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User: "Gospel"
Date: 06 Oct 2004 02:31:30 PM
Object: Is the Bible Reliable?
Bob and Gretchen Passantino
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Doubts about the Bible range from how it is translated, what was meant
by the writers, how the text was preserved, how books were included or
excluded, and its truthfulness. Each of these topics is complex, but
there is ample evidence to affirm the Bible's complete reliability.
Bible Translations
Reputable Bible translations[1] are produced by careful scholarship in
textual criticism, linguistics, translation, grammar, vocabulary, style,
and history. Various texts of the original language Testaments (Hebrew
and Aramaic of the Old Testament and Greek of the New Testament) are
published and generally available, along with documented accounts of how
the texts were derived from existing copies over time.
Linguistic scholars work together, ensuring that the original languages
are understood and translated accurately into the receptor language.
Grammarians and specialists in vocabulary, style, and history are
consulted as well.
Some translations, such as the New American Standard, favor "formal
equivalence," preserving much of the original language structure and
vocabulary equivalence. Sometimes readers have difficulty understanding
a culturally, linguistically, or historically unique statement with no
close English parallel. Other translations, such as the New
International Version, combine formal equivalence with "dynamic
equivalence" for culturally or historically obscure texts. Paul talks of
the "sinful flesh" in a cultural and religious context that associates
"flesh" with sacrifices, but in our culture is more readily understood
as "sin nature" (Romans 7:18 NIV).
Whether you prefer the literary beauty of the New King James, the
complexities of the New American Standard, the concise clarity of the
New International, or some other reputable translation, the text of the
Bible we have today is essentially what was written.[2]
How We Got Our Bible
The Bible is a collection of sixty-six books composed under inspiration
of the Holy Spirit by many authors over almost 1500 years throughout the
Middle East. Authors include adopted Egyptian nobility (Moses), a
shepherd (David), a Babylonian official (Daniel), a tax collector
(Matthew), a doctor (Luke), a philosopher/rabbi (Paul), and a fisherman
(Peter). The Bible includes poetry, history, government records,
prophecy, dialogue, parables, sermons, letters, and religious
instructions. The Bible is written in three languages, Hebrew (Old
Testament), Aramaic (part of Daniel), and Greek (New Testament). Despite
this diversity, the Bible has been remarkably preserved, contains no
contradictions, and is widely supported by history, archaeology,
science, and philosophy.
As the books of the Bible were composed, they were recognized by God's
people (first the Jews regarding the Old Testament, then the Christians,
who also recognized the New Testament books) as God's Word. The books
were tested according to the following principles:[3]
1. The book must be written by a person of God (e.g., a prophet, an
apostle, a trusted associate of an apostle, etc.).
2. The writer and writings must be confirmed by facts and the acts
of God (e.g., Moses said a prophet whose prophecy did not come true was
a false prophet -- Deuteronomy 18:18-21, etc.).
3. The book must come with the power of God. Application produces
godly transformation in believers' lives (Hebrews 4:12; 2 Timothy 3:17,
etc.).
4. The book must be accepted by the people of God initially (see
Peter call Paul's words "scripture" in 2 Peter 3:15-16) and over time
(before the second half of the second century all of the main churches
in the Roman empire accepted at least the four gospels, the Acts of the
apostles, and Paul's writings as scripture[4]).
At the beginning of the fourth century the Christian churches generally
agreed on which books composed the Bible and which books were excluded.
This was the earliest time such a question had general significance.
Emperor Diocletian Galerius decreed that Christians were to be
persecuted and their scriptures burned. It was a matter of life and
death to determine which books one would risk martyrdom for. By the end
of the fourth century the Bible as we know it was formally recognized by
all Christian churches.[5] It is important to note that the church
recognized the scriptures, it did not determine or make up scriptures.
For many centuries the texts of the Old and New Testament books were
copied by hand on papyrus, parchment, or vellum in scrolls or in codexes
(books). Professional copyists, or scribes, were meticulous, skilled
workers. Convinced they were copying God's Word, they could not alter it
in any way. The remarkable preservation of the original texts is traced
by comparing our earliest copies of books or portions of books with
those of later centuries. Our oldest copies of Old Testament writings
are from before the time of Christ, and our oldest copies of New
Testament writings may date to before A.D. 70, contemporary with their
composition. In addition, we have citations by other authors,
collections of scriptures used in church services, and versions in other
languages.
Critics point to the absence of the originals to discount the Bible, but
biblical scholars like F. F. Bruce note, "there is no body of ancient
literature in the world which enjoys such a wealth of good textual
attestation as the New Testament." Slight variations among copies do not
obscure the original, Bruce continues, "the wealth of attestation is
such that the true reading is almost bound to be preserved by at least
one of the thousands of witnesses."6 And although the copies of the Old
Testament are fewer, their unique copying standards "give us ground for
greater confidence than might be supposed," confirming "that no serious
changes were introduced into the text of the Old Testament" through the
centuries.[7]
Does the Bible Tell the Truth?
Most disputes about the truthfulness of the Bible can be grouped into
three categories: (1) misunderstandings; (2) ignorance of the facts; (3)
dislike of its teachings.
One example of an interpretive Bible problem is the common
misunderstanding that "God of the Old Testament" is harshly judgmental
while "Jesus of the New Testament" is lovingly forgiving. However, the
God of the Bible is consistent from Genesis to Revelation in bringing
judgment against unrepentant sin and forgiveness to those who repent.
Ezekiel 18 explains, "Is my way unjust? Is it not your ways that are
unjust? If a righteous man turns from his righteousness and commits sin,
he will die for it. . . . But if a wicked man turns away from the
wickedness he has committed and does what is just and right, he will
save his life. . . . I will judge you, each one according to his ways,
declares the Sovereign Lord. Repent! Turn away from all your offenses
you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. . . . I take
no pleasure in the death of anyone . . . Repent and live!" (vv. 25-32).
Jesus makes the same kind of declaration in Matthew 23, pronouncing
judgment against the Pharisees, calling them "blind fools,"
"hypocrites," "sons of hell," "full of hypocrisy and wickedness,"
"condemned to hell." But his loving desire for them to repent is evident
as well: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone
those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children
together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not
willing" (v. 37).
Interpretive (called hermeneutic in literary terms) problems range from
misunderstanding the type of literature in a passage (confusing poetry
with historical narrative, for example),through vocabulary, to confusing
time and circumstance differences between two events. A good book for
further information is Walter C. Kaiser and Moises Silva's An
Introduction to Biblical Hermeneutics: A Search for Meaning.[8]
Ignorance of the facts concerning the trustworthiness of the Bible can
be embarrassing for critics. For example, for many years doubters
disputed the New Testament accounts concerning Pontius Pilate. No hard
artifact evidence existed confirming his existence and position, and
later extra-biblical historical mention of him and his position was
suspected as having been improperly assumed from the Christian
scriptures and later creeds. Then, in 1961, archaeologists unearthed an
early first century theater inscription at Caesarea Maritima in Israel,
dedicated from "Pontius Pilate, Prefect of Judea," to "Tiberius
Caesar."[9] What the Christians had preserved in scripture and creed had
achieved hard artifact verification nearly 2,000 years later.
Finally, some say they distrust the Bible when they really mean they
don't like or agree with it. However, the Bible has more supporting its
truthfulness than does any critic. The historical and textual evidence
of the resurrection of Christ from the dead, for example, would compel
anyone who did not already discount the existence of God to accept its
reality. When Christ endorses the Bible,[10] the wise man believes the
Bible, even if he dislikes it. After the French Revolution, political
factions attempted unsuccessfully to construct an alternative to
Christianity. One individual complained to the prominent politician
Talleyrand, who had been a bishop before he abandoned his faith.
Talleyrand's response is telling: "Surely, it cannot be so difficult as
you think. . . . The matter is simple: you have only yourself to get
crucified, or anyhow put to death, and then at your own time rise from
the dead, and you will have no difficulty."[11]
1. Translations not meeting these standards are usually produced by
those who deny essential Christian doctrine and modify the Bible
accordingly, ignoring proven standards of language, grammar, vocabulary,
style, and translation.
2. A good resource on this topic is Alan S. Duthie's How to Choose
Your Bible Wisely. Carlisle, UK: Paternoster Press, 1995.
3. Adapted from Norman L. Geisler and William E. Nix's A General
Introduction to the Bible. Chicago: Moody Press, 1986 (revised edition),
pp. 223-234.
4. See Milton Fisher's "The Canon of the New Testament" in Philip
Wesley Comfort, ed. The Origin of the Bible. Wheaton, IL: Tyndale House
Publishers, pp. 69-72.
5. See Earle E. Cairns. Christianity through the Centuries. Grand
Rapids, MI: Zondervan Publishing House, 1981 (revised edition), pp. 93,
118-119.
6. F. F. Bruce. The Books and the Parchments. Old Tappan, NJ:
Fleming H. Revell Company, 1984 revised edition, pp. 168-169.
7. Bruce, The Books, pp. 112-113.
8. Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan Publishing House, 1994.
9. John McRay. Archaeology and the New Testament. Grand Rapids, MI:
Baker Book House, 1991, pp. 203-204.
10. Luke 24:25-27; John 14:26; 15:26; 16:12-15.
11. Quoted in Wilbur M. Smith. Therefore Stand. Grand Rapids, MI:
Baker Book House, 1945, pp. 586-587.
------------------------------------
by Bob and Gretchen Passantino
Copyright 1998 by Bob and Gretchen Passantino
----------------------------------------------
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User: "JPG"

Title: Re: Is the Bible Reliable? 06 Oct 2004 04:50:14 PM
(Ridiculous number of cross-posted groups trimmed)
No.
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User: "B. Kildow"

Title: Re: Is the Bible Reliable? 06 Oct 2004 05:12:26 PM
JPG wrote:

(Ridiculous number of cross-posted groups trimmed)

No.

It does work well to shim up too-short table legs.
BK
AA#1992
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User: "Apostate"

Title: Re: Is the Bible Reliable? 06 Oct 2004 06:43:15 PM
On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 15:12:26 -0700, "B. Kildow" <tracker99@spamenot.foxinternet.net>
wrote:

JPG wrote:

(Ridiculous number of cross-posted groups trimmed)

No.


It does work well to shim up too-short table legs.

Might as well just attach legs to it, and make it a tv dining tray-table.
Emergency napkins included.

BK
AA#1992

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User: "I Report, You Decide"

Title: Re: Is the Bible Reliable? 16 Oct 2004 02:40:04 PM
No, which is why God revealed the Quran.
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"Gospel" <GospelNOSPAM@NOSPAM.NET> wrote in message
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Bob and Gretchen Passantino
-----------------------------------

Doubts about the Bible range from how it is translated, what was meant by
the writers, how the text was preserved, how books were included or
excluded, and its truthfulness. Each of these topics is complex, but there
is ample evidence to affirm the Bible's complete reliability.
Bible Translations

Reputable Bible translations[1] are produced by careful scholarship in
textual criticism, linguistics, translation, grammar, vocabulary, style,
and history. Various texts of the original language Testaments (Hebrew and
Aramaic of the Old Testament and Greek of the New Testament) are published
and generally available, along with documented accounts of how the texts
were derived from existing copies over time.

Linguistic scholars work together, ensuring that the original languages
are understood and translated accurately into the receptor language.
Grammarians and specialists in vocabulary, style, and history are
consulted as well.

Some translations, such as the New American Standard, favor "formal
equivalence," preserving much of the original language structure and
vocabulary equivalence. Sometimes readers have difficulty understanding a
culturally, linguistically, or historically unique statement with no close
English parallel. Other translations, such as the New International
Version, combine formal equivalence with "dynamic equivalence" for
culturally or historically obscure texts. Paul talks of the "sinful flesh"
in a cultural and religious context that associates "flesh" with
sacrifices, but in our culture is more readily understood as "sin nature"
(Romans 7:18 NIV).

Whether you prefer the literary beauty of the New King James, the
complexities of the New American Standard, the concise clarity of the New
International, or some other reputable translation, the text of the Bible
we have today is essentially what was written.[2]
How We Got Our Bible

The Bible is a collection of sixty-six books composed under inspiration of
the Holy Spirit by many authors over almost 1500 years throughout the
Middle East. Authors include adopted Egyptian nobility (Moses), a shepherd
(David), a Babylonian official (Daniel), a tax collector (Matthew), a
doctor (Luke), a philosopher/rabbi (Paul), and a fisherman (Peter). The
Bible includes poetry, history, government records, prophecy, dialogue,
parables, sermons, letters, and religious instructions. The Bible is
written in three languages, Hebrew (Old Testament), Aramaic (part of
Daniel), and Greek (New Testament). Despite this diversity, the Bible has
been remarkably preserved, contains no contradictions, and is widely
supported by history, archaeology, science, and philosophy.

As the books of the Bible were composed, they were recognized by God's
people (first the Jews regarding the Old Testament, then the Christians,
who also recognized the New Testament books) as God's Word. The books were
tested according to the following principles:[3]

1. The book must be written by a person of God (e.g., a prophet, an
apostle, a trusted associate of an apostle, etc.).
2. The writer and writings must be confirmed by facts and the acts of
God (e.g., Moses said a prophet whose prophecy did not come true was a
false prophet -- Deuteronomy 18:18-21, etc.).
3. The book must come with the power of God. Application produces godly
transformation in believers' lives (Hebrews 4:12; 2 Timothy 3:17, etc.).
4. The book must be accepted by the people of God initially (see Peter
call Paul's words "scripture" in 2 Peter 3:15-16) and over time (before
the second half of the second century all of the main churches in the
Roman empire accepted at least the four gospels, the Acts of the apostles,
and Paul's writings as scripture[4]).

At the beginning of the fourth century the Christian churches generally
agreed on which books composed the Bible and which books were excluded.
This was the earliest time such a question had general significance.
Emperor Diocletian Galerius decreed that Christians were to be persecuted
and their scriptures burned. It was a matter of life and death to
determine which books one would risk martyrdom for. By the end of the
fourth century the Bible as we know it was formally recognized by all
Christian churches.[5] It is important to note that the church recognized
the scriptures, it did not determine or make up scriptures.

For many centuries the texts of the Old and New Testament books were
copied by hand on papyrus, parchment, or vellum in scrolls or in codexes
(books). Professional copyists, or scribes, were meticulous, skilled
workers. Convinced they were copying God's Word, they could not alter it
in any way. The remarkable preservation of the original texts is traced by
comparing our earliest copies of books or portions of books with those of
later centuries. Our oldest copies of Old Testament writings are from
before the time of Christ, and our oldest copies of New Testament writings
may date to before A.D. 70, contemporary with their composition. In
addition, we have citations by other authors, collections of scriptures
used in church services, and versions in other languages.

Critics point to the absence of the originals to discount the Bible, but
biblical scholars like F. F. Bruce note, "there is no body of ancient
literature in the world which enjoys such a wealth of good textual
attestation as the New Testament." Slight variations among copies do not
obscure the original, Bruce continues, "the wealth of attestation is such
that the true reading is almost bound to be preserved by at least one of
the thousands of witnesses."6 And although the copies of the Old Testament
are fewer, their unique copying standards "give us ground for greater
confidence than might be supposed," confirming "that no serious changes
were introduced into the text of the Old Testament" through the
centuries.[7]
Does the Bible Tell the Truth?

Most disputes about the truthfulness of the Bible can be grouped into
three categories: (1) misunderstandings; (2) ignorance of the facts; (3)
dislike of its teachings.

One example of an interpretive Bible problem is the common
misunderstanding that "God of the Old Testament" is harshly judgmental
while "Jesus of the New Testament" is lovingly forgiving. However, the God
of the Bible is consistent from Genesis to Revelation in bringing judgment
against unrepentant sin and forgiveness to those who repent.

Ezekiel 18 explains, "Is my way unjust? Is it not your ways that are
unjust? If a righteous man turns from his righteousness and commits sin,
he will die for it. . . . But if a wicked man turns away from the
wickedness he has committed and does what is just and right, he will save
his life. . . . I will judge you, each one according to his ways, declares
the Sovereign Lord. Repent! Turn away from all your offenses you have
committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. . . . I take no pleasure
in the death of anyone . . . Repent and live!" (vv. 25-32).

Jesus makes the same kind of declaration in Matthew 23, pronouncing
judgment against the Pharisees, calling them "blind fools," "hypocrites,"
"sons of hell," "full of hypocrisy and wickedness," "condemned to hell."
But his loving desire for them to repent is evident as well: "O Jerusalem,
Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how
often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her
chicks under her wings, but you were not willing" (v. 37).

Interpretive (called hermeneutic in literary terms) problems range from
misunderstanding the type of literature in a passage (confusing poetry
with historical narrative, for example),through vocabulary, to confusing
time and circumstance differences between two events. A good book for
further information is Walter C. Kaiser and Moises Silva's An Introduction
to Biblical Hermeneutics: A Search for Meaning.[8]

Ignorance of the facts concerning the trustworthiness of the Bible can be
embarrassing for critics. For example, for many years doubters disputed
the New Testament accounts concerning Pontius Pilate. No hard artifact
evidence existed confirming his existence and position, and later
extra-biblical historical mention of him and his position was suspected as
having been improperly assumed from the Christian scriptures and later
creeds. Then, in 1961, archaeologists unearthed an early first century
theater inscription at Caesarea Maritima in Israel, dedicated from
"Pontius Pilate, Prefect of Judea," to "Tiberius Caesar."[9] What the
Christians had preserved in scripture and creed had achieved hard artifact
verification nearly 2,000 years later.

Finally, some say they distrust the Bible when they really mean they don't
like or agree with it. However, the Bible has more supporting its
truthfulness than does any critic. The historical and textual evidence of
the resurrection of Christ from the dead, for example, would compel anyone
who did not already discount the existence of God to accept its reality.
When Christ endorses the Bible,[10] the wise man believes the Bible, even
if he dislikes it. After the French Revolution, political factions
attempted unsuccessfully to construct an alternative to Christianity. One
individual complained to the prominent politician Talleyrand, who had been
a bishop before he abandoned his faith. Talleyrand's response is telling:
"Surely, it cannot be so difficult as you think. . . . The matter is
simple: you have only yourself to get crucified, or anyhow put to death,
and then at your own time rise from the dead, and you will have no
difficulty."[11]

1. Translations not meeting these standards are usually produced by
those who deny essential Christian doctrine and modify the Bible
accordingly, ignoring proven standards of language, grammar, vocabulary,
style, and translation.
2. A good resource on this topic is Alan S. Duthie's How to Choose Your
Bible Wisely. Carlisle, UK: Paternoster Press, 1995.
3. Adapted from Norman L. Geisler and William E. Nix's A General
Introduction to the Bible. Chicago: Moody Press, 1986 (revised edition),
pp. 223-234.
4. See Milton Fisher's "The Canon of the New Testament" in Philip
Wesley Comfort, ed. The Origin of the Bible. Wheaton, IL: Tyndale House
Publishers, pp. 69-72.
5. See Earle E. Cairns. Christianity through the Centuries. Grand
Rapids, MI: Zondervan Publishing House, 1981 (revised edition), pp. 93,
118-119.
6. F. F. Bruce. The Books and the Parchments. Old Tappan, NJ: Fleming
H. Revell Company, 1984 revised edition, pp. 168-169.
7. Bruce, The Books, pp. 112-113.
8. Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan Publishing House, 1994.
9. John McRay. Archaeology and the New Testament. Grand Rapids, MI:
Baker Book House, 1991, pp. 203-204.
10. Luke 24:25-27; John 14:26; 15:26; 16:12-15.
11. Quoted in Wilbur M. Smith. Therefore Stand. Grand Rapids, MI: Baker
Book House, 1945, pp. 586-587.

------------------------------------
by Bob and Gretchen Passantino
Copyright 1998 by Bob and Gretchen Passantino
----------------------------------------------

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User: "Jez"

Title: Re: Is the Bible Reliable? 17 Oct 2004 09:49:48 AM
I Report, You Decide wrote:

No, which is why God revealed the Quran.

ROFLMAO !
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notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
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User: "Peter van Velzen"

Title: Re: Is the Bible Reliable? 17 Oct 2004 02:08:28 PM
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message news:<LN2dnW9YT9ZaG-_cRVnyug@pipex.net>...

I Report, You Decide wrote:

No, which is why God revealed the Quran.

ROFLMAO !

--
Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn

Skype callto://hellward

And so I recall reading in th Quran that both the Thora (Genesis thru
Jozua) and the Gospel (all four) are reliable.
Of course te Arabs recall the words of Muhammed,
may have had a bad memory:)
Peter van Velzen
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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User: "I Report, You Decide"

Title: Re: Is the Bible Reliable? 18 Oct 2004 01:57:14 AM
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I Report, You Decide wrote:

No, which is why God revealed the Quran.

ROFLMAO !

--
Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable notion
that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often led to
accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what that
reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be skeptical of
someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn

Skype callto://hellward

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User: "Jez"

Title: Re: Is the Bible Reliable? 21 Oct 2004 03:06:23 PM
I Report, You Decide wrote:

You submit to the truth? It is duly noted.

Who's truth ?
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'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
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User: "I love Edsels"

Title: Re: Is the Bible Reliable? 17 Oct 2004 11:29:41 AM
as reliable as the first Hyundais were.
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:49:48 +0100, Jez
<iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:

I Report, You Decide wrote:

No, which is why God revealed the Quran.

ROFLMAO !

.



User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Is the Bible Reliable? 06 Oct 2004 07:24:12 PM
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User: "raven1"

Title: Re: Is the Bible Reliable? 06 Oct 2004 03:15:26 PM
On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 19:31:30 GMT, Gospel <GospelNOSPAM@NOSPAM.NET>
wrote:

The Bible is a collection of sixty-six books composed under inspiration
of the Holy Spirit

You left out your evidence that this "Holy Spirit" actually exists,
and omit the fact that Christians don't all agree on whether it's a
personage in a trinity, or simply an impersonal force of God, which
you haven't shown exists either

by many authors over almost 1500 years throughout the
Middle East. Authors include adopted Egyptian nobility (Moses), a
shepherd (David), a Babylonian official (Daniel), a tax collector
(Matthew), a doctor (Luke), a philosopher/rabbi (Paul), and a fisherman
(Peter).

You mean "alleged authors". No one knows who actually wrote any of the
books attributed to the authors above, and Moses is wildly unlikely to
have written the Pentateuch, considering that he dies in it.

The Bible includes poetry, history, government records,
prophecy, dialogue, parables, sermons, letters, and religious
instructions.

So what?

The Bible is written in three languages, Hebrew (Old
Testament), Aramaic (part of Daniel), and Greek (New Testament).

So what?

Despite
this diversity, the Bible has been remarkably preserved,

So what?

contains no
contradictions,

Absolute rubbish.
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.html

and is widely supported by history,

Citations?

archaeology,

The historical existence of the city of Troy does nothing to support
the notion that Eris rolled a golden apple inscribed "Kallistae" into
a banquet hall on Olympus to set the Trojan War in motion. Do you
catch my meaning?

science,

Rubbish. Every time the Bible touches on an area involving science, it
gets it flat-out wrong.

and philosophy.

So what?
.

User: "towelie"

Title: Re: Is the Bible Reliable? 06 Oct 2004 07:20:16 PM
TV's Gospel wrote:
If the Bible were a car, I wouldn't trust it to make it across the street.
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