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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: ""
Date: 28 Dec 2006 01:21:31 AM
Object: Is this true about lutheranism?
Check this out. Yesterday on CTN steve gray of "steve and kathy" world
revival church kansas city, mo says this (paraphrasing somewhat):
1) All protestants are reformed lutherans
2) The catholic church needed money and basically sold forgiveness
3) Protestants cut luther out of the loop and replaced 'indwelling
guilt with indwelling god' vis a vis Jesus
4) There were 100 points to the 96 point treatise. One was a part
about how jews are christ killing devils. A couple of others that
slipped my mind at the moment.
This all done to a parody skit of _ The simpsons _, with some possible
copyrite violations.
Oh and apparently when people dont want to hear about god, they really
dont want to hear about Martin luther.
Is it true that martin luther said that a pre-requisite for the
practice of any religon is the elimination of: friends, family and fun?
I'd hate to quote these people and find out they arent credible. I
couldnt believe what I was hearing. Whats this "We are all reformed
lutherans and protestantism broke away from catholicism".
Someone give me some cites, chapter and verse. I have to read this
thing about friend, family and fun myself. A lot of this is news to
me and I find it hard to understand how this really "helps"
protestantism if it was true. THIS is their marketing hook?
Just replace guilt with jesus?
choybalsan@gmail.com
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User: "Larry Heath"

Title: Re: Is this true about lutheranism? 29 Dec 2006 02:44:20 PM
<choybalsan@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Check this out. Yesterday on CTN steve gray of "steve and kathy" world
revival church kansas city, mo says this (paraphrasing somewhat):

1) All protestants are reformed lutherans
2) The catholic church needed money and basically sold forgiveness
3) Protestants cut luther out of the loop and replaced 'indwelling
guilt with indwelling god' vis a vis Jesus
4) There were 100 points to the 96 point treatise. One was a part
about how jews are christ killing devils. A couple of others that
slipped my mind at the moment.

This all done to a parody skit of _ The simpsons _, with some possible
copyrite violations.

Oh and apparently when people dont want to hear about god, they really
dont want to hear about Martin luther.

Is it true that martin luther said that a pre-requisite for the
practice of any religon is the elimination of: friends, family and fun?

I'd hate to quote these people and find out they arent credible. I
couldnt believe what I was hearing. Whats this "We are all reformed
lutherans and protestantism broke away from catholicism".

Someone give me some cites, chapter and verse. I have to read this
thing about friend, family and fun myself. A lot of this is news to
me and I find it hard to understand how this really "helps"
protestantism if it was true. THIS is their marketing hook?

Just replace guilt with jesus?

choybalsan@gmail.com

"All the article of our christian faith, which God has revealed to us in His
Word, are in the presence of reason shearly impossible, absurd and false.
....Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has. ...She is the devils
greatest *****... a ***** eaten by scabs and leprosy, who ought to be
trodden underfoot and destroyed, she and her wisdom...Throw dung in her
face...drown her in baptism"
-- Martin Luther
"If by any effort of reason I could conceive how God, Who shows so much
anger and iniquity, could be merciful and just, there would be no need of
faith."
-- Martin Luther
--
Later Larry
aa #2216
Plonked by Fred Stone, 17 May 2006
Imagine the people who believe such things and who are not ashamed
to ignore totally all the patient findings of thinking minds through all
the centuries since the Bible was written. And it is these ignorant
people, the most uneducated, the most unimaginative, the most unthinking
among us who would make themselves the guides and leaders of us all, who
would force their feeble and childish beliefs on us, who would invade
our schools and libraries and homes.
- Isaac Asimov
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