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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "J Young"
Date: 17 Dec 2006 06:55:26 PM
Object: Is there 1 white man who has any courage?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53388
By Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson
Why are white Americans afraid to speak truth to black Americans?
Let me start with a tale of two Michaels:
Michael Richards, the "Seinfeld" co-star who lashed out at a black
heckler, repeatedly calling the man a "ni---r," has since made numerous
apologies to black Americans.
He apologized on David Letterman's "Late Show" - but that forum
wasn't "black enough" - so Richards was forced to grovel on Jesse
Jackson's radio show.
The black man Richards insulted has retained Gloria Allred. Next month,
he will express his contrition in front of a retired judge who will
determine how much money Richards should dole out for hurling the "N"
word.
Then there's the Nov. 25 shooting in New York City, where NYPD officers
shot Sean Bell, a 23-year-old black man outside a strip club in Queens
when he tried to ram an officer with his car. The incident has outraged
Rev. Al Sharpton ("the Riot King") and other black leaders.
Sharpton is threatening to lead a massive pre-Christmas march along
Manhattan's Fifth Avenue - stating, "We're going shopping for justice
this Christmas."
Let's not forget that Sharpton gave us the Tawana Brawley hoax and
provoked the Crown Heights riot in the Hasidic (Jewish) section of
Brooklyn.
Why should anyone listen to this hypocrite?
After the police shooting, Michael (the other Michael) Bloomberg, the
mayor of NYC, met with Sharpton and other black racist agitators and
prematurely criticized the deadly shooting, calling it "inexplicable"
and "unacceptable." Can you say "cave"?
What has happened to white men in this country?
White men used to be tough. John Wayne, Charlton Heston and Ronald
Reagan exemplified a strong male image. But because of the successful
attack - by secular progressives like NOW (National Organization of
Women who Hate Men), the ACLU, homosexual groups and liberal black
leaders - most white males have been emasculated.
Years of scapegoating and charges of racism have intimidated whites to
the point that they no longer speak out on issues concerning race and
morality.
After Dr. King's assassination in 1968, Jesse Jackson showed up in
front of the news cameras holding a bloody sweater. This is all it took
for him to be promoted by the elite media as the "heir apparent" to
King.
This despite Jackson's repeated falling out with Dr. King's
organization, the SCLC (Southern Christian Leadership Conference).
In 1971, Ralph Abernathy, King's successor at SCLC, suspended Jackson
for "administrative improprieties and repeated acts of violation of
organizational policy." Jackson then left the group and started
Operation PUSH.
The mainstream media keep wicked black leaders like Jackson in power.
Whenever there's a racial issue in this country Jackson or Sharpton are
on the airwaves to "blame whitey."
The media and false black leaders succeeded in changing the allegiance
of many black Americans - from a pro-family, pro-God people to a
government-dependant people as we witnessed during Katrina.
White people are angry at Jackson and the phony civil-rights leaders
who have made a living off of blaming them for the problems of blacks.
And they're angry about the double standard when it comes to racial
issues - and for not being allowed to openly express their
disagreements with blacks.
But they remain silent.
This has resulted in the phenomenon of white fear - fear of
criticizing blacks - no matter how corrupt, immoral or evil the
perpetrator.
Since whites are not allowed to express themselves, they either cower
down like Michael Bloomberg, or they lash out in anger like Michael
Richards. Then Jesse Jackson swoops in and points to the overreaction
as evidence of white racism - to exploit the situation for profit.
White Americans need to stand up for truth with strength and patience.
If we can find white people with courage, we can change this country
- and the tale of two Michaels would have a happy ending.
What is courage? Well, I can tell you what courage is not: 1) Courage
is not resenting blacks and complaining to your white friends behind
closed doors. 2) It's not tolerating black misconduct, and 3) Courage
is not adopting the divisive, politically correct term "African
American."
As for black Americans, they need to repudiate their "leaders" and let
go of past grievances, lest they self-destruct.
It will take decent whites and blacks to come together to live out the
promise of Dr. King's dream. Then, America will finally become the land
of the free and the home of the brave!
.

User: "Lobby Dosser"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 18 Dec 2006 06:45:21 AM
Don Homuth <dhomuth1@comcast.net> wrote:

On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 04:38:09 GMT, Sam Brown <xxx@nospam.net> wrote:

The resurgence of native cultural schooling, facilties and rituals
funded by the oldest sport all native peoples were reported to be
skilled in is gratifying to say the least - bravo to all the nations
who have discerned that our greed and addictive tendencies might
render us prone to a good casino fleecing, all in good fun mind you,
LOL!

Well played gentlemen!


It's a Good Thing indeed!

Now if we can just keep the White Eyes out of the business for a while
longer, then the business of Sitting Bull's Revenge will be complete.

And we haven't yet discussed the return of the Black Hills and the
reparations for the mismanagement and theft of natural resources on
Native American lands.

Just gotta get them Native American Lawyers through law school. Which
is where some of the casino profit is going.

And some of it is going into nearby non NA communities. Don't know that I
would be that gracious.
.

User: "Pangur Ban"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 18 Dec 2006 07:03:45 AM
Don Homuth expressed precisely :

On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 04:38:09 GMT, Sam Brown <xxx@nospam.net> wrote:

The resurgence of native cultural schooling, facilties and rituals
funded by the oldest sport all native peoples were reported to be
skilled in is gratifying to say the least - bravo to all the nations who
have discerned that our greed and addictive tendencies might render us
prone to a good casino fleecing, all in good fun mind you, LOL!

Well played gentlemen!

It's a Good Thing indeed!
Now if we can just keep the White Eyes out of the business for a while
longer, then the business of Sitting Bull's Revenge will be complete.
And we haven't yet discussed the return of the Black Hills and the
reparations for the mismanagement and theft of natural resources on
Native American lands.

An ongoing issue here ... the land and water poisoned by uranium
mining.

Just gotta get them Native American Lawyers through law school. Which
is where some of the casino profit is going.

Can't think of a better expenditure right now...
--
Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist
.

User: "Sam Brown"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 18 Dec 2006 12:10:11 AM
Don Homuth wrote:

On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 04:38:09 GMT, Sam Brown <xxx@nospam.net> wrote:

The resurgence of native cultural schooling, facilties and rituals
funded by the oldest sport all native peoples were reported to be
skilled in is gratifying to say the least - bravo to all the nations who
have discerned that our greed and addictive tendencies might render us
prone to a good casino fleecing, all in good fun mind you, LOL!

Well played gentlemen!


It's a Good Thing indeed!

Now if we can just keep the White Eyes out of the business for a while
longer, then the business of Sitting Bull's Revenge will be complete.

And we haven't yet discussed the return of the Black Hills and the
reparations

End of delusion - next!
.

User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 17 Dec 2006 11:28:11 PM
Sam Brown <xxx@nospam.net> writes:

Pangur Ban wrote:

Merovingian submitted this idea :

Pangur Ban wrote:

[...]

Native Americans are taking back America? :-)

--
Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist

uh...before you laugh about the prospect of Native americans taking
back America.

Wasn't laughing!

You need to see the person who signs the checks at the
majority of the casinos.

I live in casino country ...

They have begun an agressive move to aquire
financial gain, and they can buy back their claims if they continue to
be as successful as they have been.

I am just pleased to see their investments in good medical facilities, new
up-to-date schools, modern fire fighting equipment, well equipped tribal
police (even if I did get my first ever speeding ticket from one), excellent
Senior Citizen centers, good housing (some of the res "homes" were truly
third world and in areas without casinos still are), etc. I saw a
performance by a group of senior citizen ladies ... a mixed group; they
don't discriminate. I've read of their increased interest in preserving the
acheological sites on their land.

You could end up on their
reservation if people dont stop bettin on the pony's. Money talks in
Washington.

I have two reservation bordering my area now. I'm not worried. I carry a
medicine bag - hand made by me - with a turtle totem on it. :-)

The resurgence of native cultural schooling, facilties and rituals funded by
the oldest sport all native peoples were reported to be skilled in is
gratifying to say the least - bravo to all the nations who have discerned that
our greed and addictive tendencies might render us prone to a good casino
fleecing, all in good fun mind you, LOL!

Well, I spent most of my first decade in Oklahoma rubbing elbows with a few
Creeks, the occasional Osage, and a number of Cherokees - and though I haven't
lived there since the mid-1960s, I'm glad to see the natives are making a
better deal for themselves. In some parts of northeast Oklahoma, that's one
of the few signs of economic expansion. (Same goes for the tribes here in
southeast Texas/southwest Louisiana, except that they're still recovering from
Katrina *and* Rita.)

Well played gentlemen!

Pangur will no doubt be amused to educate you as to *her* gender.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 3, Manitoba 1 (December 16)
NEXT GAME: Friday, December 22 vs. Chicago, 7:35
.
User: "Pangur Ban"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 18 Dec 2006 06:58:22 AM
The Chief Instigator explained :

Sam Brown <xxx@nospam.net> writes:

Pangur Ban wrote:

Merovingian submitted this idea :

Pangur Ban wrote:

[...]

Native Americans are taking back America? :-)

--
Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist

uh...before you laugh about the prospect of Native americans taking
back America.

Wasn't laughing!

You need to see the person who signs the checks at the
majority of the casinos.

I live in casino country ...

They have begun an agressive move to aquire
financial gain, and they can buy back their claims if they continue to
be as successful as they have been.

I am just pleased to see their investments in good medical facilities, new
up-to-date schools, modern fire fighting equipment, well equipped tribal
police (even if I did get my first ever speeding ticket from one),
excellent Senior Citizen centers, good housing (some of the res "homes"
were truly third world and in areas without casinos still are), etc. I saw
a performance by a group of senior citizen ladies ... a mixed group; they
don't discriminate. I've read of their increased interest in preserving
the acheological sites on their land.

You could end up on their
reservation if people dont stop bettin on the pony's. Money talks in
Washington.

I have two reservation bordering my area now. I'm not worried. I carry a
medicine bag - hand made by me - with a turtle totem on it. :-)

The resurgence of native cultural schooling, facilties and rituals funded by
the oldest sport all native peoples were reported to be skilled in is
gratifying to say the least - bravo to all the nations who have discerned
that our greed and addictive tendencies might render us prone to a good
casino fleecing, all in good fun mind you, LOL!

Well, I spent most of my first decade in Oklahoma rubbing elbows with a few
Creeks, the occasional Osage, and a number of Cherokees - and though I
haven't lived there since the mid-1960s, I'm glad to see the natives are
making a better deal for themselves. In some parts of northeast Oklahoma,
that's one of the few signs of economic expansion. (Same goes for the tribes
here in southeast Texas/southwest Louisiana, except that they're still
recovering from Katrina *and* Rita.)

Some reservations here are still in abject poverty ... too far from
interstates to invest in casinos. :-(

Well played gentlemen!

Pangur will no doubt be amused to educate you as to *her* gender.

lol
--
Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist
.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 18 Dec 2006 10:05:13 AM
Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

The Chief Instigator explained :

Sam Brown <xxx@nospam.net> writes:

Pangur Ban wrote:

Merovingian submitted this idea :

Pangur Ban wrote:

[...]

Native Americans are taking back America? :-)
--
Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist

uh...before you laugh about the prospect of Native americans taking
back America.

Wasn't laughing!

You need to see the person who signs the checks at the
majority of the casinos.

I live in casino country ...

They have begun an agressive move to aquire
financial gain, and they can buy back their claims if they continue to
be as successful as they have been.

I am just pleased to see their investments in good medical facilities,
new up-to-date schools, modern fire fighting equipment, well equipped
tribal police (even if I did get my first ever speeding ticket from one),
excellent Senior Citizen centers, good housing (some of the res "homes"
were truly third world and in areas without casinos still are), etc. I
saw a performance by a group of senior citizen ladies ... a mixed group;
they don't discriminate. I've read of their increased interest in
preserving the acheological sites on their land.

You could end up on their
reservation if people dont stop bettin on the pony's. Money talks in
Washington.

I have two reservation bordering my area now. I'm not worried. I carry a
medicine bag - hand made by me - with a turtle totem on it. :-)

The resurgence of native cultural schooling, facilties and rituals funded
by the oldest sport all native peoples were reported to be skilled in is
gratifying to say the least - bravo to all the nations who have discerned
that our greed and addictive tendencies might render us prone to a good
casino fleecing, all in good fun mind you, LOL!

Well, I spent most of my first decade in Oklahoma rubbing elbows with a few
Creeks, the occasional Osage, and a number of Cherokees - and though I
haven't lived there since the mid-1960s, I'm glad to see the natives are
making a better deal for themselves. In some parts of northeast Oklahoma,
that's one of the few signs of economic expansion. (Same goes for the
tribes here in southeast Texas/southwest Louisiana, except that they're
still recovering from Katrina *and* Rita.)

Some reservations here are still in abject poverty ... too far from
interstates to invest in casinos. :-(

It's a mixed bag...but the Coushattas are doing well with theirs in Kinder
(Louisiana, for those not familiar with the area) despite it being 20-odd
miles away from I-10. On the other hand, Osage Nation is starting to show
some improvement in reviving the culture and language, and the Million Dollar
Elm Tree Casino (two blocks west of the Osage/Tulsa line, three miles north of
downtown Tulsa) is already starting to provide an incentive for renewed
development in an area that was booming in the 1960s, but started sliding
downhill in the '70s and bottomed out in the late '90s.

Well played gentlemen!

Pangur will no doubt be amused to educate you as to *her* gender.

lol

Some people need to be beaten with a clue-by-four - and "Sam Brown" is one of
the obvious candidates. ;-)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 3, Manitoba 1 (December 16)
NEXT GAME: Friday, December 22 vs. Chicago, 7:35
.


User: "Sam Brown"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 17 Dec 2006 11:51:51 PM
The Chief Instigator wrote:

Sam Brown <xxx@nospam.net> writes:

Pangur Ban wrote:

Merovingian submitted this idea :

Pangur Ban wrote:


[...]

Native Americans are taking back America? :-)

--
Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist


uh...before you laugh about the prospect of Native americans taking
back America.


Wasn't laughing!


You need to see the person who signs the checks at the
majority of the casinos.


I live in casino country ...


They have begun an agressive move to aquire
financial gain, and they can buy back their claims if they continue to
be as successful as they have been.


I am just pleased to see their investments in good medical facilities, new
up-to-date schools, modern fire fighting equipment, well equipped tribal
police (even if I did get my first ever speeding ticket from one), excellent
Senior Citizen centers, good housing (some of the res "homes" were truly
third world and in areas without casinos still are), etc. I saw a
performance by a group of senior citizen ladies ... a mixed group; they
don't discriminate. I've read of their increased interest in preserving the
acheological sites on their land.


You could end up on their
reservation if people dont stop bettin on the pony's. Money talks in
Washington.


I have two reservation bordering my area now. I'm not worried. I carry a
medicine bag - hand made by me - with a turtle totem on it. :-)


The resurgence of native cultural schooling, facilties and rituals funded by
the oldest sport all native peoples were reported to be skilled in is
gratifying to say the least - bravo to all the nations who have discerned that
our greed and addictive tendencies might render us prone to a good casino
fleecing, all in good fun mind you, LOL!


Well, I spent most of my first decade in Oklahoma rubbing elbows with a few
Creeks, the occasional Osage, and a number of Cherokees - and though I haven't
lived there since the mid-1960s, I'm glad to see the natives are making a
better deal for themselves. In some parts of northeast Oklahoma, that's one
of the few signs of economic expansion. (Same goes for the tribes here in
southeast Texas/southwest Louisiana, except that they're still recovering from
Katrina *and* Rita.)

Well played gentlemen!


Pangur will no doubt be amused to educate you as to *her* gender.

My notation was to the tribal leaders themselves, oft times men, but
Wilma Mankiller historically noted...
.
User: "Pangur Ban"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 18 Dec 2006 07:00:57 AM
Sam Brown explained on 12/17/2006 :

The Chief Instigator wrote:

Sam Brown <xxx@nospam.net> writes:

Pangur Ban wrote:

Merovingian submitted this idea :

Pangur Ban wrote:


[...]

Native Americans are taking back America? :-)

-- Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist


uh...before you laugh about the prospect of Native americans taking
back America.


Wasn't laughing!


You need to see the person who signs the checks at the
majority of the casinos.


I live in casino country ...


They have begun an agressive move to aquire
financial gain, and they can buy back their claims if they continue to
be as successful as they have been.


I am just pleased to see their investments in good medical facilities,
new
up-to-date schools, modern fire fighting equipment, well equipped tribal
police (even if I did get my first ever speeding ticket from one),
excellent
Senior Citizen centers, good housing (some of the res "homes" were truly
third world and in areas without casinos still are), etc. I saw a
performance by a group of senior citizen ladies ... a mixed group; they
don't discriminate. I've read of their increased interest in preserving
the
acheological sites on their land.


You could end up on their
reservation if people dont stop bettin on the pony's. Money talks in
Washington.


I have two reservation bordering my area now. I'm not worried. I carry
a
medicine bag - hand made by me - with a turtle totem on it. :-)


The resurgence of native cultural schooling, facilties and rituals funded
by
the oldest sport all native peoples were reported to be skilled in is
gratifying to say the least - bravo to all the nations who have discerned
that
our greed and addictive tendencies might render us prone to a good casino
fleecing, all in good fun mind you, LOL!


Well, I spent most of my first decade in Oklahoma rubbing elbows with a few
Creeks, the occasional Osage, and a number of Cherokees - and though I
haven't
lived there since the mid-1960s, I'm glad to see the natives are making a
better deal for themselves. In some parts of northeast Oklahoma, that's
one
of the few signs of economic expansion. (Same goes for the tribes here in
southeast Texas/southwest Louisiana, except that they're still recovering
from
Katrina *and* Rita.)

Well played gentlemen!


Pangur will no doubt be amused to educate you as to *her* gender.

My notation was to the tribal leaders themselves, oft times men,

Which is why I didn't make a comment ... :-)

but Wilma
Mankiller historically noted...

Saw a bumpersticker t'other day: Thelma and Louise live
--
Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist
.
User: "Sam Brown"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 18 Dec 2006 10:39:44 AM
Pangur Ban wrote:

Sam Brown explained on 12/17/2006 :

The Chief Instigator wrote:

Sam Brown <xxx@nospam.net> writes:

Pangur Ban wrote:

Merovingian submitted this idea :

Pangur Ban wrote:


[...]

Native Americans are taking back America? :-)

-- Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist


uh...before you laugh about the prospect of Native americans taking
back America.


Wasn't laughing!


You need to see the person who signs the checks at the
majority of the casinos.


I live in casino country ...


They have begun an agressive move to aquire
financial gain, and they can buy back their claims if they
continue to
be as successful as they have been.


I am just pleased to see their investments in good medical
facilities, new
up-to-date schools, modern fire fighting equipment, well equipped
tribal
police (even if I did get my first ever speeding ticket from one),
excellent
Senior Citizen centers, good housing (some of the res "homes" were
truly
third world and in areas without casinos still are), etc. I saw a
performance by a group of senior citizen ladies ... a mixed group;
they
don't discriminate. I've read of their increased interest in
preserving the
acheological sites on their land.


You could end up on their
reservation if people dont stop bettin on the pony's. Money talks in
Washington.


I have two reservation bordering my area now. I'm not worried. I
carry a
medicine bag - hand made by me - with a turtle totem on it. :-)


The resurgence of native cultural schooling, facilties and rituals
funded by
the oldest sport all native peoples were reported to be skilled in is
gratifying to say the least - bravo to all the nations who have
discerned that
our greed and addictive tendencies might render us prone to a good
casino
fleecing, all in good fun mind you, LOL!


Well, I spent most of my first decade in Oklahoma rubbing elbows with
a few
Creeks, the occasional Osage, and a number of Cherokees - and though
I haven't
lived there since the mid-1960s, I'm glad to see the natives are
making a
better deal for themselves. In some parts of northeast Oklahoma,
that's one
of the few signs of economic expansion. (Same goes for the tribes
here in
southeast Texas/southwest Louisiana, except that they're still
recovering from
Katrina *and* Rita.)

Well played gentlemen!


Pangur will no doubt be amused to educate you as to *her* gender.

My notation was to the tribal leaders themselves, oft times men,


Which is why I didn't make a comment ... :-)

but Wilma Mankiller historically noted...


Saw a bumpersticker t'other day: Thelma and Louise live

Heh!
.




User: "Pangur Ban"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 17 Dec 2006 11:25:04 PM
Sam Brown wrote after much deliberation:

Pangur Ban wrote:

Merovingian submitted this idea :

Pangur Ban wrote:

J Young explained :

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53388
By Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson
Why are white Americans afraid to speak truth to black Americans?
Let me start with a tale of two Michaels:
Michael Richards, the "Seinfeld" co-star who lashed out at a black
heckler, repeatedly calling the man a "ni---r," has since made numerous
apologies to black Americans.


He apologized on David Letterman's "Late Show" - but that forum
wasn't "black enough" - so Richards was forced to grovel on Jesse
Jackson's radio show.


The black man Richards insulted has retained Gloria Allred. Next month,
he will express his contrition in front of a retired judge who will
determine how much money Richards should dole out for hurling the "N"
word.


Then there's the Nov. 25 shooting in New York City, where NYPD officers
shot Sean Bell, a 23-year-old black man outside a strip club in Queens
when he tried to ram an officer with his car. The incident has outraged
Rev. Al Sharpton ("the Riot King") and other black leaders.
Sharpton is threatening to lead a massive pre-Christmas march along
Manhattan's Fifth Avenue - stating, "We're going shopping for justice
this Christmas."


Let's not forget that Sharpton gave us the Tawana Brawley hoax and
provoked the Crown Heights riot in the Hasidic (Jewish) section of
Brooklyn.


Why should anyone listen to this hypocrite?
After the police shooting, Michael (the other Michael) Bloomberg, the
mayor of NYC, met with Sharpton and other black racist agitators and
prematurely criticized the deadly shooting, calling it "inexplicable"
and "unacceptable." Can you say "cave"?
What has happened to white men in this country?
White men used to be tough. John Wayne, Charlton Heston and Ronald
Reagan exemplified a strong male image.


Fer crying out loud ... they were ACTORS! Why is it that some people,
Dan Quayle among them, can't distinguish between fiction and reality?

But because of the successful
attack - by secular progressives like NOW (National Organization of
Women who Hate Men), the ACLU, homosexual groups and liberal black
leaders - most white males have been emasculated.


ROFL ... I'll be certain to tell the macho men in my area; these
gun-toting, bearded, tobacco chawing, ranchers and farmers will be
delighted to hear so.

Years of scapegoating and charges of racism have intimidated whites to
the point that they no longer speak out on issues concerning race and
morality.


My desert area is more racially mixed than many cities ... we all get
along pretty well. As there are few of us, we depend upon each
other... none of the silliness of cities.

After Dr. King's assassination in 1968,


manure *shoveled* away

What is courage? Well, I can tell you what courage is not: 1) Courage
is not resenting blacks and complaining to your white friends behind
closed doors. 2) It's not tolerating black misconduct, and 3) Courage
is not adopting the divisive, politically correct term "African
American."


I don't resent blacks. I never have tolerated black misconduct (and
had many "mixed" classroom; Why not african-american? Technically I
am a welsh-american.

more *shoveling*

It will take decent whites and blacks to come together to live out the
promise of Dr. King's dream. Then, America will finally become the land
of the free and the home of the brave!


Native Americans are taking back America? :-)

-- Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist



uh...before you laugh about the prospect of Native americans taking
back America.


Wasn't laughing!

You need to see the person who signs the checks at the
majority of the casinos.


I live in casino country ...

They have begun an agressive move to aquire
financial gain, and they can buy back their claims if they continue to
be as successful as they have been.


I am just pleased to see their investments in good medical facilities, new
up-to-date schools, modern fire fighting equipment, well equipped tribal
police (even if I did get my first ever speeding ticket from one),
excellent Senior Citizen centers, good housing (some of the res "homes"
were truly third world and in areas without casinos still are), etc. I saw
a performance by a group of senior citizen ladies ... a mixed group; they
don't discriminate. I've read of their increased interest in preserving
the acheological sites on their land.

You could end up on their
reservation if people dont stop bettin on the pony's. Money talks in
Washington.


I have two reservation bordering my area now. I'm not worried. I carry a
medicine bag - hand made by me - with a turtle totem on it. :-)

The resurgence of native cultural schooling, facilties and rituals funded by
the oldest sport all native peoples were reported to be skilled in is
gratifying to say the least - bravo to all the nations who have discerned
that our greed and addictive tendencies might render us prone to a good
casino fleecing, all in good fun mind you, LOL!
Well played gentlemen!

However, I still can't get used to Navajo tacos! :-)
--
Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist
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User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 18 Dec 2006 12:05:50 AM
Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

Sam Brown wrote after much deliberation:

Pangur Ban wrote:

[...]

I have two reservation bordering my area now. I'm not worried. I carry a
medicine bag - hand made by me - with a turtle totem on it. :-)

The resurgence of native cultural schooling, facilties and rituals funded by
the oldest sport all native peoples were reported to be skilled in is
gratifying to say the least - bravo to all the nations who have discerned
that our greed and addictive tendencies might render us prone to a good
casino fleecing, all in good fun mind you, LOL!
Well played gentlemen!

However, I still can't get used to Navajo tacos! :-)

I've never experienced them, myself, but they've got to be better than
anything from Taco John (even before the E. coli scare earlier this
summer)...;-)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 3, Manitoba 1 (December 16)
NEXT GAME: Friday, December 22 vs. Chicago, 7:35
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User: "Pangur Ban"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 18 Dec 2006 06:54:04 AM
The Chief Instigator explained on 12/17/2006 :

Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

Sam Brown wrote after much deliberation:

Pangur Ban wrote:

[...]

I have two reservation bordering my area now. I'm not worried. I carry a
medicine bag - hand made by me - with a turtle totem on it. :-)

The resurgence of native cultural schooling, facilties and rituals funded
by the oldest sport all native peoples were reported to be skilled in is
gratifying to say the least - bravo to all the nations who have discerned
that our greed and addictive tendencies might render us prone to a good
casino fleecing, all in good fun mind you, LOL!
Well played gentlemen!

However, I still can't get used to Navajo tacos! :-)

I've never experienced them, myself, but they've got to be better than
anything from Taco John (even before the E. coli scare earlier this
summer)...;-)

Some ladies from a nearby pueblo open their stands in spring. Fry
bread is fresh as are all the ingredients. Sitting on a slab of
sandstone in the red rocks area tracing the ancient stream marks and
munching away.... *sigh*
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Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 18 Dec 2006 04:43:34 PM
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 05:54:04 -0700, Pangur Ban
<PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

However, I still can't get used to Navajo tacos! :-)

<snip>

Some ladies from a nearby pueblo open their stands in spring. Fry
bread is fresh as are all the ingredients. Sitting on a slab of
sandstone in the red rocks area tracing the ancient stream marks and
munching away.... *sigh*

Are you calling fry bread 'tacos'? No comparison! Give me fry bread
any time. (Well, any time I can drop 10 pounds and have a piece of
bread again.)
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of Hitler nor of Mussolini."
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on Bush's genocide in the Iraq war. 11-28-2004
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User: "Pangur Ban"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 19 Dec 2006 09:08:20 AM
Al Klein expressed precisely :

On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 05:54:04 -0700, Pangur Ban
<PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

However, I still can't get used to Navajo tacos! :-) <snip>

Some ladies from a nearby pueblo open their stands in spring. Fry bread
is fresh as are all the ingredients. Sitting on a slab of sandstone in
the red rocks area tracing the ancient stream marks and munching away....
*sigh*

Are you calling fry bread 'tacos'? No comparison! Give me fry bread
any time. (Well, any time I can drop 10 pounds and have a piece of
bread again.)

I don't call them tacos ... that's the name around here - "Navaho
tacos". I don't name the stuff ... I just eat it!! :-)
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User: "bowman"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 18 Dec 2006 10:33:51 PM
Al Klein wrote:

Are you calling fry bread 'tacos'?  No comparison!  Give me fry bread
any time.  (Well, any time I can drop 10 pounds and have a piece of
bread again.)

No, 'Indian tacos' -- you put all the usual taco stuff on a chunk of fry
bread. I suppose you want maple syrup on yours :)
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 19 Dec 2006 07:27:56 AM
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:33:51 -0700, bowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

Al Klein wrote:

Are you calling fry bread 'tacos'?  No comparison!  Give me fry bread
any time.  (Well, any time I can drop 10 pounds and have a piece of
bread again.)


No, 'Indian tacos' -- you put all the usual taco stuff on a chunk of fry
bread. I suppose you want maple syrup on yours :)

Actually I hate maple syrup, and I love taco fixings.
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surroundings, you will find yourself in a place which has conditions
exactly suitable to your being there. If the environment was
hostile or incompatible in some important way then you would not be
there in the first place. Therefore the suitability and seeming
perfection of your universe cannot be taken as evidence of anything
more than your existence in it."
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User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 18 Dec 2006 10:58:20 AM
Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

The Chief Instigator explained on 12/17/2006 :

Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

Sam Brown wrote after much deliberation:

Pangur Ban wrote:

[...]

I have two reservation bordering my area now. I'm not worried. I carry
a medicine bag - hand made by me - with a turtle totem on it. :-)

The resurgence of native cultural schooling, facilties and rituals funded
by the oldest sport all native peoples were reported to be skilled in is
gratifying to say the least - bravo to all the nations who have discerned
that our greed and addictive tendencies might render us prone to a good
casino fleecing, all in good fun mind you, LOL!
Well played gentlemen!

However, I still can't get used to Navajo tacos! :-)

I've never experienced them, myself, but they've got to be better than
anything from Taco John (even before the E. coli scare earlier this
summer)...;-)

Some ladies from a nearby pueblo open their stands in spring. Fry bread is
fresh as are all the ingredients. Sitting on a slab of sandstone in the red
rocks area tracing the ancient stream marks and munching away.... *sigh*

Home cooking is always hard to beat. ;-)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 3, Manitoba 1 (December 16)
NEXT GAME: Friday, December 22 vs. Chicago, 7:35
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User: "Pangur Ban"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 19 Dec 2006 09:06:06 AM
The Chief Instigator wrote after much deliberation:

Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

The Chief Instigator explained on 12/17/2006 :

Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

Sam Brown wrote after much deliberation:

Pangur Ban wrote:

[...]

I have two reservation bordering my area now. I'm not worried. I
carry
a medicine bag - hand made by me - with a turtle totem on it. :-)

The resurgence of native cultural schooling, facilties and rituals
funded
by the oldest sport all native peoples were reported to be skilled in
is
gratifying to say the least - bravo to all the nations who have
discerned
that our greed and addictive tendencies might render us prone to a good
casino fleecing, all in good fun mind you, LOL!
Well played gentlemen!

However, I still can't get used to Navajo tacos! :-)

I've never experienced them, myself, but they've got to be better than
anything from Taco John (even before the E. coli scare earlier this
summer)...;-)

Some ladies from a nearby pueblo open their stands in spring. Fry bread
is
fresh as are all the ingredients. Sitting on a slab of sandstone in the
red
rocks area tracing the ancient stream marks and munching away.... *sigh*

Home cooking is always hard to beat. ;-)

Even better when they cook some of the ingredients right there at their
stands! :-)
--
Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist
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User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 19 Dec 2006 10:53:34 AM
Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

The Chief Instigator wrote after much deliberation:

Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

The Chief Instigator explained on 12/17/2006 :

Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

Sam Brown wrote after much deliberation:

Pangur Ban wrote:

[...]

I have two reservation bordering my area now. I'm not worried. I
carry a medicine bag - hand made by me - with a turtle totem on it.
:-)

The resurgence of native cultural schooling, facilties and rituals
funded by the oldest sport all native peoples were reported to be
skilled in is gratifying to say the least - bravo to all the nations
who have discerned that our greed and addictive tendencies might render
us prone to a good casino fleecing, all in good fun mind you, LOL!
Well played gentlemen!

However, I still can't get used to Navajo tacos! :-)

I've never experienced them, myself, but they've got to be better than
anything from Taco John (even before the E. coli scare earlier this
summer)...;-)

Some ladies from a nearby pueblo open their stands in spring. Fry bread
is fresh as are all the ingredients. Sitting on a slab of sandstone in
the red rocks area tracing the ancient stream marks and munching
away.... *sigh*

Home cooking is always hard to beat. ;-)

Even better when they cook some of the ingredients right there at their
stands! :-)

I can see an excuse for a visit to Arizona next year. ;-)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 3, Manitoba 1 (December 16)
NEXT GAME: Friday, December 22 vs. Chicago, 7:35
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User: "Pangur Ban"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 19 Dec 2006 01:54:01 PM
The Chief Instigator submitted this idea :

Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

The Chief Instigator wrote after much deliberation:

Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

The Chief Instigator explained on 12/17/2006 :

Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

Sam Brown wrote after much deliberation:

Pangur Ban wrote:

[...]

I have two reservation bordering my area now. I'm not worried. I
carry a medicine bag - hand made by me - with a turtle totem on it.
:-)

The resurgence of native cultural schooling, facilties and rituals
funded by the oldest sport all native peoples were reported to be
skilled in is gratifying to say the least - bravo to all the nations
who have discerned that our greed and addictive tendencies might render
us prone to a good casino fleecing, all in good fun mind you, LOL!
Well played gentlemen!

However, I still can't get used to Navajo tacos! :-)

I've never experienced them, myself, but they've got to be better than
anything from Taco John (even before the E. coli scare earlier this
summer)...;-)

Some ladies from a nearby pueblo open their stands in spring. Fry bread
is fresh as are all the ingredients. Sitting on a slab of sandstone in
the red rocks area tracing the ancient stream marks and munching
away.... *sigh*

Home cooking is always hard to beat. ;-)

Even better when they cook some of the ingredients right there at their
stands! :-)

I can see an excuse for a visit to Arizona next year. ;-)

On your way, the Cultural Center in Albuq. NM has some of the BEST NA
cooking! Be prepared to ask for a doggie bag ... I ordered wayyyy too
many dishes in my eagerness to "try it all".
Also, Albq. has the Gathering of the Nations. The opening ceremony is
goose-bumpmaking. The Gathering is also a chance to see dancers from a
variety tribes. Got my first Carlos Nakai (sp?) CD there....
--
Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist
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User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 19 Dec 2006 06:43:12 PM
Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

The Chief Instigator submitted this idea :

Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

The Chief Instigator wrote after much deliberation:

Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

The Chief Instigator explained on 12/17/2006 :

Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

Sam Brown wrote after much deliberation:

Pangur Ban wrote:

[...]

I have two reservation bordering my area now. I'm not worried. I
carry a medicine bag - hand made by me - with a turtle totem on it.
:-)

The resurgence of native cultural schooling, facilties and rituals
funded by the oldest sport all native peoples were reported to be
skilled in is gratifying to say the least - bravo to all the nations
who have discerned that our greed and addictive tendencies might
render us prone to a good casino fleecing, all in good fun mind you,
LOL!
Well played gentlemen!

However, I still can't get used to Navajo tacos! :-)

I've never experienced them, myself, but they've got to be better than
anything from Taco John (even before the E. coli scare earlier this
summer)...;-)

Some ladies from a nearby pueblo open their stands in spring. Fry bread
is fresh as are all the ingredients. Sitting on a slab of sandstone in
the red rocks area tracing the ancient stream marks and munching
away.... *sigh*

Home cooking is always hard to beat. ;-)

Even better when they cook some of the ingredients right there at their
stands! :-)

I can see an excuse for a visit to Arizona next year. ;-)

On your way, the Cultural Center in Albuq. NM has some of the BEST NA cooking!
Be prepared to ask for a doggie bag ... I ordered wayyyy too many dishes in my
eagerness to "try it all".
Also, Albq. has the Gathering of the Nations. The opening ceremony is
goose-bumpmaking. The Gathering is also a chance to see dancers from a
variety tribes. Got my first Carlos Nakai (sp?) CD there....

I may have to cobble together a way to do that during the winter, and maybe
catch an NM Scorpions home game in Rio Rancho...there are still three states
in the Lower 48 that I have yet to set foot in, and New Mexico is one of
them. (That would also make an excuse for seeing more of the Panhandle, on
the way there.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 3, Manitoba 1 (December 16)
NEXT GAME: Friday, December 22 vs. Chicago, 7:35
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User: "Pangur Ban"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 19 Dec 2006 08:47:00 PM
The Chief Instigator explained on 12/19/2006 :

Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

The Chief Instigator submitted this idea :

Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

The Chief Instigator wrote after much deliberation:

Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

The Chief Instigator explained on 12/17/2006 :

Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

Sam Brown wrote after much deliberation:

Pangur Ban wrote:

[...]

I have two reservation bordering my area now. I'm not worried. I
carry a medicine bag - hand made by me - with a turtle totem on it.
:-)

The resurgence of native cultural schooling, facilties and rituals
funded by the oldest sport all native peoples were reported to be
skilled in is gratifying to say the least - bravo to all the nations
who have discerned that our greed and addictive tendencies might
render us prone to a good casino fleecing, all in good fun mind you,
LOL!
Well played gentlemen!

However, I still can't get used to Navajo tacos! :-)

I've never experienced them, myself, but they've got to be better than
anything from Taco John (even before the E. coli scare earlier this
summer)...;-)

Some ladies from a nearby pueblo open their stands in spring. Fry bread
is fresh as are all the ingredients. Sitting on a slab of sandstone in
the red rocks area tracing the ancient stream marks and munching
away.... *sigh*

Home cooking is always hard to beat. ;-)

Even better when they cook some of the ingredients right there at their
stands! :-)

I can see an excuse for a visit to Arizona next year. ;-)

On your way, the Cultural Center in Albuq. NM has some of the BEST NA
cooking! Be prepared to ask for a doggie bag ... I ordered wayyyy too many
dishes in my eagerness to "try it all".
Also, Albq. has the Gathering of the Nations. The opening ceremony is
goose-bumpmaking. The Gathering is also a chance to see dancers from a
variety of tribes. Got my first Carlos Nakai (sp?) CD there....

I may have to cobble together a way to do that during the winter, and maybe
catch an NM Scorpions home game in Rio Rancho...there are still three states
in the Lower 48 that I have yet to set foot in, and New Mexico is one of
them. (That would also make an excuse for seeing more of the Panhandle, on
the way there.)

I've been in every state west of the Mississippi - not nearly enough in
the east. Gathering of the Nations is in the spring, but the Cultural
Center is open year-round. Try Los Quates for NM food ... County Line
for BBQ.
--
Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist
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User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 19 Dec 2006 10:12:53 PM
Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

The Chief Instigator explained on 12/19/2006 :

Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

The Chief Instigator submitted this idea :

Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

The Chief Instigator wrote after much deliberation:

Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

The Chief Instigator explained on 12/17/2006 :

Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

Sam Brown wrote after much deliberation:

Pangur Ban wrote:

[...]

I have two reservation bordering my area now. I'm not worried. I
carry a medicine bag - hand made by me - with a turtle totem on it.
:-)

The resurgence of native cultural schooling, facilties and rituals
funded by the oldest sport all native peoples were reported to be
skilled in is gratifying to say the least - bravo to all the nations
who have discerned that our greed and addictive tendencies might
render us prone to a good casino fleecing, all in good fun mind you,
LOL!
Well played gentlemen!

However, I still can't get used to Navajo tacos! :-)

I've never experienced them, myself, but they've got to be better than
anything from Taco John (even before the E. coli scare earlier this
summer)...;-)

Some ladies from a nearby pueblo open their stands in spring. Fry
bread is fresh as are all the ingredients. Sitting on a slab of
sandstone in the red rocks area tracing the ancient stream marks and
munching away.... *sigh*

Home cooking is always hard to beat. ;-)

Even better when they cook some of the ingredients right there at their
stands! :-)

I can see an excuse for a visit to Arizona next year. ;-)

On your way, the Cultural Center in Albuq. NM has some of the BEST NA
cooking! Be prepared to ask for a doggie bag ... I ordered wayyyy too many
dishes in my eagerness to "try it all".
Also, Albq. has the Gathering of the Nations. The opening ceremony is
goose-bumpmaking. The Gathering is also a chance to see dancers from a
variety of tribes. Got my first Carlos Nakai (sp?) CD there....

I may have to cobble together a way to do that during the winter, and maybe
catch an NM Scorpions home game in Rio Rancho...there are still three states
in the Lower 48 that I have yet to set foot in, and New Mexico is one of
them. (That would also make an excuse for seeing more of the Panhandle, on
the way there.)

I've been in every state west of the Mississippi - not nearly enough in the
east. Gathering of the Nations is in the spring, but the Cultural Center is
open year-round. Try Los Quates for NM food ... County Line for BBQ.

I've got seven left, east of the Big Muddy: Michigan, and New England's six.
Outside of that, I've managed Ontario and Québec in Canada, and Yucatán,
Quintana Roo, and the DF in Mexico. (County Line is in New Mexico? We're
familiar with them through their one location in Houston, and one on San
Antonio's Riverwalk...)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 3, Manitoba 1 (December 16)
NEXT GAME: Friday, December 22 vs. Chicago, 7:35
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User: "Pangur Ban"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 21 Dec 2006 08:47:36 AM
The Chief Instigator explained :

Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

The Chief Instigator explained on 12/19/2006 :

Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

The Chief Instigator submitted this idea :

Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

The Chief Instigator wrote after much deliberation:

Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

The Chief Instigator explained on 12/17/2006 :

Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> writes:

Sam Brown wrote after much deliberation:

Pangur Ban wrote:

[...]

I have two reservation bordering my area now. I'm not worried.
I
carry a medicine bag - hand made by me - with a turtle totem on
it. :-)

The resurgence of native cultural schooling, facilties and
rituals
funded by the oldest sport all native peoples were reported to be
skilled in is gratifying to say the least - bravo to all the
nations who have discerned that our greed and addictive
tendencies might render us prone to a good casino fleecing, all
in good fun mind you, LOL!
Well played gentlemen!

However, I still can't get used to Navajo tacos! :-)

I've never experienced them, myself, but they've got to be better
than anything from Taco John (even before the E. coli scare earlier
this summer)...;-)

Some ladies from a nearby pueblo open their stands in spring. Fry
bread is fresh as are all the ingredients. Sitting on a slab of
sandstone in the red rocks area tracing the ancient stream marks and
munching away.... *sigh*

Home cooking is always hard to beat. ;-)

Even better when they cook some of the ingredients right there at
their
stands! :-)

I can see an excuse for a visit to Arizona next year. ;-)

On your way, the Cultural Center in Albuq. NM has some of the BEST NA
cooking! Be prepared to ask for a doggie bag ... I ordered wayyyy too
many
dishes in my eagerness to "try it all".
Also, Albq. has the Gathering of the Nations. The opening ceremony is
goose-bumpmaking. The Gathering is also a chance to see dancers from a
variety of tribes. Got my first Carlos Nakai (sp?) CD there....

I may have to cobble together a way to do that during the winter, and
maybe
catch an NM Scorpions home game in Rio Rancho...there are still three
states in the Lower 48 that I have yet to set foot in, and New Mexico is
one of them. (That would also make an excuse for seeing more of the
Panhandle, on the way there.)

I've been in every state west of the Mississippi - not nearly enough in
the
east. Gathering of the Nations is in the spring, but the Cultural Center
is
open year-round. Try Los Quates for NM food ... County Line for BBQ.

I've got seven left, east of the Big Muddy: Michigan, and New England's
six.
Outside of that, I've managed Ontario and Québec in Canada, and Yucatán,
Quintana Roo, and the DF in Mexico. (County Line is in New Mexico? We're
familiar with them through their one location in Houston, and one on San
Antonio's Riverwalk...)

County Line may be named for the fact it is on a county line ... I
don't know.
--
Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist
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User: "Sam Brown"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 17 Dec 2006 11:50:27 PM
Pangur Ban wrote:

Sam Brown wrote after much deliberation:

Pangur Ban wrote:

Merovingian submitted this idea :

Pangur Ban wrote:

J Young explained :

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53388
By Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson
Why are white Americans afraid to speak truth to black Americans?
Let me start with a tale of two Michaels:
Michael Richards, the "Seinfeld" co-star who lashed out at a black
heckler, repeatedly calling the man a "ni---r," has since made
numerous
apologies to black Americans.


He apologized on David Letterman's "Late Show" - but that forum
wasn't "black enough" - so Richards was forced to grovel on Jesse
Jackson's radio show.


The black man Richards insulted has retained Gloria Allred. Next
month,
he will express his contrition in front of a retired judge who will
determine how much money Richards should dole out for hurling the "N"
word.


Then there's the Nov. 25 shooting in New York City, where NYPD
officers
shot Sean Bell, a 23-year-old black man outside a strip club in
Queens
when he tried to ram an officer with his car. The incident has
outraged
Rev. Al Sharpton ("the Riot King") and other black leaders.
Sharpton is threatening to lead a massive pre-Christmas march along
Manhattan's Fifth Avenue - stating, "We're going shopping for justice
this Christmas."


Let's not forget that Sharpton gave us the Tawana Brawley hoax and
provoked the Crown Heights riot in the Hasidic (Jewish) section of
Brooklyn.


Why should anyone listen to this hypocrite?
After the police shooting, Michael (the other Michael) Bloomberg, the
mayor of NYC, met with Sharpton and other black racist agitators and
prematurely criticized the deadly shooting, calling it "inexplicable"
and "unacceptable." Can you say "cave"?
What has happened to white men in this country?
White men used to be tough. John Wayne, Charlton Heston and Ronald
Reagan exemplified a strong male image.


Fer crying out loud ... they were ACTORS! Why is it that some people,
Dan Quayle among them, can't distinguish between fiction and reality?

But because of the successful
attack - by secular progressives like NOW (National Organization of
Women who Hate Men), the ACLU, homosexual groups and liberal black
leaders - most white males have been emasculated.


ROFL ... I'll be certain to tell the macho men in my area; these
gun-toting, bearded, tobacco chawing, ranchers and farmers will be
delighted to hear so.

Years of scapegoating and charges of racism have intimidated
whites to
the point that they no longer speak out on issues concerning race and
morality.


My desert area is more racially mixed than many cities ... we all get
along pretty well. As there are few of us, we depend upon each
other... none of the silliness of cities.

After Dr. King's assassination in 1968,


manure *shoveled* away

What is courage? Well, I can tell you what courage is not: 1) Courage
is not resenting blacks and complaining to your white friends behind
closed doors. 2) It's not tolerating black misconduct, and 3) Courage
is not adopting the divisive, politically correct term "African
American."


I don't resent blacks. I never have tolerated black misconduct (and
had many "mixed" classroom; Why not african-american? Technically I
am a welsh-american.

more *shoveling*

It will take decent whites and blacks to come together to live out
the
promise of Dr. King's dream. Then, America will finally become the
land
of the free and the home of the brave!


Native Americans are taking back America? :-)

-- Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist



uh...before you laugh about the prospect of Native americans taking
back America.


Wasn't laughing!

You need to see the person who signs the checks at the
majority of the casinos.


I live in casino country ...

They have begun an agressive move to aquire
financial gain, and they can buy back their claims if they continue to
be as successful as they have been.


I am just pleased to see their investments in good medical
facilities, new up-to-date schools, modern fire fighting equipment,
well equipped tribal police (even if I did get my first ever speeding
ticket from one), excellent Senior Citizen centers, good housing
(some of the res "homes" were truly third world and in areas without
casinos still are), etc. I saw a performance by a group of senior
citizen ladies ... a mixed group; they don't discriminate. I've
read of their increased interest in preserving the acheological sites
on their land.

You could end up on their
reservation if people dont stop bettin on the pony's. Money talks in
Washington.


I have two reservation bordering my area now. I'm not worried. I
carry a medicine bag - hand made by me - with a turtle totem on it. :-)


The resurgence of native cultural schooling, facilties and rituals
funded by the oldest sport all native peoples were reported to be
skilled in is gratifying to say the least - bravo to all the nations
who have discerned that our greed and addictive tendencies might
render us prone to a good casino fleecing, all in good fun mind you, LOL!


Well played gentlemen!


However, I still can't get used to Navajo tacos! :-)

I have to say I prefer my fry bread with honey and a mess, but even with
beans and mutton it still works.
.
User: "Pangur Ban"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 18 Dec 2006 06:50:14 AM
Sam Brown explained on 12/17/2006 :

Pangur Ban wrote:

Sam Brown wrote after much deliberation:

Pangur Ban wrote:

Merovingian submitted this idea :

Pangur Ban wrote:

J Young explained :

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53388
By Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson
Why are white Americans afraid to speak truth to black Americans?
Let me start with a tale of two Michaels:
Michael Richards, the "Seinfeld" co-star who lashed out at a black
heckler, repeatedly calling the man a "ni---r," has since made
numerous
apologies to black Americans.


He apologized on David Letterman's "Late Show" - but that forum
wasn't "black enough" - so Richards was forced to grovel on Jesse
Jackson's radio show.


The black man Richards insulted has retained Gloria Allred. Next
month,
he will express his contrition in front of a retired judge who will
determine how much money Richards should dole out for hurling the "N"
word.


Then there's the Nov. 25 shooting in New York City, where NYPD
officers
shot Sean Bell, a 23-year-old black man outside a strip club in Queens
when he tried to ram an officer with his car. The incident has
outraged
Rev. Al Sharpton ("the Riot King") and other black leaders.
Sharpton is threatening to lead a massive pre-Christmas march along
Manhattan's Fifth Avenue - stating, "We're going shopping for justice
this Christmas."


Let's not forget that Sharpton gave us the Tawana Brawley hoax and
provoked the Crown Heights riot in the Hasidic (Jewish) section of
Brooklyn.


Why should anyone listen to this hypocrite?
After the police shooting, Michael (the other Michael) Bloomberg, the
mayor of NYC, met with Sharpton and other black racist agitators and
prematurely criticized the deadly shooting, calling it "inexplicable"
and "unacceptable." Can you say "cave"?
What has happened to white men in this country?
White men used to be tough. John Wayne, Charlton Heston and Ronald
Reagan exemplified a strong male image.


Fer crying out loud ... they were ACTORS! Why is it that some people,
Dan Quayle among them, can't distinguish between fiction and reality?

But because of the successful
attack - by secular progressives like NOW (National Organization of
Women who Hate Men), the ACLU, homosexual groups and liberal black
leaders - most white males have been emasculated.


ROFL ... I'll be certain to tell the macho men in my area; these
gun-toting, bearded, tobacco chawing, ranchers and farmers will be
delighted to hear so.

Years of scapegoating and charges of racism have intimidated whites to
the point that they no longer speak out on issues concerning race and
morality.


My desert area is more racially mixed than many cities ... we all get
along pretty well. As there are few of us, we depend upon each
other... none of the silliness of cities.

After Dr. King's assassination in 1968,


manure *shoveled* away

What is courage? Well, I can tell you what courage is not: 1) Courage
is not resenting blacks and complaining to your white friends behind
closed doors. 2) It's not tolerating black misconduct, and 3) Courage
is not adopting the divisive, politically correct term "African
American."


I don't resent blacks. I never have tolerated black misconduct (and
had many "mixed" classroom; Why not african-american? Technically I
am a welsh-american.

more *shoveling*

It will take decent whites and blacks to come together to live out the
promise of Dr. King's dream. Then, America will finally become the
land
of the free and the home of the brave!


Native Americans are taking back America? :-)

-- Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist



uh...before you laugh about the prospect of Native americans taking
back America.


Wasn't laughing!

You need to see the person who signs the checks at the
majority of the casinos.


I live in casino country ...

They have begun an agressive move to aquire
financial gain, and they can buy back their claims if they continue to
be as successful as they have been.


I am just pleased to see their investments in good medical facilities,
new up-to-date schools, modern fire fighting equipment, well equipped
tribal police (even if I did get my first ever speeding ticket from one),
excellent Senior Citizen centers, good housing (some of the res "homes"
were truly third world and in areas without casinos still are), etc. I
saw a performance by a group of senior citizen ladies ... a mixed group;
they don't discriminate. I've read of their increased interest in
preserving the acheological sites on their land.

You could end up on their
reservation if people dont stop bettin on the pony's. Money talks in
Washington.


I have two reservation bordering my area now. I'm not worried. I carry
a medicine bag - hand made by me - with a turtle totem on it. :-)


The resurgence of native cultural schooling, facilties and rituals funded
by the oldest sport all native peoples were reported to be skilled in is
gratifying to say the least - bravo to all the nations who have discerned
that our greed and addictive tendencies might render us prone to a good
casino fleecing, all in good fun mind you, LOL!


Well played gentlemen!


However, I still can't get used to Navajo tacos! :-)

I have to say I prefer my fry bread with honey and a mess, but even with
beans and mutton it still works.

I don't like beans, period. But mutton stew ... yum. When I think
taco, I think of the crunchy shell ... fry bread is great - just not
crunchy. At least the ones I have had at the Gathering of the Nations.
--
Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist
.
User: "Sam Brown"

Title: Re: Is there 1 white man who has any courage? 18 Dec 2006 10:39:09 AM
Pangur Ban wrote:

Sam Brown explained on 12/17/2006 :

Pangur Ban wrote:

Sam Brown wrote after much deliberation:

Pangur Ban wrote:

Merovingian submitted this idea :

Pangur Ban wrote:

J Young explained :

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53388
By Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson
Why are white Americans afraid to speak truth to black Americans?
Let me start with a tale of two Michaels:
Michael Richards, the "Seinfeld" co-star who lashed out at a black
heckler, repeatedly calling the man a "ni---r," has since made
numerous
apologies to black Americans.


He apologized on David Letterman's "Late Show" - but that forum
wasn't "black enough" - so Richards was forced to grovel on Jesse
Jackson's radio show.


The black man Richards insulted has retained Gloria Allred. Next
month,
he will express his contrition in front of a retired judge who will
determine how much money Richards should dole out for hurling
the "N"
word.


Then there's the Nov. 25 shooting in New York City, where NYPD
officers
shot Sean Bell, a 23-year-old black man outside a strip club in
Queens
when he tried to ram an officer with his car. The incident has
outraged
Rev. Al Sharpton ("the Riot King") and other black leaders.
Sharpton is threatening to lead a massive pre-Christmas march along
Manhattan's Fifth Avenue - stating, "We're going shopping for
justice
this Christmas."


Let's not forget that Sharpton gave us the Tawana Brawley hoax and
provoked the Crown Heights riot in the Hasidic (Jewish) section of
Brooklyn.


Why should anyone listen to this hypocrite?
After the police shooting, Michael (the other Michael)
Bloomberg, the
mayor of NYC, met with Sharpton and other black racist agitators
and
prematurely criticized the deadly shooting, calling it
"inexplicable"
and "unacceptable." Can you say "cave"?
What has happened to white men in this country?
White men used to be tough. John Wayne, Charlton Heston and Ronald
Reagan exemplified a strong male image.


Fer crying out loud ... they were ACTORS! Why is it that some
people,
Dan Quayle among them, can't distinguish between fiction and
reality?

But because of the successful
attack - by secular progressives like NOW (National Organization of
Women who Hate Men), the ACLU, homosexual groups and liberal black
leaders - most white males have been emasculated.


ROFL ... I'll be certain to tell the macho men in my area; these
gun-toting, bearded, tobacco chawing, ranchers and farmers will be
delighted to hear so.

Years of scapegoating and charges of racism have intimidated
whites to
the point that they no longer speak out on issues concerning
race and
morality.


My desert area is more racially mixed than many cities ... we all
get
along pretty well. As there are few of us, we depend upon each
other... none of the silliness of cities.

After Dr. King's assassination in 1968,


manure *shoveled* away

What is courage? Well, I can tell you what courage is not: 1)
Courage
is not resenting blacks and complaining to your white friends
behind
closed doors. 2) It's not tolerating black misconduct, and 3)
Courage
is not adopting the divisive, politically correct term "African
American."


I don't resent blacks. I never have tolerated black misconduct (and
had many "mixed" classroom; Why not african-american