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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: ""
Date: 05 Apr 2007 09:10:54 PM
Object: is it OK to kill life that isn't "a person"?
On Apr 4, 12:15 am, "CafeWriter" <cafewri...@shawRemoveThis.ca> wrote
in "Re: Florida Bishop Slammed for Inaction by Brother of Terry
Schiavo":

You forgot something -Terri wasn't there even through she was breathing and
her heart was beating just fine. It takes more than just a pair of working
lungs and a beating heart to make a person.

Is it OK to kill life that isn't "a person"?

Terri didn't have all that so
in other words, her family was trying to keep an empty shell alive for no
other real reasons except to think that she's alive. Yes, she's alive but
when it comes to her mind, no she's not alive.

///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Sub-persons/ sub-humans are expendable.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1149820884.102362.221630%40u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1139372980.005787.15450%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
applauding those who kill sub-person human embryos
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1153489662.014861.278290%40m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com
cash for sub-persons' organs
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1143252326.064753.206420%40i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
Put to use killed sub-persons' brains before their cremation.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1143212186.992727.233750%40z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
Is 'unter-personen' German for 'sub-persons'?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1141269441.235631.242980%40e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com
atheism-adherent Sartre: "everything is permissible if God does not
exist"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1148953550.334506.168420%40j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Hitler's actions make sense given his atheism and eugenic, social
Darwinist vision
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1134145559.645139.229550%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Mindreader Mitchell: Hitler was "anti-abortion"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1141921380.312364.144060%40i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
.

User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 13 Apr 2007 10:35:22 PM
<dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

Has anyone here seen video of an abortion involving:

cranial depression?

suctioning out the brain of a pre-born human life?

dismemberment of a pre-born human life?

Do you know how many women die from childbirth each year? Do you know
how many suffer permanent and disabling injuries? Do you know how
many religious people whould rather see a woman die in agony,
screaming until she could not scream any more?
Like most pro-liars you care more about your religion that you care
about people.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Attila"

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 14 Apr 2007 06:43:33 AM
On 14 Apr 2007 03:35:22 GMT,
(Ray Fischer) in
alt.abortion with message-id
<46204bfa$0$14112$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> wrote:

<dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

Has anyone here seen video of an abortion involving:

cranial depression?

suctioning out the brain of a pre-born human life?

dismemberment of a pre-born human life?


Do you know how many women die from childbirth each year? Do you know
how many suffer permanent and disabling injuries? Do you know how
many religious people whould rather see a woman die in agony,
screaming until she could not scream any more?

Like most pro-liars you care more about your religion that you care
about people.

They are much more concerned with souls of their victims than what
happens to them in their lives.
Yet none of them have ever proved a soul exists.
--
Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 15 Apr 2007 08:43:02 AM
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 08:43:33 -0400, wrote:

On 14 Apr 2007 03:35:22 GMT,

(Ray Fischer) in
alt.abortion with message-id
<46204bfa$0$14112$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> wrote:

<dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

Has anyone here seen video of an abortion involving:

cranial depression?

suctioning out the brain of a pre-born human life?

dismemberment of a pre-born human life?


Do you know how many women die from childbirth each year? Do you know
how many suffer permanent and disabling injuries? Do you know how many
religious people whould rather see a woman die in agony, screaming until
she could not scream any more?

Like most pro-liars you care more about your religion that you care about
people.


They are much more concerned with souls of their victims than what happens
to them in their lives.

And, hence, I don't see what they're problem is with abortion. Don't the
souls of those "pre-born babies" go straight to Jesus? If you let 'em out,
they might turn out to be atheist or, worse, some "not a real Christian"
and end up in hell. Why take the chance?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
.


User: "osprey"

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 13 Apr 2007 11:57:42 PM
On Apr 13, 11:35 pm,
(Ray Fischer) wrote:

<dfo...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

Has anyone here seen video of an abortion involving:


cranial depression?


suctioning out the brain of a pre-born human life?


dismemberment of a pre-born human life?


Do you know how many women die from childbirth each year?

Do you?
Do you know

how many suffer permanent and disabling injuries?

Do you?
Do you know how

many religious people whould rather see a woman die in agony,
screaming until she could not scream any more?

Do you?


Like most pro-liars you care more about your religion that you care
about people.

Do you know how many teens die in car crashes a year?
Do you know how many teens are permenantly disfigured from car crashes
in a year?
Do you know how many atheist would rather see a teen die in agony,
screaming until she or he couldn't scream any more?
Like most pro-liars (meaning you), you care more about getting a teen
behind the wheel of a car, than you do about people.
.
User: "james g. keegan jr."

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 14 Apr 2007 08:22:03 AM
In article <1176526662.216647.35050@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Like most pro-liars (meaning you), you care more about getting a teen
behind the wheel of a car, than you do about people.

why would you post an obvious and unsupportable lie such as that? you
must know no one beleives anything you say, and comments like the one
you made here are part of the reason.
do you loose control like that with your prisoners, your kids, yoru
wife?
.
User: "CafeWriter"

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 14 Apr 2007 06:12:10 PM
"james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jgkeegan-AA4201.09220214042007@individual.net...

In article <1176526662.216647.35050@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Like most pro-liars (meaning you), you care more about getting a teen
behind the wheel of a car, than you do about people.


why would you post an obvious and unsupportable lie such as that? you
must know no one beleives anything you say, and comments like the one
you made here are part of the reason.

do you loose control like that with your prisoners, your kids, yoru
wife?

You're not making sense at all. Not everyone is married and have kids.
I'm certainly not married and not a mother. Here comes the happy, happy
permanently single woman with no burdens.
.


User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 15 Apr 2007 08:43:53 AM
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:57:42 -0700, osprey wrote:

On Apr 13, 11:35 pm,

(Ray Fischer) wrote:

<dfo...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

Has anyone here seen video of an abortion involving:


cranial depression?


suctioning out the brain of a pre-born human life?


dismemberment of a pre-born human life?


Do you know how many women die from childbirth each year?


Do you?

Do you know

how many suffer permanent and disabling injuries?


Do you?


Do you know how

many religious people whould rather see a woman die in agony, screaming
until she could not scream any more?


Do you?



Like most pro-liars you care more about your religion that you care
about people.


Do you know how many teens die in car crashes a year? Do you know how many
teens are permenantly disfigured from car crashes in a year?
Do you know how many atheist would rather see a teen die in agony,
screaming until she or he couldn't scream any more?

Like most pro-liars (meaning you), you care more about getting a teen
behind the wheel of a car, than you do about people.

Well, that made... no sense at all.
Enjoying your visit to Earth?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 15 Apr 2007 02:37:29 PM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.04.15.13.43.52.152104@com.mkbilbo...

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:57:42 -0700, osprey wrote:

On Apr 13, 11:35 pm,

(Ray Fischer) wrote:

<dfo...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

Has anyone here seen video of an abortion involving:


cranial depression?


suctioning out the brain of a pre-born human life?


dismemberment of a pre-born human life?


Do you know how many women die from childbirth each year?


Do you?

Do you know

how many suffer permanent and disabling injuries?


Do you?


Do you know how

many religious people whould rather see a woman die in agony, screaming
until she could not scream any more?


Do you?



Like most pro-liars you care more about your religion that you care
about people.


Do you know how many teens die in car crashes a year? Do you know how
many
teens are permenantly disfigured from car crashes in a year?
Do you know how many atheist would rather see a teen die in agony,
screaming until she or he couldn't scream any more?

Like most pro-liars (meaning you), you care more about getting a teen
behind the wheel of a car, than you do about people.


Well, that made... no sense at all.

It made the same amount of sense as Ray's rambling. Oh did you see he
couldn't support his claims?
.
User: "james g. keegan jr."

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 15 Apr 2007 03:37:18 PM
In article <CtSdnQgPLKud4r_bnZ2dnUVZ_vGinZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.04.15.13.43.52.152104@com.mkbilbo...

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:57:42 -0700, osprey wrote:

On Apr 13, 11:35 pm,

(Ray Fischer) wrote:

<dfo...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

Has anyone here seen video of an abortion involving:


cranial depression?


suctioning out the brain of a pre-born human life?


dismemberment of a pre-born human life?


Do you know how many women die from childbirth each year?


Do you?

Do you know

how many suffer permanent and disabling injuries?


Do you?


Do you know how

many religious people whould rather see a woman die in agony, screaming
until she could not scream any more?


Do you?



Like most pro-liars you care more about your religion that you care
about people.


Do you know how many teens die in car crashes a year? Do you know how
many
teens are permenantly disfigured from car crashes in a year?
Do you know how many atheist would rather see a teen die in agony,
screaming until she or he couldn't scream any more?

Like most pro-liars (meaning you), you care more about getting a teen
behind the wheel of a car, than you do about people.


Well, that made... no sense at all.


It made the same amount of sense as Ray's rambling. Oh did you see he
couldn't support his claims?

point to the unsupported claim.
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 16 Apr 2007 12:02:46 AM
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 16:37:29 -0400, Osprey wrote:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.04.15.13.43.52.152104@com.mkbilbo...

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:57:42 -0700, osprey wrote:

On Apr 13, 11:35 pm,

(Ray Fischer) wrote:

<dfo...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

Has anyone here seen video of an abortion involving:


cranial depression?


suctioning out the brain of a pre-born human life?


dismemberment of a pre-born human life?


Do you know how many women die from childbirth each year?


Do you?

Do you know

how many suffer permanent and disabling injuries?


Do you?


Do you know how

many religious people whould rather see a woman die in agony,
screaming until she could not scream any more?


Do you?



Like most pro-liars you care more about your religion that you care
about people.


Do you know how many teens die in car crashes a year? Do you know how
many
teens are permenantly disfigured from car crashes in a year? Do you
know how many atheist would rather see a teen die in agony, screaming
until she or he couldn't scream any more?

Like most pro-liars (meaning you), you care more about getting a teen
behind the wheel of a car, than you do about people.


Well, that made... no sense at all.


It made the same amount of sense as Ray's rambling. Oh did you see he
couldn't support his claims?

That's nice.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
.

User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 15 Apr 2007 03:37:27 PM
Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.04.15.13.43.52.152104@com.mkbilbo...

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:57:42 -0700, osprey wrote:

On Apr 13, 11:35 pm,

(Ray Fischer) wrote:

<dfo...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

Has anyone here seen video of an abortion involving:


cranial depression?


suctioning out the brain of a pre-born human life?


dismemberment of a pre-born human life?


Do you know how many women die from childbirth each year?


Do you?

Do you know

how many suffer permanent and disabling injuries?


Do you?


Do you know how

many religious people whould rather see a woman die in agony, screaming
until she could not scream any more?


Do you?



Like most pro-liars you care more about your religion that you care
about people.


Do you know how many teens die in car crashes a year? Do you know how
many
teens are permenantly disfigured from car crashes in a year?
Do you know how many atheist would rather see a teen die in agony,
screaming until she or he couldn't scream any more?

Like most pro-liars (meaning you), you care more about getting a teen
behind the wheel of a car, than you do about people.


Well, that made... no sense at all.


It made the same amount of sense as Ray's rambling.

How many immoral creeps do you see forcing teens to drive, *****?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 15 Apr 2007 06:39:35 PM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:46228d07$0$14084$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.04.15.13.43.52.152104@com.mkbilbo...

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:57:42 -0700, osprey wrote:

On Apr 13, 11:35 pm,

(Ray Fischer) wrote:

<dfo...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

Has anyone here seen video of an abortion involving:


cranial depression?


suctioning out the brain of a pre-born human life?


dismemberment of a pre-born human life?


Do you know how many women die from childbirth each year?


Do you?

Do you know

how many suffer permanent and disabling injuries?


Do you?


Do you know how

many religious people whould rather see a woman die in agony,
screaming
until she could not scream any more?


Do you?



Like most pro-liars you care more about your religion that you care
about people.


Do you know how many teens die in car crashes a year? Do you know how
many
teens are permenantly disfigured from car crashes in a year?
Do you know how many atheist would rather see a teen die in agony,
screaming until she or he couldn't scream any more?

Like most pro-liars (meaning you), you care more about getting a teen
behind the wheel of a car, than you do about people.


Well, that made... no sense at all.


It made the same amount of sense as Ray's rambling.


How many immoral creeps do you see forcing teens to drive, *****?

How many "immoral" creeps do you see wanting to see women die in agony,
*****?


--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 15 Apr 2007 10:04:23 PM
Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:46228d07$0$14084$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.04.15.13.43.52.152104@com.mkbilbo...

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:57:42 -0700, osprey wrote:

On Apr 13, 11:35 pm,

(Ray Fischer) wrote:

<dfo...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

Has anyone here seen video of an abortion involving:


cranial depression?


suctioning out the brain of a pre-born human life?


dismemberment of a pre-born human life?


Do you know how many women die from childbirth each year?


Do you?

Do you know

how many suffer permanent and disabling injuries?


Do you?


Do you know how

many religious people whould rather see a woman die in agony,
screaming
until she could not scream any more?


Do you?



Like most pro-liars you care more about your religion that you care
about people.


Do you know how many teens die in car crashes a year? Do you know how
many
teens are permenantly disfigured from car crashes in a year?
Do you know how many atheist would rather see a teen die in agony,
screaming until she or he couldn't scream any more?

Like most pro-liars (meaning you), you care more about getting a teen
behind the wheel of a car, than you do about people.


Well, that made... no sense at all.


It made the same amount of sense as Ray's rambling.


How many immoral creeps do you see forcing teens to drive, *****?


How many "immoral" creeps do you see wanting to see women die in agony,
*****?

Thousands. Millions. All you anti-abortion anti-sex control freaks.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 15 Apr 2007 11:05:13 PM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:4622e7b7$0$14061$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:46228d07$0$14084$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.04.15.13.43.52.152104@com.mkbilbo...

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:57:42 -0700, osprey wrote:

On Apr 13, 11:35 pm,

(Ray Fischer) wrote:

<dfo...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

Has anyone here seen video of an abortion involving:


cranial depression?


suctioning out the brain of a pre-born human life?


dismemberment of a pre-born human life?


Do you know how many women die from childbirth each year?


Do you?

Do you know

how many suffer permanent and disabling injuries?


Do you?


Do you know how

many religious people whould rather see a woman die in agony,
screaming
until she could not scream any more?


Do you?



Like most pro-liars you care more about your religion that you care
about people.


Do you know how many teens die in car crashes a year? Do you know how
many
teens are permenantly disfigured from car crashes in a year?
Do you know how many atheist would rather see a teen die in agony,
screaming until she or he couldn't scream any more?

Like most pro-liars (meaning you), you care more about getting a teen
behind the wheel of a car, than you do about people.


Well, that made... no sense at all.


It made the same amount of sense as Ray's rambling.


How many immoral creeps do you see forcing teens to drive, *****?


How many "immoral" creeps do you see wanting to see women die in agony,
*****?


Thousands. Millions. All you anti-abortion anti-sex control freaks.

Start supporting your claims then. Don't make ***** up, *****.
.
User: "james g. keegan jr."

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 16 Apr 2007 08:24:15 AM
In article <JvGdnXNrI-tiaL_bnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:4622e7b7$0$14061$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

Thousands. Millions. All you anti-abortion anti-sex control freaks.


Start supporting your claims then. Don't make ***** up, *****.

why don't you show readers one claim you were called on to support,
any one, of the hundreds you have been called on to support.
tick, tick, tick.
run away again coward bobby
.

User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 16 Apr 2007 12:12:35 AM
Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:4622e7b7$0$14061$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:46228d07$0$14084$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.04.15.13.43.52.152104@com.mkbilbo...

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:57:42 -0700, osprey wrote:

On Apr 13, 11:35 pm,

(Ray Fischer) wrote:

<dfo...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

Has anyone here seen video of an abortion involving:


cranial depression?


suctioning out the brain of a pre-born human life?


dismemberment of a pre-born human life?


Do you know how many women die from childbirth each year?


Do you?

Do you know

how many suffer permanent and disabling injuries?


Do you?


Do you know how

many religious people whould rather see a woman die in agony,
screaming
until she could not scream any more?


Do you?



Like most pro-liars you care more about your religion that you care
about people.


Do you know how many teens die in car crashes a year? Do you know how
many
teens are permenantly disfigured from car crashes in a year?
Do you know how many atheist would rather see a teen die in agony,
screaming until she or he couldn't scream any more?

Like most pro-liars (meaning you), you care more about getting a teen
behind the wheel of a car, than you do about people.


Well, that made... no sense at all.


It made the same amount of sense as Ray's rambling.


How many immoral creeps do you see forcing teens to drive, *****?


How many "immoral" creeps do you see wanting to see women die in agony,
*****?


Thousands. Millions. All you anti-abortion anti-sex control freaks.


Start supporting your claims then.

Stop being stupid *****, *****.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 16 Apr 2007 12:17:06 AM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:462305c3$0$14081$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:4622e7b7$0$14061$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:46228d07$0$14084$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.04.15.13.43.52.152104@com.mkbilbo...

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:57:42 -0700, osprey wrote:

On Apr 13, 11:35 pm,

(Ray Fischer) wrote:

<dfo...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

Has anyone here seen video of an abortion involving:


cranial depression?


suctioning out the brain of a pre-born human life?


dismemberment of a pre-born human life?


Do you know how many women die from childbirth each year?


Do you?

Do you know

how many suffer permanent and disabling injuries?


Do you?


Do you know how

many religious people whould rather see a woman die in agony,
screaming
until she could not scream any more?


Do you?



Like most pro-liars you care more about your religion that you
care
about people.


Do you know how many teens die in car crashes a year? Do you know
how
many
teens are permenantly disfigured from car crashes in a year?
Do you know how many atheist would rather see a teen die in agony,
screaming until she or he couldn't scream any more?

Like most pro-liars (meaning you), you care more about getting a
teen
behind the wheel of a car, than you do about people.


Well, that made... no sense at all.


It made the same amount of sense as Ray's rambling.


How many immoral creeps do you see forcing teens to drive, *****?


How many "immoral" creeps do you see wanting to see women die in agony,
*****?


Thousands. Millions. All you anti-abortion anti-sex control freaks.


Start supporting your claims then.


Stop being stupid *****, *****.

Support your claims *****, you said thousands..then changed it to
millions.
Support it.
.
User: "james g. keegan jr."

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 16 Apr 2007 08:25:24 AM
In article <gvWdneNNK5REm77bnZ2dnUVZ_umlnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Stop being stupid *****, *****.


Support your claims *****

why don't you show readers one claim you were called on to support,
any one, of the hundreds you have been called on to support.
tick, tick, tick.
run away again coward bobby
.

User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 16 Apr 2007 01:37:40 AM
Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:57:42 -0700, osprey wrote:

On Apr 13, 11:35 pm,

(Ray Fischer) wrote:

<dfo...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

Has anyone here seen video of an abortion involving:


cranial depression?


suctioning out the brain of a pre-born human life?


dismemberment of a pre-born human life?


Do you know how many women die from childbirth each year?


Do you?

Do you know

how many suffer permanent and disabling injuries?


Do you?


Do you know how

many religious people whould rather see a woman die in agony,
screaming
until she could not scream any more?


Do you?



Like most pro-liars you care more about your religion that you
care
about people.


Do you know how many teens die in car crashes a year? Do you know
how
many
teens are permenantly disfigured from car crashes in a year?
Do you know how many atheist would rather see a teen die in agony,
screaming until she or he couldn't scream any more?

Like most pro-liars (meaning you), you care more about getting a
teen
behind the wheel of a car, than you do about people.


Well, that made... no sense at all.


It made the same amount of sense as Ray's rambling.


How many immoral creeps do you see forcing teens to drive, *****?


How many "immoral" creeps do you see wanting to see women die in agony,
*****?


Thousands. Millions. All you anti-abortion anti-sex control freaks.


Start supporting your claims then.


Stop being stupid *****, *****.


Support your claims *****,

www.google.com
Look it up, dumbshit, and while your there take a look at some of the
many lies that you've refused to support over the years.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 16 Apr 2007 08:37:11 AM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.04.15.13.43.52.152104@com.mkbilbo...

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:57:42 -0700, osprey wrote:

On Apr 13, 11:35 pm,

(Ray Fischer) wrote:

<dfo...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

Has anyone here seen video of an abortion involving:


cranial depression?


suctioning out the brain of a pre-born human life?


dismemberment of a pre-born human life?


Do you know how many women die from childbirth each year?


Do you?

Do you know

how many suffer permanent and disabling injuries?


Do you?


Do you know how

many religious people whould rather see a woman die in agony,
screaming
until she could not scream any more?


Do you?



Like most pro-liars you care more about your religion that you
care
about people.


Do you know how many teens die in car crashes a year? Do you know
how
many
teens are permenantly disfigured from car crashes in a year?
Do you know how many atheist would rather see a teen die in
agony,
screaming until she or he couldn't scream any more?

Like most pro-liars (meaning you), you care more about getting a
teen
behind the wheel of a car, than you do about people.


Well, that made... no sense at all.


It made the same amount of sense as Ray's rambling.


How many immoral creeps do you see forcing teens to drive, *****?


How many "immoral" creeps do you see wanting to see women die in
agony,
*****?


Thousands. Millions. All you anti-abortion anti-sex control freaks.


Start supporting your claims then.


Stop being stupid *****, *****.


Support your claims *****,


www.google.com

So you are irresponsible as well as uninformed, you have to try and throw
your delusions on readers and tell others to use google.


Look it up, dumbshit,

No *****, it's YOUR argument, YOU should be able to support it, but YOU
CAN'T.
.
User: "james g. keegan jr."

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 16 Apr 2007 09:02:24 AM
In article <INCdnUrZwNmT4b7bnZ2dnUVZ_q6vnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:462319b4$0$14080$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

Look it up, dumbshit,


No *****, it's YOUR argument, YOU should be able to support it, but YOU
CAN'T.

why don't you show readers one claim you were called on to support,
any one, of the hundreds you have been called on to support.
tick, tick, tick.
run away again coward bobby
.

User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 16 Apr 2007 08:36:29 PM
Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.04.15.13.43.52.152104@com.mkbilbo...

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:57:42 -0700, osprey wrote:

On Apr 13, 11:35 pm,

(Ray Fischer) wrote:

<dfo...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

Has anyone here seen video of an abortion involving:


cranial depression?


suctioning out the brain of a pre-born human life?


dismemberment of a pre-born human life?


Do you know how many women die from childbirth each year?


Do you?

Do you know

how many suffer permanent and disabling injuries?


Do you?


Do you know how

many religious people whould rather see a woman die in agony,
screaming
until she could not scream any more?


Do you?



Like most pro-liars you care more about your religion that you
care
about people.


Do you know how many teens die in car crashes a year? Do you know
how
many
teens are permenantly disfigured from car crashes in a year?
Do you know how many atheist would rather see a teen die in
agony,
screaming until she or he couldn't scream any more?

Like most pro-liars (meaning you), you care more about getting a
teen
behind the wheel of a car, than you do about people.


Well, that made... no sense at all.


It made the same amount of sense as Ray's rambling.


How many immoral creeps do you see forcing teens to drive, *****?


How many "immoral" creeps do you see wanting to see women die in
agony,
*****?


Thousands. Millions. All you anti-abortion anti-sex control freaks.


Start supporting your claims then.


Stop being stupid *****, *****.


Support your claims *****,


www.google.com


So you are irresponsible as well as uninformed,

So you're a liar as well as a criminal.

Look it up, dumbshit,


No *****, it's YOUR argument,

And you're still a turd of a human being.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 16 Apr 2007 08:39:31 PM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.04.15.13.43.52.152104@com.mkbilbo...

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:57:42 -0700, osprey wrote:

On Apr 13, 11:35 pm,

(Ray Fischer) wrote:

<dfo...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

Has anyone here seen video of an abortion involving:


cranial depression?


suctioning out the brain of a pre-born human life?


dismemberment of a pre-born human life?


Do you know how many women die from childbirth each year?


Do you?

Do you know

how many suffer permanent and disabling injuries?


Do you?


Do you know how

many religious people whould rather see a woman die in agony,
screaming
until she could not scream any more?


Do you?



Like most pro-liars you care more about your religion that you
care
about people.


Do you know how many teens die in car crashes a year? Do you
know
how
many
teens are permenantly disfigured from car crashes in a year?
Do you know how many atheist would rather see a teen die in
agony,
screaming until she or he couldn't scream any more?

Like most pro-liars (meaning you), you care more about getting
a
teen
behind the wheel of a car, than you do about people.


Well, that made... no sense at all.


It made the same amount of sense as Ray's rambling.


How many immoral creeps do you see forcing teens to drive,
*****?


How many "immoral" creeps do you see wanting to see women die in
agony,
*****?


Thousands. Millions. All you anti-abortion anti-sex control
freaks.


Start supporting your claims then.


Stop being stupid *****, *****.


Support your claims *****,


www.google.com


So you are irresponsible as well as uninformed,


So you're a liar as well as a criminal.

Oh, now it's a criminal? Once again, the readers see you make statements
you simply can't back up.
Hmm, that makes you a liar.


Look it up, dumbshit,


No *****, it's YOUR argument,


And you're still a turd of a human being.

And the readers now see you still running from supporting your claims.
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 17 Apr 2007 01:42:22 AM
Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.04.15.13.43.52.152104@com.mkbilbo...

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:57:42 -0700, osprey wrote:

On Apr 13, 11:35 pm,

(Ray Fischer) wrote:

<dfo...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

Has anyone here seen video of an abortion involving:


cranial depression?


suctioning out the brain of a pre-born human life?


dismemberment of a pre-born human life?


Do you know how many women die from childbirth each year?


Do you?

Do you know

how many suffer permanent and disabling injuries?


Do you?


Do you know how

many religious people whould rather see a woman die in agony,
screaming
until she could not scream any more?


Do you?



Like most pro-liars you care more about your religion that you
care
about people.


Do you know how many teens die in car crashes a year? Do you
know
how
many
teens are permenantly disfigured from car crashes in a year?
Do you know how many atheist would rather see a teen die in
agony,
screaming until she or he couldn't scream any more?

Like most pro-liars (meaning you), you care more about getting
a
teen
behind the wheel of a car, than you do about people.


Well, that made... no sense at all.


It made the same amount of sense as Ray's rambling.


How many immoral creeps do you see forcing teens to drive,
*****?


How many "immoral" creeps do you see wanting to see women die in
agony,
*****?


Thousands. Millions. All you anti-abortion anti-sex control
freaks.


Start supporting your claims then.


Stop being stupid *****, *****.


Support your claims *****,


www.google.com


So you are irresponsible as well as uninformed,


So you're a liar as well as a criminal.


Oh, now it's a criminal? Once again, the readers see you make statements

*****,m this started because you're so damn stupid that you tried to
compare teens being forced to drive with women being forced to suffer
and even die in childbirth.
And you, being a stupid *****, still haven't grasped the fact that
you're an idiot.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 17 Apr 2007 07:59:33 AM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.04.15.13.43.52.152104@com.mkbilbo...

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:57:42 -0700, osprey wrote:

On Apr 13, 11:35 pm,

(Ray Fischer) wrote:

<dfo...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

Has anyone here seen video of an abortion involving:


cranial depression?


suctioning out the brain of a pre-born human life?


dismemberment of a pre-born human life?


Do you know how many women die from childbirth each year?


Do you?

Do you know

how many suffer permanent and disabling injuries?


Do you?


Do you know how

many religious people whould rather see a woman die in
agony,
screaming
until she could not scream any more?


Do you?



Like most pro-liars you care more about your religion that
you
care
about people.


Do you know how many teens die in car crashes a year? Do you
know
how
many
teens are permenantly disfigured from car crashes in a year?
Do you know how many atheist would rather see a teen die in
agony,
screaming until she or he couldn't scream any more?

Like most pro-liars (meaning you), you care more about
getting
a
teen
behind the wheel of a car, than you do about people.


Well, that made... no sense at all.


It made the same amount of sense as Ray's rambling.


How many immoral creeps do you see forcing teens to drive,
*****?


How many "immoral" creeps do you see wanting to see women die in
agony,
*****?


Thousands. Millions. All you anti-abortion anti-sex control
freaks.


Start supporting your claims then.


Stop being stupid *****, *****.


Support your claims *****,


www.google.com


So you are irresponsible as well as uninformed,


So you're a liar as well as a criminal.


Oh, now it's a criminal? Once again, the readers see you make statements


*****,m this started because you're so damn stupid that you tried to
compare teens being forced to drive with women being forced to suffer
and even die in childbirth.

It's the same stupid analogy you tried to use *****.
Then you lied on top of it and claimed thousands...then changed your mind to
millions of people want to see women suffer.
You couldn't back it up.
Then another lie, when you called me a criminal.
Of course you can't back that up either.
Lie on top of lie on top of lie...that's you.
.














User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 14 Apr 2007 12:16:44 AM
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

On Apr 13, 11:35 pm,

(Ray Fischer) wrote:

<dfo...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

Has anyone here seen video of an abortion involving:


cranial depression?


suctioning out the brain of a pre-born human life?


dismemberment of a pre-born human life?


Do you know how many women die from childbirth each year?


Do you?

You've seen me post the numbers, *****.

Do you know

how many suffer permanent and disabling injuries?


Do you?

Yes, *****.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 14 Apr 2007 12:17:47 AM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:462063bc$0$14150$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

On Apr 13, 11:35 pm,

(Ray Fischer) wrote:

<dfo...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

Has anyone here seen video of an abortion involving:


cranial depression?


suctioning out the brain of a pre-born human life?


dismemberment of a pre-born human life?


Do you know how many women die from childbirth each year?


Do you?


You've seen me post the numbers, *****.

I've seen you lie when asked, *****.


Do you know

how many suffer permanent and disabling injuries?


Do you?


Yes, *****.

How many?
Post the numbers, *****
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 14 Apr 2007 01:59:36 AM
Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

<dfo...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

Has anyone here seen video of an abortion involving:


cranial depression?


suctioning out the brain of a pre-born human life?


dismemberment of a pre-born human life?


Do you know how many women die from childbirth each year?


Do you?


You've seen me post the numbers, *****.


I've seen you lie

*****, you're a habitual liar and nobody believes your crap. And
you're obviously too damn stupid to pay attention and too much of a
moron to find out for yourself.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 14 Apr 2007 10:46:16 AM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

<dfo...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

Has anyone here seen video of an abortion involving:


cranial depression?


suctioning out the brain of a pre-born human life?


dismemberment of a pre-born human life?


Do you know how many women die from childbirth each year?


Do you?


You've seen me post the numbers, *****.


I've seen you lie


*****, you're a habitual liar and nobody believes your crap.

*****, no one cares about your repeated *****.
Either you know how many women die from childbirth each year, or you don't.
Which is it?
.
User: "james g. keegan jr."

Title: Re: seen video of an abortion? 15 Apr 2007 05:35:15 PM
In article <rsGdnYMY087Sar3bnZ2dnUVZ_uqvnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:46207bd8$0$14118$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

*****, you're a habitual liar and nobody believes your crap.


Either you know how many women die from childbirth each year, or you don't.

you demonstrated that you do not as evidenced by your inability to
answer the question when asked.
.








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