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"JehovahsMessenger" |
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08 Dec 2005 09:51:49 PM |
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Is the bible anti-woman? |
Subject: Could it be true, why yes, it's in the bible, look for
yourself.
Despite apologists attempts to "white-wash" the bible with a
litany of
excuses, it does not change the fact that the bible is anti
women.
I urge you not to take my word for it but to check it out
yourself. Here are
some more biblical "gems" to look up:
GENESIS
2:22 Eve created from Adam's rib.
3:16 Cursed with painful childbirth and domination by husband.
4:17 Cain marries sister?
4:19 Man marries two wives.
12:13-19 Abraham prostitutes wife.
19:1-8 Rape virgin daughters instead of male angels.
19:26 Lot's wife turned into pillar of salt for disobeying god.
19:30-38 Lot impregnates his two daughters while drunk. (So much
for "family
values"!)
20:2-12 Abraham prostitutes wife - again.
25:1-6 Keeping many concubines is OK.
EXODUS
20:17 Wife as property.
21:4 Wife and children belong to master.
21:7-11 OK to sell daughters. Female slaves can be used for sex.
Polygamy permitted. Unwanted female slaves can be set "free"
without payment
of money.
22:18 Kill witches.
LEVITICUS
12:1 Childbirth a sin, Women unclean after childbirth.
15:19-32 Menstruating women are unclean.
20:10-16 Death penalty for homosexuality and various sexual
transgressions.
21:7 Priests must not marry prostitutes or divorcees.
21:9 Burn daughters.
21:13-14 Priest must marry virgin, not "used" woman.
NUMBERS
1:2 Census lists only men - women do not count.
5:11-31 Fidelity test for women only.
30:1-16 Woman's vow invalid unless approved by her father or
husband.
31:17-18 Kill all except virgins. Keep virgins for yourselves.
CH 12 Miriam punished for rebuking Moses.
DEUTERONOMY
20:14 Take women, livestock as plunder.
22:13-21 Stone non-virgin bride.
22:23-24 Stone rapist and rape victim.
22:28 Rape victim must marry rapist; rape victim's father
compensated for
depreciation of his property.
25:11-12 Cut woman's hand for touching foe's penis.
24:1-5 Man can "send" wife from HIS house. Man must not marry
"used" woman.
28:18 The FRUIT of your womb will be cursed - eclectic "pro-
life" verse!
JUDGES
5:30 Women are spoils of war.
14:20 Samson gives wife to another man.
16:1 Samson visits prostitute.
CH 19 Concubine pack-raped and butchered.
21:10-12 Slaughtered all inc. women and children. Saved virgins
for wives.
21:21 Abducted girls for wives.
RUTH
Ruth shags Boaz.
1 SAMUEL
15:2-3 Attack Amalekites, kill men, women, children and
livestock.
22:19 Kill all inc. infants and livestock.
21:4-5 Men avoid defilement with women.
2 SAMUEL
5:13 David took many wives and concubines.
CH 13 Ammon rapes his own sister.
16:21-22 Absalom sleeps with his father's concubines.
6:20-23 Mischal punished with bareness.
1 KINGS
11:3 Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.
2 KINGS
9:30-37 Brutal murder of Jezebel.
2 CHRONICLES
15:13 Put to death unbelievers.
11:21 Hoards of wives and concubines.
ESTHER
CH 1-2 Queen Vashti dethroned for disobedience; setting "bad"
example to all
other women.
PSALMS
51:5 Sinful since conception.
127:3 Sons are heritage from god.
137:9 Seizes infants and dashes them against rocks.
PROVERBS
CH 5 Beware of wicked women!
CH 7 More of the above.
6:24 As above.
31:3 Do not waste strength on women.
ISAIAH
3:16-26 Lord punishes haughty women.
4:4 Filthy women.
13:16 Ravish wives, dash infants.
19:16 Will be like women! (insult to Egyptians)
EZEKIEL
9:6-7 Slaughter all including children.
CH 16 Prostitutes, stoning, promiscuity...
CH 23 Tale of two adulterous sisters - reads like the script of a
pornographic film. I bet you weren't told this story at Sunday
school!
HOSEA
13:16 Rip pregnant women, dash little ones. (Another "pro-life"
verse!)
NAHUM
3:4... wanton lust of a harlot... prostitution... witchcraft.
3:5 I will lift your skirts over your face!
3:13... Your troops are all women. (insult to Nineveh)
MATTHEW
5:32Husband can divorce wife for adultery. Can wife divorce
husband for the
same?
CH 25 Sexist tale of ten virgins.
LUKE
2:22 Mary must be purified after birth of Jesus.
2:49 Jesus rebukes his mother.
I CORINTHIANS
11:2-10... Woman created for man.
14:34 Women must be silent in churches.
EPHESIANS
5:22-24 Wives must submit to husbands in everything.
COLOSSIANS
3:18 Wives submit to husbands.
3:22 Slaves must obey masters in everything.
I TIMOTHY
2:11-15 Woman must not have authority…she must be silent. Women
can be saved
with childbearing.
5:9-10 Widows should be faithful to husband and must wash
saints' feet.
1 PETER
2:18 Slaves submit to masters, even masters who are harsh.
3:1 Wives submit.
3:5-6 Sarah calls husband master.
REVELATION
CH 17 Destroy great prostitute.
14:4...they did not DEFILE themselves with women but kept
themselves pure.
NOTMAN, PEACE :)
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hey NOT MAN Bradlin Posted at: 03/22/03 (0)
Re: could it be true, why yes its in the bible, look for
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: Despite apologists attempts to "white-wash" the bible with a
litany of
excuses, it does not change the fact that the bible is anti
women.
: I urge you not to take my word for it but to check it out
yourself. Here
are some more biblical "gems" to look up:
: GENESIS
: 2:22 Eve created from Adam's rib.
: 3:16 Cursed with painful childbirth and domination by husband.
: 4:17 Cain marries sister?
: 4:19 Man marries two wives.
: 12:13-19 Abraham prostitutes wife.
: 19:1-8 Rape virgin daughters instead of male angels.
: 19:26 Lot's wife turned into pillar of salt for disobeying god.
: 19:30-38 Lot impregnates his two daughters while drunk. (So
much for
"family values"!)
: 20:2-12 Abraham prostitutes wife - again.
: 25:1-6 Keeping many concubines is OK.
:
: EXODUS
: 20:17 Wife as property.
: 21:4 Wife and children belong to master.
: 21:7-11 OK to sell daughters. Female slaves can be used for
sex.
: Polygamy permitted. Unwanted female slaves can be set "free"
without
payment of money.
: 22:18 Kill witches.
:
: LEVITICUS
: 12:1 Childbirth a sin, Women unclean after childbirth.
: 15:19-32 Menstruating women are unclean.
: 20:10-16 Death penalty for homosexuality and various sexual
transgressions.
: 21:7 Priests must not marry prostitutes or divorcees.
: 21:9 Burn daughters.
: 21:13-14 Priest must marry virgin, not "used" woman.
:
: NUMBERS
: 1:2 Census lists only men - women do not count.
: 5:11-31 Fidelity test for women only.
: 30:1-16 Woman's vow invalid unless approved by her father or
husband.
: 31:17-18 Kill all except virgins. Keep virgins for yourselves.
: CH 12 Miriam punished for rebuking Moses.
:
: DEUTERONOMY
: 20:14 Take women, livestock as plunder.
: 22:13-21 Stone non-virgin bride.
: 22:23-24 Stone rapist and rape victim.
: 22:28 Rape victim must marry rapist; rape victim's father
compensated for
depreciation of his property.
: 25:11-12 Cut woman's hand for touching foe's penis.
: 24:1-5 Man can "send" wife from HIS house. Man must not marry
"used"
woman.
: 28:18 The FRUIT of your womb will be cursed - eclectic "pro-
life" verse!
:
: JUDGES
: 5:30 Women are spoils of war.
: 14:20 Samson gives wife to another man.
: 16:1 Samson visits prostitute.
: CH 19 Concubine pack-raped and butchered.
: 21:10-12 Slaughtered all inc. women and children. Saved
virgins for wives.
: 21:21 Abducted girls for wives.
:
: RUTH
: Ruth shags Boaz.
: 1 SAMUEL
: 15:2-3 Attack Amalekites, kill men, women, children and
livestock.
: 22:19 Kill all inc. infants and livestock.
: 21:4-5 Men avoid defilement with women.
:
: 2 SAMUEL
: 5:13 David took many wives and concubines.
: CH 13 Ammon rapes his own sister.
: 16:21-22 Absalom sleeps with his father's concubines.
: 6:20-23 Mischal punished with bareness.
:
: 1 KINGS
: 11:3 Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.
:
: 2 KINGS
: 9:30-37 Brutal murder of Jezebel.
:
: 2 CHRONICLES
: 15:13 Put to death unbelievers.
: 11:21 Hoards of wives and concubines.
:
: ESTHER
: CH 1-2 Queen Vashti dethroned for disobedience; setting "bad"
example to
all other women.
:
: PSALMS
: 51:5 Sinful since conception.
: 127:3 Sons are heritage from god.
: 137:9 Seizes infants and dashes them against rocks.
:
: PROVERBS
: CH 5 Beware of wicked women!
: CH 7 More of the above.
: 6:24 As above.
: 31:3 Do not waste strength on women.
:
: ISAIAH
: 3:16-26 Lord punishes haughty women.
: 4:4 Filthy women.
: 13:16 Ravish wives, dash infants.
: 19:16 Will be like women! (insult to Egyptians)
:
: EZEKIEL
: 9:6-7 Slaughter all including children.
: CH 16 Prostitutes, stoning, promiscuity...
: CH 23 Tale of two adulterous sisters - reads like the script
of a
pornographic film. I bet you weren't told this story at Sunday
school!
:
: HOSEA
: 13:16 Rip pregnant women, dash little ones. (Another "pro-
life" verse!)
:
: NAHUM
: 3:4... wanton lust of a harlot... prostitution... witchcraft.
: 3:5 I will lift your skirts over your face!
: 3:13... Your troops are all women. (insult to Nineveh)
:
: MATTHEW
: 5:32Husband can divorce wife for adultery. Can wife divorce
husband for
the same?
: CH 25 Sexist tale of ten virgins.
:
: LUKE
: 2:22 Mary must be purified after birth of Jesus.
: 2:49 Jesus rebukes his mother.
:
: I CORINTHIANS
: 11:2-10... Woman created for man.
: 14:34 Women must be silent in churches.
:
: EPHESIANS
: 5:22-24 Wives must submit to husbands in everything.
:
: COLOSSIANS
: 3:18 Wives submit to husbands.
: 3:22 Slaves must obey masters in everything.
:
: I TIMOTHY
: 2:11-15 Woman must not have authority…she must be silent.
Women can be
saved with childbearing.
: 5:9-10 Widows should be faithful to husband and must wash
saints' feet.
:
: 1 PETER
: 2:18 Slaves submit to masters, even masters who are harsh.
: 3:1 Wives submit.
: 3:5-6 Sarah calls husband master.
:
: REVELATION
: CH 17 Destroy great prostitute.
: 14:4...they did not DEFILE themselves with women but kept
themselves pure.
:
: NOTME, PEACE :)
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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| Title: Re: Is the bible anti-woman? |
08 Dec 2005 10:16:05 PM |
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(JehovahsMessenger) wrote in
news:IGNGLBT738694.952650463@twistycreek.com:
Subject: Could it be true, why yes, it's in the bible, look for
yourself.
Every primative culture devalues women and children. When physical stength
is the only attribute that matters, what would you expect?
In the modern world, where physical strength is far less important, and
those who make their living are dominated by those who *think* for a
living, women become more valuable. I predict that no society will prosper
in the future if it does not allow the fullest use of all its talents.
Repressive societies essentially lobotomize themselves.
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ULC, Modesto, CA
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| User: "Delila" |
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| Title: Re: Is the bible anti-woman? |
05 Jan 2006 08:05:24 PM |
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"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
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Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (JehovahsMessenger) wrote in
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Subject: Could it be true, why yes, it's in the bible, look for
yourself.
Every primative culture devalues women and children. When physical
stength
is the only attribute that matters, what would you expect?
In the modern world, where physical strength is far less important, and
those who make their living are dominated by those who *think* for a
living, women become more valuable. I predict that no society will
prosper
in the future if it does not allow the fullest use of all its talents.
Repressive societies essentially lobotomize themselves.
Yes, that's why African countries and most Asian countries are so poor.
Until they wake up and start empowering their girls and women with education
and rights, nothing will change for them.
D.
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| User: "R. Pierce Butler" |
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| Title: Re: Is the bible anti-woman? |
05 Jan 2006 08:07:31 PM |
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"Delila" <WATERTIGER9NO@SPAMpeoplepc.com> wrote in
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"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
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Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (JehovahsMessenger) wrote in
news:IGNGLBT738694.952650463@twistycreek.com:
Subject: Could it be true, why yes, it's in the bible, look for
yourself.
Every primative culture devalues women and children. When physical
stength
is the only attribute that matters, what would you expect?
In the modern world, where physical strength is far less important,
and those who make their living are dominated by those who *think*
for a living, women become more valuable. I predict that no society
will
prosper
in the future if it does not allow the fullest use of all its
talents. Repressive societies essentially lobotomize themselves.
Yes, that's why African countries and most Asian countries are so
poor.
Until they wake up and start empowering their girls and women with
education and rights, nothing will change for them.
D.
I would love to see a sane, educated, rational woman take the presidency.
Hell, I would even vote for a sane, educated, rational man.
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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| Title: Re: Is the bible anti-woman? |
09 Dec 2005 01:49:58 AM |
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"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
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Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (JehovahsMessenger) wrote in
news:IGNGLBT738694.952650463@twistycreek.com:
Subject: Could it be true, why yes, it's in the bible, look for
yourself.
Every primative culture devalues women and children. When physical
stength
is the only attribute that matters, what would you expect?
But why did this great Jehovah god have them treat women so cruelly, like
women were animals, like livestock? The only sensible answer is there
either is no god (makes the most sense) or their god is a misogynist. When
anyone studies the bible the "teacher" never covers the abominable way women
were treated in the OT.
In the modern world, where physical strength is far less important, and
those who make their living are dominated by those who *think* for a
living, women become more valuable. I predict that no society will
prosper
in the future if it does not allow the fullest use of all its talents.
Repressive societies essentially lobotomize themselves.
This is true. I believe some cults and sects would still treat women as
they did in the OT if they could get away with it - and in some countries
they do! Hey, it's approved by GOD so it must be right!!!!.
CR.........
The JWs showed their true colors
here by posting people's personal information in hopes someone sicker than
there are "takes care of the problem" and silences the person. There is no
other reason to post personal information on Usenet.
See: (Message-ID: <928697419.540.40@news.remarQ.com>#1/1)
This JW posted his own personal information on the net and blamed Carol.
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