
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you,
then they fight you, then you win."
~ Mahatma Gandhi
http://www.geraintdavies.org/
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| User: "towelie" |
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| Title: Re: Is Atheism a religion? |
24 Apr 2005 03:11:58 AM |
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TV's Sennder29 wrote:
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
I'd like to see them
try to kill me.
They will not allow that. They get others to do it, by refusing to have
anything to do with you, doctors will suddenly be unable to detect even
the
most obvious of your ailments, the Police unable to find anyone
responsible
for that assault you suffered - even though you know his full name and
address, etc.
Your car will be stolen, lost without trace, or another cut right into
you,
and disappear, as if it did not exist in the first place. The
registration
plate number you wrote down, will not be assigned to any vehicle.
Attorneys will be unable to work for you - no matter how much money you
offer, and so on.
It's the British way.
But I'm not British. Although some of my ancestors were.
--
Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.
A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing.
- Maynard James Keenan
The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing. - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
aa #2133
ap #19
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| User: "Sender29" |
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| Title: Re: Is Atheism a religion? |
25 Apr 2005 03:26:56 AM |
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
But I'm not British. Although
some of my ancestors were.
Now you know why they left.
Britannia waives the rules.
--
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you,
then they fight you, then you win."
~ Mahatma Gandhi
http://www.geraintdavies.org/
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