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"Sugapablo" |
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06 Jan 2006 08:06:55 AM |
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Is Banning TV Shows The Same As Burning Books? WWJD? |
Recently in the news, there have been instances where conservatives have
been successfully lobbying for programs they find objectionable to be
removed from television broadcasts.
Two television stations just agreed to not broadcast "The Book Of Daniel",
and also recently bowing to pressure from conservative elements was Comedy
Central, who agreed not to rebroadcast an episode of South Park that
depicted a statue of the Virgin Mary "menstrating out her *****".
The question that comes to mind here is whether these actions taken by
conservatives are just the modern day equivalent of book burning?
That's not to say conservatives aren't still actually burning books. Here
you can see a photo of members of the "Harvest Assembly of God Church in
Penn Township sing songs as they burn books, videos and CDs that they have
judged offensive to their God" back in 2001.
As offensive as book burning has become to most civilized people,
shouldn't the prevention of television broadcasts deemed "offensive" by
the least silent mob be considered just as barbaric?
Continued with links: http://www.sugapablo.net/story.php?id=226
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Sugapablo
http://www.sugapablo.net
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| User: "Junior" |
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| Title: Re: Is Banning TV Shows The Same As Burning Books? WWJD? |
06 Jan 2006 08:09:38 AM |
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"Sugapablo" <russ@REMOVEsugapablo.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.01.06.14.06.47.126228@REMOVEsugapablo.com...
Recently in the news, there have been instances where conservatives have
been successfully lobbying for programs they find objectionable to be
removed from television broadcasts.
Two television stations just agreed to not broadcast "The Book Of Daniel",
and also recently bowing to pressure from conservative elements was Comedy
Central, who agreed not to rebroadcast an episode of South Park that
depicted a statue of the Virgin Mary "menstrating out her *****".
The question that comes to mind here is whether these actions taken by
conservatives are just the modern day equivalent of book burning?
That's not to say conservatives aren't still actually burning books. Here
you can see a photo of members of the "Harvest Assembly of God Church in
Penn Township sing songs as they burn books, videos and CDs that they have
judged offensive to their God" back in 2001.
As offensive as book burning has become to most civilized people,
shouldn't the prevention of television broadcasts deemed "offensive" by
the least silent mob be considered just as barbaric?
Continued with links: http://www.sugapablo.net/story.php?id=226
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Sugapablo
http://www.sugapablo.net
Burn a flag, burn a book. See any difference?
Jr.
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| User: "R. Pierce Butler" |
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| Title: Re: Is Banning TV Shows The Same As Burning Books? WWJD? |
06 Jan 2006 09:17:01 AM |
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"Junior" <spamless@patmeda.net> wrote in
news:11rsuh3lgrgmg73@corp.supernews.com:
"Sugapablo" <russ@REMOVEsugapablo.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.01.06.14.06.47.126228@REMOVEsugapablo.com...
Recently in the news, there have been instances where conservatives
have been successfully lobbying for programs they find objectionable to
be removed from television broadcasts.
Two television stations just agreed to not broadcast "The Book Of
Daniel", and also recently bowing to pressure from conservative
elements was Comedy Central, who agreed not to rebroadcast an episode
of South Park that depicted a statue of the Virgin Mary "menstrating
out her *****".
The question that comes to mind here is whether these actions taken by
conservatives are just the modern day equivalent of book burning?
That's not to say conservatives aren't still actually burning books.
Here you can see a photo of members of the "Harvest Assembly of God
Church in Penn Township sing songs as they burn books, videos and CDs
that they have judged offensive to their God" back in 2001.
As offensive as book burning has become to most civilized people,
shouldn't the prevention of television broadcasts deemed "offensive" by
the least silent mob be considered just as barbaric?
Continued with links: http://www.sugapablo.net/story.php?id=226
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Sugapablo
http://www.sugapablo.net
Burn a flag, burn a book. See any difference?
Jr.
One is cloth and the other is paper. What is your point?
Offensive? People are too "sensitive" and look for an excuse to whine.
Offensive is the magic word today. Don't like it? Don't watch it. It is
just that simple.
The religious right are out of control and need to be shut down.
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| User: "Brian E. Clark" |
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| Title: Re: Is Banning TV Shows The Same As Burning Books? WWJD? |
06 Jan 2006 12:37:39 PM |
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In article <11rsuh3lgrgmg73@corp.supernews.com>, Junior said...
Burn a flag, burn a book. See any difference?
Yes, of course I see a difference. Is anyone so blindingly
stupid that he cannot?
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Brian E. Clark
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Is Banning TV Shows The Same As Burning Books? WWJD? |
07 Jan 2006 05:26:43 PM |
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On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 13:37:39 -0500, Brian E. Clark
<reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote in alt.atheism
In article <11rsuh3lgrgmg73@corp.supernews.com>, Junior said...
Burn a flag, burn a book. See any difference?
Yes, of course I see a difference. Is anyone so blindingly
stupid that he cannot?
Myraid, I'm sorry to say.
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Jean Smith" |
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| Title: Re: Is Banning TV Shows The Same As Burning Books? WWJD? |
07 Jan 2006 07:41:52 PM |
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In article <3hj0s1hjtu1dsoipbinmtgp9fd1sillu1u@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 13:37:39 -0500, Brian E. Clark
<reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote in alt.atheism
In article <11rsuh3lgrgmg73@corp.supernews.com>, Junior said...
Burn a flag, burn a book. See any difference?
Yes, of course I see a difference. Is anyone so blindingly
stupid that he cannot?
Myraid, I'm sorry to say.
The book may be irreplaceable.
I wouldn't say myriad either.
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http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051220-5808.html
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/9/10292/17439
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051220-5813.html
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Is Banning TV Shows The Same As Burning Books? WWJD? |
08 Jan 2006 03:08:47 PM |
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On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 01:41:52 GMT, Jean Smith <gotermite@yahoo.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <3hj0s1hjtu1dsoipbinmtgp9fd1sillu1u@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 13:37:39 -0500, Brian E. Clark
<reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote in alt.atheism
In article <11rsuh3lgrgmg73@corp.supernews.com>, Junior said...
Burn a flag, burn a book. See any difference?
Yes, of course I see a difference. Is anyone so blindingly
stupid that he cannot?
Myraid, I'm sorry to say.
The book may be irreplaceable.
True.
I wouldn't say myriad either.
That is your perogative.
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "cloim" |
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| Title: Re: Is Banning TV Shows The Same As Burning Books? WWJD? |
06 Jan 2006 05:36:53 PM |
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On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 09:09:38 -0500, Junior wrote:
"Sugapablo" <russ@REMOVEsugapablo.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.01.06.14.06.47.126228@REMOVEsugapablo.com...
Recently in the news, there have been instances where conservatives have
been successfully lobbying for programs they find objectionable to be
removed from television broadcasts.
Two television stations just agreed to not broadcast "The Book Of Daniel",
and also recently bowing to pressure from conservative elements was Comedy
Central, who agreed not to rebroadcast an episode of South Park that
depicted a statue of the Virgin Mary "menstrating out her *****".
The question that comes to mind here is whether these actions taken by
conservatives are just the modern day equivalent of book burning?
That's not to say conservatives aren't still actually burning books. Here
you can see a photo of members of the "Harvest Assembly of God Church in
Penn Township sing songs as they burn books, videos and CDs that they have
judged offensive to their God" back in 2001.
As offensive as book burning has become to most civilized people,
shouldn't the prevention of television broadcasts deemed "offensive" by
the least silent mob be considered just as barbaric?
Continued with links: http://www.sugapablo.net/story.php?id=226
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Sugapablo
http://www.sugapablo.net
Burn a flag, burn a book. See any difference?
Jr.
Not in this context. Both are protests.
"Book burning" in the historical context (those in power redefining history
and destroying knowledge) is a completely different thing. Although I'm sure
some of the book burning protests are carried out by people that would like
it to be official.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Is Banning TV Shows The Same As Burning Books? WWJD? |
07 Jan 2006 05:26:11 PM |
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On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 09:09:38 -0500, "Junior" <spamless@patmeda.net> wrote
in alt.atheism
"Sugapablo" <russ@REMOVEsugapablo.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.01.06.14.06.47.126228@REMOVEsugapablo.com...
Recently in the news, there have been instances where conservatives have
been successfully lobbying for programs they find objectionable to be
removed from television broadcasts.
Two television stations just agreed to not broadcast "The Book Of Daniel",
and also recently bowing to pressure from conservative elements was Comedy
Central, who agreed not to rebroadcast an episode of South Park that
depicted a statue of the Virgin Mary "menstrating out her *****".
The question that comes to mind here is whether these actions taken by
conservatives are just the modern day equivalent of book burning?
That's not to say conservatives aren't still actually burning books. Here
you can see a photo of members of the "Harvest Assembly of God Church in
Penn Township sing songs as they burn books, videos and CDs that they have
judged offensive to their God" back in 2001.
As offensive as book burning has become to most civilized people,
shouldn't the prevention of television broadcasts deemed "offensive" by
the least silent mob be considered just as barbaric?
Continued with links: http://www.sugapablo.net/story.php?id=226
--
Sugapablo
http://www.sugapablo.net
Burn a flag, burn a book. See any difference?
A very large one. It tells much that you don't.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Jericho" |
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| Title: Re: Is Banning TV Shows The Same As Burning Books? WWJD? |
06 Jan 2006 12:53:40 PM |
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What a maroon!
A flag is a symbol - means many different things to many different
people.
A book is information - be it for education, entertainment, or
propaganda.
The idea of the flag has been used to motivate and control people for
ages.
Creating books has been used to motivate people and destroying books
has been used to control people.
The differences are astronomical.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Is Banning TV Shows The Same As Burning Books? WWJD? |
07 Jan 2006 05:25:25 PM |
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On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 09:06:55 -0500, Sugapablo <russ@REMOVEsugapablo.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
Recently in the news, there have been instances where conservatives have
been successfully lobbying for programs they find objectionable to be
removed from television broadcasts.
Two television stations just agreed to not broadcast "The Book Of Daniel",
and also recently bowing to pressure from conservative elements was Comedy
Central, who agreed not to rebroadcast an episode of South Park that
depicted a statue of the Virgin Mary "menstrating out her *****".
The question that comes to mind here is whether these actions taken by
conservatives are just the modern day equivalent of book burning?
That's not to say conservatives aren't still actually burning books. Here
you can see a photo of members of the "Harvest Assembly of God Church in
Penn Township sing songs as they burn books, videos and CDs that they have
judged offensive to their God" back in 2001.
As offensive as book burning has become to most civilized people,
shouldn't the prevention of television broadcasts deemed "offensive" by
the least silent mob be considered just as barbaric?
In a rational world, yes. Sadly, education is a dim flame while the
idiocy of bronze age superstitions remain a bonfire among the cowardly.
Continued with links: http://www.sugapablo.net/story.php?id=226
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "George Orwell" |
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| Title: Re: Is Banning TV Shows The Same As Burning Books? WWJD? |
06 Jan 2006 03:04:20 PM |
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Onanite wrote:
Religion always likes to control everything they can touch. Look at Iran.
Right wing Christians here in America would love to have their form of
Christianity as the state religion. They would outlaw anything other than
fundamentalist myth and doctrine.
Glaring logical fallacy. You're trying to paint the whole with the actions
of the minority. The fringe elements of *ANY* definable class of people
want to "control everything they can touch". That is the very definition
of then sort of extremism you're describing. The simple truth of the
matter in most cases, is that unless a belief is extremest at its core,
the vast majority of those who hold a given belief care little or nothing
about forcing their principals on others in any significant way.
That goes for Christians, Islamics, Buddhists, whatever. Equally.
You see their religion and their God is very weak. There is no real draw
They're all weak. Deities are security blankets invented by people who are
afraid of the dark. What's your point? Or did you even really have a valid
point to begin with?
Methinks not.
<snip>
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| User: "Onanite" |
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06 Jan 2006 10:35:18 AM |
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Religion always likes to control everything they can touch. Look at
Iran. Right wing Christians here in America would love to have their
form of Christianity as the state religion. They would outlaw anything
other than fundamentalist myth and doctrine.
You see their religion and their God is very weak. There is no real
draw to those of us that have an ability to discern fact from fiction.
Their silly ideas are old and very dated. Heaven, hell, come on folks,
it may have worked in the middle ages, but is lacking for people with
an IQ of above 90.
What I find really funny is the coalition the right wing has formed in
this country. Catholics, evangelicals, Mormons, JW's and all of their
sects and denominations. IF they were to get rid of anything non
"Christian" in the nation, they would all then turn on each other for
control. The evangelicals would try to outlaw Catholic "idol worship."
Mormons would force the Book of Mormon to be taught in THEIR schools
.... it would go on, of course, because that is what religion does.
The followers of these out of date myths are just trying to hang on,
sometimes they succeed like in Iran. We need to stop them from
succeeding here.
Onanite
http://onanite.blogspot.com/
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| User: "Bill" |
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06 Jan 2006 12:54:25 PM |
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"Onanite" <mastrait@efn.org> wrote in message
news:1136565318.503205.10940@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Religion always likes to control everything they can touch. Look at
Iran. Right wing Christians here in America would love to have their
form of Christianity as the state religion. They would outlaw anything
other than fundamentalist myth and doctrine.
You see their religion and their God is very weak. There is no real
draw to those of us that have an ability to discern fact from fiction.
Their silly ideas are old and very dated. Heaven, hell, come on folks,
it may have worked in the middle ages, but is lacking for people with
an IQ of above 90.
What I find really funny is the coalition the right wing has formed in
this country. Catholics, evangelicals, Mormons, JW's and all of their
sects and denominations. IF they were to get rid of anything non
"Christian" in the nation, they would all then turn on each other for
control. The evangelicals would try to outlaw Catholic "idol worship."
Mormons would force the Book of Mormon to be taught in THEIR schools
... it would go on, of course, because that is what religion does.
The followers of these out of date myths are just trying to hang on,
sometimes they succeed like in Iran. We need to stop them from
succeeding here.
Onanite
http://onanite.blogspot.com/
A very sound observation based on historical facts.
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| User: "Adolphe Menjou Adolphe" |
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| Title: Re: Is Banning TV Shows The Same As Burning Books? WWJD? |
07 Jan 2006 12:39:41 PM |
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Sugapablo wrote:
Recently in the news, there have been instances where conservatives have
been successfully lobbying for programs they find objectionable to be
removed from television broadcasts.
Two television stations just agreed to not broadcast "The Book Of Daniel",
and also recently bowing to pressure from conservative elements was Comedy
Central, who agreed not to rebroadcast an episode of South Park that
depicted a statue of the Virgin Mary "menstrating out her *****".
The question that comes to mind here is whether these actions taken by
conservatives are just the modern day equivalent of book burning?
That's not to say conservatives aren't still actually burning books. Here
you can see a photo of members of the "Harvest Assembly of God Church in
Penn Township sing songs as they burn books, videos and CDs that they have
judged offensive to their God" back in 2001.
As offensive as book burning has become to most civilized people,
shouldn't the prevention of television broadcasts deemed "offensive" by
the least silent mob be considered just as barbaric?
Continued with links: http://www.sugapablo.net/story.php?id=226
--
Sugapablo
http://www.sugapablo.net
http://www.reandev.com/taliban/
JAM
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| User: "Scott Richter" |
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| Title: Re: Is Banning TV Shows The Same As Burning Books? WWJD? |
07 Jan 2006 12:59:43 PM |
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Adolphe Menjou <"Adolphe Menjou"@pgh.net> wrote:
http://www.reandev.com/taliban/
Thanks, that is a terrific, if depressing, web page. The enmity and rage
expressed by these people knows no bounds.
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| User: "Adolphe Menjou Adolphe" |
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07 Jan 2006 07:00:34 PM |
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Scott Richter wrote:
Adolphe Menjou <"Adolphe Menjou"@pgh.net> wrote:
http://www.reandev.com/taliban/
Thanks, that is a terrific, if depressing, web page. The enmity and rage
expressed by these people knows no bounds.
Know our enemy.
JAM
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| User: "FunkyDevil" |
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06 Jan 2006 10:29:27 AM |
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Sugapablo wrote:
Recently in the news, there have been instances where conservatives have
been successfully lobbying for programs they find objectionable to be
removed from television broadcasts.
Two television stations just agreed to not broadcast "The Book Of Daniel",
and also recently bowing to pressure from conservative elements was Comedy
Central, who agreed not to rebroadcast an episode of South Park that
depicted a statue of the Virgin Mary "menstrating out her *****".
The question that comes to mind here is whether these actions taken by
conservatives are just the modern day equivalent of book burning?
The only way to defeat religious insanity is to be as loud and
obnoxious and annoying and willing to kill as they are.
That's the difference , they scream and yell until somebody listens ,
and if nobody listens they are willing to fight and kill. They don't
just walk away.
So to defeat them you must fight fire with nuclear power.
You must be many times more angry than them , and many times more
violent than them.
And many times more ready to protest than them.
If you are unwilling to be louder than they are , they will be heard
and you will not.
For instance , why is the 700 club still on the air ? They are scam
artists that promote vengeance and hate and false medical healing
through your TV , who's protesting this ?
Religioustards care about saying and controlling stuff , a lot of other
people don't really care if 700 club exists or not , that's the problem.
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