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"Bill" |
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26 Dec 2004 12:06:44 PM |
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Is God all good, all powerful and omnipotent? |
If god is all good, all powerful, omnipotent and created us, why-
Is man put on this Earth for a brief period of time to then spend eternity
in Heaven or Hell?
Why is man put on this Earth subject to hundreds of debilitating and painful
diseases such as Pneumonia, Alzheimer's, Malaria, Tuberculosis, AIDS,
Arthritis, Heart Disease, Epilepsy, Diabetes etc.?
Why does this god provide some with over 100 years of life and others only
hours?
Why does god permit some to be pauper poor and suffer miserable lives while
others are wealthy and live pleasurable lives?
Is this god sadistic or just uncaring?
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Bill
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| User: "Dave Oldridge" |
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26 Dec 2004 09:36:48 PM |
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"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
news:U4Dzd.1167162$Gx4.1146723@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
If god is all good, all powerful, omnipotent and created us, why-
Is man put on this Earth for a brief period of time to then spend
eternity in Heaven or Hell?
Why is man put on this Earth subject to hundreds of debilitating and
painful diseases such as Pneumonia, Alzheimer's, Malaria,
Tuberculosis, AIDS, Arthritis, Heart Disease, Epilepsy, Diabetes etc.?
Why does this god provide some with over 100 years of life and others
only hours?
Why does god permit some to be pauper poor and suffer miserable lives
while others are wealthy and live pleasurable lives?
Is this god sadistic or just uncaring?
Chewing on one of them Knowledge of Good and Evil fruits again, eh?
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
A false witness is worse than no witness at all.
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| User: "GoDrex" |
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26 Dec 2004 08:17:13 PM |
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"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:U4Dzd.1167162$Gx4.1146723@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
If god is all good, all powerful, omnipotent and created us, why-
Is man put on this Earth for a brief period of time to then spend eternity
in Heaven or Hell?
Why is man put on this Earth subject to hundreds of debilitating and
painful
diseases such as Pneumonia, Alzheimer's, Malaria, Tuberculosis, AIDS,
Arthritis, Heart Disease, Epilepsy, Diabetes etc.?
Why does this god provide some with over 100 years of life and others only
hours?
Why does god permit some to be pauper poor and suffer miserable lives
while
others are wealthy and live pleasurable lives?
Is this god sadistic or just uncaring?
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
- Epicurus
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| User: "Dale" |
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26 Dec 2004 12:56:40 PM |
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"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:U4Dzd.1167162$Gx4.1146723@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
If god is all good, all powerful, omnipotent and created us, why-
Is man put on this Earth for a brief period of time to then spend eternity
in Heaven or Hell?
Why is man put on this Earth subject to hundreds of debilitating and
painful
diseases such as Pneumonia, Alzheimer's, Malaria, Tuberculosis, AIDS,
Arthritis, Heart Disease, Epilepsy, Diabetes etc.?
Why does this god provide some with over 100 years of life and others only
hours?
Why does god permit some to be pauper poor and suffer miserable lives
while
others are wealthy and live pleasurable lives?
Is this god sadistic or just uncaring?
God is a concept by which we measure our pain.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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26 Dec 2004 12:24:08 PM |
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"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:U4Dzd.1167162$Gx4.1146723@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
If god is all good, all powerful, omnipotent and created us, why-
Is man put on this Earth for a brief period of time to then spend eternity
in Heaven or Hell?
Why is man put on this Earth subject to hundreds of debilitating and
painful
diseases such as Pneumonia, Alzheimer's, Malaria, Tuberculosis, AIDS,
Arthritis, Heart Disease, Epilepsy, Diabetes etc.?
Why does this god provide some with over 100 years of life and others only
hours?
Why does god permit some to be pauper poor and suffer miserable lives
while
others are wealthy and live pleasurable lives?
Is this god sadistic or just uncaring?
Try non-existant.
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "stoney" |
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27 Dec 2004 03:30:33 PM |
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On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 13:24:08 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:U4Dzd.1167162$Gx4.1146723@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
If god is all good, all powerful, omnipotent and created us, why-
Is man put on this Earth for a brief period of time to then spend eternity
in Heaven or Hell?
Why is man put on this Earth subject to hundreds of debilitating and
painful
diseases such as Pneumonia, Alzheimer's, Malaria, Tuberculosis, AIDS,
Arthritis, Heart Disease, Epilepsy, Diabetes etc.?
Why does this god provide some with over 100 years of life and others only
hours?
Why does god permit some to be pauper poor and suffer miserable lives
while
others are wealthy and live pleasurable lives?
Is this god sadistic or just uncaring?
Try non-existant.
Bill knows. He's working within the parameters of the superstitious.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "duke" |
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26 Dec 2004 12:35:10 PM |
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On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 13:24:08 -0500, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:U4Dzd.1167162$Gx4.1146723@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
If god is all good, all powerful, omnipotent and created us, why-
Is man put on this Earth for a brief period of time to then spend eternity
in Heaven or Hell?
Why is man put on this Earth subject to hundreds of debilitating and
painful
diseases such as Pneumonia, Alzheimer's, Malaria, Tuberculosis, AIDS,
Arthritis, Heart Disease, Epilepsy, Diabetes etc.?
Why does this god provide some with over 100 years of life and others only
hours?
Why does god permit some to be pauper poor and suffer miserable lives
while
others are wealthy and live pleasurable lives?
Is this god sadistic or just uncaring?
Try non-existant.
Or so you're praying to your rock that is true.
duke
*****
Matthew 11
28"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened,
and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you
and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in
heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
30For my yoke is easy and my burden is light."
*****
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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26 Dec 2004 01:44:21 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:d21us0hfh6phbgcv4m2p07eh6i7i5sq7bl@4ax.com...
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 13:24:08 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:U4Dzd.1167162$Gx4.1146723@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
If god is all good, all powerful, omnipotent and created us, why-
Is man put on this Earth for a brief period of time to then spend
eternity
in Heaven or Hell?
Why is man put on this Earth subject to hundreds of debilitating and
painful
diseases such as Pneumonia, Alzheimer's, Malaria, Tuberculosis, AIDS,
Arthritis, Heart Disease, Epilepsy, Diabetes etc.?
Why does this god provide some with over 100 years of life and others
only
hours?
Why does god permit some to be pauper poor and suffer miserable lives
while
others are wealthy and live pleasurable lives?
Is this god sadistic or just uncaring?
Try non-existant.
Or so you're praying to your rock that is true.
You're banking pretty heavily that it's not. What a waste of time you've
spent if there is no god.
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| User: "old hoodoo" |
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26 Dec 2004 05:05:08 PM |
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It could be argued that religion is a waste of time.
Neil Kelsey wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:d21us0hfh6phbgcv4m2p07eh6i7i5sq7bl@4ax.com...
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 13:24:08 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:U4Dzd.1167162$Gx4.1146723@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
If god is all good, all powerful, omnipotent and created us, why-
Is man put on this Earth for a brief period of time to then spend
eternity
in Heaven or Hell?
Why is man put on this Earth subject to hundreds of debilitating and
painful
diseases such as Pneumonia, Alzheimer's, Malaria, Tuberculosis, AIDS,
Arthritis, Heart Disease, Epilepsy, Diabetes etc.?
Why does this god provide some with over 100 years of life and others
only
hours?
Why does god permit some to be pauper poor and suffer miserable lives
while
others are wealthy and live pleasurable lives?
Is this god sadistic or just uncaring?
Try non-existant.
Or so you're praying to your rock that is true.
You're banking pretty heavily that it's not. What a waste of time you've
spent if there is no god.
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| User: "duke" |
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26 Dec 2004 04:48:15 PM |
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On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 19:44:21 GMT, "Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@telus.net> wrote:
Or so you're praying to your rock that is true.
You're banking pretty heavily that it's not. What a waste of time you've
spent if there is no god.
Right, if there is no God, I spent my live is a most enjoyable way to only find out there
is no God. Now if there is God, well...................shame on you.
duke
*****
Matthew 11
28"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened,
and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you
and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in
heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
30For my yoke is easy and my burden is light."
*****
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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26 Dec 2004 06:29:27 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 19:44:21 GMT, "Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@telus.net>
wrote:
Or so you're praying to your rock that is true.
You're banking pretty heavily that it's not. What a waste of time you've
spent if there is no god.
Right, if there is no God, I spent my live is a most enjoyable way to only
find out there
is no God. Now if there is God, well...................shame on you.
Huh. If there is no god then you have participated in the polarization of
one false religion against another false religion, the deaths of thousands,
the oppression of millions, and have spent countless hours, days, and months
of your own life that were totally pointless. If there is no god...shame on
you. If there is a god, you'll have done these things anyway (maybe even the
false religion part), so lots of luck. If I get punished for disbelief, then
shame on god(s).
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| User: "stoney" |
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27 Dec 2004 03:32:03 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 00:29:27 GMT, "Neil Kelsey"
<neil_kelsey@telus.net> wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:vqfus05rmto453t8o9hp7v7cvl0d3ml0h4@4ax.com...
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 19:44:21 GMT, "Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@telus.net>
wrote:
Or so you're praying to your rock that is true.
You're banking pretty heavily that it's not. What a waste of time you've
spent if there is no god.
Right, if there is no God, I spent my live is a most enjoyable way to only
find out there
is no God. Now if there is God, well...................shame on you.
Huh. If there is no god then you have participated in the polarization of
one false religion against another false religion, the deaths of thousands,
the oppression of millions, and have spent countless hours, days, and months
of your own life that were totally pointless. If there is no god...shame on
you. If there is a god, you'll have done these things anyway (maybe even the
false religion part), so lots of luck. If I get punished for disbelief, then
shame on god(s).
Scripted disbelief. Like Pharoh, you have no option.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "duke" |
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27 Dec 2004 05:24:41 AM |
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On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 00:29:27 GMT, "Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@telus.net> wrote:
Right, if there is no God, I spent my live is a most enjoyable way to only
find out there
is no God. Now if there is God, well...................shame on you.
Huh. If there is no god then you have participated in the polarization of
one false religion against another false religion, the deaths of thousands,
the oppression of millions, and have spent countless hours, days, and months
of your own life that were totally pointless.
Yet I personally spent my time loving and helping others. I win. You break even.
If there is no god...shame on
you. If there is a god, you'll have done these things anyway (maybe even the
false religion part), so lots of luck. If I get punished for disbelief, then
shame on god(s).
I win. You lose.
duke
*****
Matthew 11
28"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened,
and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you
and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in
heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
30For my yoke is easy and my burden is light."
*****
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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27 Dec 2004 09:59:33 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 00:29:27 GMT, "Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@telus.net>
wrote:
Right, if there is no God, I spent my live is a most enjoyable way to
only
find out there
is no God. Now if there is God, well...................shame on you.
Huh. If there is no god then you have participated in the polarization of
one false religion against another false religion, the deaths of
thousands,
the oppression of millions, and have spent countless hours, days, and
months
of your own life that were totally pointless.
Yet I personally spent my time loving and helping others.
So have I.
I win. You break even.
If there is no god...shame on
you. If there is a god, you'll have done these things anyway (maybe even
the
false religion part), so lots of luck. If I get punished for disbelief,
then
shame on god(s).
I win. You lose.
Heaven also sounds like Hell to me. We both lose.
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| User: "XeNO" |
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26 Dec 2004 07:06:17 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 19:44:21 GMT, "Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@telus.net>
wrote:
Or so you're praying to your rock that is true.
You're banking pretty heavily that it's not. What a waste of time you've
spent if there is no god.
Right, if there is no God, I spent my live is a most enjoyable way to only
find out there
is no God. Now if there is God, well...................shame on you.
OOOOOkeeeeeey.....
Gotta jump in on this one duke...
If you're spending your time, preaching to people who are unreceptive to
your word, versus maybe, using your time to lead by example of the good life
you're supposed to live.
Firing bible quotes at atheists on the internet is really not going to work.
Its unproductive. You COULD donate that same time to a hospital, or just by
being nice to someone... read kids books to children... or just doing
something productive to society in general instead of just complaining about
non-believers. Not only would you be doing truly good things, you'd feel
good about life, not having to worry one way or another about other people's
religious beliefs. I'm an athiest and I am going to school for
pharmacology. Do I care at all that christians will benefit from all the
research I do that may provide cures for diseases and illnesses? No,
because I care about humanity, not god(s). I'm not doing it for financial
gain, because if I wanted to do that I'd just go work for a drug company and
help them cherry-pick data to sell more drugs. I'm going to pursue an
academic job and live a middle-class life. Honestly, I could care less if
there is a god or not, I realize I'm human and will only have 5 senses and a
brain to tie them all together. I intend on living my life peacefully and
by doing good where I can, regardless of what religious affiliation someone
may be, and most importantly--by not preaching superiority. .
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"For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law
of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret
that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected
with this. "--Albert Einstein
XeNO
Order of the 8th dIgIt
aa# 1901
In order to email me privately, you must remove god from my email address,
and follow the links to get past my spam sheild.
duke
*****
Matthew 11
28"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened,
and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you
and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in
heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
30For my yoke is easy and my burden is light."
*****
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| User: "GoDrex" |
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26 Dec 2004 08:19:48 PM |
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"XeNO" <xeno6696@god.cox.net> wrote in message
news:IdJzd.3416$2_4.1755@okepread06...
Firing bible quotes at atheists on the internet is really not going to
work.
Its unproductive.
the only enjoyment he gets in the knowledge that ahteists will be burning in
hell It gives him much happiness to sit and imagine it.
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| User: "duke" |
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27 Dec 2004 05:28:02 AM |
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On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 19:06:17 -0600, "XeNO" <xeno6696@god.cox.net> wrote:
Right, if there is no God, I spent my live is a most enjoyable way to only
find out there
is no God. Now if there is God, well...................shame on you.
OOOOOkeeeeeey.....
Gotta jump in on this one duke...
That's why I post here.
If you're spending your time, preaching to people who are unreceptive to
your word, versus maybe, using your time to lead by example of the good life
you're supposed to live.
I'm trying to help you.
Firing bible quotes at atheists on the internet is really not going to work.
Its unproductive.
No, I may be succeeding in thousands of cases.
You COULD donate that same time to a hospital, or just by
being nice to someone... read kids books to children... or just doing
something productive to society in general instead of just complaining about
non-believers.
You don't know what I do.
Not only would you be doing truly good things, you'd feel
good about life, not having to worry one way or another about other people's
religious beliefs.
I do now.
I'm an athiest and I am going to school for
pharmacology. Do I care at all that christians will benefit from all the
research I do that may provide cures for diseases and illnesses? No,
because I care about humanity, not god(s).
Care about humanity, you're doing exactly what God calls you to.
I'm not doing it for financial
gain, because if I wanted to do that I'd just go work for a drug company and
help them cherry-pick data to sell more drugs. I'm going to pursue an
academic job and live a middle-class life. Honestly, I could care less if
there is a god or not, I realize I'm human and will only have 5 senses and a
brain to tie them all together. I intend on living my life peacefully and
by doing good where I can, regardless of what religious affiliation someone
may be, and most importantly--by not preaching superiority. .
Sounds like you're going to change and join me being a Christian.
duke
*****
Matthew 11
28"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened,
and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you
and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in
heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
30For my yoke is easy and my burden is light."
*****
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| User: "wcb" |
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27 Dec 2004 10:26:57 AM |
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duke wrote:
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 19:06:17 -0600, "XeNO" <xeno6696@god.cox.net> wrote:
Right, if there is no God, I spent my live is a most enjoyable way to
only find out there
is no God. Now if there is God, well...................shame on you.
OOOOOkeeeeeey.....
Gotta jump in on this one duke...
That's why I post here.
If you're spending your time, preaching to people who are unreceptive to
your word, versus maybe, using your time to lead by example of the good
life you're supposed to live.
I'm trying to help you.
All you are doing is providing an easy target.
Somebody to use as a platform to post bible contradictions
and other facts.
Firing bible quotes at atheists on the internet is really not going to
work. Its unproductive.
No, I may be succeeding in thousands of cases.
Sonny, maybe dozens at best bother with your jive.
And with dozens behind you to correct your errors, all
you are doing is making a good excuse to again, attack
bible nonsense.
--
Dance, monkeys, dance!
Cheerful Charlie
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26 Dec 2004 12:42:35 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 13:24:08 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:U4Dzd.1167162$Gx4.1146723@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
If god is all good, all powerful, omnipotent and created us, why-
Is man put on this Earth for a brief period of time to then spend
eternity in Heaven or Hell?
Why is man put on this Earth subject to hundreds of debilitating and
painful
diseases such as Pneumonia, Alzheimer's, Malaria, Tuberculosis, AIDS,
Arthritis, Heart Disease, Epilepsy, Diabetes etc.?
Why does this god provide some with over 100 years of life and others
only hours?
Why does god permit some to be pauper poor and suffer miserable lives
while
others are wealthy and live pleasurable lives?
Is this god sadistic or just uncaring?
Try non-existant.
Or so you're praying to your rock that is true.
Nope. Not praying to anything.
--
Kevin Anthoney
kanthoney[a]dsl.pipex.com
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| User: "duke" |
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26 Dec 2004 04:46:43 PM |
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On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 18:42:35 +0000, Kevin Anthoney <kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> wrote:
duke wrote:
Nope. Not praying to anything.
Then you have no problem when you stand before God to answer for what you did in the
flesh. And you WILL STAND before him one moment after you die.
duke
*****
Matthew 11
28"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened,
and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you
and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in
heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
30For my yoke is easy and my burden is light."
*****
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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27 Dec 2004 02:03:54 AM |
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On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 16:46:43 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
Then you have no problem when you stand before God to answer for what you did in the
flesh. And you WILL STAND before him one moment after you die.
Not according to the Bible.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "duke" |
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27 Dec 2004 05:22:01 AM |
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On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 08:03:54 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 16:46:43 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
Then you have no problem when you stand before God to answer for what you did in the
flesh. And you WILL STAND before him one moment after you die.
Not according to the Bible.
Yes, according to the bible.
duke
*****
Matthew 11
28"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened,
and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you
and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in
heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
30For my yoke is easy and my burden is light."
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| User: "stoney" |
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27 Dec 2004 03:31:05 PM |
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On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 16:46:43 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 18:42:35 +0000, Kevin Anthoney <kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> wrote:
duke wrote:
Nope. Not praying to anything.
Then you have no problem when you stand before God to answer for what you did in the
flesh. And you WILL STAND before him one moment after you die.
Oh ***** you drooling nutcase.
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Kevin Anthoney" |
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| Title: Re: Is God all good, all powerful and omnipotent? |
27 Dec 2004 03:58:35 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 18:42:35 +0000, Kevin Anthoney
<kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> wrote:
duke wrote:
Nope. Not praying to anything.
Then you have no problem when you stand before God to answer for what you
did in the
flesh. And you WILL STAND before him one moment after you die.
So you keep saying. That doesn't make it true.
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Kevin Anthoney
kanthoney[a]dsl.pipex.com
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| User: "Dore" |
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| Title: Re: Is God all good, all powerful and omnipotent? |
31 Dec 2004 10:38:42 PM |
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"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:U4Dzd.1167162$Gx4.1146723@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
If god is all good, all powerful, omnipotent and created us, why-
Is man put on this Earth for a brief period of time to then spend eternity
in Heaven or Hell?
Because of Lucifer's iniquity. Because Lucifer decided to rebel against God,
God created the earth to test the loyalty of His created souls and placed
them on the earth to be tested. Giving them free will and choice to choose
between good and evil, He provides His commands, demands and requirements
for a holy, good, obedient, secure, peaceful, loving and pleasant life, but
those who CHOOSE evil, which are many, deny the righteous from that peaceful
and wonderful existence. Thus God has provided warnings of consequences for
choosing sin and evil.
cont
Why is man put on this Earth subject to hundreds of debilitating and
painful
diseases such as Pneumonia, Alzheimer's, Malaria, Tuberculosis, AIDS,
Arthritis, Heart Disease, Epilepsy, Diabetes etc.?
ALL infirmities and evil is caused by man's CHOOSING evil and sin.
cont
Why does this god provide some with over 100 years of life and others only
hours?
For every life there is a purpose and an affect on other's lives. Some are
gracefully removed from the earth and it's evils, because their lives have
fulfilled their purpose for which God had planned. Some are given extra time
to see the error of their ways and repent and others are given the maximum
amount of time because they NEVER choose good, repentance and righteousness,
and that is God's grace for them, otherwise, they are hopelessly condemned
in hell. Some are given short times, fulfilling their purpose for that time
and generation, then are removed from the earth to be resurrected or
regenerated back on the earth for another time and generation, in a
different circumstance for a purpose. Remember everything has an affect on
the ripple of life, whether time spent numerously or shortly.
cont
Why does god permit some to be pauper poor and suffer miserable lives
while
others are wealthy and live pleasurable lives?
The wealthy are evil and will suffer eternal hellfire and their only
pleasures are in the enjoyment of their wealth, which brings heartache and
misery in it's own right, for they never KNOW true love, true friendship,
true security, peace or contentment, whereas the poor, as they suffer on the
earth, are given special gifts of love, grace, mercy, compassion, kindness,
and inner peace, and some are given spiritual gifts and treasures that most
are unaware of existing. Since the love of money is the root of ALL EVIL,
then the wealthy ONLY KNOW evil, and being evil, put on a false face, are
liars, pretenders and gloaters of their wealth, but are miserable, wretched,
full of darkness, hatred and never know peace and contentment. But the
paupers, even in their poverty, find love, moments of joys and pleasures
that the wealthy can never know.
cont
Is this god sadistic or just uncaring?
Your problem is that you don't appreciate what you have and what God has
given you.
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Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:U4Dzd.1167162$Gx4.1146723@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
If god is all good, all powerful, omnipotent and created us, why-
Is man put on this Earth for a brief period of time to then spend eternity
in Heaven or Hell?
Why is man put on this Earth subject to hundreds of debilitating and
painful
diseases such as Pneumonia, Alzheimer's, Malaria, Tuberculosis, AIDS,
Arthritis, Heart Disease, Epilepsy, Diabetes etc.?
Why does this god provide some with over 100 years of life and others only
hours?
Why does god permit some to be pauper poor and suffer miserable lives
while
others are wealthy and live pleasurable lives?
Is this god sadistic or just uncaring?
--
Bill
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| User: "sAnToLiNa" |
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| Title: Re: Is God all good, all powerful and omnipotent? |
31 Dec 2004 10:45:51 PM |
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Dore <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:mPpBd.18584$fe5.15371@trndny06...
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:U4Dzd.1167162$Gx4.1146723@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
If god is all good, all powerful, omnipotent and created us, why-
Is man put on this Earth for a brief period of time to then spend
eternity
in Heaven or Hell?
Because of Lucifer's iniquity.
Why don't God and Lucifer take that ***** out into the parking lot and leave
the rest of us the ***** out of it.
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| User: "Dore" |
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03 Jan 2005 08:38:19 PM |
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"sAnToLiNa" <mystery@babylon.com> wrote in message
news:33mo92F41oj9lU1@individual.net...
Why don't God and Lucifer take that ***** out into the parking lot and
leave
the rest of us the ***** out of it.
You put yourself into it the minute you chose sin, which is taking Lucifer's
side and continuing in sin, which is being rebellious against God, serving
Lucifer.
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"sAnToLiNa" <mystery@babylon.com> wrote in message
news:33mo92F41oj9lU1@individual.net...
Dore <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:mPpBd.18584$fe5.15371@trndny06...
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:U4Dzd.1167162$Gx4.1146723@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
If god is all good, all powerful, omnipotent and created us, why-
Is man put on this Earth for a brief period of time to then spend
eternity
in Heaven or Hell?
Because of Lucifer's iniquity.
Why don't God and Lucifer take that ***** out into the parking lot and
leave
the rest of us the ***** out of it.
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| User: "sAnToLiNa" |
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| Title: Re: Is God all good, all powerful and omnipotent? |
04 Jan 2005 09:39:56 PM |
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Dore <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:vknCd.22897$EL5.3835@trndny09...
"sAnToLiNa" <mystery@babylon.com> wrote in message
news:33mo92F41oj9lU1@individual.net...
Why don't God and Lucifer take that ***** out into the parking lot and
leave
the rest of us the ***** out of it.
You put yourself into it the minute you chose sin,
I didn't choose sin, dimwit, I was born into it. Remember? "For all have
sinned and come short of the glory of God..." Why don't you learn your own
damn religion, then get back to us.
which is taking Lucifer's
side and continuing in sin, which is being rebellious against God, serving
Lucifer.
Lucifer can suck my hairy balls.
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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| Title: Re: Is God all good, all powerful and omnipotent? |
01 Jan 2005 10:59:25 AM |
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sAnToLiNa wrote:
Dore <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:mPpBd.18584$fe5.15371@trndny06...
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:U4Dzd.1167162$Gx4.1146723@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
If god is all good, all powerful, omnipotent and created us, why-
Is man put on this Earth for a brief period of time to then spend
eternity
in Heaven or Hell?
Because of Lucifer's iniquity.
Why don't God and Lucifer take that ***** out into the parking lot and leave
the rest of us the ***** out of it.
Because, if they did that, Bore would have no voices in her head,
telling her that she is the second coming, and to annoy the heathen
atheists.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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01 Jan 2005 10:57:41 AM |
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Dore wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:U4Dzd.1167162$Gx4.1146723@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
If god is all good, all powerful, omnipotent and created us, why-
Is man put on this Earth for a brief period of time to then spend eternity
in Heaven or Hell?
Because of Lucifer's iniquity. Because Lucifer decided to rebel against God,
God created the earth to test the loyalty of His created souls and placed
them on the earth to be tested. Giving them free will and choice to choose
between good and evil, He provides His commands, demands and requirements
for a holy, good, obedient, secure, peaceful, loving and pleasant life, but
those who CHOOSE evil, which are many, deny the righteous from that peaceful
and wonderful existence. Thus God has provided warnings of consequences for
choosing sin and evil.
However, the biggest lie going here Bore, is that some how, you are god,
or jebus, or some other deity with delusions of power and greatness.
So answer me, oh mighty Bore, why do you allow Lucifer to continue?
And don't try to feed us any of that free will crap. Salvation by
duress is not salvation, and not an exercise in free will. If you and
this god of yours, knew in advance what Lucifer was going to do, and did
nothing to change or stop it, then your god created the evil it condemns
us for.
And that makes your god, and you, right bastards, in any bodies book.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
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| User: "Dore" |
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| Title: Re: Is God all good, all powerful and omnipotent? |
03 Jan 2005 08:47:36 PM |
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"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <> wrote in message
news:re1ja2-i8k.ln1@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com...
However, the biggest lie going here Bore, is that some how, you are god,
or jebus, or some other deity with delusions of power and greatness.
So answer me, oh mighty Bore, why do you allow Lucifer to continue?
Just for the record, my name is pronounced with a hard "e", rhyming with
"glory"
Satan continues because he can do evil, which I cannot. He brings the
destruction, my spirit of anger in turn causes him to act in a destructive
manner, bringing the JUDGMENT upon the earth.
cont
And don't try to feed us any of that free will crap. Salvation by duress
is not salvation, and not an exercise in free will. If you and this god
of yours, knew in advance what Lucifer was going to do, and did nothing to
change or stop it, then your god created the evil it condemns us for.
Salvation is a wonderful GIFT, given gracefully for which you are
undeserving of, and yet it is offered to you still. YOU always have the
choice to sin or repent from sin, or not sin in the first place. YOU have
the choice to seek God and obey His will or ignore Him and continue in evil.
If you were created pure and had NO chance for iniquity, then you would be
pure, holy, righteous and Godly NOW, but because you are full of darkness
and still choosing sin and rebelling against God, His testing you to see if
you would easily submit to evil or fight against evil and DO good, is
justified, proving that you are full of iniquity as well as Lucifer was.
Sure God created evil, but YOU have the CHOICE NOT TO CHOOSE IT. YOU are
condemned for YOUR OWN CHOICE OF SIN and EVIL. God doesn't FORCE you to sin
or do evil, you choose that all on your own, so don't blame God for what
you, yourself, are responsible for.
cont
And that makes your god, and you, right bastards, in any bodies book.
YOU are the ***** for CHOOSING EVIL and SIN, thus receiving the justice
that you deserve.
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <> wrote in message
news:re1ja2-i8k.ln1@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com...
Dore wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:U4Dzd.1167162$Gx4.1146723@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
If god is all good, all powerful, omnipotent and created us, why-
Is man put on this Earth for a brief period of time to then spend
eternity
in Heaven or Hell?
Because of Lucifer's iniquity. Because Lucifer decided to rebel against
God, God created the earth to test the loyalty of His created souls and
placed them on the earth to be tested. Giving them free will and choice
to choose between good and evil, He provides His commands, demands and
requirements for a holy, good, obedient, secure, peaceful, loving and
pleasant life, but those who CHOOSE evil, which are many, deny the
righteous from that peaceful and wonderful existence. Thus God has
provided warnings of consequences for choosing sin and evil.
However, the biggest lie going here Bore, is that some how, you are god,
or jebus, or some other deity with delusions of power and greatness.
So answer me, oh mighty Bore, why do you allow Lucifer to continue?
And don't try to feed us any of that free will crap. Salvation by duress
is not salvation, and not an exercise in free will. If you and this god
of yours, knew in advance what Lucifer was going to do, and did nothing to
change or stop it, then your god created the evil it condemns us for.
And that makes your god, and you, right bastards, in any bodies book.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
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