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"Thomas" |
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29 Jan 2008 09:53:42 AM |
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Is Global Warming the Global Jonestown? |
I watched a BBC documentary on Jim Jones "socialist, sustainable
paradise" and the appalling loss of life which it resulted in back in
1979 and it was an incredible piece of television. Compelling and very
upsetting. I had no idea that Jones' voice on the speaker system had
been recorded as the mass killings took place. To hear women screaming
as their infants and children were taken from them as Jim Jones shouts
on the microphone "mother, please do not be like this, give your child
up to God."
I know a lot of people over the years have made fun of the Jonestown
thing and Kool-Aid jokes. But this documentary really brought home
what a horrible human tragedy it was. The guy who escaped after her
could not talk his wife out of killing herself and their son was just
heartbreaking to listen too. Coupled with this he also lost his sister
and nephew and niece as well.
What it also brought home was that the most pro-Jones fanatics tended
to be middle-class and above, college educated types who enforced this
lifestyle using dreams of utophia first, paranoia secondly, then
murder later when followers began to question the cult.
So much of the same psychological dynamic at Jonestown, you can
clearly see it again with the Al Gore/AGW folks. But this is even more
frightening as mass media allows this to happen on a global scale
these days and people in the West are even more stupid and sheep-like
than there were back in the 1970's.
As long as there are people who want some uthopian dream and there is
a leader to exploit them it will always happen. Matters not what their
education level is. In fact, I would say the more educated a person
is, the more they are likely to lack real social intelligence and
therefore more more prone to be taken in by cult leaders types.
You can manipulate just about anyone with a false promises which play
on their insecurities, and then later paranoia.
I would not be surprised if any of the eco-projects around the world
don't end up like Jonestown. Watching the Jonestown story at the
begining it was just like these "sustainable" communities with
socialist ideals we see springing up all over with civil servants and
other middle-class easily manipulated types being controlled as soon
as their dream starts to wobble.
The whole Global Warming crowd are all potential Jonestowns in the
making.
If you listen to how Al Gore slowly and patronisingly speaks on TV or
in public, and then Jim Jones at Jonestown on the speaker system. It
is spine-chilling.
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| User: "Bawana" |
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| Title: Re: Is Global Warming the Global Jonestown? |
31 Jan 2008 11:55:02 AM |
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On Jan 31, 12:33 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 9:26 AM:
On Jan 31, 11:45 am, Wexford <wrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
Without
people of lower intellectual ability there would be no one to do the
necessary dirty jobs that keep a city running or a farming community
viable.
Or to vote demonkrap.
Trying to horn in on the "lower intellectual ability" crowd there, Bawana?
Nuh, I'd never vote demonkrap.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: Is Global Warming the Global Jonestown? |
31 Jan 2008 12:02:39 PM |
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Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 9:55 AM:
On Jan 31, 12:33 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 9:26 AM:
On Jan 31, 11:45 am, Wexford <wrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
Without
people of lower intellectual ability there would be no one to do the
necessary dirty jobs that keep a city running or a farming community
viable.
Or to vote demonkrap.
Trying to horn in on the "lower intellectual ability" crowd there, Bawana?
Nuh, I'd never vote demonkrap.
You're still trying to horn in on the "lower intellectual ability"
crowd, though, with your childishness. Do grow up and try to shed your
DDS in your future posts; it makes you look idiotic.
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* their legislature should make no law respecting *
* an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the *
* free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of *
* separation between church and state." *
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| User: "Bawana" |
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| Title: Re: Is Global Warming the Global Jonestown? |
31 Jan 2008 06:13:41 PM |
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On Jan 31, 1:02 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 9:55 AM:
On Jan 31, 12:33 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 9:26 AM:
On Jan 31, 11:45 am, Wexford <wrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
Without
people of lower intellectual ability there would be no one to do the
necessary dirty jobs that keep a city running or a farming community
viable.
Or to vote demonkrap.
Trying to horn in on the "lower intellectual ability" crowd there, Bawana?
Nuh, I'd never vote demonkrap.
You're still trying to horn in on the "lower intellectual ability"
Nuh, I'd never vote demonkrap.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: Is Global Warming the Global Jonestown? |
31 Jan 2008 08:57:25 PM |
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Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 4:13 PM:
On Jan 31, 1:02 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 9:55 AM:
On Jan 31, 12:33 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 9:26 AM:
On Jan 31, 11:45 am, Wexford <wrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
Without
people of lower intellectual ability there would be no one to do the
necessary dirty jobs that keep a city running or a farming community
viable.
Or to vote demonkrap.
Trying to horn in on the "lower intellectual ability" crowd there, Bawana?
Nuh, I'd never vote demonkrap.
You're still trying to horn in on the "lower intellectual ability"
Nuh, I'd never vote demonkrap.
So, can't reply to the full text and must comment out-of-context and
must, therefore, cowardly snip out the things you can't respond to?
How unsurprising.
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act *
* of the whole American people which declared that *
* their legislature should make no law respecting *
* an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the *
* free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of *
* separation between church and state." *
* --Thomas Jefferson, 1802 *
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| User: "Bawana" |
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| Title: Re: Is Global Warming the Global Jonestown? |
31 Jan 2008 09:37:39 PM |
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On Jan 31, 9:57 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 4:13 PM:
On Jan 31, 1:02 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 9:55 AM:
On Jan 31, 12:33 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 9:26 AM:
On Jan 31, 11:45 am, Wexford <wrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
Without
people of lower intellectual ability there would be no one to do the
necessary dirty jobs that keep a city running or a farming community
viable.
Or to vote demonkrap.
Trying to horn in on the "lower intellectual ability" crowd there, Bawana?
Nuh, I'd never vote demonkrap.
You're still trying to horn in on the "lower intellectual ability"
Nuh, I'd never vote demonkrap.
So, can't reply to the full text and must comment out-of-context and
must, therefore, cowardly snip out the things you can't respond to?
I replied to your retarded retort, ***** for brains.
You make no sense, tard.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: Is Global Warming the Global Jonestown? |
31 Jan 2008 10:07:28 PM |
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Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 7:37 PM:
On Jan 31, 9:57 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 4:13 PM:
On Jan 31, 1:02 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 9:55 AM:
On Jan 31, 12:33 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 9:26 AM:
On Jan 31, 11:45 am, Wexford <wrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
Without
people of lower intellectual ability there would be no one to do the
necessary dirty jobs that keep a city running or a farming community
viable.
Or to vote demonkrap.
Trying to horn in on the "lower intellectual ability" crowd there, Bawana?
Nuh, I'd never vote demonkrap.
You're still trying to horn in on the "lower intellectual ability"
Nuh, I'd never vote demonkrap.
So, can't reply to the full text and must comment out-of-context and
must, therefore, cowardly snip out the things you can't respond to?
I replied to your retarded retort, ***** for brains.
No, you replied to PART of my retort. Your "demonkrap" childishness
doesn't fly with me. Nor does "retarded" as an insult, "***** for
brains" or "tard" (as below).
You make no sense, tard.
Oh, do grow up. Your Democratic Derangement Syndrome is infantile and
has no place in an adult discussion.
...."demonkrap"...really. How old are you?
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act *
* of the whole American people which declared that *
* their legislature should make no law respecting *
* an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the *
* free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of *
* separation between church and state." *
* --Thomas Jefferson, 1802 *
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| User: "Bawana" |
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| Title: Re: Is Global Warming the Global Jonestown? |
01 Feb 2008 08:48:40 AM |
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On Jan 31, 11:07 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 7:37 PM:
On Jan 31, 9:57 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 4:13 PM:
On Jan 31, 1:02 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 9:55 AM:
On Jan 31, 12:33 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 9:26 AM:
On Jan 31, 11:45 am, Wexford <wrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
Without
people of lower intellectual ability there would be no one to do the
necessary dirty jobs that keep a city running or a farming community
viable.
Or to vote demonkrap.
Trying to horn in on the "lower intellectual ability" crowd there, Bawana?
Nuh, I'd never vote demonkrap.
You're still trying to horn in on the "lower intellectual ability"
Nuh, I'd never vote demonkrap.
So, can't reply to the full text and must comment out-of-context and
must, therefore, cowardly snip out the things you can't respond to?
I replied to your retarded retort, ***** for brains.
No, you replied to PART of my retort.
I have a solution for you, little tardboy:
Go cry to yo' momma,
"Mommy, mommy, da mean man only replied to PART of my retarded
retort!"
You make no sense, tard.
Oh, do grow up.
That won't change the fact that you make no sense, tard.
Now,go vote demonkrap with the rest of your "lower intellectual
ability" crowd.
I'd never vote demonkrap.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: Is Global Warming the Global Jonestown? |
01 Feb 2008 10:54:50 AM |
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Bawana said the following on 2/1/2008 6:48 AM:
On Jan 31, 11:07 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 7:37 PM:
On Jan 31, 9:57 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 4:13 PM:
On Jan 31, 1:02 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 9:55 AM:
On Jan 31, 12:33 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 9:26 AM:
On Jan 31, 11:45 am, Wexford <wrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
Without
people of lower intellectual ability there would be no one to do the
necessary dirty jobs that keep a city running or a farming community
viable.
Or to vote demonkrap.
Trying to horn in on the "lower intellectual ability" crowd there, Bawana?
Nuh, I'd never vote demonkrap.
You're still trying to horn in on the "lower intellectual ability"
Nuh, I'd never vote demonkrap.
So, can't reply to the full text and must comment out-of-context and
must, therefore, cowardly snip out the things you can't respond to?
I replied to your retarded retort, ***** for brains.
No, you replied to PART of my retort.
I have a solution for you, little tardboy:
Go cry to yo' momma,
"Mommy, mommy, da mean man only replied to PART of my retarded
retort!"
Childish moron.
You make no sense, tard.
Oh, do grow up.
That won't change the fact that you make no sense, tard.
Now,go vote demonkrap with the rest of your "lower intellectual
ability" crowd.
I'd never vote demonkrap.
How old are you?
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act *
* of the whole American people which declared that *
* their legislature should make no law respecting *
* an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the *
* free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of *
* separation between church and state." *
* --Thomas Jefferson, 1802 *
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| User: "Bawana" |
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01 Feb 2008 11:40:06 AM |
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On Feb 1, 11:54 am, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 2/1/2008 6:48 AM:
On Jan 31, 11:07 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 7:37 PM:
On Jan 31, 9:57 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 4:13 PM:
On Jan 31, 1:02 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 9:55 AM:
On Jan 31, 12:33 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 9:26 AM:
On Jan 31, 11:45 am, Wexford <wrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
Without
people of lower intellectual ability there would be no one to do the
necessary dirty jobs that keep a city running or a farming community
viable.
Or to vote demonkrap.
Trying to horn in on the "lower intellectual ability" crowd there, Bawana?
Nuh, I'd never vote demonkrap.
You're still trying to horn in on the "lower intellectual ability"
Nuh, I'd never vote demonkrap.
So, can't reply to the full text and must comment out-of-context and
must, therefore, cowardly snip out the things you can't respond to?
I replied to your retarded retort, ***** for brains.
No, you replied to PART of my retort.
I have a solution for you, little tardboy:
Go cry to yo' momma,
"Mommy, mommy, da mean man only replied to PART of my retarded
retort!"
Childish moron.
That won't change the fact that you make no sense, tard.
Now,go vote demonkrap with the rest of your "lower intellectual
ability" crowd.
I'd never vote demonkrap.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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01 Feb 2008 11:54:04 AM |
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Bawana said the following on 2/1/2008 9:40 AM:
On Feb 1, 11:54 am, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 2/1/2008 6:48 AM:
On Jan 31, 11:07 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 7:37 PM:
On Jan 31, 9:57 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 4:13 PM:
On Jan 31, 1:02 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 9:55 AM:
On Jan 31, 12:33 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 9:26 AM:
On Jan 31, 11:45 am, Wexford <wrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
Without
people of lower intellectual ability there would be no one to do the
necessary dirty jobs that keep a city running or a farming community
viable.
Or to vote demonkrap.
Trying to horn in on the "lower intellectual ability" crowd there, Bawana?
Nuh, I'd never vote demonkrap.
You're still trying to horn in on the "lower intellectual ability"
Nuh, I'd never vote demonkrap.
So, can't reply to the full text and must comment out-of-context and
must, therefore, cowardly snip out the things you can't respond to?
I replied to your retarded retort, ***** for brains.
No, you replied to PART of my retort.
I have a solution for you, little tardboy:
Go cry to yo' momma,
"Mommy, mommy, da mean man only replied to PART of my retarded
retort!"
Childish moron.
That won't change the fact that you make no sense, tard.
If you grew up, you'd understand it.
Now,go vote demonkrap with the rest of your "lower intellectual
ability" crowd.
I'd never vote demonkrap.
I don't vote "demonkrap".
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act *
* of the whole American people which declared that *
* their legislature should make no law respecting *
* an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the *
* free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of *
* separation between church and state." *
* --Thomas Jefferson, 1802 *
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| User: "Bawana" |
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01 Feb 2008 01:12:53 PM |
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On Feb 1, 12:54 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 2/1/2008 9:40 AM:
On Feb 1, 11:54 am, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 2/1/2008 6:48 AM:
On Jan 31, 11:07 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 7:37 PM:
On Jan 31, 9:57 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 4:13 PM:
On Jan 31, 1:02 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 9:55 AM:
On Jan 31, 12:33 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bawana said the following on 1/31/2008 9:26 AM:
On Jan 31, 11:45 am, Wexford <wrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
Without
people of lower intellectual ability there would be no one to do the
necessary dirty jobs that keep a city running or a farming community
viable.
Or to vote demonkrap.
Trying to horn in on the "lower intellectual ability" crowd there, Bawana?
Nuh, I'd never vote demonkrap.
You're still trying to horn in on the "lower intellectual ability"
Nuh, I'd never vote demonkrap.
So, can't reply to the full text and must comment out-of-context and
must, therefore, cowardly snip out the things you can't respond to?
I replied to your retarded retort, ***** for brains.
No, you replied to PART of my retort.
I have a solution for you, little tardboy:
Go cry to yo' momma,
"Mommy, mommy, da mean man only replied to PART of my retarded
retort!"
Childish moron.
That won't change the fact that you make no sense, tard.
If you grew up, you'd understand it.
I understand just fine, you left-turd-cult- malignant-never had an
original thought in your whole pathetic life- narcissist retard.
Now, bark like a dog!
I never vote demonkrap.
Dazzle us with another "child" lamer, fucktard.
I'm sure some of your peer group, the "lower intellectual ability"
crowd and assorted gorons, will giggle.
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| User: "Lloyd" |
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| Title: Re: Is Global Warming the Global Jonestown? |
30 Jan 2008 01:23:11 PM |
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On Jan 30, 8:48 am, Thomas <kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 30, 1:08 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:25:36 -0800 in
490ceb2a-c91e-43fb-bbe0-bfc816569...@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, Thomas
<kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 29, 11:57 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Global warming is science.
So was eugenics.
Oh my, argument by absurd smears, that's persuasive.
Eugenics was a real scientific movement completely accepted by the
"Eugenics is a social philosophy which advocates the improvement of
human hereditary traits through various forms of intervention."
wikipedia
entire scientific world in its day. It was the "concensus" at the
time, and lo and behold there is a movement within AGW called the
Optimum Population Trust composed of scientists who are demanding that
humans be prevented from breeding accroding to their potential carbon
footprint. The comparision with eugenics is 100% valid.
That's not any different that the old Eurgenics scientists demanding
that genentic defects be removed from the bloodines in order to serve
the common good.
Different brand of science, same fuckwit meglomanic scientists out of
control. AGW in time will prove itself to be the biggest own goal for
science since Eurgenics. .
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| User: "Wexford" |
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| Title: Re: Is Global Warming the Global Jonestown? |
31 Jan 2008 10:35:48 AM |
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On Jan 30, 8:48=A0am, Thomas <kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 30, 1:08=A0pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:25:36 -0800 in
490ceb2a-c91e-43fb-bbe0-bfc816569...@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, Thoma=
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<kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 29, 11:57 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Global warming is science.
So was eugenics.
Oh my, argument by absurd smears, that's persuasive.
????????????????
Eugenics was a real scientific movement completely accepted by the
entire scientific world in its day. It was the "concensus" at the
time, and lo and behold there is a movement within AGW called the
Optimum Population Trust composed of scientists who are demanding that
humans be prevented from breeding accroding to their potential carbon
footprint. The comparision with eugenics is 100% valid.
Eugenics was a movement of crackpots. Period. It was never "accepted"
by anyone save for a clutch of racists.
That's not any different that the old Eurgenics scientists demanding
that genentic defects be removed from the bloodines in order to serve
the common good.
Which has nothing whatsoever to do with Global Warming.
Different brand of science, same fuckwit meglomanic scientists out of
control. AGW in time will prove itself to be the biggest own goal for
science since Eurgenics. .
OK, *****, but tell us this, in what way do we suffer if we find
ways to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, preserve the earth, and
make energy cheaper (because of better efficiencies) and more
available. Tell us one thing that will harm us if we act as if Global
Warming is a real threat.
Tghe only maniacs I see are the fuckwits who oppose the evidence for
Global Warming because (1) Al Gore is involved, (2) It's a "Liberal"
thing, and (3) I have a right to despoil the earth if I want to.
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| User: "Kenny McCormack" |
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| Title: Re: Is Global Warming the Global Jonestown? |
31 Jan 2008 12:48:40 PM |
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In article <204707f6-a983-43ea-9841-89678afa5e16@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Wexford <wryan77@gmail.com> wrote:
....
OK, *****, but tell us this, in what way do we suffer if we find
ways to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, preserve the earth, and
make energy cheaper (because of better efficiencies) and more
available. Tell us one thing that will harm us if we act as if Global
Warming is a real threat.
Well, for one thing, people who bought into oil futures in the $90s,
expecting them to go above and stay above $100. Those people will
suffer greatly if oil becomes less essential to life as we know it.
You wouldn't want that on your conscience, would you?
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| User: "Wexford" |
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31 Jan 2008 05:54:55 PM |
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On Jan 31, 1:48=A0pm, (Kenny McCormack)
wrote:
In article <204707f6-a983-43ea-9841-89678afa5...@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.c=
om>,Wexford =A0<wrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
...
OK, *****, but tell us this, in what way do we suffer if we find
ways to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, preserve the earth, and
make energy cheaper (because of better efficiencies) and more
available. Tell us one thing that will harm us if we act as if Global
Warming is a real threat.
Well, for one thing, people who bought into oil futures in the $90s,
expecting them to go above and stay above $100. =A0Those people will
suffer greatly if oil becomes less essential to life as we know it.
You wouldn't want that on your conscience, would you?
I don't know how I would sleep at nights. By the way, I don't know of
futures contract that goes out 17-18 years, but if there is one, I
wouldn't weep for the people who dumped money on it.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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31 Jan 2008 06:07:21 PM |
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:48:40 +0000 in fnt568$b3j$1@news.xmission.com,
gazelle@xmission.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
In article
<204707f6-a983-43ea-9841-89678afa5e16@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Wexford <wryan77@gmail.com> wrote:
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OK, *****, but tell us this, in what way do we suffer if we find ways
to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, preserve the earth, and make
energy cheaper (because of better efficiencies) and more available. Tell
us one thing that will harm us if we act as if Global Warming is a real
threat.
Well, for one thing, people who bought into oil futures in the $90s,
expecting them to go above and stay above $100. Those people will
suffer greatly if oil becomes less essential to life as we know it.
You wouldn't want that on your conscience, would you?
Pity poor Exxon-Mobile, their profits didn't break $10 billion last time
round...
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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I'm not good or real... I'm evil, and imaginary.
-- Karen Walker
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| User: "Bawana" |
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| Title: Re: Is Global Warming the Global Jonestown? |
31 Jan 2008 11:22:43 AM |
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On Jan 31, 11:35 am, Wexford <wrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 30, 8:48 am, Thomas <kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 30, 1:08 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:25:36 -0800 in
490ceb2a-c91e-43fb-bbe0-bfc816569...@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, Thomas
<kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 29, 11:57 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Global warming is science.
So was eugenics.
Oh my, argument by absurd smears, that's persuasive.
????????????????
Eugenics was a real scientific movement completely accepted by the
entire scientific world in its day. It was the "concensus" at the
time, and lo and behold there is a movement within AGW called the
Optimum Population Trust composed of scientists who are demanding that
humans be prevented from breeding accroding to their potential carbon
footprint. The comparision with eugenics is 100% valid.
Eugenics was a movement of crackpots. Period. It was never "accepted"
by anyone save for a clutch of racists.
That's not any different that the old Eurgenics scientists demanding
that genentic defects be removed from the bloodines in order to serve
the common good.
Which has nothing whatsoever to do with Global Warming.
Different brand of science, same fuckwit meglomanic scientists out of
control. AGW in time will prove itself to be the biggest own goal for
science since Eurgenics. .
OK, *****, but tell us this, in what way do we suffer if we find
ways to reduce our dependence on foreign oil,
Now, there's something new from the "never had an original idea in
your whole pathetic life", retard.
That's been talked about since Jimmy Carter.
All you tards do is talk and tax.
preserve the earth, and
make energy cheaper (because of better efficiencies) and more
available.
Now, there's something new from the "never had an original idea in
your whole pathetic life", retard.
That's been talked about since Tesla, tard.
Science hit a brick wall or are they just waiting for government funds
to make their breakthroughs?
Tell us one thing that will harm us if we act as if Global
Warming is a real threat.
Taxing the air we breath will harm us non parasites, you left-turd
retard.
Non-productive left-turds will be unaffected.
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| User: "Wexford" |
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| Title: Re: Is Global Warming the Global Jonestown? |
31 Jan 2008 05:53:31 PM |
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On Jan 31, 12:22=A0pm, Bawana <mrbawan...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jan 31, 11:35 am, Wexford <wrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 30, 8:48 am, Thomas <kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 30, 1:08 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:25:36 -0800 in
490ceb2a-c91e-43fb-bbe0-bfc816569...@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, T=
homas
<kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 29, 11:57 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Global warming is science.
So was eugenics.
Oh my, argument by absurd smears, that's persuasive.
????????????????
Eugenics was a real scientific movement completely accepted by the
entire scientific world in its day. It was the "concensus" at the
time, and lo and behold there is a movement within AGW called the
Optimum Population Trust composed of scientists who are demanding that=
humans be prevented from breeding accroding to their potential carbon
footprint. The comparision with eugenics is 100% valid.
Eugenics was a movement of crackpots. Period. It was never "accepted"
by anyone save for a clutch of racists.
That's not any different that the old Eurgenics scientists demanding
that genentic defects be removed from the bloodines in order to serve
the common good.
Which has nothing whatsoever to do with Global Warming.
Different brand of science, same fuckwit meglomanic scientists out of
control. AGW in time will prove itself to be the biggest own goal for
science since Eurgenics. .
?????????????
OK, *****, but tell us this, in what way do we suffer if we find
ways to reduce our dependence on foreign oil,
Now, there's something new from the "never had an original idea in
your whole pathetic life", retard.
That's been talked about since Jimmy Carter.
All you tards do is talk and tax.
Can't answer the question? By the way, CAFE standards and other
methods have made our enegy usage considerably more efficient. We
could do one hell of a lot better if the grafters in the Republican
party hadn't opposed every measure to increase mileage standards and
develop alternative energy soruces.
preserve the earth, and
make energy cheaper (because of better efficiencies) and more
available.
Now, there's something new from the "never had an original idea in
your whole pathetic life", retard.
That's been talked about since Tesla, tard.
Science hit a brick wall or are they just waiting for government funds
to make their breakthroughs?
No brick wall, just assholes like you who are so stuck in their own
excrement they don't want to move or can't move.
Tell us one thing that will harm us if we act as if Global
Warming is a real threat.
Taxing the air we breath will harm us non parasites, you left-turd
retard.
Non-productive left-turds will be unaffected.
Can't answer can you? Poor little you. Now leave the computer alone.
The kid in line behind you has homework to do.
- Show quoted text -
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| User: "Bawana" |
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| Title: Re: Is Global Warming the Global Jonestown? |
31 Jan 2008 06:23:56 PM |
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On Jan 31, 6:53 pm, Wexford <wrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 31, 12:22 pm, Bawana <mrbawan...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jan 31, 11:35 am, Wexford <wrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 30, 8:48 am, Thomas <kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 30, 1:08 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:25:36 -0800 in
490ceb2a-c91e-43fb-bbe0-bfc816569...@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, Thomas
<kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 29, 11:57 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Global warming is science.
So was eugenics.
Oh my, argument by absurd smears, that's persuasive.
????????????????
Eugenics was a real scientific movement completely accepted by the
entire scientific world in its day. It was the "concensus" at the
time, and lo and behold there is a movement within AGW called the
Optimum Population Trust composed of scientists who are demanding that
humans be prevented from breeding accroding to their potential carbon
footprint. The comparision with eugenics is 100% valid.
Eugenics was a movement of crackpots. Period. It was never "accepted"
by anyone save for a clutch of racists.
That's not any different that the old Eurgenics scientists demanding
that genentic defects be removed from the bloodines in order to serve
the common good.
Which has nothing whatsoever to do with Global Warming.
Different brand of science, same fuckwit meglomanic scientists out of
control. AGW in time will prove itself to be the biggest own goal for
science since Eurgenics. .
?????????????
OK, *****, but tell us this, in what way do we suffer if we find
ways to reduce our dependence on foreign oil,
Now, there's something new from the "never had an original idea in
your whole pathetic life", retard.
That's been talked about since Jimmy Carter.
All you tards do is talk and tax.
Can't answer the question?
Just did, you pathetic "never had an original idea in your whole
pathetic life" retard.
By the way, CAFE standards and other
methods have made our enegy usage considerably more efficient. We
could do one hell of a lot better if the grafters in the Republican
party hadn't opposed every measure to increase mileage standards and
develop alternative energy soruces.
Oh, it's the republicans...you pathetic "never had an original idea in
your whole pathetic life" retard?
preserve the earth, and
make energy cheaper (because of better efficiencies) and more
available.
Now, there's something new from the "never had an original idea in
your whole pathetic life", retard.
That's been talked about since Tesla, tard.
Science hit a brick wall or are they just waiting for government funds
to make their breakthroughs?
No brick wall, just assholes like you who are so stuck in their own
excrement they don't want to move or can't move.
From a pathetic "never had an original idea in your whole pathetic
life" retard
Tell us one thing that will harm us if we act as if Global
Warming is a real threat.
Taxing the air we breath will harm us non parasites, you left-turd
retard.
Non-productive left-turds will be unaffected.
Can't answer can you?
Just did, you pathetic "never had an original idea in your whole
pathetic life" retard.
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| User: "Talk-n-Dog" |
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| Title: Re: Is Global Warming the Global Jonestown? |
31 Jan 2008 11:13:01 AM |
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Wexford wrote:
On Jan 30, 8:48 am, Thomas <kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 30, 1:08 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:25:36 -0800 in
490ceb2a-c91e-43fb-bbe0-bfc816569...@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, Thomas
<kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 29, 11:57 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Global warming is science.
So was eugenics.
Oh my, argument by absurd smears, that's persuasive.
????????????????
Eugenics was a real scientific movement completely accepted by the
entire scientific world in its day. It was the "concensus" at the
time, and lo and behold there is a movement within AGW called the
Optimum Population Trust composed of scientists who are demanding that
humans be prevented from breeding accroding to their potential carbon
footprint. The comparision with eugenics is 100% valid.
Eugenics was a movement of crackpots. Period. It was never "accepted"
by anyone save for a clutch of racists.
That's not any different that the old Eurgenics scientists demanding
that genentic defects be removed from the bloodines in order to serve
the common good.
Which has nothing whatsoever to do with Global Warming.
Different brand of science, same fuckwit meglomanic scientists out of
control. AGW in time will prove itself to be the biggest own goal for
science since Eurgenics. .
OK, *****, but tell us this, in what way do we suffer if we find
ways to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, preserve the earth, and
make energy cheaper (because of better efficiencies) and more
available. Tell us one thing that will harm us if we act as if Global
Warming is a real threat.
Tghe only maniacs I see are the fuckwits who oppose the evidence for
Global Warming because (1) Al Gore is involved, (2) It's a "Liberal"
thing, and (3) I have a right to despoil the earth if I want to.
(1)If Al Gore is involved it's likely a lie, as he and Bill Clinton are
closer than you may think.
(2)Liberals can't understand freedom. It's a mental block.
(3)I am suppose to have the freedoms and rights to do what doesn't
interfere with anyone else's freedoms and rights. (While my fist and
your face can occupy the same space.... it would be wrong to allow that
to happen at the same time.)
--
http://DOGi-pedia.Talk-n-Dog.com
********* Koom-Bay-Ya *********
Elect Hillary and she can over see another Waco.
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31 Jan 2008 05:49:09 PM |
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On Jan 31, 12:13=A0pm, Talk-n-Dog <@http://dogi-pedia.talk-n-dog.com@>
wrote:
Wexford wrote:
On Jan 30, 8:48 am, Thomas <kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 30, 1:08 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:25:36 -0800 in
490ceb2a-c91e-43fb-bbe0-bfc816569...@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, Tho=
mas
<kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 29, 11:57 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Global warming is science.
So was eugenics.
Oh my, argument by absurd smears, that's persuasive.
????????????????
Eugenics was a real scientific movement completely accepted by the
entire scientific world in its day. It was the "concensus" at the
time, and lo and behold there is a movement within AGW called the
Optimum Population Trust composed of scientists who are demanding that
humans be prevented from breeding accroding to their potential carbon
footprint. The comparision with eugenics is 100% valid.
Eugenics was a movement of crackpots. Period. It was never "accepted"
by anyone save for a clutch of racists.
That's not any different that the old Eurgenics scientists demanding
that genentic defects be removed from the bloodines in order to serve
the common good.
Which has nothing whatsoever to do with Global Warming.
Different brand of science, same fuckwit meglomanic scientists out of
control. AGW in time will prove itself to be the biggest own goal for
science since Eurgenics. .
OK, *****, but tell us this, in what way do we suffer if we find
ways to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, preserve the earth, and
make energy cheaper (because of better efficiencies) and more
available. Tell us one thing that will harm us if we act as if Global
Warming is a real threat.
Tghe only maniacs I see are the fuckwits who oppose the evidence for
Global Warming because (1) Al Gore is involved, (2) It's a "Liberal"
thing, and (3) I have a right to despoil the earth if I want to.
(1)If Al Gore is involved it's likely a lie, as he and Bill Clinton are
closer than you may think.
Hell of trick to get a few thousand earth scientists to agree to the
lie.
(2)Liberals can't understand freedom. It's a mental block.
"Liberals???" It's the Neo-cons who want to tap phones, censor your
books, TV and Movies, and sniff your sheets, not Liberals. It's the
Neo-cons who want to run up the debt and put us in a position of
servicing the Chinese and Japanese with interest payments for the next
century.
(3)I am suppose to have the freedoms and rights to do what doesn't
interfere with anyone else's freedoms and rights. (While my fist and
your face can occupy the same space.... it would be wrong to allow that
to happen at the same time.)
Yeah, but if your car belches effluents that make me cough and shorten
my life, aren't you intruding on my freedom? If your laziness and
filth causes the deaths of native animals, ruins habitats and destroys
the natural enviornment, aren't you intruding my freedom to live and
enjoy the earth?
You still haven't answered the question. What harm do we derive from
lowering our dependence on foreign oil, by finding alternative methods
of producing energy, by making our machinery mroe efficient? What
harm? If the Global Warming people are right, then what't he
consequence of not taking any action?
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31 Jan 2008 05:52:48 PM |
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In article <d6fb0c4d-0bd9-403b-aeaa-f31ba50d166f@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Wexford <wryan77@gmail.com> wrote:
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You still haven't answered the question. What harm do we derive from
lowering our dependence on foreign oil, by finding alternative methods
of producing energy, by making our machinery mroe efficient? What
harm? If the Global Warming people are right, then what't he
consequence of not taking any action?
I know I'm not the 'you' to whom you are writing, but I answered this
question ("What harm does it do...?") in a previous post.
That answer may sound facetious, but it isn't.
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| User: "Bawana" |
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31 Jan 2008 06:17:27 PM |
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On Jan 31, 6:49 pm, Wexford <wrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 31, 12:13 pm, Talk-n-Dog <@http://dogi-pedia.talk-n-dog.com@>
wrote:
Wexford wrote:
On Jan 30, 8:48 am, Thomas <kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 30, 1:08 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:25:36 -0800 in
490ceb2a-c91e-43fb-bbe0-bfc816569...@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, Thomas
<kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 29, 11:57 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Global warming is science.
So was eugenics.
Oh my, argument by absurd smears, that's persuasive.
????????????????
Eugenics was a real scientific movement completely accepted by the
entire scientific world in its day. It was the "concensus" at the
time, and lo and behold there is a movement within AGW called the
Optimum Population Trust composed of scientists who are demanding that
humans be prevented from breeding accroding to their potential carbon
footprint. The comparision with eugenics is 100% valid.
Eugenics was a movement of crackpots. Period. It was never "accepted"
by anyone save for a clutch of racists.
That's not any different that the old Eurgenics scientists demanding
that genentic defects be removed from the bloodines in order to serve
the common good.
Which has nothing whatsoever to do with Global Warming.
Different brand of science, same fuckwit meglomanic scientists out of
control. AGW in time will prove itself to be the biggest own goal for
science since Eurgenics. .
OK, *****, but tell us this, in what way do we suffer if we find
ways to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, preserve the earth, and
make energy cheaper (because of better efficiencies) and more
available. Tell us one thing that will harm us if we act as if Global
Warming is a real threat.
Tghe only maniacs I see are the fuckwits who oppose the evidence for
Global Warming because (1) Al Gore is involved, (2) It's a "Liberal"
thing, and (3) I have a right to despoil the earth if I want to.
(1)If Al Gore is involved it's likely a lie, as he and Bill Clinton are
closer than you may think.
Hell of trick to get a few thousand earth scientists to agree to the
lie.
(2)Liberals can't understand freedom. It's a mental block.
"Liberals???" It's the Neo-cons who want to tap phones, censor your
books, TV and Movies, and sniff your sheets, not Liberals. It's the
Neo-cons who want to run up the debt and put us in a position of
servicing the Chinese and Japanese with interest payments for the next
century.
(3)I am suppose to have the freedoms and rights to do what doesn't
interfere with anyone else's freedoms and rights. (While my fist and
your face can occupy the same space.... it would be wrong to allow that
to happen at the same time.)
Yeah, but if your car belches effluents that make me cough and shorten
my life, aren't you intruding on my freedom?
Non sequitur, retard.
There are already emission standards.
If "a car belches effluents that make you cough and shorten your
life", tough *****, stay home.
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31 Jan 2008 07:14:11 PM |
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Bawana wrote:
On Jan 31, 6:49 pm, Wexford <wrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 31, 12:13 pm, Talk-n-Dog <@http://dogi-pedia.talk-n-dog.com@>
wrote:
Wexford wrote:
On Jan 30, 8:48 am, Thomas <kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 30, 1:08 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:25:36 -0800 in
490ceb2a-c91e-43fb-bbe0-bfc816569...@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, Thomas
<kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 29, 11:57 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Global warming is science.
So was eugenics.
Oh my, argument by absurd smears, that's persuasive.
????????????????
Eugenics was a real scientific movement completely accepted by the
entire scientific world in its day. It was the "concensus" at the
time, and lo and behold there is a movement within AGW called the
Optimum Population Trust composed of scientists who are demanding that
humans be prevented from breeding accroding to their potential carbon
footprint. The comparision with eugenics is 100% valid.
Eugenics was a movement of crackpots. Period. It was never "accepted"
by anyone save for a clutch of racists.
That's not any different that the old Eurgenics scientists demanding
that genentic defects be removed from the bloodines in order to serve
the common good.
Which has nothing whatsoever to do with Global Warming.
Different brand of science, same fuckwit meglomanic scientists out of
control. AGW in time will prove itself to be the biggest own goal for
science since Eurgenics. .
OK, *****, but tell us this, in what way do we suffer if we find
ways to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, preserve the earth, and
make energy cheaper (because of better efficiencies) and more
available. Tell us one thing that will harm us if we act as if Global
Warming is a real threat.
Tghe only maniacs I see are the fuckwits who oppose the evidence for
Global Warming because (1) Al Gore is involved, (2) It's a "Liberal"
thing, and (3) I have a right to despoil the earth if I want to.
(1)If Al Gore is involved it's likely a lie, as he and Bill Clinton are
closer than you may think.
Hell of trick to get a few thousand earth scientists to agree to the
lie.
(2)Liberals can't understand freedom. It's a mental block.
"Liberals???" It's the Neo-cons who want to tap phones, censor your
Clinton started that one with the simultaneous million line phone Tap
system. But then FDR did worse during WWII.... There needs to be a
sunset clause on Bush or Clinton when anyone votes to pass legislation
like that.
I'm for freedom so you won't catch me defending Congress or Bush or
Clinton on this. You still don't get it do you? Actually I would like
to see a Sunset Amendment put in the bill of rights for all laws. This
would cause the law makers to spend time voting to reinstate the needed
laws and no time to pas stupid new laws.
books, TV and Movies, and sniff your sheets, not Liberals. It's the
Neo-cons who want to run up the debt and put us in a position of
servicing the Chinese and Japanese with interest payments for the next
century.
(3)I am suppose to have the freedoms and rights to do what doesn't
interfere with anyone else's freedoms and rights. (While my fist and
your face can occupy the same space.... it would be wrong to allow that
to happen at the same time.)
Yeah, but if your car belches effluents that make me cough and shorten
my life, aren't you intruding on my freedom?
Send me your car title and I'll burn yours in the fire with mine.
Non sequitur, retard.
There are already emission standards.
If "a car belches effluents that make you cough and shorten your
life", tough *****, stay home.
--
http://DOGi-pedia.Talk-n-Dog.com
********* Koom-Bay-Ya *********
Liberals just want to control the environment like they want to control
everyones lives, through manipulation and taxes.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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31 Jan 2008 06:06:46 PM |
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:13:01 -0500 in
vknoj.69508$N67.67435@bignews5.bellsouth.net, Talk-n-Dog
<@http://dogi-pedia.talk-n-dog.com@> wrote:
(3)I am suppose to have the freedoms and rights to do what doesn't
interfere with anyone else's freedoms and rights.
Polluting the planet that isn't yours personally *IS* interfering with
others.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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“The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is
fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable.
What he wants above everything else is safety.”
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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31 Jan 2008 11:21:01 AM |
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Talk-n-Dog said the following on 1/31/2008 9:13 AM:
Wexford wrote:
On Jan 30, 8:48 am, Thomas <kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 30, 1:08 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:25:36 -0800 in
490ceb2a-c91e-43fb-bbe0-bfc816569...@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com,
Thomas
<kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 29, 11:57 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Global warming is science.
So was eugenics.
Oh my, argument by absurd smears, that's persuasive.
????????????????
Eugenics was a real scientific movement completely accepted by the
entire scientific world in its day. It was the "concensus" at the
time, and lo and behold there is a movement within AGW called the
Optimum Population Trust composed of scientists who are demanding that
humans be prevented from breeding accroding to their potential carbon
footprint. The comparision with eugenics is 100% valid.
Eugenics was a movement of crackpots. Period. It was never "accepted"
by anyone save for a clutch of racists.
That's not any different that the old Eurgenics scientists demanding
that genentic defects be removed from the bloodines in order to serve
the common good.
Which has nothing whatsoever to do with Global Warming.
Different brand of science, same fuckwit meglomanic scientists out of
control. AGW in time will prove itself to be the biggest own goal for
science since Eurgenics. .
OK, *****, but tell us this, in what way do we suffer if we find
ways to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, preserve the earth, and
make energy cheaper (because of better efficiencies) and more
available. Tell us one thing that will harm us if we act as if Global
Warming is a real threat.
Tghe only maniacs I see are the fuckwits who oppose the evidence for
Global Warming because (1) Al Gore is involved, (2) It's a "Liberal"
thing, and (3) I have a right to despoil the earth if I want to.
(1)If Al Gore is involved it's likely a lie, as he and Bill Clinton are
closer than you may think.
Clinton Derangement Syndrome?
(2)Liberals can't understand freedom. It's a mental block.
Err, no. Liberals understand freedom.
(3)I am suppose to have the freedoms and rights to do what doesn't
interfere with anyone else's freedoms and rights. (While my fist and
your face can occupy the same space.... it would be wrong to allow that
to happen at the same time.)
You liberal...
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* "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act *
* of the whole American people which declared that *
* their legislature should make no law respecting *
* an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the *
* free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of *
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| Title: Re: Is Global Warming the Global Jonestown? |
30 Jan 2008 08:19:06 AM |
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:48:34 -0800 in
5fe58c6d-abd0-42ab-ac99-a00db93c022d@v46g2000hsv.googlegroups.com, Thomas
<kfuzzbox@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 30, 1:08 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:25:36 -0800 in
490ceb2a-c91e-43fb-bbe0-bfc816569...@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com,
Thomas
<kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 29, 11:57 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Global warming is science.
So was eugenics.
Oh my, argument by absurd smears, that's persuasive.
Eugenics was a real scientific movement completely accepted by the
entire scientific world in its day.
I call *****.
It was the "concensus" at the time,
See above.
and lo and behold there is a movement within AGW called the Optimum
Population Trust composed of scientists who are demanding that humans be
prevented from breeding accroding to their potential carbon footprint.
The comparision with eugenics is 100% valid.
Oh yes, let's use extremists as examples of entire groups, movements, and
what not. This means US Christians are *all* Fred Phelps, all atheists
are Stalin, and all Arabs are bin Laden.
That's not any different that the old Eurgenics scientists demanding
that genentic defects be removed from the bloodines in order to serve
the common good.
Different brand of science, same fuckwit meglomanic scientists out of
control. AGW in time will prove itself to be the biggest own goal for
science since Eurgenics. .
"...same fuckwit meglomanic scientists out of control."
Well, for *****'s sake, don't use that computer crap nor get anywhere near
that Interweb thing, it's all by fuckwit megalomaniac out-of-control
scientists.
So are antibiotics!
It's only ignorant twits that can't separate out the science from the
hangers on.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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Let me get this straight: You believe that a cosmic Jewish
zombie who was his own father will let you live forever
if you pretend to eat his flesh, drink his blood, and
telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master,
so he can remove an evil force from your soul that he put
there a long time ago as punishment for all humanity because
a rib-woman made from a dust-man was convinced by a talking
snake to eat fruit from a magical tree.
- Unknown
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| User: "Tunderbar" |
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| Title: Re: Is Global Warming the Global Jonestown? |
30 Jan 2008 09:05:31 AM |
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On Jan 30, 8:19=A0am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:48:34 -0800 in
5fe58c6d-abd0-42ab-ac99-a00db93c0...@v46g2000hsv.googlegroups.com, Thomas
<kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 30, 1:08=A0pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:25:36 -0800 in
490ceb2a-c91e-43fb-bbe0-bfc816569...@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com,
Thomas
<kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 29, 11:57 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Global warming is science.
So was eugenics.
Oh my, argument by absurd smears, that's persuasive.
Eugenics was a real scientific movement completely accepted by the
entire scientific world in its day.
I call *****.
It was the "concensus" at the time,
See above.
and lo and behold there is a movement within AGW called the Optimum
Population Trust composed of scientists who are demanding that humans be=
prevented from breeding accroding to their potential carbon footprint.
The comparision with eugenics is 100% valid.
Oh yes, let's use extremists as examples of entire groups, movements, and
what not. This means US Christians are *all* Fred Phelps, all atheists
are Stalin, and all Arabs are bin Laden.
That's not any different that the old Eurgenics scientists demanding
that genentic defects be removed from the bloodines in order to serve
the common good.
Different brand of science, same fuckwit meglomanic scientists out of
control. AGW in time will prove itself to be the biggest own goal for
science since Eurgenics. .
"...same fuckwit meglomanic scientists out of control."
Well, for *****'s sake, don't use that computer crap nor get anywhere near
that Interweb thing, it's all by fuckwit megalomaniac out-of-control
scientists.
So are antibiotics!
It's only ignorant twits that can't separate out the science from the
hangers on.
--
Mark K. Bilbo =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
Let me get this straight: You believe that a cosmic Jewish
zombie who was his own father will let you live forever
if you pretend to eat his flesh, drink his blood, and
telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master,
so he can remove an evil force from your soul that he put
there a long time ago as punishment for all humanity because
a rib-woman made from a dust-man was convinced by a talking
snake to eat fruit from a magical tree.
- Unknown- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You realize that you are doing exactly what you claim he is.
"Oh yes, let's use extremists as examples of entire groups, movements,
and what not."
You are putting up extreme strawman arguments to counter his
reasonable points. You lose.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Is Global Warming the Global Jonestown? |
30 Jan 2008 06:09:04 PM |
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:05:31 -0800 in
e94be03e-24f9-465c-acf0-ffd8f05b4f0b@q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com,
Tunderbar <tdcomeau@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 30, 8:19 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:48:34 -0800 in
5fe58c6d-abd0-42ab-ac99-a00db93c0...@v46g2000hsv.googlegroups.com,
Thomas
<kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 30, 1:08 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:25:36 -0800 in
490ceb2a-c91e-43fb-bbe0-bfc816569...@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com,
Thomas
<kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 29, 11:57 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Global warming is science.
So was eugenics.
Oh my, argument by absurd smears, that's persuasive.
Eugenics was a real scientific movement completely accepted by the
entire scientific world in its day.
I call *****.
It was the "concensus" at the time,
See above.
and lo and behold there is a movement within AGW called the Optimum
Population Trust composed of scientists who are demanding that humans
be prevented from breeding accroding to their potential carbon
footprint. The comparision with eugenics is 100% valid.
Oh yes, let's use extremists as examples of entire groups, movements,
and what not. This means US Christians are *all* Fred Phelps, all
atheists are Stalin, and all Arabs are bin Laden.
That's not any different that the old Eurgenics scientists demanding
that genentic defects be removed from the bloodines in order to serve
the common good.
Different brand of science, same fuckwit meglomanic scientists out of
control. AGW in time will prove itself to be the biggest own goal for
science since Eurgenics. .
"...same fuckwit meglomanic scientists out of control."
Well, for *****'s sake, don't use that computer crap nor get anywhere
near that Interweb thing, it's all by fuckwit megalomaniac
out-of-control scientists.
So are antibiotics!
It's only ignorant twits that can't separate out the science from the
hangers on.
You realize that you are doing exactly what you claim he is.
Lessee, how do I put this?
DUH.
(Sheesh)
"Oh yes, let's use extremists as examples of entire groups, movements,
and what not."
You are putting up extreme strawman arguments to counter his reasonable
points. You lose.
Oh no! I *lost*! On the Interwebs! Oh, woe! I am bereft. I am
inconsolable!
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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“The alms-giver, in return for a trifling expenditure
on this earth, will be rewarded with an infinity of bliss
post-mortem. This purely selfish note is struck with
great clarity by Judaism, and only less clearly by
Christianity....religion has not really promoted charity,
but debased it.”
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Bill Ward" |
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| Title: Re: Is Global Warming the Global Jonestown? |
30 Jan 2008 04:32:23 PM |
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:19:06 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:48:34 -0800 in
5fe58c6d-abd0-42ab-ac99-a00db93c022d@v46g2000hsv.googlegroups.com, Thomas
<kfuzzbox@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 30, 1:08 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:25:36 -0800 in
490ceb2a-c91e-43fb-bbe0-bfc816569...@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com,
Thomas
<kfuzz...@tinet.ie> wrote:
On Jan 29, 11:57 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Global warming is science.
So was eugenics.
Oh my, argument by absurd smears, that's persuasive.
Eugenics was a real scientific movement completely accepted by the
entire scientific world in its day.
I call *****.
It was the "concensus" at the time,
See above.
and lo and behold there is a movement within AGW called the Optimum
Population Trust composed of scientists who are demanding that humans be
prevented from breeding accroding to their potential carbon footprint.
The comparision with eugenics is 100% valid.
Oh yes, let's use extremists as examples of entire groups, movements, and
what not. This means US Christians are *all* Fred Phelps, all atheists are
Stalin, and all Arabs are bin Laden.
That's not any different that the old Eurgenics scientists demanding
that genentic defects be removed from the bloodines in order to serve
the common good.
Different brand of science, same fuckwit meglomanic scientists out of
control. AGW in time will prove itself to be the biggest own goal for
science since Eugenics. .
"...same fuckwit meglomanic scientists out of control."
Well, for *****'s sake, don't use that computer crap nor get anywhere near
that Interweb thing, it's all by fuckwit megalomaniac out-of-control
scientists.
So are antibiotics!
It's only ignorant twits that can't separate out the science from the
hangers on.
That's truer than you realize. Here's a reference to the eugenics
movement. There were enough followers to lead to a lot of grief in the
30's and 40's.
http://www.assumption.edu/ahc/1920s/Eugenics/default.html
I see certain similarities to believers in the current AGW movement. The
"science" behind eugenics was also thought to be settled, but not for long.
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