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12 Sep 2006 06:27:53 PM |
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Islam is not a religion |
source: http://tinyurl.com/jgf6f
Personally, I don't consider Islam a "religion"
in spite of the fact that it's allegedly
practiced by a billion people. I think that
in its current form, it's essentially a
conspiracy, a crime family, and something
that should be prosecuted under RICO and
national security statutes.
As an atheist, I think that all religions are
fantasy.... but that Islam is particularly
venomous and dangerous in its current incarnation.
Any co-called "religion" that requires coercion
to join under threat of death, that accepts and
allows the repression of women and the killing
of daughters who "dishonor" families, and who
encourages "killing the infidel" should not be
protected under our first amendment.
We should work to prohibit it where necessary
and undermine it whenever we can.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Islam is not a religion |
13 Sep 2006 09:25:29 AM |
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<simple_language@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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source: http://tinyurl.com/jgf6f
Personally, I don't consider Islam a "religion"
So?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Bill M" |
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| Title: Re: Islam is not a religion |
13 Sep 2006 11:22:27 AM |
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<simple_language@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1158103672.981337.112760@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
source: http://tinyurl.com/jgf6f
Personally, I don't consider Islam a "religion"
in spite of the fact that it's allegedly
practiced by a billion people. I think that
in its current form, it's essentially a
conspiracy, a crime family, and something
that should be prosecuted under RICO and
national security statutes.
As an atheist, I think that all religions are
fantasy.... but that Islam is particularly
venomous and dangerous in its current incarnation.
Any co-called "religion" that requires coercion
to join under threat of death, that accepts and
allows the repression of women and the killing
of daughters who "dishonor" families, and who
encourages "killing the infidel" should not be
protected under our first amendment.
We should work to prohibit it where necessary
and undermine it whenever we can.
The same could be said for Christianity!
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| User: "Sasha" |
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| Title: Re: Islam is not a religion |
12 Sep 2006 09:19:30 PM |
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wrote:
Personally, I don't consider Islam a "religion"
in spite of the fact that it's allegedly
practiced by a billion people.
Personally, I think that Porsche dealers should give me free cars every
time I walk by.
In both our cases, personal opinion is meaningless in comparison to
reality.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Islam is not a religion |
14 Sep 2006 11:12:39 AM |
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wrote:
source: http://tinyurl.com/jgf6f
Personally, I don't consider Islam a "religion"
If you have a case, please define "religion".
in spite of the fact that it's allegedly
practiced by a billion people.
Yeah, it's a lie that there's lots of muslims...sure...
I think that
in its current form, it's essentially a
conspiracy, a crime family, and something
that should be prosecuted under RICO and
national security statutes.
How is this so different than a religion, aside from the prosecution
thing that I disagree with, despite hating religion?
As an atheist,
Atheism still has an element of faith. Faith in "no god" is still
faith, so atheism is by my definition a religion. Dictionary
definitions really shy away from the real connotation subscribed to by
religion, and often contradict one another. The definition of faith is
similar, polluted by political correctness and the myth of religious
tolerance that frankly was never part of any religion. It is
essentially the abandonment of the empirical knowledge, reason and
moral responsibility one normally uses for survival in favor of
self-deception.
I think that all religions are
fantasy.... but that Islam is particularly
venomous and dangerous in its current incarnation.
Any co-called "religion" that requires coercion
to join under threat of death, that accepts and
allows the repression of women and the killing
of daughters who "dishonor" families, and who
encourages "killing the infidel" should not be
protected under our first amendment.
Yes, it should. Of course it should. The most dumbassed ideas should be
protected by a first amendment because we can't trust the fucking
dumbassed government to decide what ideas are good or bad for us. If it
were up to your concept of what the first amendment should be, you
wouldn't be allowed to say anything atheistic. Obviously there's no
such thing as "free" speech as an absolute, but it's not up to
government to dish out the consequences. Free speech in that sense is
an absolute. You can't censor certain things and still say there's a
first amendment. Choosing certain things to censor is a complete refute
to the first amendment, period. Might as well make the country an
absolute theocracy to allow the government to dictate what religion you
can follow. Yes, Islam sucks, all religions suck. But you are only
putting fuel on the fire by trying in vain to use force to bring them
down. Reason may be hopeless, but we know your way doesn't work, so
shut it.
We should work to prohibit it where necessary
and undermine it whenever we can.
I'll admit I thought you were a Christian at the beginning of this
post. Maybe it's your profound intellect. Undermine, yes. It doesn't
take a genius to undermine a religion. Prohibit, ***** no. Free speech
is allowing religion to eat itself. Atheistic and non-theistic beliefs
are becoming more and more mainstream thanks to the freedom of speech.
Religious fundamentalists are becoming a parody of themselves thanks to
freedom of speech.
OK, maybe it should be illegal to lie like George Bush and Donald
Rumsfeld in a government position, at least to the point where they
lose the position. But they're in a position of government, which is
what we're really talking about when we talk about "free speech". With
great power in the government, you should hold great responsibility.
In the government. Laws are merely a substitute for real morality. If
individuals could be trusted to be absolutely moral, we would be in an
alternative universe with no religion and no government. Allowing
people to follow unpopular beliefs without prejudice or preference is
the only logical way to allow dynamic growth. As an atheist, or really
as a person, you have no reason to reject the concept of evolution.
Evolution requires certain changes based upon new developments.
Sometimes they are good, usually they are bad, but the good tends to
outlast the bad through the process of evolution. That's the only
explanation for modern western civilization despite the fact that
people are generally retards. Say the worst you can think of about
Islam, Christianity (which has also been a pretty tough customer when
it comes to genocide) and the rest, but your attitude towards the first
amendment is some *****.
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| User: "Josh Miles" |
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| Title: Re: Islam is not a religion |
18 Sep 2006 08:08:35 PM |
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wrote:
Atheism still has an element of faith. Faith in "no god" is still
faith, so atheism is by my definition a religion.
Try learning what the "a" in "atheist" means. Atheism is simply a lack
of belief in a god. No faith necessary.
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| User: "Dana" |
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| Title: Re: Islam is not a religion |
19 Sep 2006 05:03:14 AM |
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"Josh Miles" <no@thanks.com> wrote in message
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thedeviliam@hotmail.com wrote:
Atheism still has an element of faith. Faith in "no god" is still
faith, so atheism is by my definition a religion.
Try learning what the "a" in "atheist" means. Atheism is simply a lack
of belief in a god. No faith necessary.
But atheists that have an active belief that God does not exists are not
atheists by the definition then.
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| User: "ZenIsWhen" |
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| Title: Re: Islam is not a religion |
19 Sep 2006 06:37:18 AM |
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and this is?
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=2455343&page=1
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| User: "Josh Miles" |
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| Title: Re: Islam is not a religion |
13 Sep 2006 05:52:16 AM |
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wrote:
source: http://tinyurl.com/jgf6f
Personally, I don't consider Islam a "religion"
Your opinions have no bearing on reality.
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| User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." |
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| Title: Re: Islam is not a religion |
13 Sep 2006 03:45:25 PM |
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On 12 Sep 2006 16:27:53 -0700, wrote:
source: http://tinyurl.com/jgf6f
Personally, I don't consider Islam a "religion"
and actually I don't consider you a "human"
after reading that
in spite of the fact that it's allegedly
practiced by a billion people. I think that
in its current form, it's essentially a
conspiracy,
and though you may sort of look human on the surface,
your reasoning is clearly something different
a crime family, and something
that should be prosecuted under RICO and
national security statutes.
And the Jews have big noses, drink the blood of Christian babies, and
steal all our money.
This sort of thing is a bit old by now, your kind of thinking
As an atheist, I think that all religions are
fantasy.... but that Islam is particularly
venomous and dangerous in its current incarnation.
Any co-called "religion" that requires coercion
to join under threat of death, that accepts and
allows the repression of women and the killing
of daughters who "dishonor" families, and who
encourages "killing the infidel" should not be
protected under our first amendment.
We should work to prohibit it where necessary
and undermine it whenever we can.
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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| Title: Re: Islam is not a religion |
12 Sep 2006 10:23:37 PM |
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simple_language@yahoo.com:
Any co-called "religion" that requires coercion
to join under threat of death, that accepts and
allows the repression of women and the killing
of daughters who "dishonor" families, and who
encourages "killing the infidel" should not be
protected under our first amendment.
Such crap shouldn't be protected by _any_ constitution in the world.
Oops, there they go. The jebus cult, the mohamed cult, and a plethora of
splinter groups. Even parts (ultra-orthodox) of judaism, sucked into the
void.
Oh well. Serves those suckers right. *eg*
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
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