On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 15:57:45 +0100, "Uno-Hoo!"
<Uno-Hoo@NOSPAMbigfootdotcom> you decided to say:

"Giant Waffle" <_giantwaffle_@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On 4 Oct 2006 13:21:49 -0700, "leo"
<leopoldo.perdomo@gmail.com> you decided to say:

These written texts are nothing but human testimonies.

Humans that you choose not to believe. That is your choice.

Bearing in mind that today's newspapers repeatedly get stories wrong,

We are not discussing today's newspapers.

You have made your choice not to believe.

Yet you don't question any other ancient text
this way.

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Giant Waffle

If you wish to be rude, or to play games, go find a mirror
and see if the person you see there would appreciate it.
And if the person you find in that mirror wouldn't, then
you know why I have ended my conversation with you.
Rather, I have chosen to ignore and forget you, at least
until you learn some common decency and respect.

On 4 Oct 2006 13:21:49 -0700, "leo"
<leopoldo.perdomo@gmail.com> you decided to say:

These written texts are nothing but human testimonies.

Humans that you choose not to believe. That is your choice.
But as I said, if God did something like that again, 2,000
years from now, you would be one of the humans that
would not be believed.

It would be an
considered evidence in a trial if the nature under consideration were
ordinary matters of the type "John stabbed Peter in the market".

Really? Caesar claimed to be "God above all gods".
Do you doubt he existed?

Miracles are recorded as being done in texts outside
of religious texts. In fact, Titus is recorded as having
done two of them. But hey, maybe he never existed?

Now why would people claim to be eyewitnesses of
what would get them locked up and killed for saying it?
That doesn't make sense. This was not some small
group. This was thousands of people, being slaughtered
and yet, they went to their deaths and all for a Person
that did not exist and did not do these works? Yea, right.

"That which was from the beginning, which we have heard,
which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon,
and our hands have handled, of the Word of life" - 1 John 1:1

You may believe what you wish.

Giant Waffle

If you wish to be rude, or to play games, go find a mirror
and see if the person you see there would appreciate it.
And if the person you find in that mirror wouldn't, then
you know why I have ended my conversation with you.
Rather, I have chosen to ignore and forget you, at least
until you learn some common decency and respect.

On 4 Oct 2006 13:21:49 -0700, "leo"
<leopoldo.perdomo@gmail.com> you decided to say:

These written texts are nothing but human testimonies.

Humans that you choose not to believe. That is your choice.
But as I said, if God did something like that again, 2,000
years from now, you would be one of the humans that
would not be believed.

It would be an
considered evidence in a trial if the nature under consideration were
ordinary matters of the type "John stabbed Peter in the market".

Really? Caesar claimed to be "God above all gods".
Do you doubt he existed?

Miracles are recorded as being done in texts outside
of religious texts. In fact, Titus is recorded as having
done two of them. But hey, maybe he never existed?

Now why would people claim to be eyewitnesses of
what would get them locked up and killed for saying it?
That doesn't make sense. This was not some small
group. This was thousands of people, being slaughtered
and yet, they went to their deaths and all for a Person
that did not exist and did not do these works? Yea, right.

"That which was from the beginning, which we have heard,
which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon,
and our hands have handled, of the Word of life" - 1 John 1:1

You may believe what you wish.

__

Giant Waffle

If you wish to be rude, or to play games, go find a mirror
and see if the person you see there would appreciate it.
And if the person you find in that mirror wouldn't, then
you know why I have ended my conversation with you.
Rather, I have chosen to ignore and forget you, at least
until you learn some common decency and respect.

On 4 Oct 2006 13:21:49 -0700, "leo"
<leopoldo.perdomo@gmail.com> you decided to say:

These written texts are nothing but human testimonies.

Humans that you choose not to believe. That is your choice.

But as I said, if God did something like that again, 2,000
years from now, you would be one of the humans that
would not be believed.

It would be an
considered evidence in a trial if the nature under consideration were
ordinary matters of the type "John stabbed Peter in the market".

Really? Caesar claimed to be "God above all gods".
Do you doubt he existed?

Miracles are recorded as being done in texts outside
of religious texts. In fact, Titus is recorded as having
done two of them. But hey, maybe he never existed?

Now why would people claim to be eyewitnesses of
what would get them locked up and killed for saying it?
That doesn't make sense. This was not some small
group. This was thousands of people, being slaughtered
and yet, they went to their deaths and all for a Person
that did not exist and did not do these works? Yea, right.

"That which was from the beginning, which we have heard,
which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon,
and our hands have handled, of the Word of life" - 1 John 1:1

You may believe what you wish.

__

Giant Waffle

If you wish to be rude, or to play games, go find a mirror
and see if the person you see there would appreciate it.
And if the person you find in that mirror wouldn't, then
you know why I have ended my conversation with you.
Rather, I have chosen to ignore and forget you, at least
until you learn some common decency and respect.

On 4 Oct 2006 07:52:19 -0700, "David Schwartz"
<davids@webmaster.com> you decided to say:

Giant Waffle wrote:

He has performed and proved He is God. But not on demand.
He is not a circus act.

You can't have it both ways.

I'm not seeking to.

I said that He is not a circus act, that performs on demand.
He has provided evidence. You choose to believe it never
happened. Your choice. But if He did it again, I wonder
what people would be saying 2,000 years from now?
Demanding the same circus act performer again, no doubt.

It is you who wants it both ways. You want Him to be God
and yet, to also be a circus act that performs on your demand,
thereby making yourself His boss, thereby making yourself
God. So why don't you perform a few miracles for us?

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Giant Waffle

If you wish to be rude, or to play games, go find a mirror
and see if the person you see there would appreciate it.
And if the person you find in that mirror wouldn't, then
you know why I have ended my conversation with you.
Rather, I have chosen to ignore and forget you, at least
until you learn some common decency and respect.