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Object: Is Mike Huckabee Going to Rock & Roll Hell? A Letter to Bill Gothard from Justin Jeffre
Is Mike Huckabee Going to Rock & Roll Hell? A Letter to Bill Gothard
from Justin Jeffre
by deanofcincinnatti
December 31, 2007
Talk to Action
Bill Gothard PhD, Founder/President
The Institute in Basic Life Principles
Oak Brook, IL
Dear Dr. Gothard:
For the past couple years, my colleague, the Dean of Cincinnati, has
been writing articles about you and your various enterprises. Before then I'd
never even heard of you, your institute, your "character-building" seminars,
your unaccredited medical school, your unaccredited law school, your nursing
program, your Children's Institute, your bible-centered paramilitary boot
camp, your music school, your culinary arts program, your Institute of
Photographic Studies, your resort-style training center in Guadalajara, your
upholstery training program, your hair design program, etc. As you know, I'm
just scratching the surface - the list keeps just on going and according to
this 2006 In These Times cover story, The Cult of Character, business is
booming:
Gothard, the 74-year-old, unmarried man at the head of the Oak Brook,
Illinois-based Institute in Basic Life Principles (IBLP) - which brings in
an estimated profit of at least $63 million annually - has been in the
evangelism business since 1964.
But my letter today concerns matters far more serious than earthly
possessions and multi-million dollar bank accounts. Today I'm asking you to
save the eternal soul of the man you support to be the next President of the
United States - Mike Huckabee. Thanks again to recent articles by The Dean,
I learned that you and Governor Huckabee are longtime associates and that
you were photographed together at a recent "Huckabee for President" campaign
event at a Houston home. I also came across a December 13 Denver Post
article about Matthew Murray, the young Colorado church shooter, which
includes:
Murray also claims online that he went through Bill Gothard home
schooling, a fundamental Christian organization that has about 2,000
students enrolled nationally. Gothard's program bases a curriculum on the 54
verses from the Sermon on the Mount, and its strict teachings prohibit rock
& roll and television. Gothard, in an interview Wednesday, said he "didn't
recall"ever meeting the Murray family, but he was sure one of the parents
was probably trained in his program. Ultimately, Gothard blames rock music
for Murray's murderous rampage. "That is the most contributing factor,"
said Gothard, who is based in a small town south of Chicago. "It'd be
important to see the connection between his passion to rock music and how it
ultimately brought this on." Gothard said whenever he gets calls from
parents having trouble with their kids, he asks about what they listen to.
"In every case, (the kid) is listening to rock music," he said.
Here's why I'm writing you. Though it's been widely reported in the media,
it may have escaped your attention that Gov. Huckabee not only loves rock
music, he plays bass guitar in a rock band! I have located numerous
photographs of him engaging in this activity. I must warn you that these
images may disturb you, but you may click here to view them.
I also have a confession to make. Like Gov. Huckabee, I've engaged in
similar activities. For the past decade, I've been a member of 98 Degrees, a
group that performs the kind of music warned against as "unclean" and
"satanic" in an article you published, Ten Scriptural Reasons Why the "Rock
Beat" is Evil in Any Form. Taken from that essay, here's a list which might
be called "Bill Gothard's Ten Commandments of Rock":
I. THE "ROCK BEAT" DECEIVES YOUTH INTO VIOLATING THE FIFTH COMMANDMENT
II. THE "ROCK BEAT" VIOLATES GOD'S COMMAND TO "GIVE NO PLACE TO THE DEVIL"
III. THE "ROCK BEAT" MOCKS GOD'S COMMAND TO "LOVE NOT THE WORLD"
IV. THE "ROCK BEAT" DISREGARDS GOD'S COMMAND NOT TO OFFEND OTHER
CHRISTIANS
V. THE "ROCK BEAT" DEFIES GOD'S COMMAND TO JUDGE ALL THINGS AS GOOD OR
EVIL
VI. THE "ROCK BEAT" DISOBEYS GOD'S COMMAND TO AVOID "ALL APPEARANCE OF
EVIL"
VII. THE "ROCK BEAT" CONTRADICTS GOD'S COMMAND NOT TO BE BROUGHT UNDER ITS
POWER
VIII. THE "ROCK BEAT" OPPOSES GOD'S COMMAND NOT TO MIX LIGHT WITH DARKNESS
IX. THE "ROCK BEAT" IGNORES GOD'S COMMAND FOR ALL MINISTERS TO BE
QUALIFIED
X. THE "ROCK BEAT" VIOLATES GOD'S COMMAND TO PROTECT OUR BODIES AS GOD'S
TEMPLE
I thought our group was just having a great time making our fans happy with
fun music. If only we'd known how dangerous the "ROCK BEAT" is, we might
have considered musical styles like the CDs and cassettes you sell on your
website, such as The Music of the Children's Institute: Volume 1 & 2,
described as "Well-loved, character-teaching songs from the 1997-1998
Children's Institutes sung by the Carman Family."
Anyway, steady yourself, Dr. G, because I'm about to reveal some even more
shocking information about Gov. Huckabee. He recently told a New York Times
reporter he wants The Rolling Stones to play at his inaugural. Get thee
behind me, Mick!
Bill, do you want Their Satanic Majesties to desecrate President Huckabee's
inauguration? Do you want a Commander in Chief who willfully violates your
"Ten Commandments of Rock"? Do you want "The Star-Spangled Banner" performed
with the "ROCK BEAT"? I'm wondering if you stand behind your own words. I'm
sure you recognize this "Commitment to Reject the Deception of the 'Rock
Beat' in Any Form", a pledge you have asked others to sign:
"Almighty Father, based on the authority of your Word and the testimony of
others, I now purpose to remove from my life any music that contains a "ROCK
BEAT"; and to replace it with melodious music that glorifies You and edifies
others."
Signature _____________________________________________
Date _________________________________________________
I'm now calling on you to make a public request for your good friend Mike
Huckabee to sign it, too.
And there's not a moment to waste. As I write this, CBS News reports that
the Governor is encouraging the kind of blasphemy you said caused the
Colorado tragedy:
With about 150 supporters crowded around a podium set up on the tarmac of
Orlando Executive airport...Mike Huckabee strode out to the strains of
"Right Now" by Van Halen....
You seem to prefer quick and easy answers, such as your claim that most
mental illnesses, including schizophrenia, are simply a lack of personal
responsibility.
Okay, now let's see you take some personal responsibility.
For decades, you've been blaming rock music for society's problems. Now's
your chance to make an international public statement, courtesy of your good
friend, Rockin' Mike Huckabee. What do you have to say to this man who
consistently violates one of your most cherished "Basic Life Principles," a
man you want to be leader of the free world?
When are you going to condemn him like you condemned young Matthew Murray?
If that question's too tough for you, I can direct you to some
character-building seminars.
Sincerely,
Justin Jeffre
.

User: "johac"

Title: Re: Is Mike Huckabee Going to Rock & Roll Hell? A Letter to Bill Gothard from Justin Jeffre 07 Jan 2008 12:56:10 AM
In article <uKudnck1Bp8yBhzanZ2dnUVZ_t6onZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

Is Mike Huckabee Going to Rock & Roll Hell? A Letter to Bill Gothard
from Justin Jeffre


by deanofcincinnatti
December 31, 2007
Talk to Action



Bill Gothard PhD, Founder/President
The Institute in Basic Life Principles
Oak Brook, IL

Dear Dr. Gothard:

For the past couple years, my colleague, the Dean of Cincinnati, has
been writing articles about you and your various enterprises. Before then I'd
never even heard of you, your institute, your "character-building" seminars,
your unaccredited medical school, your unaccredited law school, your nursing
program, your Children's Institute, your bible-centered paramilitary boot
camp, your music school, your culinary arts program, your Institute of
Photographic Studies, your resort-style training center in Guadalajara, your
upholstery training program, your hair design program, etc. As you know, I'm
just scratching the surface - the list keeps just on going and according to
this 2006 In These Times cover story, The Cult of Character, business is
booming:


Gothard, the 74-year-old, unmarried man at the head of the Oak Brook,
Illinois-based Institute in Basic Life Principles (IBLP) - which brings in
an estimated profit of at least $63 million annually - has been in the
evangelism business since 1964.

$63 million? The superstition business must be doing quite well.


<snips>

I also have a confession to make. Like Gov. Huckabee, I've engaged in
similar activities. For the past decade, I've been a member of 98 Degrees, a
group that performs the kind of music warned against as "unclean" and
"satanic" in an article you published, Ten Scriptural Reasons Why the "Rock
Beat" is Evil in Any Form. Taken from that essay, here's a list which might
be called "Bill Gothard's Ten Commandments of Rock":

I. THE "ROCK BEAT" DECEIVES YOUTH INTO VIOLATING THE FIFTH COMMANDMENT

II. THE "ROCK BEAT" VIOLATES GOD'S COMMAND TO "GIVE NO PLACE TO THE DEVIL"

III. THE "ROCK BEAT" MOCKS GOD'S COMMAND TO "LOVE NOT THE WORLD"

IV. THE "ROCK BEAT" DISREGARDS GOD'S COMMAND NOT TO OFFEND OTHER
CHRISTIANS

V. THE "ROCK BEAT" DEFIES GOD'S COMMAND TO JUDGE ALL THINGS AS GOOD OR
EVIL

VI. THE "ROCK BEAT" DISOBEYS GOD'S COMMAND TO AVOID "ALL APPEARANCE OF
EVIL"

VII. THE "ROCK BEAT" CONTRADICTS GOD'S COMMAND NOT TO BE BROUGHT UNDER ITS
POWER

VIII. THE "ROCK BEAT" OPPOSES GOD'S COMMAND NOT TO MIX LIGHT WITH DARKNESS

IX. THE "ROCK BEAT" IGNORES GOD'S COMMAND FOR ALL MINISTERS TO BE
QUALIFIED

X. THE "ROCK BEAT" VIOLATES GOD'S COMMAND TO PROTECT OUR BODIES AS GOD'S
TEMPLE

How ridiculous! What about all these Christian rock groups?



Anyway, steady yourself, Dr. G, because I'm about to reveal some even more
shocking information about Gov. Huckabee. He recently told a New York Times
reporter he wants The Rolling Stones to play at his inaugural. Get thee
behind me, Mick!

I hope they play "Sympathy for the Devil".


--
John #1782
.
User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: Is Mike Huckabee Going to Rock & Roll Hell? A Letter to Bill Gothard from Justin Jeffre 07 Jan 2008 01:55:58 AM
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-48C626.22560906012008@news.giganews.com...

In article <uKudnck1Bp8yBhzanZ2dnUVZ_t6onZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

Is Mike Huckabee Going to Rock & Roll Hell? A Letter to Bill
Gothard
from Justin Jeffre


by deanofcincinnatti
December 31, 2007
Talk to Action



Bill Gothard PhD, Founder/President
The Institute in Basic Life Principles
Oak Brook, IL

Dear Dr. Gothard:

For the past couple years, my colleague, the Dean of Cincinnati,
has
been writing articles about you and your various enterprises. Before then
I'd
never even heard of you, your institute, your "character-building"
seminars,
your unaccredited medical school, your unaccredited law school, your
nursing
program, your Children's Institute, your bible-centered paramilitary boot
camp, your music school, your culinary arts program, your Institute of
Photographic Studies, your resort-style training center in Guadalajara,
your
upholstery training program, your hair design program, etc. As you know,
I'm
just scratching the surface - the list keeps just on going and according
to
this 2006 In These Times cover story, The Cult of Character, business is
booming:


Gothard, the 74-year-old, unmarried man at the head of the Oak Brook,
Illinois-based Institute in Basic Life Principles (IBLP) - which brings
in
an estimated profit of at least $63 million annually - has been in the
evangelism business since 1964.


$63 million? The superstition business must be doing quite well.



<snips>

I also have a confession to make. Like Gov. Huckabee, I've engaged in
similar activities. For the past decade, I've been a member of 98
Degrees, a
group that performs the kind of music warned against as "unclean" and
"satanic" in an article you published, Ten Scriptural Reasons Why the
"Rock
Beat" is Evil in Any Form. Taken from that essay, here's a list which
might
be called "Bill Gothard's Ten Commandments of Rock":

I. THE "ROCK BEAT" DECEIVES YOUTH INTO VIOLATING THE FIFTH COMMANDMENT

II. THE "ROCK BEAT" VIOLATES GOD'S COMMAND TO "GIVE NO PLACE TO THE
DEVIL"

III. THE "ROCK BEAT" MOCKS GOD'S COMMAND TO "LOVE NOT THE WORLD"

IV. THE "ROCK BEAT" DISREGARDS GOD'S COMMAND NOT TO OFFEND OTHER
CHRISTIANS

V. THE "ROCK BEAT" DEFIES GOD'S COMMAND TO JUDGE ALL THINGS AS GOOD OR
EVIL

VI. THE "ROCK BEAT" DISOBEYS GOD'S COMMAND TO AVOID "ALL APPEARANCE OF
EVIL"

VII. THE "ROCK BEAT" CONTRADICTS GOD'S COMMAND NOT TO BE BROUGHT UNDER
ITS
POWER

VIII. THE "ROCK BEAT" OPPOSES GOD'S COMMAND NOT TO MIX LIGHT WITH
DARKNESS

IX. THE "ROCK BEAT" IGNORES GOD'S COMMAND FOR ALL MINISTERS TO BE
QUALIFIED

X. THE "ROCK BEAT" VIOLATES GOD'S COMMAND TO PROTECT OUR BODIES AS
GOD'S
TEMPLE


How ridiculous! What about all these Christian rock groups?




Anyway, steady yourself, Dr. G, because I'm about to reveal some even
more
shocking information about Gov. Huckabee. He recently told a New York
Times
reporter he wants The Rolling Stones to play at his inaugural. Get thee
behind me, Mick!


I hope they play "Sympathy for the Devil".

I used that as the title to my story about Emperor Palpatine's
horrific childhood.
--
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Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
When fascism comes to America, it will be
wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross -
Sinclair Lewis


--
John #1782

.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Is Mike Huckabee Going to Rock & Roll Hell? A Letter to Bill Gothard from Justin Jeffre 08 Jan 2008 12:56:50 AM
In article <-Zednbl3BMeVRhzanZ2dnUVZ_tCrnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-48C626.22560906012008@news.giganews.com...

In article <uKudnck1Bp8yBhzanZ2dnUVZ_t6onZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

Is Mike Huckabee Going to Rock & Roll Hell? A Letter to Bill
Gothard
from Justin Jeffre


by deanofcincinnatti
December 31, 2007
Talk to Action



Bill Gothard PhD, Founder/President
The Institute in Basic Life Principles
Oak Brook, IL

Dear Dr. Gothard:

For the past couple years, my colleague, the Dean of Cincinnati,
has
been writing articles about you and your various enterprises. Before then
I'd
never even heard of you, your institute, your "character-building"
seminars,
your unaccredited medical school, your unaccredited law school, your
nursing
program, your Children's Institute, your bible-centered paramilitary boot
camp, your music school, your culinary arts program, your Institute of
Photographic Studies, your resort-style training center in Guadalajara,
your
upholstery training program, your hair design program, etc. As you know,
I'm
just scratching the surface - the list keeps just on going and according
to
this 2006 In These Times cover story, The Cult of Character, business is
booming:


Gothard, the 74-year-old, unmarried man at the head of the Oak Brook,
Illinois-based Institute in Basic Life Principles (IBLP) - which brings
in
an estimated profit of at least $63 million annually - has been in the
evangelism business since 1964.


$63 million? The superstition business must be doing quite well.



<snips>

I also have a confession to make. Like Gov. Huckabee, I've engaged in
similar activities. For the past decade, I've been a member of 98
Degrees, a
group that performs the kind of music warned against as "unclean" and
"satanic" in an article you published, Ten Scriptural Reasons Why the
"Rock
Beat" is Evil in Any Form. Taken from that essay, here's a list which
might
be called "Bill Gothard's Ten Commandments of Rock":

I. THE "ROCK BEAT" DECEIVES YOUTH INTO VIOLATING THE FIFTH COMMANDMENT

II. THE "ROCK BEAT" VIOLATES GOD'S COMMAND TO "GIVE NO PLACE TO THE
DEVIL"

III. THE "ROCK BEAT" MOCKS GOD'S COMMAND TO "LOVE NOT THE WORLD"

IV. THE "ROCK BEAT" DISREGARDS GOD'S COMMAND NOT TO OFFEND OTHER
CHRISTIANS

V. THE "ROCK BEAT" DEFIES GOD'S COMMAND TO JUDGE ALL THINGS AS GOOD OR
EVIL

VI. THE "ROCK BEAT" DISOBEYS GOD'S COMMAND TO AVOID "ALL APPEARANCE OF
EVIL"

VII. THE "ROCK BEAT" CONTRADICTS GOD'S COMMAND NOT TO BE BROUGHT UNDER
ITS
POWER

VIII. THE "ROCK BEAT" OPPOSES GOD'S COMMAND NOT TO MIX LIGHT WITH
DARKNESS

IX. THE "ROCK BEAT" IGNORES GOD'S COMMAND FOR ALL MINISTERS TO BE
QUALIFIED

X. THE "ROCK BEAT" VIOLATES GOD'S COMMAND TO PROTECT OUR BODIES AS
GOD'S
TEMPLE


How ridiculous! What about all these Christian rock groups?




Anyway, steady yourself, Dr. G, because I'm about to reveal some even
more
shocking information about Gov. Huckabee. He recently told a New York
Times
reporter he wants The Rolling Stones to play at his inaugural. Get thee
behind me, Mick!


I hope they play "Sympathy for the Devil".


I used that as the title to my story about Emperor Palpatine's
horrific childhood.

Is it published?
--
John #1782
.


User: "Conspiracy of Doves"

Title: Re: Is Mike Huckabee Going to Rock & Roll Hell? A Letter to BillGothard from Justin Jeffre 07 Jan 2008 11:40:00 AM
On Jan 7, 1:56 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In article <uKudnck1Bp8yBhzanZ2dnUVZ_t6on...@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:



Is Mike Huckabee Going to Rock & Roll Hell? A Letter to Bill Gothard
from Justin Jeffre


by deanofcincinnatti
December 31, 2007
Talk to Action


Bill Gothard PhD, Founder/President
The Institute in Basic Life Principles
Oak Brook, IL


Dear Dr. Gothard:


For the past couple years, my colleague, the Dean of Cincinnati, has
been writing articles about you and your various enterprises. Before then I'd
never even heard of you, your institute, your "character-building" seminars,
your unaccredited medical school, your unaccredited law school, your nursing
program, your Children's Institute, your bible-centered paramilitary boot
camp, your music school, your culinary arts program, your Institute of
Photographic Studies, your resort-style training center in Guadalajara, your
upholstery training program, your hair design program, etc. As you know, I'm
just scratching the surface - the list keeps just on going and according to
this 2006 In These Times cover story, The Cult of Character, business is
booming:


Gothard, the 74-year-old, unmarried man at the head of the Oak Brook,
Illinois-based Institute in Basic Life Principles (IBLP) - which brings in
an estimated profit of at least $63 million annually - has been in the
evangelism business since 1964.


$63 million? The superstition business must be doing quite well.



<snips>



I also have a confession to make. Like Gov. Huckabee, I've engaged in
similar activities. For the past decade, I've been a member of 98 Degrees, a
group that performs the kind of music warned against as "unclean" and
"satanic" in an article you published, Ten Scriptural Reasons Why the "Rock
Beat" is Evil in Any Form. Taken from that essay, here's a list which might
be called "Bill Gothard's Ten Commandments of Rock":


I. THE "ROCK BEAT" DECEIVES YOUTH INTO VIOLATING THE FIFTH COMMANDMENT


II. THE "ROCK BEAT" VIOLATES GOD'S COMMAND TO "GIVE NO PLACE TO THE DEVIL"


III. THE "ROCK BEAT" MOCKS GOD'S COMMAND TO "LOVE NOT THE WORLD"


IV. THE "ROCK BEAT" DISREGARDS GOD'S COMMAND NOT TO OFFEND OTHER
CHRISTIANS


V. THE "ROCK BEAT" DEFIES GOD'S COMMAND TO JUDGE ALL THINGS AS GOOD OR
EVIL


VI. THE "ROCK BEAT" DISOBEYS GOD'S COMMAND TO AVOID "ALL APPEARANCE OF
EVIL"


VII. THE "ROCK BEAT" CONTRADICTS GOD'S COMMAND NOT TO BE BROUGHT UNDER ITS
POWER


VIII. THE "ROCK BEAT" OPPOSES GOD'S COMMAND NOT TO MIX LIGHT WITH DARKNESS


IX. THE "ROCK BEAT" IGNORES GOD'S COMMAND FOR ALL MINISTERS TO BE
QUALIFIED


X. THE "ROCK BEAT" VIOLATES GOD'S COMMAND TO PROTECT OUR BODIES AS GOD'S
TEMPLE


How ridiculous! What about all these Christian rock groups?

That violates the one about mixing light (rock and roll) with darkness
(christianity)
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Is Mike Huckabee Going to Rock & Roll Hell? A Letter to Bill Gothard from Justin Jeffre 08 Jan 2008 01:35:39 AM
In article
<84c5f3a8-d81a-4cdc-b70c-e23f6b1c543c@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Conspiracy of Doves <mark_dp73@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Jan 7, 1:56 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In article <uKudnck1Bp8yBhzanZ2dnUVZ_t6on...@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:



Is Mike Huckabee Going to Rock & Roll Hell? A Letter to Bill
Gothard
from Justin Jeffre


by deanofcincinnatti
December 31, 2007
Talk to Action


Bill Gothard PhD, Founder/President
The Institute in Basic Life Principles
Oak Brook, IL


Dear Dr. Gothard:


For the past couple years, my colleague, the Dean of Cincinnati,
has
been writing articles about you and your various enterprises. Before then
I'd
never even heard of you, your institute, your "character-building"
seminars,
your unaccredited medical school, your unaccredited law school, your
nursing
program, your Children's Institute, your bible-centered paramilitary boot
camp, your music school, your culinary arts program, your Institute of
Photographic Studies, your resort-style training center in Guadalajara,
your
upholstery training program, your hair design program, etc. As you know,
I'm
just scratching the surface - the list keeps just on going and according
to
this 2006 In These Times cover story, The Cult of Character, business is
booming:


Gothard, the 74-year-old, unmarried man at the head of the Oak Brook,
Illinois-based Institute in Basic Life Principles (IBLP) - which brings
in
an estimated profit of at least $63 million annually - has been in the
evangelism business since 1964.


$63 million? The superstition business must be doing quite well.



<snips>



I also have a confession to make. Like Gov. Huckabee, I've engaged in
similar activities. For the past decade, I've been a member of 98
Degrees, a
group that performs the kind of music warned against as "unclean" and
"satanic" in an article you published, Ten Scriptural Reasons Why the
"Rock
Beat" is Evil in Any Form. Taken from that essay, here's a list which
might
be called "Bill Gothard's Ten Commandments of Rock":


I. THE "ROCK BEAT" DECEIVES YOUTH INTO VIOLATING THE FIFTH COMMANDMENT


II. THE "ROCK BEAT" VIOLATES GOD'S COMMAND TO "GIVE NO PLACE TO THE
DEVIL"


III. THE "ROCK BEAT" MOCKS GOD'S COMMAND TO "LOVE NOT THE WORLD"


IV. THE "ROCK BEAT" DISREGARDS GOD'S COMMAND NOT TO OFFEND OTHER
CHRISTIANS


V. THE "ROCK BEAT" DEFIES GOD'S COMMAND TO JUDGE ALL THINGS AS GOOD OR
EVIL


VI. THE "ROCK BEAT" DISOBEYS GOD'S COMMAND TO AVOID "ALL APPEARANCE OF
EVIL"


VII. THE "ROCK BEAT" CONTRADICTS GOD'S COMMAND NOT TO BE BROUGHT UNDER
ITS
POWER


VIII. THE "ROCK BEAT" OPPOSES GOD'S COMMAND NOT TO MIX LIGHT WITH
DARKNESS


IX. THE "ROCK BEAT" IGNORES GOD'S COMMAND FOR ALL MINISTERS TO BE
QUALIFIED


X. THE "ROCK BEAT" VIOLATES GOD'S COMMAND TO PROTECT OUR BODIES AS
GOD'S
TEMPLE


How ridiculous! What about all these Christian rock groups?


That violates the one about mixing light (rock and roll) with darkness
(christianity)

For a while after Vatican 2, the RCC in some parishes allowed rock bands
at their masses. Under the last two popes, they were chased out again.
--
John #1782
.


User: "raven1"

Title: Re: Is Mike Huckabee Going to Rock & Roll Hell? A Letter to Bill Gothard from Justin Jeffre 08 Jan 2008 02:12:27 AM
On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 22:56:10 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

How ridiculous! What about all these Christian rock groups?

For centuries, from the beginnings of plainsong, through the Masses of
the great composers of the Middle Ages and the Renaissance, to JS Bach
and beyond, much of the best Western music ever written was explicitly
religious.
So why is it that all "Christian Rock" bands *really* suck?
---
"Faith may not move mountains, but you should see what it does to skyscrapers..."
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Is Mike Huckabee Going to Rock & Roll Hell? A Letter to Bill Gothard from Justin Jeffre 09 Jan 2008 12:22:50 AM
In article <mhb6o3hp2b6lfvatcba9nv043tgfmv1t61@4ax.com>,
raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 22:56:10 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

How ridiculous! What about all these Christian rock groups?


For centuries, from the beginnings of plainsong, through the Masses of
the great composers of the Middle Ages and the Renaissance, to JS Bach
and beyond, much of the best Western music ever written was explicitly
religious.

So why is it that all "Christian Rock" bands *really* suck?

I don't listen to much Christian Rock, but this Gothard character seems
to think that rock is inherently evil.
By the way, I agree with you about Bach, Mozart, and the other
composers. Some of their most beautiful music was written for religious
services. I have many examples of it in my collection.

---

"Faith may not move mountains, but you should see what it does to
skyscrapers..."

--
John #1782
.

User: "Apostate"

Title: Re: Is Mike Huckabee Going to Rock & Roll Hell? A Letter to Bill Gothard from Justin Jeffre 08 Jan 2008 01:21:46 PM
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 03:12:27 -0500, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 22:56:10 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

How ridiculous! What about all these Christian rock groups?


For centuries, from the beginnings of plainsong, through the Masses of
the great composers of the Middle Ages and the Renaissance, to JS Bach
and beyond, much of the best Western music ever written was explicitly
religious.

So why is it that all "Christian Rock" bands *really* suck?

Because they're only needed in these little hives of born-again but non-sectarian neoevangelism
where people wash up after they're washed up in mainstream culture, either by alcoholism or
abusive marriages or whatever possesses people to give up on their brains and on their own
efforts to run their own lives. Unsurprisingly, the very talented aren't well represented
there, so mediocre wannabes are the 'special' class.
Did that sound a little like "non-traditional Christians are retards?" I've only observed
close-up on a small scale, so I don't have that kind of data.
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Apostate a.a. #1931
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User: "Dag Yo"

Title: Re: Is Mike Huckabee Going to Rock & Roll Hell? A Letter to BillGothard from Justin Jeffre 08 Jan 2008 01:02:14 AM
That was a very long joke right?
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