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Is This Really Intelligent Design? |
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Budikka
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| Title: Is This Really Intelligent Design? |
02 Jun 2006 07:04:45 PM |
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If you study the Bible carefully enough you should notice that the
creation
account can imply the evolution process.
And this can be found without going deeper into the understanding the
Bible.
Ignoring such a possibility shows how thoughtless man can be .
Later studies of the Bible with more elaborate understanding
confirmes
this possibility .
Simply God is behind the evolutionary processes .
The whole universe evolved and life evolved .
There might have been numerous universes before the one we have now.
There is only one world and this world is physical and forever.
God is behind the universe as acting force and all things including
the spiritual can be explained believing there is one universe .
Whatever science discovers it will always confrim it is God working in
nature
and every kind of evolution will mean God working in nature .
The evolution theory niecely fits the account of creation by God and
atheists that doubt that should be sentenced to death for denying God's
creation.
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| User: "Sam" |
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04 Jun 2006 11:42:07 AM |
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<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
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If you study the Bible carefully enough you should notice that the
creation
account can imply the evolution process.
And this can be found without going deeper into the understanding the
Bible.
If you study the bible carefully enough you should notice that the creation
account is basically the same as all the other near eastern creation
accounts with polytheistic themes seperated from their naturalistic
representations.
Well, almost seperated, Gen 1 still says that the elohim/gods (plural) were
responsible for creation, same as all the other near eastern creation
account.
<snip wishfull thinking>
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| User: "Precision" |
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03 Jun 2006 02:41:15 AM |
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<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1149293085.579850.303500@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
If you study the Bible carefully enough you should notice that the
creation
account can imply the evolution process.
And this can be found without going deeper into the understanding the
Bible.
Ignoring such a possibility shows how thoughtless man can be .
Later studies of the Bible with more elaborate understanding
confirmes
this possibility .
Simply God is behind the evolutionary processes .
The whole universe evolved and life evolved .
There might have been numerous universes before the one we have now.
There is only one world and this world is physical and forever.
God is behind the universe as acting force and all things including
the spiritual can be explained believing there is one universe .
Whatever science discovers it will always confrim it is God working in
nature
and every kind of evolution will mean God working in nature .
The evolution theory niecely fits the account of creation by God and
atheists that doubt that should be sentenced to death for denying God's
creation.
You always amaze me, Obves, because on one end of the spectrum, your posts
predicting new dates seem puzzling, yet this post about evolution is in the
other end of the spectrum, and your comment on past universes is amazingly
insightful.
If Jehovah God has lived forever in the past, without a beginning, surely
there must have been endless universes, endless "big bangs" and past
civilizations living under different laws of physics existing beyond our
most vivid imaginations.
The only thing you said that I believe you should rethink is this:
Should atheists "be sentenced to death for denying God's creation"?
If you think it through to the end, Obves, the answer is logically "no".
Atheists are like Thomas who demanded to touch Jesus Christ as proof of
Christ's existence. They deserve proof AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET IT.
Then they can decide whose side to take.
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| User: "Milan" |
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| Title: Re: Is This Really Intelligent Design? |
03 Jun 2006 07:11:17 AM |
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"Precision" <precision@usenet.com> wrote in message
news:1149320086_7045@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1149293085.579850.303500@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
If you study the Bible carefully enough you should notice that the
creation
account can imply the evolution process.
And this can be found without going deeper into the understanding the
Bible.
Ignoring such a possibility shows how thoughtless man can be .
Later studies of the Bible with more elaborate understanding
confirmes
this possibility .
Simply God is behind the evolutionary processes .
The whole universe evolved and life evolved .
There might have been numerous universes before the one we have now.
There is only one world and this world is physical and forever.
God is behind the universe as acting force and all things including
the spiritual can be explained believing there is one universe .
Whatever science discovers it will always confrim it is God working in
nature
and every kind of evolution will mean God working in nature .
The evolution theory niecely fits the account of creation by God and
atheists that doubt that should be sentenced to death for denying God's
creation.
You always amaze me, Obves, because on one end of the spectrum, your posts
predicting new dates seem puzzling, yet this post about evolution is in
the
other end of the spectrum, and your comment on past universes is amazingly
insightful.
If Jehovah God has lived forever in the past, without a beginning, surely
there must have been endless universes, endless "big bangs" and past
civilizations living under different laws of physics existing beyond our
most vivid imaginations.
The only thing you said that I believe you should rethink is this:
Should atheists "be sentenced to death for denying God's creation"?
If you think it through to the end, Obves, the answer is logically "no".
Atheists are like Thomas who demanded to touch Jesus Christ as proof of
Christ's existence. They deserve proof AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET IT.
Then they can decide whose side to take.
Is this proof going to show up this side of the grave?
regards
Milan
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| User: "Precision" |
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03 Jun 2006 11:58:08 PM |
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"Milan" <mtklima@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Precision" <precision@usenet.com> wrote in message
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<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
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If you study the Bible carefully enough you should notice that the
creation
account can imply the evolution process.
And this can be found without going deeper into the understanding the
Bible.
Ignoring such a possibility shows how thoughtless man can be .
Later studies of the Bible with more elaborate understanding
confirmes
this possibility .
Simply God is behind the evolutionary processes .
The whole universe evolved and life evolved .
There might have been numerous universes before the one we have now.
There is only one world and this world is physical and forever.
God is behind the universe as acting force and all things including
the spiritual can be explained believing there is one universe .
Whatever science discovers it will always confrim it is God working in
nature
and every kind of evolution will mean God working in nature .
The evolution theory niecely fits the account of creation by God and
atheists that doubt that should be sentenced to death for denying God's
creation.
You always amaze me, Obves, because on one end of the spectrum, your
posts
predicting new dates seem puzzling, yet this post about evolution is in
the
other end of the spectrum, and your comment on past universes is
amazingly
insightful.
If Jehovah God has lived forever in the past, without a beginning, surely
there must have been endless universes, endless "big bangs" and past
civilizations living under different laws of physics existing beyond our
most vivid imaginations.
The only thing you said that I believe you should rethink is this:
Should atheists "be sentenced to death for denying God's creation"?
If you think it through to the end, Obves, the answer is logically "no".
Atheists are like Thomas who demanded to touch Jesus Christ as proof of
Christ's existence. They deserve proof AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET IT.
Then they can decide whose side to take.
Is this proof going to show up this side of the grave?
Absolutely.
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| User: "Milan" |
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| Title: Re: Is This Really Intelligent Design? |
08 Jun 2006 07:11:37 PM |
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"Precision" <precision@usenet.com> wrote in message
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"Milan" <mtklima@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Precision" <precision@usenet.com> wrote in message
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<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
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If you study the Bible carefully enough you should notice that the
creation
account can imply the evolution process.
And this can be found without going deeper into the understanding the
Bible.
Ignoring such a possibility shows how thoughtless man can be .
Later studies of the Bible with more elaborate understanding
confirmes
this possibility .
Simply God is behind the evolutionary processes .
The whole universe evolved and life evolved .
There might have been numerous universes before the one we have now.
There is only one world and this world is physical and forever.
God is behind the universe as acting force and all things including
the spiritual can be explained believing there is one universe .
Whatever science discovers it will always confrim it is God working
in
nature
and every kind of evolution will mean God working in nature .
The evolution theory niecely fits the account of creation by God and
atheists that doubt that should be sentenced to death for denying
God's
creation.
You always amaze me, Obves, because on one end of the spectrum, your
posts
predicting new dates seem puzzling, yet this post about evolution is in
the
other end of the spectrum, and your comment on past universes is
amazingly
insightful.
If Jehovah God has lived forever in the past, without a beginning,
surely
there must have been endless universes, endless "big bangs" and past
civilizations living under different laws of physics existing beyond
our
most vivid imaginations.
The only thing you said that I believe you should rethink is this:
Should atheists "be sentenced to death for denying God's creation"?
If you think it through to the end, Obves, the answer is logically
"no".
Atheists are like Thomas who demanded to touch Jesus Christ as proof of
Christ's existence. They deserve proof AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET IT.
Then they can decide whose side to take.
Is this proof going to show up this side of the grave?
Absolutely.
Any idea about the date and place? Will it be in the papers? I await your
response with anxiety.
regards
Milan
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: Is This Really Intelligent Design? |
08 Jun 2006 07:18:29 PM |
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Milan wrote:
"Precision" <precision@usenet.com> wrote in message
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"Milan" <mtklima@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Precision" <precision@usenet.com> wrote in message
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<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
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If you study the Bible carefully enough you should notice that the
creation
account can imply the evolution process.
And this can be found without going deeper into the understanding the
Bible.
Ignoring such a possibility shows how thoughtless man can be .
Later studies of the Bible with more elaborate understanding
confirmes
this possibility .
Simply God is behind the evolutionary processes .
The whole universe evolved and life evolved .
There might have been numerous universes before the one we have now.
There is only one world and this world is physical and forever.
God is behind the universe as acting force and all things including
the spiritual can be explained believing there is one universe .
Whatever science discovers it will always confrim it is God working
in
nature
and every kind of evolution will mean God working in nature .
The evolution theory niecely fits the account of creation by God and
atheists that doubt that should be sentenced to death for denying
God's
creation.
You always amaze me, Obves, because on one end of the spectrum, your
posts
predicting new dates seem puzzling, yet this post about evolution is in
the
other end of the spectrum, and your comment on past universes is
amazingly
insightful.
If Jehovah God has lived forever in the past, without a beginning,
surely
there must have been endless universes, endless "big bangs" and past
civilizations living under different laws of physics existing beyond
our
most vivid imaginations.
The only thing you said that I believe you should rethink is this:
Should atheists "be sentenced to death for denying God's creation"?
If you think it through to the end, Obves, the answer is logically
"no".
Atheists are like Thomas who demanded to touch Jesus Christ as proof of
Christ's existence. They deserve proof AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET IT.
Then they can decide whose side to take.
Is this proof going to show up this side of the grave?
Absolutely.
Any idea about the date and place? Will it be in the papers? I await your
response with anxiety.
He's very imprecise, isn't he?! LoL!
Budikka
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| User: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Charli=EB?=" |
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03 Jun 2006 04:04:11 PM |
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<OBVES@aol.com> wrote in message
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The evolution theory niecely fits the account of creation by God and
atheists that doubt that should be sentenced to death for denying God's
creation.
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Since you also claimed that smokers should be put to death, you are quite a
salesperson for Christianity. Anyone wonder about the Crusades, the
Inquisition,... why so many people are atheists and agnostics?
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CH......
What the world needs is not dogma but an attitude of scientific
inquiry combined with a belief that the torture of millions is
not desirable, whether inflicted by Stalin or by a Deity imagined
in the likeness of the believer. ~ Bertrand Russell ~
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| User: "Phÿltêr" |
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02 Jun 2006 11:14:47 PM |
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"OBVES@aol.com" <OBVES@aol.com> had me ROTFL with:
news:1149293085.579850.303500@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
The evolution theory niecely fits the account of creation by God and
atheists that doubt that should be sentenced to death for denying God's
creation.
It's all about the "killin' fer gawd" isn't it. You have more in common with
muslims than you would like.
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Phÿltêr
Alt.Atheism #1938
Plonked by Fred Stone 17/03/2006
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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03 Jun 2006 07:56:43 AM |
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wrote:
If you study the Bible carefully enough you should notice that
1. It describes a **SIX DAY CREATION* not a 4 billion year evolution.
2. The order of creation does not match the order various life
appeared on Earth.
3. There was no global flood.
the
creation
account can imply the evolution process.
Not unless you are extraordinarily creative and even then it doesn't
fit.
And this can be found without going deeper into the understanding the
Bible.
What's to understand? Scientifically ignorant scribes and poor
historians told a story of the Jews with mythology thrown in. It
really is that simple.
Ignoring such a possibility shows how thoughtless man can be .
Well, "man" was just as thoughtless when he wrote the Bible and
invented god. Duhh.
Later studies of the Bible with more elaborate understanding
confirmes
this possibility .
I'd be delighted to debate that with you right here. Please post your
scientifically valid evidence supporting your claim. I'll be more than
happy to knock it flat.
Simply God is behind the evolutionary processes .
There is no god. Here are 666 reasons why:
Parts 1-5 at: http://tinyurl.com/6uhnl
Part 6 at: http://tinyurl.com/3ms66
Parts 7-11 at: http://tinyurl.com/5yhjn
Part 12 at: http://tinyurl.com/5ndow
Parts 13-15 at: http://tinyurl.com/65x6g
Parts 16-25 at: http://tinyurl.com/3jmrq
Parts 26-42 at: http://tinyurl.com/4569y
Parts 43-50 at: http://tinyurl.com/6hkax
Parts 51-55 at: http://tinyurl.com/48abq
Parts 56-65 at: http://tinyurl.com/4a95v
Parts 66-70 at: http://tinyurl.com/3jyxg
Parts 70-78 at: http://tinyurl.com/3jyxg
Parts 79-90 at: http://tinyurl.com/6aa8l
Parts 91-99 at: http://tinyurl.com/6xnhh
Parts 100-119 at: http://tinyurl.com/9fcsw
Parts 120-139 at: http://tinyurl.com/bp8za
Parts 140-155 at: http://tinyurl.com/72vlr
Parts 156-170 at: http://tinyurl.com/d3ubb
Parts 171-174 at: http://tinyurl.com/8jcja
Parts 175-189 at: http://tinyurl.com/cuvxb
Parts 190-199 at: http://tinyurl.com/9uo6f
Parts 200-219 at: http://tinyurl.com/8tsrg
Parts 220-235 at: http://tinyurl.com/a9rc2
Parts 236-245 at: http://tinyurl.com/b9of7
Parts 246-254 at: http://tinyurl.com/cz9yq
Parts 255-280 at: http://tinyurl.com/aze8x
Parts 281-299 at: http://tinyurl.com/7dn3s
Parts 300-325 at: http://tinyurl.com/bj4mu
Parts 326-360 at: http://tinyurl.com/8unme
Parts 361-400 at: http://tinyurl.com/89tdu
Parts 401-500 at: http://tinyurl.com/8un3t
Parts 501-550 at: http://tinyurl.com/8snjp
Parts 551-600 at: http://tinyurl.com/nakgj
Parts 601-640 at: http://tinyurl.com/lrzuz
Parts 641-666 at: http://tinyurl.com/pjjg7
The whole universe evolved and life evolved .
Duhh. But you know, we wouldn't know that if it were not for science,
since religion did not, cannot, tell us anything about it.
There might have been numerous universes before the one we have now.
Duhh. But where does it mention *this* in the Bible? Nowhere.
There is only one world and this world is physical and forever.
Lie. There are worlds all over the galaxy as scientists have been
discovering
God is behind the universe as acting force and all things including
the spiritual can be explained believing there is one universe .
I'd be dleighted to debate the existence of this god of yours. Please
post your best evidence supporting your claim right here and I'll be
more than happy to knock it flat, if it isn't flat already.
Whatever science discovers it will always confrim it is God working in
nature
Never seen that happen, but I'm sure you have a host of examples you
will post right here in your very next response.
and every kind of evolution will mean God working in nature .
Uh-huh. Prove it.
The evolution theory niecely fits
Neicely fits? Are there no nephews involved?
the account of creation by God and
atheists that doubt that should be sentenced to death for denying God's
creation.
LoL. What a shining example of the love of god you truly are.
You know what? I hope there *is* a god. And I hope I go to Hell so I
can spend eternity laughing in your faces as you suffer eternal misery
doing nothing but slavishly worshipping that child-murdering
schizophrenic psychopathic god you're so obsessively addicted to.
Budikka
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03 Jun 2006 12:40:20 AM |
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wrote:
Snip.
The evolution theory niecely fits the account of creation by God and
atheists that doubt that should be sentenced to death for denying God's
creation.
You threatenting me, cretin? I shoot back. There's no religion 9mm of
lead right between the eyes won't cure.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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| User: "Brian E. Clark" |
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02 Jun 2006 11:01:12 PM |
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In article <1149293085.579850.303500
@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, said...
If you study the Bible carefully enough you should
notice that the creation account can imply the
evolution process.
How odd that in 2000 years of Christian theology, no one ever
arrived at such an exegesis -- until after Darwin had published
his theory of origins.
We're told that many modern scientific ideas lie lurking in the
verses of the Bible, awaiting only the proper interpretation to
make their meaning clear. Their import, alas, is always post
facto. In two millennia of close inspection of the scriptures,
why has no one ever uncovered these truths before the scientists
did?
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Brian E. Clark
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| User: "johac" |
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04 Jun 2006 12:51:47 AM |
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In article <1149293085.579850.303500@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"OBVES@aol.com" <OBVES@aol.com> wrote:
<snip garbage>
The evolution theory niecely fits the account of creation by God and
atheists that doubt that should be sentenced to death for denying God's
creation.
Hey Look! Another example of Christian charity!
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Gator" |
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02 Jun 2006 07:07:37 PM |
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OBVES@aol.comstout turd-bandit who likes hardhearted relaxation rubdowns
with sea horses
If you study the Bible carefully enough you should notice that the
creation account can imply the evolution process.
Why should I notice that the creation account can imply the evolution
process, OBVES@aol.com?
And this can be found without going deeper into the understanding the
Bible.
Without changing.
Ignoring such a possibility shows how thoughtless man can be.
What other strange actions do you expect of men, OBVES@aol.com?
Later studies of the Bible with more elaborate understanding confirmes
this possibility.
The longer you stay around, the less you have to do.
Simply God is behind the evolutionary processes.
Haleluja!
The whole universe evolved and life evolved.
Life is like that, too.
There might have been numerous universes before the one we have now.
Why now?
There is only one world and this world is physical and forever.
There's so much anti-Semitism.
God is behind the universe as acting force and all things including
the spiritual can be explained believing there is one universe.
Haleluja!
Whatever science discovers it will always confrim it is God working in
nature and every kind of evolution will mean God working in nature.
It's grotesque.
The evolution theory niecely fits the account of creation by God and
atheists that doubt that should be sentenced to death for denying
God's creation.
Are you afraid of dying?
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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02 Jun 2006 07:24:39 PM |
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On 2 Jun 2006 17:04:45 -0700, "OBVES@aol.com" <OBVES@aol.com> wrote:
If you study the Bible carefully enough you should notice that the
creation
account can imply the evolution process.
Not if you understand evolution.
And this can be found without going deeper into the understanding the
Bible.
Who gives a ***** what the bible says?
Ignoring such a possibility shows how thoughtless man can be .
There's nothingto ignore, moron.
Later studies of the Bible with more elaborate understanding
confirmes
this possibility .
Only if you are stupid.
Simply God is behind the evolutionary processes .
Proveit exists to be behind anyuthing. When you realise you can't,
stop embarrassing yourself.
The whole universe evolved and life evolved .
There might have been numerous universes before the one we have now.
There is only one world and this world is physical and forever.
God is behind the universe as acting force and all things including
the spiritual can be explained believing there is one universe .
Figments of your deluded imagination can't be behind anything.
Whatever science discovers it will always confrim it is God working in
nature
and every kind of evolution will mean God working in nature .
Liar.
The evolution theory niecely fits the account of creation by God and
Liar.
atheists that doubt that should be sentenced to death for denying God's
creation.
Moron.
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| User: "Gator" |
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02 Jun 2006 07:37:02 PM |
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Christopher A. Leeuneducated fuckboy who likes demeaning pork pounding
with voles
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If you want to leave, I can guarantee you won't find nobody else like
me.
Nothing. They still haven't gotten over my leather fetish.
Maybe you deserved it.
Not if you understand evolution.
If you can resist complaining to people and boring them with your
troubles, you have reached the same level of development as my pet rock.
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It adds up.
My parents aren't married.
Really, Lee?
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You look familiar to me.
Who gives a ***** what the bible says?
I'm busy. You're ugly. Have a nice day.
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As always.
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Cutting men's testicles.
There's nothingto ignore, moron.
Do us all a favour, and shut that gaping, tartar-encrusted penis
receptacle that you call a mouth; you are a puss-filled cyst in the
colon of society.
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Take a step back.
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It's an artefact, and I don't take ***** from anyone.
Can't drive on expressway..anxiety
Why bother to keep on going, Lee? You cannot get through life on your
own strength. You will keep failing and you will go deeper and deeper
into despair. Kill yourself.
Only if you are stupid.
Why is intelligence so highly rated?
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Outright misrepresentation of the facts, Lee.
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I think you should apologize.
Proveit exists to be behind anyuthing.
To the stars?
When you realise you can't, stop embarrassing yourself.
I most certainly can stop embarrassing myself, Lee.
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My vibrator is bigger than that, and it has a higher IQ too.
My laxatives still aren't working.
If it's itchy, don't scratch it.
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Sociopathic megalomaniac.
Figments of your deluded imagination can't be behind anything.
My ***** is big, but yours just has to dominate the whole landscape.
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Fat *****.
I feel REALLY hot when I'm anxious..anyone else????
Eh? Are you serious?
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How do you sum up your entire life?
when will this depression ever go away???
The only solution to your problem is a capsule labelled 'Cyanide'.
Liar.
Can you prove that, Lee?
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It's frustrating.
Yes, I'm confused about my sexual orientation.
Right, well. Thanks for sharing, Lee.
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Take more Mental Health Days.
Liar.
No, it is definitely you who is a liar, Lee.
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What he lacks in size, he makes up for in speed.
what's wrong with me? i salivate excessively like drooling all the
time!
Pass.
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It's something else.
Moron.
I feel sorry for you because you are so ugly but I feel even sorrier for
other people because they have to look at you.
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03 Jun 2006 12:06:56 AM |
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On 02 Jun 2006 12:37:02 -1200, "Gator" <gator@the.swamp> wrote:
Christopher A. Leeuneducated fuckboy who likes demeaning pork pounding
with voles
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If you want to leave, I can guarantee you won't find nobody else like
For which we should all be eternally grateful.
Now, why don't you address what people are actually saying instead of
trying (unsuccessfully) to be a comedian?
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| User: "Gator" |
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03 Jun 2006 12:16:48 AM |
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John Bakertumourous receptive gay male who likes explicit sexual climax
with possums
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I've had many cases of love that were just infatuation, but this hate I
feel for you is the real thing.
For which we should all be eternally grateful.
Which you should all be eternally grateful? You have no idea what is
going on here, do you, Baker?
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What a great discussion.
Now, why don't you address what people are actually saying instead of
trying (unsuccessfully) to be a comedian?
People are living in different stages of history.
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| User: "Brian E. Clark" |
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03 Jun 2006 11:02:09 AM |
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In article <05BE2375.02DA484D.A69D248A.7B2F1116
@alt.movies.obtrusive.hostess>, Gator said...
Now, why don't you address what people are actually saying instead of
trying (unsuccessfully) to be a comedian?
People are living in different stages of history.
You seem to be stuck somewhere between Australopithecus
afarensis and Homo habilis.
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| User: "SeppoP" |
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05 Jun 2006 11:30:56 PM |
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Brian E. Clark wrote:
In article <05BE2375.02DA484D.A69D248A.7B2F1116
@alt.movies.obtrusive.hostess>, Gator said...
Now, why don't you address what people are actually saying instead of
trying (unsuccessfully) to be a comedian?
People are living in different stages of history.
You seem to be stuck somewhere between Australopithecus
afarensis and Homo habilis.
Somewhere between a length of 2x4 and a brick, rather.
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Seppo P.
What's wrong with Theocracy? (a Finnish Taliban, Oct 1, 2005)
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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02 Jun 2006 10:25:25 PM |
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On 2 Jun 2006 17:04:45 -0700, "OBVES@aol.com" <OBVES@aol.com> wrote:
If you study the Bible carefully enough you should notice that the
creation
account can imply the evolution process.
And this can be found without going deeper into the understanding the
Bible.
Ignoring such a possibility shows how thoughtless man can be .
Later studies of the Bible with more elaborate understanding
confirmes
this possibility .
Simply God is behind the evolutionary processes .
The whole universe evolved and life evolved .
There might have been numerous universes before the one we have now.
There is only one world and this world is physical and forever.
God is behind the universe as acting force and all things including
the spiritual can be explained believing there is one universe .
Whatever science discovers it will always confrim it is God working in
nature
and every kind of evolution will mean God working in nature .
Very good, now go tell your creationist cousins to go get a clue.
The evolution theory niecely fits the account of creation by God and
atheists that doubt that should be sentenced to death for denying God's
creation.
Sentenced to death? Didn't we kick your Nazi ***** in WWII?
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2473 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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"Ahhhhhh, yessssssss, ummmmmmm - Alito, Alito, Alito"
-duke (duckgumbo@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 59
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge,who pussied
out of the Vietnam draft, showing his gay side
despite his avowed anti-gay bigotry
Contact duke's priest and ask
him why duke is such a racist:
http://www.stpatrickbr.org/
Father Gerard "Jerry" Martin
stpatrickbr<AT>bellsouth<DOT>net
Saint Patrick Catholic Church
12424 Brogdon Lane
Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70816
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02 Jun 2006 08:12:05 PM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
http://photos1.blogger.com/img/137/3111/1024/Extinct.jpg
If extinction is part of the design goals, yes. Human engineers
specifically design obsolescence, and in the grand scheme, for a
dynamic instead of a static world, so relying on extinction by itself
to discredit ID is a bad move.
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| User: "Tim K." |
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02 Jun 2006 09:53:08 PM |
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"AlanS" <none@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
http://photos1.blogger.com/img/137/3111/1024/Extinct.jpg
If extinction is part of the design goals, yes. Human engineers
specifically design obsolescence, and in the grand scheme, for a
dynamic instead of a static world, so relying on extinction by itself
to discredit ID is a bad move.
Except that evolution predicts extinction, and all that "perfect" *****
that goes along with the god stuff sorta precludes it.
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| User: "AlanS" |
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02 Jun 2006 11:27:18 PM |
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"Tim K." <timkozz@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
"AlanS" <none@nowhere.com> wrote in message
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
http://photos1.blogger.com/img/137/3111/1024/Extinct.jpg
If extinction is part of the design goals, yes. Human engineers
specifically design obsolescence, and in the grand scheme, for a
dynamic instead of a static world, so relying on extinction by itself
to discredit ID is a bad move.
Except that evolution predicts extinction, and all that "perfect" *****
that goes along with the god stuff sorta precludes it.
1. The judeo-christian myth doesn't claim perfection - not in this
world anyway. Au contraire, it explicitly says man is not perfect.
2. Even so, perfection doesn't "sorta" preclude dynamic behaviour. In
fact, arguably, a dynamic system is harder to design and maintain a
static one, so an evolving system may be consider closer to
perfection. Plus, a dynamic system will appear as static to an
observer who is "beyond" time.
You are close on one point, however. Predictivity is a big plus for a
theory. Nonetheless, creation myths are not scientific theories, so in
general, religions are immune to this line of attack. But if you are
arguing with an IDer who claims ID is a scientific theory, ask him
what testable predictions his "theory" makes.
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| User: "Tim K." |
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02 Jun 2006 11:30:12 PM |
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"AlanS" <none@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"Tim K." <timkozz@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
"AlanS" <none@nowhere.com> wrote in message
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
http://photos1.blogger.com/img/137/3111/1024/Extinct.jpg
If extinction is part of the design goals, yes. Human engineers
specifically design obsolescence, and in the grand scheme, for a
dynamic instead of a static world, so relying on extinction by itself
to discredit ID is a bad move.
Except that evolution predicts extinction, and all that "perfect" *****
that goes along with the god stuff sorta precludes it.
1. The judeo-christian myth doesn't claim perfection - not in this
world anyway. Au contraire, it explicitly says man is not perfect.
I was referring to the god usually held responsible for it all, not people.
Context; it's a wonderful thing.
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| User: "AlanS" |
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03 Jun 2006 07:26:08 AM |
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On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 04:30:12 GMT, "Tim K." <timkozz@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
"AlanS" <none@nowhere.com> wrote in message
"Tim K." <timkozz@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
"AlanS" <none@nowhere.com> wrote in message
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
Except that evolution predicts extinction, and all that "perfect" *****
that goes along with the god stuff sorta precludes it.
1. The judeo-christian myth doesn't claim perfection - not in this
world anyway. Au contraire, it explicitly says man is not perfect.
I was referring to the god usually held responsible for it all, not people.
Context; it's a wonderful thing.
God's perfection doesn't preclude humans, nor anything else, from
being imperfect.
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| User: "Tim K." |
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03 Jun 2006 09:36:23 AM |
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"AlanS" <none@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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God's perfection doesn't preclude humans, nor anything else, from
being imperfect.
IOW: God is so perfect he can be imperfect - sorry pal, but that's idiotic.
But idiotic is what most attempts to rationalize faith in mythology become.
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| User: "AlanS" |
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03 Jun 2006 04:42:09 PM |
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"Tim K." <timkozz@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
"AlanS" <none@nowhere.com> wrote in message
God's perfection doesn't preclude humans, nor anything else, from
being imperfect.
IOW: God is so perfect he can be imperfect - sorry pal, but that's idiotic.
Can a perfect God *not* create imperfect things? Show your work if
such is your claim.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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05 Jun 2006 11:47:43 AM |
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"AlanS" <none@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"Tim K." <timkozz@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
"AlanS" <none@nowhere.com> wrote in message
God's perfection doesn't preclude humans, nor anything else, from
being imperfect.
IOW: God is so perfect he can be imperfect - sorry pal, but that's
idiotic.
Can a perfect God *not* create imperfect things? Show your work if
such is your claim.
Can you please prove that any gods exist first? Thank you.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "AlanS" |
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05 Jun 2006 09:53:53 PM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"AlanS" <none@nowhere.com> wrote in message
"Tim K." <timkozz@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
"AlanS" <none@nowhere.com> wrote in message
God's perfection doesn't preclude humans, nor anything else, from
being imperfect.
IOW: God is so perfect he can be imperfect - sorry pal, but that's
idiotic.
Can a perfect God *not* create imperfect things? Show your work if
such is your claim.
Can you please prove that any gods exist first?
No. Any other silly requests?
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