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User: "666"
Date: 18 Jun 2007 10:49:34 PM
Object: Isaac Newton: World would end no earlier than 2060
Papers show Isaac Newton's religious side
June 18, 2007
JERUSALEM (AP) -- Three-century-old manuscripts by Isaac Newton
calculating the exact date of the apocalypse, detailing the precise
dimensions of the ancient temple in Jerusalem and interpreting
passages of the Bible -- exhibited this week for the first time -- lay
bare the little-known religious intensity of a man many consider
history's greatest scientist.
Newton, who died 280 years ago, is known for laying much of the
groundwork for modern physics, astronomy, math and optics. But in a
new Jerusalem exhibit, he appears as a scholar of deep faith who also
found time to write on Jewish law -- even penning a few phrases in
careful Hebrew letters -- and combing the Old Testament's Book of
Daniel for clues about the world's end.
The documents, purchased by a Jewish scholar at a Sotheby's auction in
London in 1936, have been kept in safes at Israel's national library
in Jerusalem since 1969. Available for decades only to a small number
of scholars, they have never before been shown to the public.
In one manuscript from the early 1700s, Newton used the cryptic Book
of Daniel to calculate the date for the apocalypse, reaching the
conclusion that the world would end no earlier than 2060.
"It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner," Newton
wrote. However, he added, "This I mention not to assert when the time
of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of
fanciful men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, and by
doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their
predictions fail."
In another document, Newton interpreted biblical prophecies to mean
that the Jews would return to the Holy Land before the world ends. The
end of days will see "the ruin of the wicked nations, the end of
weeping and of all troubles, the return of the Jews captivity and
their setting up a flourishing and everlasting Kingdom," he posited.
The exhibit also includes treatises on daily practice in the Jewish
temple in Jerusalem. In one document, Newton discussed the exact
dimensions of the temple -- its plans mirrored the arrangement of the
cosmos, he believed -- and sketched it. Another paper contains words
in Hebrew, including a sentence taken from the Jewish prayerbook.
Yemima Ben-Menahem, one of the exhibit's curators, said the papers
show Newton's conviction that important knowledge was hiding in
ancient texts.
"He believed there was wisdom in the world that got lost. He thought
it was coded, and that by studying things like the dimensions of the
temple, he could decode it," she said.
The Newton papers, Ben-Menahem said, also complicate the idea that
science is diametrically opposed to religion. "These documents show a
scientist guided by religious fervor, by a desire to see God's actions
in the world," she said.
More prosaic documents on display show Newton keeping track of his
income and expenses while a scholar at Cambridge and later, as master
of the Royal Mint, negotiating with a group of miners from Devon and
Cornwall about the price of the tin they supplied to Queen Anne.
The archives of Hebrew University in Jerusalem include a 1940 letter
from Albert Einstein to Abraham Shalom Yahuda, the collector who
purchased the papers a year earlier.
Newton's religious writings, Einstein wrote, provide "a variety of
sketches and ongoing changes that give us a most interesting look into
the mental laboratory of this unique thinker."
Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/06/18/newton.papers.ap/index.html
.

User: "Larry Hammick"

Title: Re: Isaac Newton: World would end no earlier than 2060 19 Jun 2007 12:09:01 AM
"666"

Papers show Isaac Newton's religious side
June 18, 2007
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/06/18/newton.papers.ap/index.html

Newton wrote many more pages on religion than he did on science. One title:
"On the Eleventh Horn of the Beast Seen by the Prophet Daniel". Pretty weird
it sounds to us, but in a sense it is inevitable that Newton would surprise
us, since he was absolutely the only one of his kind.
Newton wrote rather little on science after the age of 35, although he lived
to be 85.
I like how one person summed up Newton, more or less like so: he was not
really the first of the great modern scientists, but rather the last of the
medeival wonder-workers.
LH
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User: "mike3"

Title: Re: Isaac Newton: World would end no earlier than 2060 19 Jun 2007 04:30:27 PM
On Jun 18, 11:09 pm, "Larry Hammick" <larryhamm...@telus.net> wrote:

"666"

Papers show Isaac Newton's religious side
June 18, 2007
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/06/18/newton.papers.ap/index.html


Newton wrote many more pages on religion than he did on science. One title:
"On the Eleventh Horn of the Beast Seen by the Prophet Daniel". Pretty weird
it sounds to us, but in a sense it is inevitable that Newton would surprise
us, since he was absolutely the only one of his kind.
Newton wrote rather little on science after the age of 35, although he lived
to be 85.
I like how one person summed up Newton, more or less like so: he was not
really the first of the great modern scientists, but rather the last of the
medeival wonder-workers.
LH

You seem to think that scientists cannot be involved with
religion, that they must be cold, hard atheists with no
religion at all. Newton's theories *are* science, and
they are the basis for all the rest of physics, which has
been built on them. His religious belief does not change
their scientific validity and usefulness.
.
User: "Major Quaternion Dirt Quantum"

Title: Re: Isaac Newton: World would end no earlier than 2060 20 Jun 2007 01:59:15 PM
Newton, the secular icon of the Anglican Communion,
set the British back a 100 years in calculus
with the Royal Society defamation of Leibnitz, and his "dots;"
_Principia_ has only the rectangle, dxdy.... he was rewarded
with the minding of the mint: see the joke-commemorative,
2-pound coin with the relief on the edge.
"On the shoulders of giants," '99 minting!
Gailileo was also not much of a scientist,
with his "hereticism" created by Cardinal Bellarmine --
he had tried to get his bud, Pope Urban,
to make his work on Copernicus into some sort of writ.
well, you can hear about Leibnitz and
the American Revolution, here:
http://wlym.com/mp3/20030621-mark-liebniz.mp3

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/06/18/newton.papers.ap/index.html

really the first of the great modern scientists, but rather the last of the
medeival wonder-workers.

thus:
bicycle!... or is it a tricycle?...
wish I knew nore math, but I'd use a different coordination. also,
don't ride "no hands" on a your tricycle!
seriously, are you trying to determine both coordinates of the point
of lowest sagging for the bottom part of the chain, being driven,
with a given tension when not driven --
where is the tension in your equation, and "g" ??
OK, I can see that the pure shape, without actual links
in the chain (or teeth in the gear), can be given parametrically,
given the length etc., so ... have fun!

We have two sprockets and a chain and need to find the sag. The support points of the chain are at different elevations (different diameter sprockets). We are iterating through the following equation in Visual Basic to find a, the y-coordinate of sag measured from the horizontal centerline of the two sprockets.

2 * a * (sinh(L/(2 * a)))=(y1-y2)/sinh(arctanh((y1-y2)/S))

However, we keep getting a value above the highest support point. This equation should be valid for our scenario, so why is the solution so inaccurate?

thus:
after Bucky spent 9.37 years hacking away at the Cheese Tetrahedron
-- in order to minimize handling, oxidation etc. of his store --
he got sick of cheese & moved it ... to the root cellar.
of course, if you do aim the vectors at the vertices of the
hexahedron,
you get the four axes *voila*; they are the same system,
differently accounted. most things should probably be quantized
using the tetrahedron, firstly, why it's a "simplex." however,
like the self-duality of it, you mention, the infinite matrix
of hexahedra is self-dual, begetting its pythagorean props.
quaternions actually has four perpendiculars,
even though the "+1" of timespace is the "scalar;"
Hamilton's terminology, later deployed by Gibbs. well,
it's symmetrical with the other threee, but
they are not related to it like they are to each-other;
I mean, Time!... don't blame herr doktor-professor Minkowski,
blame Onemug -- since he seems to have agreed to that.
I mean, even Newton's dots are good for some thing,
according to Conway!
start Euclid with Hypsicles in the usual edition;
no coordination -- all construction....
how many of you have got a copy of _Modern Pure Solid Geometry_?
how many still get this maillist?
thus quoth:
which include the words: "In the future, Humanity will see in our
Epoch an Era of superstition, essentially associated with the
names of Marx, Freud and Einstein.. in which the last seven
decades of the 20th century will be characterized in history as the
dark ages of physics, which cannot be based on the field concept"
(the latter part & view is by Einstein himself, some 25 years later)

Almost everyone who has written anything about this says vectors from
the origin of the coordinate system in the directions of the
tetrahedron's vertexes should be added, but they don't add vectors
pointed in the directions of the cube's vertexes in the Cartesian
(Footnote 4: It was a mathematical requirement of XYZ rectilinear
coordination that in order to demonstrate four-dimensionality, a fourth
perpendicular to a fourth planar facet of the symmetric system must be
found--which fourth symmetrical plane of the system is not parallel to
one of the already-established three planes of symmetry of the system.
The tetrahedron, as synergetics' minimum structural system, has four
symmetrically interarrayed planes of symmetry--ergo, has four unique
perpendiculars--ergo, has four dimensions.)
http://bfi.org/node/574
http://library.wolfram.com/infocenter/search/?search_results=1;search_person_id=607

thus:
mine is a lot simpler & analogous
to the trilateral ineq.
(we uncovered this in a Buckafka Fullofit maillist,
which has since been made more private;
one of the correspondents spent some hours
to derive it by programming,
which was kinda strange .-)...
I am still not sure,
how many sets of the the basic tetrahedral inequality,
it has to satisfy, but probably six.
thus:
ah, this looks like a good exercise
for comprehending "absolute value" function,
as well as of the trilateral inequality....

| x - y | >= | |x| - |y| |
means these two things:
| x - y | >= |x| - |y|
| x - y | >= |y| - |x|

thus:
in Sudan, Iran and possibly all other once and
future British quagmires.... Belize, Canada, Trinidad
AND Tobago; when we get there,
be sure to ask if it's more than one country, and
did we miss Trinidad andOR Tobago?

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2007/05/01/pentagon_s

tudy_says_oil_reliance_strains_military?mode=PF
thus:
look, up in the sky -- it's Googoltude (TM) ?!?
http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/LCSN/Eq/20010911_WTC/WTC_LDEO_KIM.pdf
--n~nerfman~n!
.



User: "Ben Rudiak-Gould"

Title: Re: Isaac Newton: World would end no earlier than 2060 20 Jun 2007 10:18:36 AM
666 wrote:

In one manuscript from the early 1700s, Newton used the cryptic Book
of Daniel to calculate the date for the apocalypse, reaching the
conclusion that the world would end no earlier than 2060.

Given the large number of published upper bounds on the lifespan of the
world, it's good to see an occasional lower bound. Putting all these results
together, I suppose we can conclude that the world will never end, or
perhaps that it doesn't exist at all.
-- Ben
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User: "Michael Press"

Title: Re: Isaac Newton: World would end no earlier than 2060 20 Jun 2007 12:15:56 PM
In article <f5bgge$937$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk>,
Ben Rudiak-Gould <br276deleteme@cam.ac.uk> wrote:

666 wrote:

In one manuscript from the early 1700s, Newton used the cryptic Book
of Daniel to calculate the date for the apocalypse, reaching the
conclusion that the world would end no earlier than 2060.


Given the large number of published upper bounds on the lifespan of the
world, it's good to see an occasional lower bound. Putting all these results
together, I suppose we can conclude that the world will never end, or
perhaps that it doesn't exist at all.

Good evidence that the sun will expand, put out more
heat, and drive the Earth's water out in 3.1 x 10^9
years.
--
Michael Press
.
User: "quasi"

Title: Re: Isaac Newton: World would end no earlier than 2060 20 Jun 2007 06:55:02 PM
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:15:56 -0700, Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>
wrote:

In article <f5bgge$937$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk>,
Ben Rudiak-Gould <br276deleteme@cam.ac.uk> wrote:

666 wrote:

In one manuscript from the early 1700s, Newton used the cryptic Book
of Daniel to calculate the date for the apocalypse, reaching the
conclusion that the world would end no earlier than 2060.


Given the large number of published upper bounds on the lifespan of the
world, it's good to see an occasional lower bound. Putting all these results
together, I suppose we can conclude that the world will never end, or
perhaps that it doesn't exist at all.


Good evidence that the sun will expand, put out more
heat, and drive the Earth's water out in 3.1 x 10^9
years.

Perhaps we should start praying again to the Sun gods as in days of
old.
quasi
.



User: "Rich Corinthian Leather"

Title: Re: Isaac Newton: World would end no earlier than 2060 18 Jun 2007 11:03:07 PM
666 wrote:

Papers show Isaac Newton's religious side
June 18, 2007

JERUSALEM (AP) -- Three-century-old manuscripts by Isaac Newton
calculating the exact date of the apocalypse, detailing the precise
dimensions of the ancient temple in Jerusalem and interpreting
passages of the Bible -- exhibited this week for the first time -- lay
bare the little-known religious intensity of a man many consider
history's greatest scientist.

Newton, who died 280 years ago, is known for laying much of the
groundwork for modern physics, astronomy, math and optics. But in a
new Jerusalem exhibit, he appears as a scholar of deep faith who also
found time to write on Jewish law -- even penning a few phrases in
careful Hebrew letters -- and combing the Old Testament's Book of
Daniel for clues about the world's end.

The documents, purchased by a Jewish scholar at a Sotheby's auction in
London in 1936, have been kept in safes at Israel's national library
in Jerusalem since 1969. Available for decades only to a small number
of scholars, they have never before been shown to the public.

In one manuscript from the early 1700s, Newton used the cryptic Book
of Daniel to calculate the date for the apocalypse, reaching the
conclusion that the world would end no earlier than 2060.

"It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner," Newton
wrote. However, he added, "This I mention not to assert when the time
of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of
fanciful men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, and by
doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their
predictions fail."

Just another open-ended projection: the year 2060 or later, no time
certain or even a time frame!
It's all baloney.
RCL
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Isaac Newton: World would end no earlier than 2060 19 Jun 2007 04:15:55 PM
On Jun 18, 11:03 pm, Rich Corinthian Leather
<inexplica...@mysterious.net> wrote:

Just another open-ended projection: the year 2060 or later, no time
certain or even a time frame!

That's not open-ended. What is states is precise: namely that the
world will NOT end before 2060.

It's all baloney.

Both it and you are wrong. It's not wrong because it's "baloney", but
because we're already close to having the ***** hit the fan,
particularly with everybody and their sibling getting nukes;
extremists of all ideologies and religions coming to full bloom; men
the world over losing their sense of direction (e.g. women are now the
majority in college-level education worldwide filling the vacuum left
behind by males who have dropped out, in some places (like the Middle
East) thoroughly dominating the ranks of the sciences and majority of
fields; they are becoming and have become the majority of the ranks of
the managers and professions throughout the developed world (including
the US) with males nowhere to be found (e.g. take a look at the early
morning newscasts in the US); suicides (particularly amongst males)
have risen prominently worldwide since the early to mid 20th century
to the point that the WHO has now sounded the alarm bells;
testosterone poisoning has apparently pervaded the political landscape
amidst the rise of the collective insanity and atativism of this half
of the human race)
If the ***** hits the fan, there's no way this will linger all the way
out to 2060. Everything is already coming to a head now. Half the
human race is already suffering all the symptoms, collectively, of
cabin fever or restlessness of the same sort that afflicts someone
who's been cooped up for too long, without an exit -- the Rapa Nui
Syndrome or Easter Island Syndome is already upon us. Eventually, the
other half will succumb, as well. Women are not taking over, but
merely filling in the vacuum left behind by the faltering half of the
human race. But they, too, will eventually falter.
The threshold that the world succeeds (or fails) to get through is
already upon us. There's no way the world will end without it
happening no later than 2020.
.
User: "Rich Corinthian Leather"

Title: Re: Isaac Newton: World would end no earlier than 2060 19 Jun 2007 06:39:21 PM
wrote:

On Jun 18, 11:03 pm, Rich Corinthian Leather
<inexplica...@mysterious.net> wrote:

Just another open-ended projection: the year 2060 or later, no time
certain or even a time frame!


That's not open-ended. What is states is precise: namely that the
world will NOT end before 2060.

It is *indeed* open-ended because 2060 is the *starting* point of
Newton's random choice based on obscure texts. Unless he had a
comprehensive knowledge of ancient Hebrew, he didn't have any business
making predictions based on it.
RCL
.

User: "mike3"

Title: Re: Isaac Newton: World would end no earlier than 2060 19 Jun 2007 04:27:14 PM
On Jun 19, 3:15 pm,
wrote:

On Jun 18, 11:03 pm, Rich Corinthian Leather

<inexplica...@mysterious.net> wrote:

Just another open-ended projection: the year 2060 or later, no time
certain or even a time frame!


That's not open-ended. What is states is precise: namely that the
world will NOT end before 2060.

It's all baloney.


Both it and you are wrong. It's not wrong because it's "baloney", but
because we're already close to having the ***** hit the fan,
particularly with everybody and their sibling getting nukes;
extremists of all ideologies and religions coming to full bloom; men
the world over losing their sense of direction (e.g. women are now the
majority in college-level education worldwide filling the vacuum left
behind by males who have dropped out, in some places (like the Middle
East) thoroughly dominating the ranks of the sciences and majority of
fields; they are becoming and have become the majority of the ranks of
the managers and professions throughout the developed world (including
the US) with males nowhere to be found (e.g. take a look at the early
morning newscasts in the US); suicides (particularly amongst males)
have risen prominently worldwide since the early to mid 20th century
to the point that the WHO has now sounded the alarm bells;
testosterone poisoning has apparently pervaded the political landscape
amidst the rise of the collective insanity and atativism of this half
of the human race)

If the ***** hits the fan, there's no way this will linger all the way
out to 2060. Everything is already coming to a head now. Half the
human race is already suffering all the symptoms, collectively, of
cabin fever or restlessness of the same sort that afflicts someone
who's been cooped up for too long, without an exit -- the Rapa Nui
Syndrome or Easter Island Syndome is already upon us. Eventually, the
other half will succumb, as well. Women are not taking over, but
merely filling in the vacuum left behind by the faltering half of the
human race. But they, too, will eventually falter.

The threshold that the world succeeds (or fails) to get through is
already upon us. There's no way the world will end without it
happening no later than 2020.

Well, the world is about to hit rock bottom soon, yes, but I believe
that things will change then -- and we will begin to have peace. But
what sort of crap we must go through to get there I have no idea.
However, I don't think the world will end as in "bang, it's over", but
rather the present world that we know of will end, and something new
will replace it.
.


User: "Robert Israel"

Title: Re: Isaac Newton: World would end no earlier than 2060 18 Jun 2007 11:16:18 PM
Rich Corinthian Leather <inexplicable@mysterious.net> writes:

666 wrote:

Papers show Isaac Newton's religious side
June 18, 2007

JERUSALEM (AP) -- Three-century-old manuscripts by Isaac Newton
calculating the exact date of the apocalypse, detailing the precise
dimensions of the ancient temple in Jerusalem and interpreting
passages of the Bible -- exhibited this week for the first time -- lay
bare the little-known religious intensity of a man many consider
history's greatest scientist.

Newton, who died 280 years ago, is known for laying much of the
groundwork for modern physics, astronomy, math and optics. But in a
new Jerusalem exhibit, he appears as a scholar of deep faith who also
found time to write on Jewish law -- even penning a few phrases in
careful Hebrew letters -- and combing the Old Testament's Book of
Daniel for clues about the world's end.

The documents, purchased by a Jewish scholar at a Sotheby's auction in
London in 1936, have been kept in safes at Israel's national library
in Jerusalem since 1969. Available for decades only to a small number
of scholars, they have never before been shown to the public.

In one manuscript from the early 1700s, Newton used the cryptic Book
of Daniel to calculate the date for the apocalypse, reaching the
conclusion that the world would end no earlier than 2060.

He's right so far...

"It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner," Newton
wrote. However, he added, "This I mention not to assert when the time
of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of
fanciful men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, and by
doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their
predictions fail."


Just another open-ended projection: the year 2060 or later, no time
certain or even a time frame!

It's all baloney.

And what if he had predicted a precise date in 2060? Would you have
said it wasn't baloney?
--
Robert Israel

Department of Mathematics http://www.math.ubc.ca/~israel
University of British Columbia Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1Z2
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Isaac Newton: World would end no earlier than 2060 19 Jun 2007 12:09:22 AM
On Jun 18, 11:16?pm, Robert Israel
<
> wrote:

Rich Corinthian Leather <inexplica...@mysterious.net> writes:





666 wrote:

Papers show Isaac Newton's religious side
June 18, 2007


JERUSALEM (AP) -- Three-century-old manuscripts by Isaac Newton
calculating the exact date of the apocalypse, detailing the precise
dimensions of the ancient temple in Jerusalem and interpreting
passages of the Bible -- exhibited this week for the first time -- lay
bare the little-known religious intensity of a man many consider
history's greatest scientist.


Newton, who died 280 years ago, is known for laying much of the
groundwork for modern physics, astronomy, math and optics. But in a
new Jerusalem exhibit, he appears as a scholar of deep faith who also
found time to write on Jewish law -- even penning a few phrases in
careful Hebrew letters -- and combing the Old Testament's Book of
Daniel for clues about the world's end.


The documents, purchased by a Jewish scholar at a Sotheby's auction in
London in 1936, have been kept in safes at Israel's national library
in Jerusalem since 1969. Available for decades only to a small number
of scholars, they have never before been shown to the public.


In one manuscript from the early 1700s, Newton used the cryptic Book
of Daniel to calculate the date for the apocalypse, reaching the
conclusion that the world would end no earlier than 2060.


He's right so far...

How do you know? What if the End Times
have already started? They're going to
last a thousand years so there's still
plenty of time for the rivers to turn
to blood. What if the Rapture has
already taken place and God simply
removed all memory of it from your mind?
Of course, if you're still here, it
means you aren't one of the Elect.


"It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner," Newton
wrote. However, he added, "This I mention not to assert when the time
of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of
fanciful men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, and by
doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their
predictions fail."


Just another open-ended projection: the year 2060 or later, no time
certain or even a time frame!


It's all baloney.


And what if he had predicted a precise date in 2060? Would you have
said it wasn't baloney?

Sure. Newton was a heretic, he used
the book of Daniel instead of Revelations
(which everyone knows superceeded all
prior prophesies).
So everything Newton had to say was baloney.

--
Robert Israel


Department of Mathematics http://www.math.ubc.ca/~israel
University of British Columbia Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1Z2

.

User: "Rich Corinthian Leather"

Title: Re: Isaac Newton: World would end no earlier than 2060 19 Jun 2007 06:34:42 PM
Robert Israel wrote:

Rich Corinthian Leather <inexplicable@mysterious.net> writes:

666 wrote:

Papers show Isaac Newton's religious side
June 18, 2007

JERUSALEM (AP) -- Three-century-old manuscripts by Isaac Newton
calculating the exact date of the apocalypse, detailing the precise
dimensions of the ancient temple in Jerusalem and interpreting
passages of the Bible -- exhibited this week for the first time -- lay
bare the little-known religious intensity of a man many consider
history's greatest scientist.

Newton, who died 280 years ago, is known for laying much of the
groundwork for modern physics, astronomy, math and optics. But in a
new Jerusalem exhibit, he appears as a scholar of deep faith who also
found time to write on Jewish law -- even penning a few phrases in
careful Hebrew letters -- and combing the Old Testament's Book of
Daniel for clues about the world's end.

The documents, purchased by a Jewish scholar at a Sotheby's auction in
London in 1936, have been kept in safes at Israel's national library
in Jerusalem since 1969. Available for decades only to a small number
of scholars, they have never before been shown to the public.

In one manuscript from the early 1700s, Newton used the cryptic Book
of Daniel to calculate the date for the apocalypse, reaching the
conclusion that the world would end no earlier than 2060.


He's right so far...

"It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner," Newton
wrote. However, he added, "This I mention not to assert when the time
of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of
fanciful men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, and by
doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their
predictions fail."

Just another open-ended projection: the year 2060 or later, no time
certain or even a time frame!

It's all baloney.


And what if he had predicted a precise date in 2060? Would you have
said it wasn't baloney?

I would've given Newton's prediction more credence if he'd been more
specific, after all he was a scientist.
RCL
.
User: "Timothy Murphy"

Title: Re: Isaac Newton: World would end no earlier than 2060 20 Jun 2007 07:17:57 AM
Rich Corinthian Leather wrote:

I would've given Newton's prediction more credence if he'd been more
specific, after all he was a scientist.

How do you know he wasn't specific?
Have you read the documents in question?
Are their contents in fact available anywhere?
It is well-known that Newton had strange religious views,
which he very sensibly kept to himself, unlike Galileo,
thereby ensuring a long and prosperous life.
I remember reading of a "black box" of religious writing
found in his rooms at Trinity College Cambridge after his death.
(I seem to recall that Bertrand Russell wrote about this.)
Surely these documents did not finish up in Israel?
--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie
tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
.




User: "mike3"

Title: Re: Isaac Newton: World would end no earlier than 2060 19 Jun 2007 04:21:50 PM
On Jun 18, 9:49 pm, 666 <son0...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Papers show Isaac Newton's religious side
June 18, 2007

JERUSALEM (AP) -- Three-century-old manuscripts by Isaac Newton
calculating the exact date of the apocalypse, detailing the precise
dimensions of the ancient temple in Jerusalem and interpreting
passages of the Bible -- exhibited this week for the first time -- lay
bare the little-known religious intensity of a man many consider
history's greatest scientist.

Newton, who died 280 years ago, is known for laying much of the
groundwork for modern physics, astronomy, math and optics. But in a
new Jerusalem exhibit, he appears as a scholar of deep faith who also
found time to write on Jewish law -- even penning a few phrases in
careful Hebrew letters -- and combing the Old Testament's Book of
Daniel for clues about the world's end.

The documents, purchased by a Jewish scholar at a Sotheby's auction in
London in 1936, have been kept in safes at Israel's national library
in Jerusalem since 1969. Available for decades only to a small number
of scholars, they have never before been shown to the public.

In one manuscript from the early 1700s, Newton used the cryptic Book
of Daniel to calculate the date for the apocalypse, reaching the
conclusion that the world would end no earlier than 2060.

"It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner," Newton
wrote. However, he added, "This I mention not to assert when the time
of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of
fanciful men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, and by
doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their
predictions fail."

In another document, Newton interpreted biblical prophecies to mean
that the Jews would return to the Holy Land before the world ends. The
end of days will see "the ruin of the wicked nations, the end of
weeping and of all troubles, the return of the Jews captivity and
their setting up a flourishing and everlasting Kingdom," he posited.

The exhibit also includes treatises on daily practice in the Jewish
temple in Jerusalem. In one document, Newton discussed the exact
dimensions of the temple -- its plans mirrored the arrangement of the
cosmos, he believed -- and sketched it. Another paper contains words
in Hebrew, including a sentence taken from the Jewish prayerbook.

Yemima Ben-Menahem, one of the exhibit's curators, said the papers
show Newton's conviction that important knowledge was hiding in
ancient texts.

"He believed there was wisdom in the world that got lost. He thought
it was coded, and that by studying things like the dimensions of the
temple, he could decode it," she said.

The Newton papers, Ben-Menahem said, also complicate the idea that
science is diametrically opposed to religion. "These documents show a
scientist guided by religious fervor, by a desire to see God's actions
in the world," she said.

More prosaic documents on display show Newton keeping track of his
income and expenses while a scholar at Cambridge and later, as master
of the Royal Mint, negotiating with a group of miners from Devon and
Cornwall about the price of the tin they supplied to Queen Anne.

The archives of Hebrew University in Jerusalem include a 1940 letter
from Albert Einstein to Abraham Shalom Yahuda, the collector who
purchased the papers a year earlier.

Newton's religious writings, Einstein wrote, provide "a variety of
sketches and ongoing changes that give us a most interesting look into
the mental laboratory of this unique thinker."

Find this article at:http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/06/18/newton.papers.ap/index.html

Well, the only way we'll know for sure whether or not
Newton was right is when 2060 rolls around...
.
User: "Rich Corinthian Leather"

Title: Re: Isaac Newton: World would end no earlier than 2060 19 Jun 2007 06:40:10 PM
mike3 wrote:

On Jun 18, 9:49 pm, 666 <son0...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Papers show Isaac Newton's religious side
June 18, 2007

JERUSALEM (AP) -- Three-century-old manuscripts by Isaac Newton
calculating the exact date of the apocalypse, detailing the precise
dimensions of the ancient temple in Jerusalem and interpreting
passages of the Bible -- exhibited this week for the first time -- lay
bare the little-known religious intensity of a man many consider
history's greatest scientist.

Newton, who died 280 years ago, is known for laying much of the
groundwork for modern physics, astronomy, math and optics. But in a
new Jerusalem exhibit, he appears as a scholar of deep faith who also
found time to write on Jewish law -- even penning a few phrases in
careful Hebrew letters -- and combing the Old Testament's Book of
Daniel for clues about the world's end.

The documents, purchased by a Jewish scholar at a Sotheby's auction in
London in 1936, have been kept in safes at Israel's national library
in Jerusalem since 1969. Available for decades only to a small number
of scholars, they have never before been shown to the public.

In one manuscript from the early 1700s, Newton used the cryptic Book
of Daniel to calculate the date for the apocalypse, reaching the
conclusion that the world would end no earlier than 2060.

"It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner," Newton
wrote. However, he added, "This I mention not to assert when the time
of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of
fanciful men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, and by
doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their
predictions fail."

In another document, Newton interpreted biblical prophecies to mean
that the Jews would return to the Holy Land before the world ends. The
end of days will see "the ruin of the wicked nations, the end of
weeping and of all troubles, the return of the Jews captivity and
their setting up a flourishing and everlasting Kingdom," he posited.

The exhibit also includes treatises on daily practice in the Jewish
temple in Jerusalem. In one document, Newton discussed the exact
dimensions of the temple -- its plans mirrored the arrangement of the
cosmos, he believed -- and sketched it. Another paper contains words
in Hebrew, including a sentence taken from the Jewish prayerbook.

Yemima Ben-Menahem, one of the exhibit's curators, said the papers
show Newton's conviction that important knowledge was hiding in
ancient texts.

"He believed there was wisdom in the world that got lost. He thought
it was coded, and that by studying things like the dimensions of the
temple, he could decode it," she said.

The Newton papers, Ben-Menahem said, also complicate the idea that
science is diametrically opposed to religion. "These documents show a
scientist guided by religious fervor, by a desire to see God's actions
in the world," she said.

More prosaic documents on display show Newton keeping track of his
income and expenses while a scholar at Cambridge and later, as master
of the Royal Mint, negotiating with a group of miners from Devon and
Cornwall about the price of the tin they supplied to Queen Anne.

The archives of Hebrew University in Jerusalem include a 1940 letter
from Albert Einstein to Abraham Shalom Yahuda, the collector who
purchased the papers a year earlier.

Newton's religious writings, Einstein wrote, provide "a variety of
sketches and ongoing changes that give us a most interesting look into
the mental laboratory of this unique thinker."

Find this article at:http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/06/18/newton.papers.ap/index.html


Well, the only way we'll know for sure whether or not
Newton was right is when 2060 rolls around...

Unless I live to be 92 or more, I don't care.
RCL
.


User: "raven1"

Title: Re: Isaac Newton: World would end no earlier than 2060 19 Jun 2007 02:16:31 AM
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:49:34 -0700, 666 <son0fam@yahoo.com> wrote:
<snip>
Therion and I are entitled to refer to ourselves as "666" on
alt.atheism. You ain't.
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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