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"Steve O" |
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13 Mar 2006 07:10:40 PM |
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Is scientology the only original religion in the world? |
When I think about it, every other religion I can think of has borrowed it's
themes and basic foundation from other religions.
There is no such thing as an original religion.
Except scientology- which doesn't seem to borrow from any other religion or
faith - and is about as whacked out a faith you can get.
Doesn't say much for organised religion, really, does it?
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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| Title: Re: Is scientology the only original religion in the world? |
13 Mar 2006 08:48:18 PM |
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In alt.atheism On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:10:40 -0000, "Steve O"
<stoboyle@hotmail.com> let us all know that:
When I think about it, every other religion I can think of has borrowed it's
themes and basic foundation from other religions.
There is no such thing as an original religion.
Except scientology- which doesn't seem to borrow from any other religion or
faith - and is about as whacked out a faith you can get.
Doesn't say much for organised religion, really, does it?
Have you looked into the Church of the Subgenius?
Don
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aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "Father Haskell" |
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13 Mar 2006 09:24:29 PM |
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Don Kresch wrote:
In alt.atheism On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:10:40 -0000, "Steve O"
<stoboyle@hotmail.com> let us all know that:
When I think about it, every other religion I can think of has borrowed it's
themes and basic foundation from other religions.
There is no such thing as an original religion.
Except scientology- which doesn't seem to borrow from any other religion or
faith - and is about as whacked out a faith you can get.
Doesn't say much for organised religion, really, does it?
Have you looked into the Church of the Subgenius?
It's borrowed much of its clipart -- its iconic base -- from old issues
of Nat Geo. Even "Bob" was stolen from somewhere, HAD to have
been, though no one knows from where or whence.
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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14 Mar 2006 12:49:41 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:24:29 -0600, Father Haskell wrote
(in article <1142306669.498447.122610@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>):
Don Kresch wrote:
In alt.atheism On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:10:40 -0000, "Steve O"
<stoboyle@hotmail.com> let us all know that:
When I think about it, every other religion I can think of has borrowed
it's
themes and basic foundation from other religions.
There is no such thing as an original religion.
Except scientology- which doesn't seem to borrow from any other religion or
faith - and is about as whacked out a faith you can get.
Doesn't say much for organised religion, really, does it?
Have you looked into the Church of the Subgenius?
It's borrowed much of its clipart -- its iconic base -- from old issues
of Nat Geo. Even "Bob" was stolen from somewhere, HAD to have
been, though no one knows from where or whence.
He looks a lot like the old Mark Trail comic strip character of the same
name. There was another comic character that looked even more like Bob, but I
can't place it after all these years, at least 40.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
"You think atoms like having a half-life?"
Incenjucar
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Is scientology the only original religion in the world? |
13 Mar 2006 08:12:44 PM |
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In article <47mjgjFgc5rrU1@individual.net>, says...
When I think about it, every other religion I can think of has borrowed it's
themes and basic foundation from other religions.
Scientology borrowed names like Xenu from comic books, star trek, pop
psychology (though they'll never admit that) and dollops of pseudo-
science here and there. The rest was just made up on L. Ron's drug trips
and cobbled together, one haphazard bit at a time.
There is no such thing as an original religion.
Except scientology- which doesn't seem to borrow from any other religion
It wasn't even a religion to start out with. They just found that a
convenient way to hide from taxes and other legal issues.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Comrad Bluskie" |
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14 Mar 2006 01:21:06 PM |
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quibbler wrote:
In article <47mjgjFgc5rrU1@individual.net>, says...
When I think about it, every other religion I can think of has borrowed it's
themes and basic foundation from other religions.
Scientology borrowed names like Xenu from comic books, star trek, pop
psychology (though they'll never admit that) and dollops of pseudo-
science here and there. The rest was just made up on L. Ron's drug trips
and cobbled together, one haphazard bit at a time.
There is no such thing as an original religion.
Except scientology- which doesn't seem to borrow from any other religion
It wasn't even a religion to start out with. They just found that a
convenient way to hide from taxes and other legal issues.
Hubbard's fellow science-fiction authors said on various occasions
he(hubbard) stated that the way to get rich was to start a religion.
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| User: "stoney" |
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18 Mar 2006 10:09:58 PM |
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:10:40 -0000, "Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
When I think about it, every other religion I can think of has borrowed it's
themes and basic foundation from other religions.
There is no such thing as an original religion.
Except scientology- which doesn't seem to borrow from any other religion or
faith - and is about as whacked out a faith you can get.
Doesn't say much for organised religion, really, does it?
Organized religion is a crime against humanity.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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19 Mar 2006 03:17:47 AM |
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On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:09:58 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <5cmp12dcqsid0berer5qe0oitbisai2esm@4ax.com>
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:10:40 -0000, "Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
When I think about it, every other religion I can think of has borrowed it's
themes and basic foundation from other religions.
There is no such thing as an original religion.
Except scientology- which doesn't seem to borrow from any other religion or
faith - and is about as whacked out a faith you can get.
Doesn't say much for organised religion, really, does it?
Organized religion is a crime against humanity.
What about disorganised religion?
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| User: "stoney" |
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19 Mar 2006 04:23:03 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:47:47 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:09:58 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <5cmp12dcqsid0berer5qe0oitbisai2esm@4ax.com>
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:10:40 -0000, "Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
When I think about it, every other religion I can think of has borrowed it's
themes and basic foundation from other religions.
There is no such thing as an original religion.
Except scientology- which doesn't seem to borrow from any other religion or
faith - and is about as whacked out a faith you can get.
Doesn't say much for organised religion, really, does it?
Organized religion is a crime against humanity.
What about disorganised religion?
Gang bangers.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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20 Mar 2006 04:04:41 AM |
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 14:23:03 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <qdmr125sd75drqoaji0o3bfslmodgmbsbv@4ax.com>
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:47:47 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:09:58 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <5cmp12dcqsid0berer5qe0oitbisai2esm@4ax.com>
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:10:40 -0000, "Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
When I think about it, every other religion I can think of has borrowed it's
themes and basic foundation from other religions.
There is no such thing as an original religion.
Except scientology- which doesn't seem to borrow from any other religion or
faith - and is about as whacked out a faith you can get.
Doesn't say much for organised religion, really, does it?
Organized religion is a crime against humanity.
What about disorganised religion?
Gang bangers.
A crime against Aussie sausages!
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| User: "stoney" |
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20 Mar 2006 09:59:07 AM |
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:34:41 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 14:23:03 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <qdmr125sd75drqoaji0o3bfslmodgmbsbv@4ax.com>
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:47:47 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:09:58 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <5cmp12dcqsid0berer5qe0oitbisai2esm@4ax.com>
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:10:40 -0000, "Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
When I think about it, every other religion I can think of has borrowed it's
themes and basic foundation from other religions.
There is no such thing as an original religion.
Except scientology- which doesn't seem to borrow from any other religion or
faith - and is about as whacked out a faith you can get.
Doesn't say much for organised religion, really, does it?
Organized religion is a crime against humanity.
What about disorganised religion?
Gang bangers.
A crime against Aussie sausages!
Sounds like they're in hot grease.....
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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20 Mar 2006 05:12:36 PM |
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:59:07 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <r9kt12tob82pddtrjduh4p30vbt4n5o631@4ax.com>
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:34:41 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 14:23:03 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <qdmr125sd75drqoaji0o3bfslmodgmbsbv@4ax.com>
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:47:47 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:09:58 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <5cmp12dcqsid0berer5qe0oitbisai2esm@4ax.com>
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:10:40 -0000, "Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
When I think about it, every other religion I can think of has borrowed it's
themes and basic foundation from other religions.
There is no such thing as an original religion.
Except scientology- which doesn't seem to borrow from any other religion or
faith - and is about as whacked out a faith you can get.
Doesn't say much for organised religion, really, does it?
Organized religion is a crime against humanity.
What about disorganised religion?
Gang bangers.
A crime against Aussie sausages!
Sounds like they're in hot grease.....
That's the only 'snag'.
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| User: "stoney" |
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22 Mar 2006 11:35:52 AM |
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On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:42:36 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:59:07 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <r9kt12tob82pddtrjduh4p30vbt4n5o631@4ax.com>
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:34:41 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 14:23:03 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <qdmr125sd75drqoaji0o3bfslmodgmbsbv@4ax.com>
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:47:47 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:09:58 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <5cmp12dcqsid0berer5qe0oitbisai2esm@4ax.com>
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:10:40 -0000, "Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
When I think about it, every other religion I can think of has borrowed it's
themes and basic foundation from other religions.
There is no such thing as an original religion.
Except scientology- which doesn't seem to borrow from any other religion or
faith - and is about as whacked out a faith you can get.
Doesn't say much for organised religion, really, does it?
Organized religion is a crime against humanity.
What about disorganised religion?
Gang bangers.
A crime against Aussie sausages!
Sounds like they're in hot grease.....
That's the only 'snag'.
but they get 'forked'.....
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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22 Mar 2006 06:05:00 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:35:52 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <2n2322t51hck0f0tnrbmlo5t3hl9p1hh5p@4ax.com>
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:42:36 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:59:07 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <r9kt12tob82pddtrjduh4p30vbt4n5o631@4ax.com>
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:34:41 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 14:23:03 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <qdmr125sd75drqoaji0o3bfslmodgmbsbv@4ax.com>
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:47:47 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:09:58 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <5cmp12dcqsid0berer5qe0oitbisai2esm@4ax.com>
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:10:40 -0000, "Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
When I think about it, every other religion I can think of has borrowed it's
themes and basic foundation from other religions.
There is no such thing as an original religion.
Except scientology- which doesn't seem to borrow from any other religion or
faith - and is about as whacked out a faith you can get.
Doesn't say much for organised religion, really, does it?
Organized religion is a crime against humanity.
What about disorganised religion?
Gang bangers.
A crime against Aussie sausages!
Sounds like they're in hot grease.....
That's the only 'snag'.
but they get 'forked'.....
Only after they have been in someone's mouth and masticated for a
while...
--
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24 Mar 2006 10:02:05 AM |
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On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:35:00 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:35:52 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <2n2322t51hck0f0tnrbmlo5t3hl9p1hh5p@4ax.com>
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:42:36 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
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Organized religion is a crime against humanity.
What about disorganised religion?
Gang bangers.
A crime against Aussie sausages!
Sounds like they're in hot grease.....
That's the only 'snag'.
but they get 'forked'.....
Only after they have been in someone's mouth and masticated for a
while...
and ejaculated, if they were cheese filled, or even if not....
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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24 Mar 2006 07:30:20 PM |
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On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:02:05 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <ku5822952pva7okdsrhrflbbmgq94oqjak@4ax.com>
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:35:00 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:35:52 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <2n2322t51hck0f0tnrbmlo5t3hl9p1hh5p@4ax.com>
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:42:36 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
[]
Organized religion is a crime against humanity.
What about disorganised religion?
Gang bangers.
A crime against Aussie sausages!
Sounds like they're in hot grease.....
That's the only 'snag'.
but they get 'forked'.....
Only after they have been in someone's mouth and masticated for a
while...
and ejaculated, if they were cheese filled, or even if not....
Don't forget the special sauce!
--
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25 Mar 2006 11:03:09 AM |
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On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:00:20 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:02:05 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <ku5822952pva7okdsrhrflbbmgq94oqjak@4ax.com>
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:35:00 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:35:52 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <2n2322t51hck0f0tnrbmlo5t3hl9p1hh5p@4ax.com>
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:42:36 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
[]
Organized religion is a crime against humanity.
What about disorganised religion?
Gang bangers.
A crime against Aussie sausages!
Sounds like they're in hot grease.....
That's the only 'snag'.
but they get 'forked'.....
Only after they have been in someone's mouth and masticated for a
while...
and ejaculated, if they were cheese filled, or even if not....
Don't forget the special sauce!
That's always an option...
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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06 Apr 2006 10:28:50 AM |
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how is organised religion a crime against humanity? if you can really
provide proof that what you say is true, please send your proof to me.
otherwise, I've no reason to believe anything i have read here, which
would prove that you have no idea what you are talking about.
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| User: "stoney" |
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07 Apr 2006 10:41:09 AM |
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On 6 Apr 2006 08:28:50 -0700, "CreoleKing" <getready2dye@yahoo.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
how is organised religion a crime against humanity? if you can really
provide proof that what you say is true, please send your proof to me.
otherwise, I've no reason to believe anything i have read here, which
would prove that you have no idea what you are talking about.
Drools the babbling idiot.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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07 Apr 2006 10:19:06 PM |
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On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 08:41:09 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
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On 6 Apr 2006 08:28:50 -0700, "CreoleKing" <getready2dye@yahoo.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
how is organised religion a crime against humanity? if you can really
provide proof that what you say is true, please send your proof to me.
otherwise, I've no reason to believe anything i have read here, which
would prove that you have no idea what you are talking about.
Drools the babbling idiot.
He's probably a "Operating Thetan" version of babbling idiot.
--
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09 Apr 2006 12:55:51 PM |
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On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 12:49:06 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 08:41:09 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <qv1d32th5q4s5jdhqss7du5g92cs1496ba@4ax.com>
On 6 Apr 2006 08:28:50 -0700, "CreoleKing" <getready2dye@yahoo.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
how is organised religion a crime against humanity? if you can really
provide proof that what you say is true, please send your proof to me.
otherwise, I've no reason to believe anything i have read here, which
would prove that you have no idea what you are talking about.
Drools the babbling idiot.
He's probably a "Operating Thetan" version of babbling idiot.
*That* evolved? [astonishment]
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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09 Apr 2006 09:54:57 PM |
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On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:55:51 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
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On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 12:49:06 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 08:41:09 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <qv1d32th5q4s5jdhqss7du5g92cs1496ba@4ax.com>
On 6 Apr 2006 08:28:50 -0700, "CreoleKing" <getready2dye@yahoo.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
how is organised religion a crime against humanity? if you can really
provide proof that what you say is true, please send your proof to me.
otherwise, I've no reason to believe anything i have read here, which
would prove that you have no idea what you are talking about.
Drools the babbling idiot.
He's probably a "Operating Thetan" version of babbling idiot.
*That* evolved? [astonishment]
He's so evolved that he'll be taking over Hollywood next, if his
engrams can be better matched to Travolta's or Kirsty Alley-cat's.
Then who knows? Perhaps Pro-Wresting?
The only way is up.
(Or sideways to Christinsanity.)
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06 Apr 2006 06:56:36 PM |
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On 6 Apr 2006 08:28:50 -0700, "CreoleKing" <getready2dye@yahoo.com>
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how is organised religion a crime against humanity? if you can really
provide proof that what you say is true, please send your proof to me.
otherwise, I've no reason to believe anything i have read here, which
would prove that you have no idea what you are talking about.
If I may be permitted to give but one example out of many:
The RCCs prohibition on the use of condoms has directly resulted in
millions of agonising deaths (including those of formerly supported
infants) that may have otherwise been prevented.
This is a clear case of the religious hierarchy sticking to a dogma in
the full knowledge that is would kill millions.
This is proven crime against humanity.
(And could you please properly quote the post that you are responding
to in future?)
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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| Title: Re: Is scientology the only original religion in the world? |
19 Mar 2006 08:57:12 AM |
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stoney wrote:
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:10:40 -0000, "Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
When I think about it, every other religion I can think of has borrowed
it's themes and basic foundation from other religions.
There is no such thing as an original religion.
Except scientology- which doesn't seem to borrow from any other religion
or faith - and is about as whacked out a faith you can get.
Doesn't say much for organised religion, really, does it?
Organized religion is a crime against humanity.
Originally, Scientology was not touted as a religion.
It only becamse one when Hubbard realized it offered him
tax and legal advantages.
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From alt.religion.scientology
Scientology: Not a religion
I started to idly almost, collect statements from
Hubbard which seem to indicate Scientology was
never really a religion except for convenience's
sake. I have now a fair collection.
If anybody has anymore good ones, send them to
me.
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Is Scientology a religion? Hubbard
says no.
Mini-FAQ Ver. 1 September 29.
1997
William C Barwell
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(1)
Society, thirsting for more control of more
people substitutes religion for the spirit,
the body for the soul, an identity for the
individual and science and data for truth.
In this direction lies insanity, increasing
slavery, less knowingness, greater scarcity
and less society.
Scientology has opened the gates to a better
World. IT IS NOT A PSYCHO-THERAPY NOR A
RELIGION. It is a body of knowledge which,
when properly used, gives freedom and truth
to the individual.
-- L. Ron Hubbard, "The Creation of Human
Ability" Los Angeles: A.S.H.O., 1971,
page 251
This was later removed from later editions.
(2)
From History of Man LRH 1952
Chapter 8
Theta clearing is about as practical and simple
as repairing a shoe lace. It is nothing to do
with hypnotism, voodooism, charalatanism, monkeyism
or theosophy. Done, the thetan can do anything a
stage magician can do in the way of moving objects
around. But this isn't attained by holding one's
breathe or thinking right thoughts or voting
Republican or any other superstitious or mystic
practice. So for the reason I brought up, rule out,
auditor, any mumbo jumbo or mysticism, spiritualism,
or religion.
LRH
(3)
Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter
(HCOPL) 29 Oct. 1962, "Religion":
"Scientology 1970 is being planned on a
religious organization basis throughout the
world. This will not upset in any way the
usual activities of any organization. It
is entirely a matter for accountants and
solicitors."
(4) In letter to Hellen O'Brien, 1953
(1953)
DEAR HELEN
APRIL 10
RE CLINIC, HAS
The arrangements that have been made
seem a good temporary measure. On a longer
look, however, something more equitable will
have to be organized. I am not quite sure
what we would call the place - probably not
a clinic - but I am sure that it ought to be
a company, independent of the HAS but fed by
the HAS.
We don't want a clinic. We want one in
operation but not in name. Perhaps we could
call it a Spiritual Guidance Center. Think up
its name, will you. And we could put in nice
desks and our boys in neat blue with diplomas
on the walls and 1. knock psychotherapy into
history and 2. make enough money to shine up
my operating scope and 3. keep the HAS solvent.
It is a problem of practical business.
I await your reaction on the religion
angle. In my opinion, we couldn't get worse
public opinion than we have had or have less
customers with what we've got to sell. A
religious charter would be necessary in Pennsylvania
or NJ to make it stick. But I sure could
make it stick. We're treating the present time
beingness, psychotherapy treats the past and the
brain. And brother, that's religion, not mental
science.
Best Regards,
Ron
(5)
Is Scientology a Religion? What does Hubbard say
in his book, "The Fundamentals of Scientology"?
Fundamentals of Thought L. R. Hubbard
1956 1983 edition Bridge Publishing
......
Page 8
The term Scientology is taken from the Latin word
scio (knowing in the fullest sense of the word) and
logos (study of).
Scientology, used by the untrained and the trained
person, improves the health, intelligence, ability,
behavior, skill and appearance of people.
It is a precise and exact science, designed for an
age of exact sciences.
***********************
Well, here Hubbard had a chance to explain how
Scientology is a religion. But it is not a religion,
it is an 'exact science'.
************************
(6)
Scientology is a branch of psychology which treats
of human ability.
LRH Page 7
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Scientology is supposedly a mere branch of
psychology.
No religion, here either.
In fundamentals of thought, there are no mentions
of religion. Religion plays no part in the
fundamentals of thought as defined by
Hubbard.
****************************
(7)
Page 55
Probably the greatest discovery of Scientology and
its most forceful contribution of mankind has been
the isolation, description and handling of the human
spirit, accomplished in July, 1951,in Phoenix Arizona.
I established, along scientific rather than religious
or humanitarian lines that the thing which is the
person, the personality, is separable from the body
and the mind at will and without causing bodily death
or derangement.
(Not along religious lines. Note that. Not a
religion. In the book's index, religion is not listed.
Nor is religion listed in this book's glossary.)
**************************************************
Scientology is no religion in any sense.
Except as a matter for solicitors and accountants.
As a "religious angle" as Hubbard called it in his
letter to O'Brien.
(End)
If anybody knows of other similar statements from
L. Ron Hubbard please send them to:
(End)
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So you want to fight the Master!
First you must fight my brother Chang!
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "George Wright" |
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| Title: Re: Is scientology the only original religion in the world? |
19 Mar 2006 09:02:56 AM |
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"wbarwell" <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:121qrseilqlu630@corp.supernews.com...
[...]
I started to idly almost, collect statements from
Hubbard which seem to indicate Scientology was
never really a religion except for convenience's
sake. I have now a fair collection.
[...]
Bill, you seem pretty knowledgeable on this. Have you ever heard anything
to the effect that Hubbard started Scientology on a bet with Robert
Heinlein? I have some vague memory of reading that somewhere.
Geo
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| User: "Steve O" |
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| Title: Re: Is scientology the only original religion in the world? |
19 Mar 2006 09:21:28 AM |
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"George Wright" <geo@loyola.edu> wrote in message
news:s5ydnR2c_OkH74DZnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
"wbarwell" <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:121qrseilqlu630@corp.supernews.com...
[...]
I started to idly almost, collect statements from
Hubbard which seem to indicate Scientology was
never really a religion except for convenience's
sake. I have now a fair collection.
[...]
Bill, you seem pretty knowledgeable on this. Have you ever heard anything
to the effect that Hubbard started Scientology on a bet with Robert
Heinlein? I have some vague memory of reading that somewhere.
Geo
It is supposed to be true.
Operation Clambake (see link ) has some useful info on the scam of
scientology.
http://www.xenu.net/
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| User: "George Wright" |
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| Title: Re: Is scientology the only original religion in the world? |
19 Mar 2006 09:35:13 AM |
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"Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:485b7pFghcccU1@individual.net...
[...]
Bill, you seem pretty knowledgeable on this. Have you ever heard
anything to the effect that Hubbard started Scientology on a bet with
Robert Heinlein? I have some vague memory of reading that somewhere.
[...]
It is supposed to be true.
Operation Clambake (see link ) has some useful info on the scam of
scientology.
http://www.xenu.net/
Thanks for the link. I did a search on the site for "Heinlein" and came up
with
http://www.xenu.net/archive/oca/wonders.html.
If that's all there is, I think Bill Barwell's compilation looks more
convincing.
Geo
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Is scientology the only original religion in the world? |
14 Mar 2006 06:04:24 AM |
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:10:40 -0000, "Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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When I think about it, every other religion I can think of has borrowed it's
themes and basic foundation from other religions.
There is no such thing as an original religion.
Except scientology- which doesn't seem to borrow from any other religion or
faith - and is about as whacked out a faith you can get.
Doesn't say much for organised religion, really, does it?
What did the Australian Aboriginal Dreamtime borrow from other
religions?
So, your inital bold assertion is incorrect.
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| User: "George" |
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| Title: Re: Is scientology the only original religion in the world? |
14 Mar 2006 01:25:39 PM |
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Michael Gray wrote:
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:10:40 -0000, "Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <47mjgjFgc5rrU1@individual.net>
When I think about it, every other religion I can think of has borrowed it's
themes and basic foundation from other religions.
There is no such thing as an original religion.
Except scientology- which doesn't seem to borrow from any other religion or
faith - and is about as whacked out a faith you can get.
Doesn't say much for organised religion, really, does it?
What did the Australian Aboriginal Dreamtime borrow from other
religions?
So, your inital bold assertion is incorrect.
Well the Dreamtime -is- the original that all religions are based upon.
60,000 years and still going strong
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Is scientology the only original religion in the world? |
14 Mar 2006 08:57:19 PM |
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On 14 Mar 2006 11:25:39 -0800, "George" <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
- Refer: <1142364339.383207.5360@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Michael Gray wrote:
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:10:40 -0000, "Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <47mjgjFgc5rrU1@individual.net>
When I think about it, every other religion I can think of has borrowed it's
themes and basic foundation from other religions.
There is no such thing as an original religion.
Except scientology- which doesn't seem to borrow from any other religion or
faith - and is about as whacked out a faith you can get.
Doesn't say much for organised religion, really, does it?
What did the Australian Aboriginal Dreamtime borrow from other
religions?
So, your inital bold assertion is incorrect.
Well the Dreamtime -is- the original that all religions are based upon.
60,000 years and still going strong
Oooh, you just managed to sneak out of that logical noose by the skin
of your teeth! ;)
(If I may be excused the atrocious metaphor mixing.)
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Is scientology the only original religion in the world? |
13 Mar 2006 09:03:51 PM |
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:10:40 -0000, "Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com>
wrote:
When I think about it, every other religion I can think of has borrowed it's
themes and basic foundation from other religions.
There is no such thing as an original religion.
Except scientology- which doesn't seem to borrow from any other religion or
faith -
Hubbard stole from everything that didn't run fast enough to get away
just like every other religion. Anyone familiar with Aleister
Crowley's writing will be unsurprised on reading "Dianetics" that
Hubbard was a member of Crowley's Ordo Templi Orientis in the 1940s.
and is about as whacked out a faith you can get.
Doesn't say much for organised religion, really, does it?
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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| User: "Comrad Bluskie" |
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| Title: Re: Is scientology the only original religion in the world? |
14 Mar 2006 01:06:50 PM |
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Steve O wrote:
When I think about it, every other religion I can think of has borrowed it's
themes and basic foundation from other religions.
There is no such thing as an original religion.
Except scientology- which doesn't seem to borrow from any other religion or
faith - and is about as whacked out a faith you can get.
Doesn't say much for organised religion, really, does it?
scientology was invented as a mockery of religion, the lesson learned
is that some moronic idiots took it so seriously its now considered an
authentic religion, L. Ron Hubbard must be turning over in his grave
laughing over the irony.
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