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"Frank" |
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24 Nov 2005 09:31:07 PM |
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Is Your Name Written |
Is your name written in the book of life?
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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25 Nov 2005 10:24:19 AM |
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Frank wrote:
Is your name written in the book of life?
No, and neither is yours. There are no names in a book which doesn't exist.
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"To his friend a man a friend shall prove,
And gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer,
And fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
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| User: "Richard Smol" |
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| Title: Re: Is Your Name Written |
25 Nov 2005 02:57:09 AM |
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Frank wrote:
Is your name written in the book of life?
Show me this "book of life" and then I will be able to answer your
question.
RS
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| User: "Twilights Dawn" |
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25 Nov 2005 03:58:32 AM |
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"Richard Smol" <jazzcat@dds.nl> wrote in message
news:1132909029.583301.269100@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Frank wrote:
Is your name written in the book of life?
Show me this "book of life" and then I will be able to answer your
question.
RS
Thomas said something to that effect. Unless I see Him with my own eyes,
and put my fingers on his nail holed hands, and lest I thrust my hand into
His side, I will not believe. I call it: "Doubting Thomas Syndrome." I'll
tell you what RS. How bout, you repent, and then you'll know the Book of
Life exists. I can't do no more than that, than wishing you eternal life.
Contrary to what some other wrote, Eternal Life is great, compared to
burning forever.
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: Is Your Name Written |
26 Nov 2005 11:01:24 AM |
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On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 09:58:32 +0000, Twilight's Dawn wrote:
"Richard Smol" <jazzcat@dds.nl> wrote in message
news:1132909029.583301.269100@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Frank wrote:
Is your name written in the book of life?
Show me this "book of life" and then I will be able to answer your
question.
RS
Thomas said something to that effect. Unless I see Him with my own eyes,
and put my fingers on his nail holed hands, and lest I thrust my hand into
His side, I will not believe. I call it: "Doubting Thomas Syndrome." I'll
tell you what RS. How bout, you repent, and then you'll know the Book of
Life exists. I can't do no more than that, than wishing you eternal life.
Contrary to what some other wrote, Eternal Life is great, compared to
burning forever.
I love the way Xtians think that demanding solid evidence to support a
preposterous story is a bad thing. You can tell that the basic ideas of
science were not yet in place when the Gospels were written. And, FWIW,
"eternal life" does not have much appeal for me, either.
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MarkA
(this space accidentally filled in)
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| User: "Hannele Huigens" |
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| Title: Re: Is Your Name Written |
25 Nov 2005 06:05:32 PM |
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Op Fri, 25 Nov 2005 10:58:32 +0100 schreef Twilight's Dawn
<aperio@frontiernet.net>:
"Richard Smol" <jazzcat@dds.nl> wrote in message
news:1132909029.583301.269100@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Frank wrote:
Is your name written in the book of life?
Show me this "book of life" and then I will be able to answer your
question.
RS
Thomas said something to that effect. Unless I see Him with my own eyes,
and put my fingers on his nail holed hands, and lest I thrust my hand
into
His side, I will not believe. I call it: "Doubting Thomas Syndrome."
I'll
tell you what RS. How bout, you repent, and then you'll know the Book of
Life exists. I can't do no more than that, than wishing you eternal
life.
Contrary to what some other wrote, Eternal Life is great, compared to
burning forever.
Well, at least Thomas supposedly was allowed to examine the evidence. So
why not show us that book you talk about?
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Hannele
aa #2221
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| User: "Richard Smol" |
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| Title: Re: Is Your Name Written |
25 Nov 2005 04:04:29 AM |
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Twilight's Dawn wrote:
"Richard Smol" <jazzcat@dds.nl> wrote in message
news:1132909029.583301.269100@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Frank wrote:
Is your name written in the book of life?
Show me this "book of life" and then I will be able to answer your
question.
RS
Thomas said something to that effect.
Thomas said nothing of the kind, since he is nothing but a fictional
character.
RS
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| User: "Richard Smol" |
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25 Nov 2005 04:06:03 AM |
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Twilight's Dawn wrote:
"Richard Smol" <jazzcat@dds.nl> wrote in message
news:1132909029.583301.269100@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Frank wrote:
Is your name written in the book of life?
Show me this "book of life" and then I will be able to answer your
question.
RS
Thomas said something to that effect. Unless I see Him with my own eyes,
and put my fingers on his nail holed hands, and lest I thrust my hand into
His side, I will not believe. I call it: "Doubting Thomas Syndrome." I'll
tell you what RS. How bout, you repent, and then you'll know the Book of
Life exists. I can't do no more than that, than wishing you eternal life.
Contrary to what some other wrote, Eternal Life is great, compared to
burning forever.
Oh, and by the way: *threatening* people into believe the crap you
believe
is not giving you many credit points.
RS
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Is Your Name Written |
25 Nov 2005 04:34:28 AM |
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Frank wrote:
Is your name written in the book of life?
The birth registry and do I have a birth certificate? Of course I do,
I was born in a modern city in a western country.
But for back-alley sprog and failed abortions like yourself, it's a
wholly different story....
Bob Dog
Atheist #153 = 1^3 + 5^3 + 3^3
EAC's chief cook and brainwasher
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"Half the bible is nothing but
who to kill and how to kill them."
- 2, The Ranting Gryphon
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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25 Nov 2005 06:03:31 AM |
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On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 04:34:28 -0600, wrote
(in article <1132914868.484092.281780@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>):
Frank wrote:
Is your name written in the book of life?
The birth registry and do I have a birth certificate? Of course I do,
I was born in a modern city in a western country.
So was I, but I don't have a birth certificate, the Navy hospital burned down
shortly after. (This made life a bit awkward when I joined the Navy, and got
a drivers license, and got a Social Security card.)
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Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
³Fillin' in the biblical cracks with the spackle of speculation, I
see.³-GlennGlenn
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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25 Nov 2005 05:17:23 AM |
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In article <%zvhf.3288$aA2.902@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote:
Is your name written in the book of life?
I couldn't care less if I tried.
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Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "johac" |
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25 Nov 2005 01:49:01 AM |
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In article <%zvhf.3288$aA2.902@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote:
Is your name written in the book of life?
Yeah, but they spelled it wrong.
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Twilights Dawn" |
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25 Nov 2005 03:33:43 AM |
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"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-3A6C6D.23490124112005@news.giganews.com...
In article <%zvhf.3288$aA2.902@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote:
Is your name written in the book of life?
Yeah, but they spelled it wrong.
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John Hachmann aa #1782
Cute. But God is an excellent Book Keeper. He knows every detail about you
Johnie boy. Repent.
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit
atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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25 Nov 2005 05:33:37 PM |
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"Twilight's Dawn" <aperio@frontiernet.net> wrote in
news:XTAhf.189$kV7.59@news02.roc.ny:
Repent.
THIN NO MORE!
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Doc Smartass XP - New Interface, Same Old *****
Brought to you by...
The Catholic Church. No, we don't like gays.
But if you're a pedo, you're PRIEST material!!
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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25 Nov 2005 09:01:16 AM |
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"Twilight's Dawn" <aperio@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:XTAhf.189$kV7.59@news02.roc.ny...
"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-3A6C6D.23490124112005@news.giganews.com...
In article <%zvhf.3288$aA2.902@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote:
Is your name written in the book of life?
Yeah, but they spelled it wrong.
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John Hachmann aa #1782
Cute. But God is an excellent Book Keeper. He knows every detail about
you
Johnie boy. Repent.
Is he aware that you're an obnoxious pain in the *****?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "Ph˙ltêr" |
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| Title: Re: Is Your Name Written |
26 Nov 2005 02:01:37 AM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> astounded us with:
news:3uon9oF121poeU1@individual.net:
"Twilight's Dawn" <aperio@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:XTAhf.189$kV7.59@news02.roc.ny...
"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-3A6C6D.23490124112005@news.giganews.com...
In article <%zvhf.3288$aA2.902@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote:
Is your name written in the book of life?
Yeah, but they spelled it wrong.
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John Hachmann aa #1782
Cute. But God is an excellent Book Keeper. He knows every detail about
you
Johnie boy. Repent.
Is he aware that you're an obnoxious pain in the *****?
Nope, but everyone HERE is!!!
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Ph˙ltêr
Alt.Atheism #1938
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
Remove "s" to respond
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
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| User: "johac" |
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25 Nov 2005 06:19:28 PM |
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In article <3uon9oF121poeU1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Twilight's Dawn" <aperio@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:XTAhf.189$kV7.59@news02.roc.ny...
"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-3A6C6D.23490124112005@news.giganews.com...
In article <%zvhf.3288$aA2.902@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote:
Is your name written in the book of life?
Yeah, but they spelled it wrong.
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John Hachmann aa #1782
Cute. But God is an excellent Book Keeper. He knows every detail about
you
Johnie boy. Repent.
Is he aware that you're an obnoxious pain in the *****?
More like a boil that is about to be lanced.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "johac" |
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25 Nov 2005 06:06:57 PM |
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In article <XTAhf.189$kV7.59@news02.roc.ny>,
"Twilight's Dawn" <aperio@frontiernet.net> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-3A6C6D.23490124112005@news.giganews.com...
In article <%zvhf.3288$aA2.902@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote:
Is your name written in the book of life?
Yeah, but they spelled it wrong.
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John Hachmann aa #1782
Cute. But God is an excellent Book Keeper. He knows every detail about you
Johnie boy. Repent.
I see. God is like Santa Claus. He's making a list.
I stopped believing in Santa Claus when I was five or six. So when are
you going to grow up?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Somniis" |
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24 Nov 2005 09:37:02 PM |
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Nope. Should it be?
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| User: "Frank" |
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24 Nov 2005 09:45:32 PM |
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Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life,
(John 3:36 NIV)
"Somniis" <lock.number@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1132889822.296850.167400@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Nope. Should it be?
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| User: "Yournameheres personal Cthulhu" |
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25 Nov 2005 04:53:09 AM |
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"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> suddenly spluttered:
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life,
(John 3:36 NIV)
So you say, and you are...?
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Conflict over the exact will/purpose/nature of God cannot ever be
resolved, since there are no facts to go on.
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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| User: "Twilights Dawn" |
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25 Nov 2005 02:55:42 AM |
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"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life,
(John 3:36 NIV)
You lost me by using the NIV. It changed 50,000 verses, and took the Blood
of Jesus clean out in Colossians. Also, one of the Translators was a
homosexual woman named Virginia Mollencott. Get you a good KJV: It's
written on a 6th Grade Reading Level. You'll be able to understand it, I'm
sure.
"Somniis" <lock.number@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1132889822.296850.167400@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Nope. Should it be?
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| User: "Olrik" |
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26 Nov 2005 12:09:47 AM |
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Twilight's Dawn wrote:
"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:wNvhf.3297$aA2.1196@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life,
(John 3:36 NIV)
You lost me by using the NIV. It changed 50,000 verses, and took the Blood
of Jesus clean out in Colossians. Also, one of the Translators was a
homosexual woman named Virginia Mollencott. Get you a good KJV: It's
written on a 6th Grade Reading Level. You'll be able to understand it, I'm
sure.
I like it when fundies argue about which English translations are the
best, as it ignores all variations in all other languages.
"Somniis" <lock.number@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1132889822.296850.167400@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Nope. Should it be?
--
Olrik
aa #1981
Qualified SMASH member
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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26 Nov 2005 01:08:20 PM |
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Olrik wrote:
Twilight's Dawn wrote:
"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:wNvhf.3297$aA2.1196@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life,
(John 3:36 NIV)
You lost me by using the NIV. It changed 50,000 verses, and took
the Blood of Jesus clean out in Colossians. Also, one of the
Translators was a homosexual woman named Virginia Mollencott. Get
you a good KJV: It's written on a 6th Grade Reading Level. You'll
be able to understand it, I'm sure.
I like it when fundies argue about which English translations are the
best, as it ignores all variations in all other languages.
Supporting the KJV over the others adds to the fun.
http://www.skypoint.com/~waltzmn/TR.html which shows how bad it is and that
modern editions are even worse.
and
http://www.baptistlink.com/godandcountry/kjv/kjv4paul.html which claims
If the King James Was Good Enough for Paul, It's Good Enough for Me!
This statement is usually made in a sarcastic manner in order to
embarrass Bible believers in their belief. The FACT is, the King James Bible
WAS good enough for Paul, as well as Peter, Luke, and Jesus Christ. "
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26 Nov 2005 03:51:22 PM |
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Mike Painter wrote:
Olrik wrote:
Twilight's Dawn wrote:
"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:wNvhf.3297$aA2.1196@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life,
(John 3:36 NIV)
You lost me by using the NIV. It changed 50,000 verses, and took
the Blood of Jesus clean out in Colossians. Also, one of the
Translators was a homosexual woman named Virginia Mollencott. Get
you a good KJV: It's written on a 6th Grade Reading Level. You'll
be able to understand it, I'm sure.
I like it when fundies argue about which English translations are the
best, as it ignores all variations in all other languages.
Supporting the KJV over the others adds to the fun.
http://www.skypoint.com/~waltzmn/TR.html which shows how bad it is and that
modern editions are even worse.
Thanks for this link. It looks interesting.
BTW, there are sometimes debates in this ng about the difference between
"murder" and "kill" in one of the ten commandments. That debate, AFAIK,
is moot in French. The bible use "tuer" (kill). The closest verb we have
to "murder" is "assassiner", which is, amusingly, a word of arab origin.
and
http://www.baptistlink.com/godandcountry/kjv/kjv4paul.html which claims
If the King James Was Good Enough for Paul, It's Good Enough for Me!
This statement is usually made in a sarcastic manner in order to
embarrass Bible believers in their belief. The FACT is, the King James Bible
WAS good enough for Paul, as well as Peter, Luke, and Jesus Christ. "
LOL!
--
Olrik
aa #1981
Qualified SMASH member
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
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26 Nov 2005 07:15:57 PM |
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:51:22 -0500, Olrik
<olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> spake thusly:
BTW, there are sometimes debates in this ng about the difference between
"murder" and "kill" in one of the ten commandments. That debate, AFAIK,
is moot in French. The bible use "tuer" (kill). The closest verb we have
to "murder" is "assassiner", which is, amusingly, a word of arab origin.
The Hebrew word means literally, "to dash in pieces"
and it implies an act of malice. To murder. There
should be no confusion, except that which people, in
their vain attempts to try to free themselves from God
make up. If I said that I killed him by dashing him
into pieces, no one would think I was talking about
the accidental taking of a life and books like Strong's
are readily available and so is free software and web
sites to look all of this stuff up.
I'm not criticizing you personally. I know that you
were just mentioning that there is a debate going on.
--
Pastor Dave
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| User: "Steve Knight" |
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26 Nov 2005 08:09:39 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:15:57 GMT, Pastor Dave
<1newsgroupmail1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:51:22 -0500, Olrik
<olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> spake thusly:
BTW, there are sometimes debates in this ng about the difference between
"murder" and "kill" in one of the ten commandments. That debate, AFAIK,
is moot in French. The bible use "tuer" (kill). The closest verb we have
to "murder" is "assassiner", which is, amusingly, a word of arab origin.
The Hebrew word means literally, "to dash in pieces"
and it implies an act of malice. To murder. There
should be no confusion, except that which people, in
their vain attempts to try to free themselves from God
make up. If I said that I killed him by dashing him
into pieces, no one would think I was talking about
the accidental taking of a life and books like Strong's
are readily available and so is free software and web
sites to look all of this stuff up.
I'm not criticizing you personally. I know that you
were just mentioning that there is a debate going on.
Oh... Look at, Dave. Purveyor of religious definitions and
malarkey.
The GOD OF LOVE actually has different meanings for killing that
mean different things and all revolve around PERFECT LOVE.
It's so cool.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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27 Nov 2005 12:33:47 AM |
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:09:39 -0800, Steve Knight
<wooly@sonic.net> spake thusly:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:15:57 GMT, Pastor Dave
<1newsgroupmail1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:51:22 -0500, Olrik
<olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> spake thusly:
BTW, there are sometimes debates in this ng about the difference between
"murder" and "kill" in one of the ten commandments. That debate, AFAIK,
is moot in French. The bible use "tuer" (kill). The closest verb we have
to "murder" is "assassiner", which is, amusingly, a word of arab origin.
The Hebrew word means literally, "to dash in pieces"
and it implies an act of malice. To murder. There
should be no confusion, except that which people, in
their vain attempts to try to free themselves from God
make up. If I said that I killed him by dashing him
into pieces, no one would think I was talking about
the accidental taking of a life and books like Strong's
are readily available and so is free software and web
sites to look all of this stuff up.
I'm not criticizing you personally. I know that you
were just mentioning that there is a debate going on.
Oh... Look at, Dave. Purveyor of religious definitions and
malarkey.
The GOD OF LOVE actually has different meanings for killing that
mean different things and all revolve around PERFECT LOVE.
In other words, you have no specific point to make.
The discussion was about a specific word in a specific
passage, but you knew that and figured you'd be an
idiot and try to antagonize people anyway.
Goodbye.
--
Pastor Dave
Remove the "123" and "321"
from email to email me.
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| User: "Steve Knight" |
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27 Nov 2005 08:09:49 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 06:33:47 GMT, Pastor Dave
<123newsgroup-mail321@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:09:39 -0800, Steve Knight
<wooly@sonic.net> spake thusly:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:15:57 GMT, Pastor Dave
<1newsgroupmail1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:51:22 -0500, Olrik
<olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> spake thusly:
BTW, there are sometimes debates in this ng about the difference between
"murder" and "kill" in one of the ten commandments. That debate, AFAIK,
is moot in French. The bible use "tuer" (kill). The closest verb we have
to "murder" is "assassiner", which is, amusingly, a word of arab origin.
The Hebrew word means literally, "to dash in pieces"
and it implies an act of malice. To murder. There
should be no confusion, except that which people, in
their vain attempts to try to free themselves from God
make up. If I said that I killed him by dashing him
into pieces, no one would think I was talking about
the accidental taking of a life and books like Strong's
are readily available and so is free software and web
sites to look all of this stuff up.
I'm not criticizing you personally. I know that you
were just mentioning that there is a debate going on.
Oh... Look at, Dave. Purveyor of religious definitions and
malarkey.
The GOD OF LOVE actually has different meanings for killing that
mean different things and all revolve around PERFECT LOVE.
In other words, you have no specific point to make.
The discussion was about a specific word in a specific
passage, but you knew that and figured you'd be an
idiot and try to antagonize people anyway.
Goodbye.
The point is as clear as the one on your head, Dave. Your god kills
and has different 'meanings' for it. That's like saying, 'I didn't
rape you because I loved you while I was doing it.'
When are you going to wake up and stop making excuses for the
monster you love? You're like Bush spinning Freedom and Iraq in the
same sentence.
I'll wake up tomorrow and I'll still be fine and you'll still be an
idiot.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Is Your Name Written |
28 Nov 2005 11:13:45 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 18:09:49 -0800, Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net>
wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 06:33:47 GMT, Pastor Dave
<123newsgroup-mail321@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:09:39 -0800, Steve Knight
<wooly@sonic.net> spake thusly:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:15:57 GMT, Pastor Dave
<1newsgroupmail1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:51:22 -0500, Olrik
<olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> spake thusly:
BTW, there are sometimes debates in this ng about the difference between
"murder" and "kill" in one of the ten commandments. That debate, AFAIK,
is moot in French. The bible use "tuer" (kill). The closest verb we have
to "murder" is "assassiner", which is, amusingly, a word of arab origin.
The Hebrew word means literally, "to dash in pieces"
and it implies an act of malice. To murder. There
should be no confusion, except that which people, in
their vain attempts to try to free themselves from God
make up. If I said that I killed him by dashing him
into pieces, no one would think I was talking about
the accidental taking of a life and books like Strong's
are readily available and so is free software and web
sites to look all of this stuff up.
I'm not criticizing you personally. I know that you
were just mentioning that there is a debate going on.
Oh... Look at, Dave. Purveyor of religious definitions and
malarkey.
The GOD OF LOVE actually has different meanings for killing that
mean different things and all revolve around PERFECT LOVE.
In other words, you have no specific point to make.
The discussion was about a specific word in a specific
passage, but you knew that and figured you'd be an
idiot and try to antagonize people anyway.
Goodbye.
The point is as clear as the one on your head, Dave. Your god kills
and has different 'meanings' for it. That's like saying, 'I didn't
rape you because I loved you while I was doing it.'
When are you going to wake up and stop making excuses for the
monster you love? You're like Bush spinning Freedom and Iraq in the
same sentence.
I'll wake up tomorrow and I'll still be fine and you'll still be an
idiot.
When did Pissor Wave get his double doctorate (to reach the exaulted
level of idiot)?
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Is Your Name Written |
27 Nov 2005 12:02:08 AM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Dave (1newsgroupmail1
@tampabay.rr.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
BTW, there are sometimes debates in this ng about the difference between
"murder" and "kill" in one of the ten commandments. That debate, AFAIK,
is moot in French. The bible use "tuer" (kill). The closest verb we have
to "murder" is "assassiner", which is, amusingly, a word of arab origin.
The Hebrew word means literally, "to dash in pieces"
and it implies an act of malice. To murder.
Sounds pretty specific to me, Dave. The laws of human society are not so
specific. If you kill someone, you'd better have a very specific and legal
reason to do so, such as self defense. Otherwise you face a nasty trial,
and and equally nasty punishment if justice is done. Your god, on the
other hand, and according to Pastor Dave, only punishes murderers who have
dashed someone in pieces. In other words, if you've blown their head off
with a 12-gauge, welcome to heaven.
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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