| Topic: |
Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"Cyde Weys" |
| Date: |
30 Sep 2003 09:20:33 PM |
| Object: |
Is this satire or is this real? |
Obviously Actor2 is the atheist foil ... but is Actor1 for real?!
21:20| Actor2: Taking a break from Midnight Club II?
21:21| Actor1: yes
21:21| Actor1: I was at IV
21:21| Actor1: Inter Varsity
21:21| Actor2: What's that?
21:21| Actor1: a christian group on campus
21:21| Actor2: Uh oh, you one of those religious types?
21:21| Actor1: yes
21:21| Actor2: What do they do?
21:21| Actor1: we sing
21:21| Actor1: and then have a speaker
21:21| Actor2: lol
21:21| Actor2: You sing?
21:21| Actor1: yes
21:21| Actor2: I never pictured you singing
21:22| Actor1: seems funny doesn
21:22| Actor1: t
21:22| Actor1: it
21:22| Actor1: yeah
21:22| Actor1: I do
21:22| Actor2: What do you mean a speaker?
21:22| Actor2: Do you sing for other people, like a choir?
21:22| Actor1: just someone who talks about something relevant to the group
21:22| Actor2: Like what's relevant to the group?
21:22| Actor1: like tonight
21:22| Actor1: a lady talked about
21:23| Actor1: how one of the goals for the group was to reach
out/include/make more friends with everyone
21:23| Actor1: especially people who are different from us
21:23| Actor2: I know a good way to meet people different from you.
21:23| Actor1: go to the cultural center?
21:23| Actor2: Stop going to a club that's full of a bunch of people
that are all the same as you ;-)
21:23| Actor1: yeah
21:23| Actor1: that's part of it
21:24| Actor1: but you need to go to the group meetings to fellowship
with people who have the same beliefs as you do
21:24| Actor1: not that it's the only thing you have to do
21:24| Actor1: or most important
21:25| Actor1: I'm going to play midnight club2
21:25| Actor2: How often do you guys meet?
21:25| Actor1: umm
21:25| Actor2: Ugh
21:25| Actor1: tuesdays
21:25| Actor2: Don't they teach you to beat addictions in that club?
21:25| Actor2: How long do the meetings last?
21:25| Actor2: And do you also have to go to church on the weekends?
21:25| Actor1: like an hour to an hour and a half
21:25| Actor1: you don't have to go to church on weekends
21:25| Actor2: Do you?
21:25| Actor1: IV isn't really a church
21:25| Actor1: I do go to church
21:25| Actor2: But you don't have to
21:25| Actor1: no
21:26| Actor2: So why go?
21:26| Actor1: to get plugged into a group of people that can build you
up in your faith
21:26| Actor2: Umm, maybe this seems like a lame question
21:26| Actor2: But why do you want to build up your faith?
21:26| Actor1: that's ok
21:27| Actor1: to make it stronger
21:27| Actor2: Isn't it fine the way it is?
21:27| Actor2: Why artificially inflate it with others' opinions?
21:27| Actor1: why would it be artificial?
21:27| Actor2: Well, maybe artificial isn't the best word
21:28| Actor2: But, they're not your own
21:28| Actor1: ok
21:28| Actor2: I.e. your faith is one way
21:28| Actor2: But then you go into a group of a lot of people
21:28| Actor2: And they change your faith
21:28| Actor1: they don't really change your faith
21:28| Actor1: but keep you focused
21:28| Actor1: on your purpose in life
21:28| Actor2: What's your purpose in life?
21:29| Actor1: to serve God
21:29| Actor2: Ohhhhhh
21:29| Actor1: and to tell others about him
21:29| Actor1: something like that
21:29| Actor2: I thought you were gonna say something like, "help others:
21:29| Actor2: "help others"
21:29| Actor1: that's part of it
21:29| Actor1: too
21:29| Actor2: What do you mean, "serve God"?
21:29| Actor2: Isn't he omniscient? Why does he need servants?
21:29| Actor1: yes
21:29| Actor2: Actually, I think I meant omnipotent.
21:29| Actor1: he is everywhere
21:30| Actor1: you could say that we are serving God by helping others
21:30| Actor2: Oh
21:30| Actor1: you can serve him by doing what he wants us to do
21:30| Actor1: like help other people
21:30| Actor2: What does he want us to do?
21:31| Actor2: (And why he? Couldn't it be she?)
21:31| Actor1: he wants us to help others and tell them about him
21:31| Actor1: he?
21:31| Actor1: who?
21:31| Actor1: God?
21:31| Actor2: Umm, yeah
21:31| Actor2: God
21:31| Actor2: Why not she?
21:31| Actor2: Or is it both
21:31| Actor1: something in the Bible
21:31| Actor1: I think
21:31| Actor2: I guess if "it" is everywhere, then it'd have to be both
genders
21:31| Actor2: Otherwise that'd lead to some rather awkward situations
21:31| Actor1: but I don't know if it matters that much
21:31| Actor2: God is a "he" but he's in the girls' bathroom! Ahhhhh!!!!
21:32| Actor1: that's funny
21:32| Actor2: You see the inherent problems :-)
21:32| Actor1: not really
21:32| Actor1: no
21:32| Actor1: he is an all powerful, all knowing, being
21:32| Actor2: Oh okay, so anyway, part about serving God you said was
"Telling others"
21:32| Actor1: I haven't thought too much about it
21:32| Actor1: yes
21:32| Actor2: Wow, you go to church every week, and you haven't thought
about this stuff?
21:32| Actor2: Why does God need people to spread the word for him/her?
21:33| Actor1: about God being a she?
21:33| Actor2: Well, the gender of God is kind of important
21:33| Actor1: ok
21:33| Actor1: I'm pretty sure he is a he
21:33| Actor2: If God is everywhere, Omniscient, and Omnipotent, why
would he/she/it need people to spread the word?
21:34| Actor2: Keep in mind, God is above our plane of existence ...
he/she/it/other could just be pretending to be a "he" for us but it's
actually a "she"
21:34| Actor1: ok, whatever
21:34| Actor2: God works in mysterious ways, so maybe it's a "she" but
she lets on that she's a "he"
21:34| Actor1: ok
21:34| Actor2: See, I don't go to church so I don't get to think of all
this stuff
21:35| Actor1: so you were asking why God needs people to spread the word
21:35| Actor2: Yeah
21:35| Actor1: I'm thinking of how to answer it in the best way
21:35| Actor2: Ok
21:35| Actor1: let me start at the beginning
21:35| Actor1: we believe that man is inherently evil
21:36| Actor1: God is perfect
21:36| Actor2: I'm just thinking, if God is all-powerful, why should
he/she/it/other really care if people believe in him/her/it/other?
21:36| Actor2: Why is man inherently evil?
21:36| Actor1: because God cares for humans
21:36| Actor2: That's kind of a "glass half empty" outlook on life.
21:36| Actor1: ok
21:37| Actor2: If God created us, shouldn't that have made us perfect
like him/her/both/it/other?
21:37| Actor1: everyone does wrong stuff
21:37| Actor1: we believe that man was perfect after God created everything
21:37| Actor2: Yeah but just because you make a few mistakes that makes
you evil?
21:37| Actor1: even if you do something wrong like once a day
21:37| Actor2: I'd think if you're mostly good and you only make a few
mistakes, you wouldn't be evil
21:38| Actor1: that's like atleast a million things wrong by the end of
your life
21:38| Actor2: Is masturbating wrong?
21:38| Actor1: I think so
21:38| Actor2: ***** I'M EVIL
21:38| Actor2: Anyway
21:38| Actor1: so God is perfect
21:38| Actor1: man is not perfect
21:38| Actor2: Ok
21:39| Actor1: God can't stand sin
21:39| Actor2: Why not?
21:39| Actor1: because it is entirely against who he is
21:39| Actor2: If God is perfect, wouldn't you think
he/she/it/undecided/both/other would be able to stand anything?
21:39| Actor1: so he has to judge those who have done wrong
21:39| Actor1: no
21:40| Actor1: you're saying that a perfect being has to be tolerant of
everything
21:40| Actor2: Oh
21:40| Actor2: Okay I guess that doesn't make sense
21:40| Actor2: So God doesn't tolerate certain things
21:40| Actor1: yes
21:40| Actor1: things that go against who he is
21:40| Actor1: anything that he thinks is wrong
21:40| Actor1: so he has to judge those who do wrong
21:40| Actor2: Umm, if God made the universe to be perfect - why are we
even capable of doing things that go against who he is?
21:41| Actor1: he gave man a choice when he created him
21:41| Actor2: And man said, "I wanna be evil"?!?!
21:41| Actor1: when he created man, he wanted some one who could be a friend
21:41| Actor1: basically
21:41| Actor1: so man had a choice
21:42| Actor1: anyway
21:42| Actor1: the consequence of doing wrong stuff is death
21:42| Actor2: Yeah
21:42| Actor2: Everyone dies
21:42| Actor1: yeah
21:42| Actor1: but
21:42| Actor2: Huh
21:42| Actor1: God didn't want us all to die
21:42| Actor2: So if you never do anything wrong in your entire life
you'll live forever?
21:42| Actor1: so that's where Jesus comes in
21:42| Actor1: yes
21:43| Actor2: Are animals capable of doing wrong?
21:43| Actor1: but it's impossible for man not to ever do anything wrong
21:43| Actor1: we don't believe that animals have a soul
21:43| Actor1: so they don't really know what right and wrong is
21:43| Actor2: I don't think soul is relevant to whether or not animals
can do wrong
21:43| Actor1: they have instinct
21:43| Actor2: What about monkeys. They're almost as smart as human.
They know that killing another monkey in the same tribe is wrong.
21:44| Actor2: So if they kill a monkey from their tribe, have they
committed wrong?
21:44| Actor1: I don't think so
21:44| Actor1: although it is bad I guess
21:44| Actor1: how do they know that killing other monkeys is bad?
21:44| Actor2: What if a male monkey crashes a rock on a female monkey's
head, rapes her, tears her into shreads, and then eats her? Isn't that
wrong?
21:45| Actor1: would a monkey do that?
21:45| Actor2: Yeah, it has been observed in the wild.
21:45| Actor2: Like humans, some monkeys are born with mental illnesses.
21:45| Actor1: hmmm
21:45| Actor1: I don't know
21:45| Actor1: so back to the all men deserve to die
21:45| Actor2: If someone has a mental illness from birth ... and they
do something wrong, have they committed wrong?
21:45| Actor2: Or do they simply not know better?
21:46| Actor2: What about a child of the age of 2? He certainly doesn't
know right from wrong ... can you really judge their actions at that age?
21:46| Actor1: I think yes
21:46| Actor1: yeah
21:46| Actor1: that
21:46| Actor1: s
21:46| Actor1: another point
21:46| Actor2: Wouldn't a kind, understanding God realize that babies
don't know morality, and wouldn't judge them wrong for doing things they
don't understand?
21:46| Actor1: in the Bible there is something about the age of discernment
21:46| Actor2: Oh
21:47| Actor1: so after that age, you're responsible
21:47| Actor2: But different peoples' brains mature at different rates
.... so shouldn't each person have a unique age of discernment?
21:47| Actor1: yes
21:47| Actor1: I think it's different
21:47| Actor2: And how do you know when that is?
21:47| Actor2: I never noticed any change like that hit me.
21:47| Actor2: Kind of like a slippery slope argument.
21:47| Actor2: How do you know exactly where the transition is?
21:48| Actor1: at some point in your life, I'm sure you realized that
doing certain stuff was wrong and you shouldn't do it
21:48| Actor2: Is it like, 4.5745 years old - not responsible, 4.5746
years old - BOOM! you're capable of doing wrong
21:48| Actor1: like disobeying your parents
21:48| Actor2: What if my parents order me to kill someone ... if I
follow their order, I'm committing a wrong, but if I disobey them, I'm
still committing a wrong
21:48| Actor2: That's a paradox
21:48| Actor2: Situations like that basically make you evil and it's not
your fault
21:49| Actor1: yeah
21:49| Actor1: that is a problem
21:49| Actor1: but sometimes
21:49| Actor1: like if the government tells you to do something wrong
21:49| Actor1: the Bible teaches to obey the government
21:49| Actor2: It's certainly not a kind universe if you can become evil
just because of what other people do to you!
21:50| Actor2: What kind of a government did they have in 1AD?
21:50| Actor1: the Roman government
21:50| Actor2: Do you obey the Roman government?
21:50| Actor1: no
21:50| Actor1: why does that matter?
21:50| Actor2: YOU'RE GOING TO HELL!!!
21:50| Actor2: Or has the interpretation of the Bible changed since then?
21:51| Actor1: I think it means the current government
21:51| Actor1: but if the government tells you to do something that God
has said is wrong, you do what God says
21:51| Actor2: Yeah, but what if the government orders you to go to war
in Iraq ... do you go, or do you not go?
21:51| Actor1: and you're doing the right thing
21:52| Actor1: I think I would go
21:52| Actor2: Yeah, but part of going to war means you have to kill people.
21:52| Actor2: And isn't killing people bad?
21:52| Actor1: I wouldn't want to kill anyone thoguh
21:52| Actor1: yes
21:52| Actor2: Yeah, but you wouldn't have a choice, if you're staring
down an enemy soldier and he has a gun.
21:52| Actor2: Either you pull the trigger or he kills you.
21:52| Actor2: Not pulling the trigger is basically suicide - and isn't
suicide committing a wrong?
21:52| Actor1: yeah
21:52| Actor1: yes
21:52| Actor1: I don't know
21:53| Actor2: Too confusing!
21:53| Actor1: yeah
21:53| Actor2: It seems like you're evil 3 ways over in that situation
no matter what you do.
21:53| Actor1: but you can't exactly be a total pacifist either
21:53| Actor2: If you kill someone in self-defense, is it wrong?
21:53| Actor1: yes, I think so
21:54| Actor1: not really if it's an accident
21:54| Actor2: So if you kill someone by accident it's not a wrong
21:54| Actor1: no
21:54| Actor1: because you didn't want to kill them
21:54| Actor1: at least that's part of it
21:55| Actor1: but I mean, you can't just go waving a loaded gun around
a crowed place
21:55| Actor2: So intentions matter
21:55| Actor1: that would be kind of stupid
21:55| Actor1: yes
21:55| Actor1: I think they do
21:55| Actor2: Like if I'm just intending at shooting a car but I
accidentally kill the person inside, I'm not evil
21:55| Actor2: Because I didn't intend to kill someone
21:55| Actor2: I only intended to shoot the car
21:55| Actor2: And shooting a car isn't against the 10 commandments.
21:55| Actor1: I would think you were stupid
21:55| Actor2: Stupid maybe, but not evil.
21:56| Actor1: if you really didn't want to shoot the person
21:56| Actor2: So then how come our U.S. government would try me on
murder charges?
21:56| Actor2: I only meant to shoot the car.
21:56| Actor1: and you thought that there was no chance you could shoot them
21:56| Actor1: then it's an accident
21:56| Actor1: hmmm
21:56| Actor2: Do you obey the ten commandments?
21:57| Actor1: because you being a smart human being
21:57| Actor1: knew the risk involved of just trying to shoot the car
21:57| Actor1: even though there were people inside
21:57| Actor2: And it's pretty obvious that if you don't obey the ten
commandments you're going to hell, right?
21:57| Actor1: I try to obey the 10 comandments
21:57| Actor1: that's not all of it
21:57| Actor2: "Do, there is no try" <--- wise words from Yoda
21:58| Actor1: well no one is perfect
21:58| Actor1: and so back to the God has to judge man
21:58| Actor2: But if you regurlarly violated one of the 10 commandments
you'd be going to hell, right? Like if you killed someone once a week?
"Well, no one is perfect ,that's the only commandment he broke ..."
21:58| Actor1: because he has done evil
21:58| Actor1: just a second
21:58| Actor1: let me explain this
21:58| Actor2: ok
21:58| Actor1: man is going to hell because he has done evil
21:58| Actor1: God doesn't want that to happen
21:59| Actor1: even though it is man's own choice to do evil
21:59| Actor2: So it is the natural order of things that all men go to
hell ... but God intervenes and stops some people from going to hell?
21:59| Actor1: so he comes to earth in the person of Jesus
21:59| Actor1: yes
21:59| Actor2: So God is a disruptor of the natural order?
21:59| Actor1: by sending Jesus
21:59| Actor1: not disrupting
21:59| Actor1: so Jesus comes
21:59| Actor1: lives a perfect life
21:59| Actor1: then basically he dies
21:59| Actor2: Dude, he got NAILED to a CROSS!!
21:59| Actor2: That's not a perfect life!
21:59| Actor1: yeah
21:59| Actor2: In fact, that's a very sucky life!
21:59| Actor1: ???
22:00| Actor1: yeah
22:00| Actor1: but he didn't do anything wrong
22:00| Actor2: If I got nailed to a cross, I'd be like, "*****, what a
sucky life!"
22:00| Actor1: but it wasn't a sucky life
22:00| Actor1: he had a purpose
22:00| Actor2: But he did do something wrong - he disobeyed the Roman
government of the time.
22:00| Actor1: how?
22:00| Actor2: He spread his religion after they told him to stop.
22:00| Actor2: The Romans were very clear about this. They said, "Stop
spreading this new religion. It is causing unrest."
22:01| Actor1: you mean the religous leaders of the day told him to stop
22:01| Actor2: Christ disobeyed the government.
22:01| Actor2: And they killed him.
22:01| Actor1: the government didn't tell him to stop
22:01| Actor2: Back in those times, governments weren't secular ... the
religious leaders WERE part of the government.
22:01| Actor1: Sing wants to know if your dad was a Jew?
22:01| Actor2: No
22:01| Actor1: ok
22:01| Actor2: I don't see how that's relevant :-/
22:02| Actor1: sing just came into the room
22:02| Actor2: Oh
22:02| Actor2: Tell him "hi" for me.
22:02| Actor1: and saw that we were talking about religion
22:02| Actor1: ok
22:02| Actor1: ok
22:02| Actor1: but remember I said that sometimes
22:02| Actor2: Hey Sing: he hasn't been playing MC2 for over 40 minutes
now because of me.
22:02| Actor1: the government goes against god
22:02| Actor1: and in that case
22:02| Actor1: you obey God
22:02| Actor2: Oh
22:02| Actor1: so anyway
22:02| Actor2: And since Jesus WAS God, it was pretty clear who he was
supposed to obey.
22:03| Actor2: But what about me?
22:03| Actor1: Jesus lived a life without doing anything wrong
22:03| Actor1: yes
22:03| Actor2: How do I know who to obey?
22:03| Actor1: ok just a second
22:03| Actor1: let me finish
22:03| Actor1: so Jesus died
22:03| Actor2: If I hear voices in my head, that just makes me
schizophrenic ...
22:03| Actor1: and he payed the penalty
22:03| Actor2: *paid
22:03| Actor2: Go on
22:03| Actor1: of the wrong that we did
22:03| Actor2: Cool, so I'm absolved of all of my sin now?
22:03| Actor1: then 3 days later he rose from the dead
22:03| Actor1: and because of that
22:03| Actor1: we have a hope that he can save us
22:03| Actor1: and wash away our sin
22:04| Actor1: so basically
22:04| Actor2: Isn't he like a zombie now or something?
22:04| Actor2: If he was dead for 3 days, he'd be pretty rotten
22:04| Actor1: he went back up to heaven
22:04| Actor1: he had the same body
22:04| Actor2: Ohhh and in heaven they have great doctors that make you
good as new?
22:04| Actor1: so in a way probably
22:04| Actor2: What if he had stayed dead for longer than 3 days ...
much longer ... how could he have come back to life if he had totally
decomposed?
22:04| Actor1: well I don't think he took the physical body back to heaven
22:04| Actor2: Ohhh so the physical body stayed on Earth.
22:05| Actor1: I don't know
22:05| Actor2: So theoretically we could dig up the body of Christ
somewhere in Bethlehem or wherever?
22:05| Actor1: maybe it just poofed
22:05| Actor1: and was gone
22:05| Actor1: no
22:05| Actor1: I'm not sure
22:05| Actor1: but he went up into heaven
22:05| Actor2: Nothing in my life experience suggests that bodies can
just poof out of existence --- you talking about spontaneous combustion
or something?
22:05| Actor1: ok
22:05| Actor1: maybe the body was fixed up
22:05| Actor1: and was made perfect
22:05| Actor1: to go into heaven
22:06| Actor2: Cause nonperfect things can't exist inside of heaven, right?
22:06| Actor2: If heaven is perfect and all
22:06| Actor1: yes
22:06| Actor1: yeah
22:06| Actor2: Wouldn't it make everything inside of it perfect?
22:06| Actor2: Ok
22:06| Actor1: yes
22:06| Actor1: so anyway
22:06| Actor2: So they didn't even need to fix up the badly decomposed body
22:06| Actor1: Jesus paid the price for what we've done wrong
22:06| Actor2: They just brought it into heaven and it became perfect
22:06| Actor1: I guess
22:07| Actor1: so if we place our faith in him to save us
22:07| Actor1: then we can go to heaven
22:07| Actor1: and that had something to do with what we were talking
about earlier
22:07| Actor2: lol
22:07| Actor1: I have to study my math
22:07| Actor1: I have a test tomorrow
22:07| Actor2: Wait, one second
22:07| Actor1: o
22:07| Actor2: I have one more question
22:07| Actor1: ok
22:07| Actor1: sure
22:07| Actor2: You try to obey all the commandments, right?
22:08| Actor1: yes
22:08| Actor2: What did you do last Sunday?
22:08| Actor1: go to church
22:08| Actor1: what are you drawing me into?
22:08| Actor2: How did you get to Church?
22:08| Actor1: a car
22:08| Actor2: A car?!?!
22:08| Actor1: yes
22:08| Actor1: a friends car
22:08| Actor2: 8. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10. But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it
thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy
manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that
is within thy gates:
11. For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all
that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed
the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
22:08| Actor2: YOU'RE GOING TO HELL
22:08| Actor2: (I think)
22:08| Actor1: it wasn't any work to drive there
22:08| Actor1: besides
22:09| Actor2: Yeah, but did you do any homeWORK on Sunday?
22:09| Actor1: Jesus healed a man on the Sabbathh
22:09| Actor2: homeWORK?
22:09| Actor1: I don't remember
22:09| Actor1: maybe
22:09| Actor1: but anyway
22:09| Actor2: Yeah but if you did, wouldn't that be violating the Sabbath?
22:09| Actor1: the point is
22:09| Actor2: That's one of God's TEN COMMANDMENTS!
22:09| Actor2: Right there in the Bible!
22:09| Actor1: that we set apart and make special a day where we can
worship God
22:09| Actor2: Jesus could break the Commandments (such as healing a guy
on Sunday) because he WAS God.
22:09| Actor1: yes, it would
22:09| Actor1: but that applies to us too
22:09| Actor2: But other people don't get that same luxury.
22:10| Actor2: Ummm Jordan, you're not God.
22:10| Actor1: just a second
22:10| Actor2: Who gave you the right to do work on the Sabbath?
22:12| Actor1: ok
22:12| Actor1: I'll tell you when I remember
22:12| Actor2: Ok
22:12| Actor2: Good luck studying for math.
22:12| Actor1: thanks
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: Is this satire or is this real? |
06 Oct 2003 10:17:45 AM |
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I can't say, but it is obvious that whoever wrote the script is ignorant of the
basic Jewish teachings of Jesus' day. It was the Sadducees -- the ones who made
money selling sacrificial animals in the Temple -- who claimed that ANY work on
the Sabbath was a sin. The Pharisees, who would survive to become the founders
of modern Judaism, claimed that it was a bigger sin to NOT heal on the Sabbath,
for even the Sabbath takes a backseat to saving a human life. And despite all of
the latter anti-Pharisee rhetoric, Jesus' parables and miracles all present the
established Pharisee doctrine of the day. To say that "Jesus could break the
Commandments (such as healing a guy on Sunday) because he WAS God" is to say
that each and every Pharisee in 30 CE was likewise God.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
Is your faith so weak and your god so powerless
that, without government endorsement of your
religion, all hell will break loose?
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| User: "Levy Oates" |
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| Title: Re: Is this satire or is this real? |
01 Oct 2003 12:12:46 AM |
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:20:33 -0400, Cyde Weys <cyde@umd.edu> wrote:
Obviously Actor2 is the atheist foil ... but is Actor1 for real?!
Sorry, as a child of the TV age, I have a limited attention span...
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Archdeacom Levy Oates
On behalf of the Prophet Eric Peabody (pbuh)
Basingstoke, England
http://www.angelfire.com/alt/bumblism/
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| User: "Charles & Mambo" |
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01 Oct 2003 01:39:07 AM |
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Levy Oates wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:20:33 -0400, Cyde Weys <cyde@umd.edu> wrote:
Obviously Actor2 is the atheist foil ... but is Actor1 for real?!
Sorry, as a child of the TV age, I have a limited attention span...
You took the words right of out of my
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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01 Oct 2003 01:54:13 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 01 Oct 2003 06:39:07 GMT, a stranger
called by some Charles & Mambo <Duckman@get.lost> came forth and told
this tale in alt.atheism
Levy Oates wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:20:33 -0400, Cyde Weys <cyde@umd.edu> wrote:
Obviously Actor2 is the atheist foil ... but is Actor1 for real?!
Sorry, as a child of the TV age, I have a limited attention span...
You took the words right of out of my
Geez, you guys are so long-winded, I... oohhh! something shiny!
Everything I needed to know about life I learned from a pet ferret.
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Bob Moss" |
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03 Oct 2003 05:22:13 PM |
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Douglas Berry wrote:
Geez, you guys are so long-winded, I... oohhh! something shiny!
Everything I needed to know about life I learned from a pet ferret.
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Look Nerd boy, I perfer a rabbit's way of looking at things.
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