Since no waman WANTS to practice those with you, you don't think
so...

And it sounds like this Wendy dame doesn't have a full dance card
herself.

What a load of shite -- Wendy Shalit needs a good ***** and a Hash
brownie.

"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1127867352.216083.242100@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
: http://www.opinionjournal.com/la/?id=110007288
:
:
: Not Liberating, After All
: How did feminists end up in bed with Hugh Hefner?
:
: BY WENDY SHALIT
:
:
: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 12:01 a.m. EDT
:
: Ariel Levy attended Wesleyan University in the 1990s, and she doesn't
: feel the better for it. It was a place where "group sex, to say
nothing
: of casual sex, was de rigueur." It was a place where they had "coed
: showers, on principle." When Ms. Levy suggested to a department head
: that it would be nice to have at least one course in the traditional
: literary canon, she was dismissed with icy contempt. Yet elsewhere on
: campus a professor of the humanities taught a course on pornography
: featuring, um, detailed textual analysis.
:
: It was all supposed to be so liberating. But it wasn't, as Ms. Levy
: argues forcefully in "Female Chauvinist Pigs." It was merely the
: academic groundwork for what she calls "raunch culture," now so
: ubiquitous that we take it for granted. Young women wear shirts
: emblazoned with "Porn Star" across the chest. Teen stores sell "Cat in
: the Hat" thong underwear. Parents treat their daughters' friends to
: "cardio striptease" classes for birthday parties. This is liberation?
:
: Ms. Levy is baffled. "Why," she wondered, "is laboring to look like
: Pamela Anderson empowering?" Why did female Olympic athletes pose for
: Playboy before the summer 2004 Games? Why did Katie Couric feel the
: need to point to her cleavage and gush "these are actually real!" when
: she guest-hosted "The Tonight Show" a couple of years ago?
:
: Some sort of pervasive pressure, apparently, requires "everyone who is
: sexually liberated . . . to be imitating strippers and porn stars."
Ms.
: Levy describes the perfect distillation of this impulse--a social
group
: called CAKE that hosts steamy, hooking-up parties in New York and
: London. CAKE makes big bucks advertising "feminism in action"--it
: claims to be the place where "sexual equality and feminism finally
: meet"--but its events are indistinguishable from those held at the
: Playboy Mansion.
:
: The surface logic of such conduct is fairly simple, notes Ms. Levy.
: "Women had come so far," or so the thinking went, that "we no longer
: needed to worry about objectification or misogyny." If male chauvinist
: pigs "regarded women as pieces of meat, we would outdo them and be
: Female Chauvinist Pigs: women who make sex objects of other women and
: of ourselves."
:
: Well, Ms. Levy is having none of it, and she is not the only one. Even
: Erica Jong seems to feel that something has gone wrong. Known for
: popularizing the idea that a woman may want consequence-free sex, Ms.
: Jong today declares: "Being able to have an orgasm with a man you
don't
: love . . . that is not liberation." It isn't? Someone should tell this
: to Annie, a blue-eyed 29-year-old who admits to Ms. Levy that she
"used
: to get so hurt" after a night of sex that didn't yield an emotional
: bond. Now she has gotten over it, or tried to: "I'm like a guy," she
: brags.
:
: How did this happen? Why did feminism sell its soul to the
: sexual-liberation movement in the first place? After all, the original
: feminists were fighting to be taken seriously. Hugh Hefner, by
: contrast, said that his ideal girl "resembles a bunny . . . vivacious,
: jumping--sexy." There seems to be a contradiction here.
:
: Ms. Levy's answer is that, after a brief and failed fight against
: pornography, feminism joined forces with Hef & Co. to fight for
: abortion rights. This is a plausible explanation, as far as it goes.
: Abortion has indeed assumed a primary importance in both feminist
: "rights" thinking and in the whole culture of soft-core libertinism:
: Mr. Hefner is a big fan of abortion, for obvious reasons.
:
: But something else may be going on. Feminism grounded itself, in its
: early days, in the idea that there were no differences between the
: sexes. A girl wanting to keep her virginity was bad, for sexual
: reticence amounted to asserting a separate standard, a Victorian one
at
: that. To Hef, modesty was a "hang-up," and to the feminists it was a
: "patriarchal construct." Ms. Levy believes that feminism was on the
: right track but then veered off-course: "What has moved into
feminism's
: place . . . is an almost opposite style, attitude, and set of
: principles."
:
: But maybe feminism's foundations were weak from the start. Everyone in
: Ms. Levy's book--whether it's middle-class girls who feel anxiety
about
: appearing "hot" or grown women who confess to Ms. Levy that
: "accumulating sex for its own sake . . . is not that sexual"--shows
: that a woman's experience of sex and love is very different from that
: of an adolescent boy or a man. Indeed, the more a woman imitates a
man,
: the clearer these differences become.
: Paris Hilton tells Rolling Stone: "My boyfriends always tell me I'm
not
: sexual. Sexy, but not sexual." (Ms. Levy reports that on one of the
: infamous videotapes she takes a cellphone call during intercourse.)
: Plainly, the sexual revolution has not brought fulfillment for women.
: Even its mascots experience boredom, and for the civilians there is
: distress and heartache.
:
: It may be that, like Ms. Levy, a lot of feminists now regret getting
in
: bed with Mr. Hefner. Yet if you mention the word "modesty" within 20
: feet of them their heads spin around like Linda Blair in "The
: Exorcist." This is where they get stuck. Only if feminism can embrace
: the more traditional ways that men and women have courted throughout
: the ages can it have anything practical to offer young women. To the
: extent that feminists dismiss as worthless anything that is perceived
: as "backtracking," they only help to perpetuate the "raunch
: culture"--even as they deplore its effects.
:
: Take a beach scene that Ms. Levy recounts, when the male "friends" of
: two girls pressure them to take off their suits. Soon surrounded by a
: circle of 40 screaming men, the girls say "no way!" but eventually
give
: in and spank each other to appease the crowd.
:
: Such a girl requires, in addition to perhaps Mace, a compelling
: alternative to the Female Chauvinist Pig. Otherwise she may well give
: in to social pressure--not to mention professorial nonsense--and then
: wonder what's wrong with her when she is not happy with the pig in her
: bed or the pig she has become.
:
:
:
: Ms. Shalit is author of "A Return to Modesty: Discovering the Lost
: Virtue." You can buy "Female Chauvinist Pigs" from the OpinionJournal
: bookstore.
:

words of truth wrote:

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Many muslims will tell you the same thing, that the freedom to walk
alone in clothes they choose is not at all liberating for women and is
not a real freedom, compared to the freedom women in islamic countries
have, of not being looked upon with lust all the time