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User: "Pumba"
Date: 11 Feb 2006 04:51:53 AM
Object: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news
"In order to express their displeasure with the idea that Muslims are
violent, thousands of Muslims around the world engaged in rioting,
arson, mob savagery, flag-burning, murder and mayhem, among other
peaceful acts of nonviolence."
Aren't Muslims just adorable?
I gotta find one to hug today.
~ ~ ~
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucac/20060209/cm_ucac/calvinandhobbesandmuhammad
CALVIN AND HOBBES -- AND MUHAMMAD
By Ann Coulter Wed Feb 8, 8:16 PM ET
As my regular readers know, I've long been skeptical of the "Religion
of Peace" moniker for Muslims -- for at least 3,000 reasons right off
the top of my head. I think the evidence is going my way this week.
ADVERTISEMENT
The culture editor of a newspaper in Denmark suspected writers and
cartoonists were engaging in self-censorship when it came to the
Religion of Peace. It was subtle things, like a Danish comedian's
statement, paraphrased by The New York Times, "that he had no problem
urinating on the Bible but that he would not dare do the same to the
Quran."
So, after verifying that his life insurance premiums were paid up, the
editor expressly requested cartoons of Muhammad from every cartoonist
with a Danish cartoon syndicate. Out of 40 cartoonists, only 10
accepted the invitation, most of them submitting utterly neutral
drawings with no political content whatsoever.
But three cartoons made political points.
One showed Muhammad turning away suicide bombers from the gates of
heaven, saying "Stop, stop -- we ran out of virgins!" -- which I
believe was a commentary on Muslims' predilection for violence. Another
was a cartoon of Muhammad with horns, which I believe was a commentary
on Muslims' predilection for violence. The third showed Muhammad with a
turban in the shape of a bomb, which I believe was an expression of
post-industrial ennui in a secular -- oops, no, wait: It was more of a
commentary on Muslims' predilection for violence.
In order to express their displeasure with the idea that Muslims are
violent, thousands of Muslims around the world engaged in rioting,
arson, mob savagery, flag-burning, murder and mayhem, among other
peaceful acts of nonviolence.
Muslims are the only people who make feminists seem laid-back.
The little darlings brandish placards with typical Religion of Peace
slogans, such as: "Behead Those Who Insult Islam," "Europe, you will
pay, extermination is on the way" and "Butcher those who mock Islam."
They warn Europe of their own impending 9/11 with signs that say:
"Europe: Your 9/11 will come" -- which is ironic, because they almost
had me convinced the Jews were behind the 9/11 attack.
The rioting Muslims claim they are upset because Islam prohibits any
depictions of Muhammad -- though the text is ambiguous on beheadings,
suicide bombings and flying planes into skyscrapers.
The belief that Islam forbids portrayals of Muhammad is recently
acquired. Back when Muslims created things, rather than blowing them
up, they made paintings, frescoes, miniatures and prints of Muhammad.
But apparently the Quran is like the Constitution: It's a "living
document," capable of sprouting all-new provisions at will. Muslims
ought to start claiming the Quran also prohibits indoor plumbing, to
explain their lack of it.
Other interpretations of the Quran forbid images of humans or animals,
which makes even a child's coloring book blasphemous. That's why the
Taliban blew up those priceless Buddhist statues, bless their innocent,
peace-loving little hearts.
Largely unnoticed in this spectacle is the blinding fact that one
nation is missing from the long list of Muslim countries (by which I
mean France and England) with hundreds of crazy Muslims experiencing
bipolar rage over some cartoons:
Iraq. Hey -- maybe this democracy thing does work! The barbaric
behavior of Europe's Muslims suggests that the European welfare state
may not be attracting your top-notch Muslims.
Making the rash assumption for purposes of discussion that Islam is a
religion and not a car-burning cult, even a real religion can't go
bossing around other people like this.
Catholics aren't short on rules, but they couldn't care less if
non-Catholics use birth control. Conservative Jews have no interest in
forbidding other people from mixing meat and dairy. Protestants don't
make a peep about other people eating food off one another's plates.
(Just stay away from our plates -- that's disgusting.)
But Muslims think they can issue decrees about what images can appear
in newspaper cartoons. Who do they think they are, liberals?
.

User: "CaptMahoney"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 15 Feb 2006 10:10:33 PM
Dont you mean "moniker for Monkeys" ?
.

User: "Ærchie"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 11 Feb 2006 05:04:36 AM
The curfew had been lifted and the gamblin' wheel shut down, Anyone with
any sense had already left town. Yet Pumba was standin' in the doorway
saying:

"In order to express their displeasure with the idea that Muslims are
violent, thousands of Muslims around the world engaged in rioting,
arson, mob savagery, flag-burning, murder and mayhem, among other
peaceful acts of nonviolence."

Aren't Muslims just adorable?

I gotta find one to hug today.

~ ~ ~

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucac/20060209/cm_ucac/calvinandhobbesandmuhammad

CALVIN AND HOBBES -- AND MUHAMMAD

By Ann Coulter Wed Feb 8, 8:16 PM ET

As my regular readers know, I've long been skeptical of the "Religion
of Peace" moniker for Muslims -- for at least 3,000 reasons right off
the top of my head. I think the evidence is going my way this week.
ADVERTISEMENT

The culture editor of a newspaper in Denmark suspected writers and
cartoonists were engaging in self-censorship when it came to the
Religion of Peace. It was subtle things, like a Danish comedian's
statement, paraphrased by The New York Times, "that he had no problem
urinating on the Bible but that he would not dare do the same to the
Quran."

So, after verifying that his life insurance premiums were paid up, the
editor expressly requested cartoons of Muhammad from every cartoonist
with a Danish cartoon syndicate. Out of 40 cartoonists, only 10
accepted the invitation, most of them submitting utterly neutral
drawings with no political content whatsoever.

But three cartoons made political points.

One showed Muhammad turning away suicide bombers from the gates of
heaven, saying "Stop, stop -- we ran out of virgins!" -- which I
believe was a commentary on Muslims' predilection for violence. Another
was a cartoon of Muhammad with horns, which I believe was a commentary
on Muslims' predilection for violence. The third showed Muhammad with a
turban in the shape of a bomb, which I believe was an expression of
post-industrial ennui in a secular -- oops, no, wait: It was more of a
commentary on Muslims' predilection for violence.

In order to express their displeasure with the idea that Muslims are
violent, thousands of Muslims around the world engaged in rioting,
arson, mob savagery, flag-burning, murder and mayhem, among other
peaceful acts of nonviolence.

Muslims are the only people who make feminists seem laid-back.

The little darlings brandish placards with typical Religion of Peace
slogans, such as: "Behead Those Who Insult Islam," "Europe, you will
pay, extermination is on the way" and "Butcher those who mock Islam."
They warn Europe of their own impending 9/11 with signs that say:
"Europe: Your 9/11 will come" -- which is ironic, because they almost
had me convinced the Jews were behind the 9/11 attack.

The rioting Muslims claim they are upset because Islam prohibits any
depictions of Muhammad -- though the text is ambiguous on beheadings,
suicide bombings and flying planes into skyscrapers.

The belief that Islam forbids portrayals of Muhammad is recently
acquired. Back when Muslims created things, rather than blowing them
up, they made paintings, frescoes, miniatures and prints of Muhammad.

But apparently the Quran is like the Constitution: It's a "living
document," capable of sprouting all-new provisions at will. Muslims
ought to start claiming the Quran also prohibits indoor plumbing, to
explain their lack of it.

Other interpretations of the Quran forbid images of humans or animals,
which makes even a child's coloring book blasphemous. That's why the
Taliban blew up those priceless Buddhist statues, bless their innocent,
peace-loving little hearts.

Largely unnoticed in this spectacle is the blinding fact that one
nation is missing from the long list of Muslim countries (by which I
mean France and England) with hundreds of crazy Muslims experiencing
bipolar rage over some cartoons:
Iraq. Hey -- maybe this democracy thing does work! The barbaric
behavior of Europe's Muslims suggests that the European welfare state
may not be attracting your top-notch Muslims.

Making the rash assumption for purposes of discussion that Islam is a
religion and not a car-burning cult, even a real religion can't go
bossing around other people like this.

Catholics aren't short on rules, but they couldn't care less if
non-Catholics use birth control. Conservative Jews have no interest in
forbidding other people from mixing meat and dairy. Protestants don't
make a peep about other people eating food off one another's plates.
(Just stay away from our plates -- that's disgusting.)

But Muslims think they can issue decrees about what images can appear
in newspaper cartoons. Who do they think they are, liberals?

.
User: "=?iso-8859-4?b?efJ3aWU=?="

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 12 Feb 2006 06:16:13 AM
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:04:36 +0800, Ærchie wrote:

Making the rash assumption for purposes of discussion that Islam is a
religion and not a car-burning cult, even a real religion can't go
bossing around other people like this.

There are no 'real' religions.

Catholics aren't short on rules, but they couldn't care less if
non-Catholics use birth control. Conservative Jews have no interest in
forbidding other people from mixing meat and dairy. Protestants don't
make a peep about other people eating food off one another's plates.
(Just stay away from our plates -- that's disgusting.)

The only reason xians don't seek to impose their beliefs on others by
force is that they are no longer in a position to do so.
As for images, go look up "reformation" and "iconoclast".
.
User: "WhewNotSaved"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 12 Feb 2006 12:44:00 PM
"yowie" <YowieBinYowie@DUS.UMIK.biz> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.02.12.12.16.08.466795@de.hond.uitlaten...

On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:04:36 +0800, Ærchie wrote:

Making the rash assumption for purposes of discussion that Islam is a
religion and not a car-burning cult, even a real religion can't go
bossing around other people like this.


There are no 'real' religions.

Catholics aren't short on rules, but they couldn't care less if
non-Catholics use birth control. Conservative Jews have no interest in
forbidding other people from mixing meat and dairy. Protestants don't
make a peep about other people eating food off one another's plates.
(Just stay away from our plates -- that's disgusting.)


The only reason xians don't seek to impose their beliefs on others by
force is that they are no longer in a position to do so.

You're not shopping in the right Walmart then


As for images, go look up "reformation" and "iconoclast".

.
User: "=?iso-8859-4?b?efJ3aWU=?="

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 13 Feb 2006 05:32:53 AM
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 10:44:00 -0800, WhewNotSaved wrote:


"yowie" <YowieBinYowie@DUS.UMIK.biz> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.02.12.12.16.08.466795@de.hond.uitlaten...

On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:04:36 +0800, Ærchie wrote:

Making the rash assumption for purposes of discussion that Islam is a
religion and not a car-burning cult, even a real religion can't go
bossing around other people like this.


There are no 'real' religions.

Catholics aren't short on rules, but they couldn't care less if
non-Catholics use birth control. Conservative Jews have no interest in
forbidding other people from mixing meat and dairy. Protestants don't
make a peep about other people eating food off one another's plates.
(Just stay away from our plates -- that's disgusting.)


The only reason xians don't seek to impose their beliefs on others by
force is that they are no longer in a position to do so.


You're not shopping in the right Walmart then

I think the nearest Walmart is about 4000 miles from Adelaide, but I don't
mind the nativity scenes in shopping centres if that's what you mean.
Excellent opportunity for public scoffing.
.


User: "Ærchie"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 11 Feb 2006 08:01:56 PM
The curfew had been lifted and the gamblin' wheel shut down, Anyone with
any sense had already left town. Yet yòwie was standin' in the doorway
saying:

On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:04:36 +0800, Ærchie wrote:

Making the rash assumption for purposes of discussion that Islam is a
religion and not a car-burning cult, even a real religion can't go
bossing around other people like this.


There are no 'real' religions.

Catholics aren't short on rules, but they couldn't care less if
non-Catholics use birth control. Conservative Jews have no interest in
forbidding other people from mixing meat and dairy. Protestants don't
make a peep about other people eating food off one another's plates.
(Just stay away from our plates -- that's disgusting.)


The only reason xians don't seek to impose their beliefs on others by
force is that they are no longer in a position to do so.

As for images, go look up "reformation" and "iconoclast".

They were not my words - - -
Hey, I agree with you. Religion is a fraud. A dangerous, deadly fraud!
Having said that, there are some interesting insights into belief and its
place in society in the New Scientist of 28 Jan 2006. Worth a read if you
can get hold of it.
Ærchie
.

User: "Douglas D. Anderson"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 11 Feb 2006 08:35:59 PM
yòwie wrote:

On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:04:36 +0800, Ærchie wrote:


Making the rash assumption for purposes of discussion that Islam is a
religion and not a car-burning cult, even a real religion can't go
bossing around other people like this.



There are no 'real' religions.


Catholics aren't short on rules, but they couldn't care less if
non-Catholics use birth control. Conservative Jews have no interest in
forbidding other people from mixing meat and dairy. Protestants don't
make a peep about other people eating food off one another's plates.
(Just stay away from our plates -- that's disgusting.)



The only reason xians don't seek to impose their beliefs on others by
force is that they are no longer in a position to do so.

Christians never did force their beliefs on anyone. Certain governments
forced some group thing they labeled "Christianity" on people for the sake
of political uniformity and conformity. Big difference. The instruction
of Christ to his followers is to witness the message, and "if you are not
welcome, shake the dust off your shoes and move on".


As for images, go look up "reformation" and "iconoclast".

.
User: "WhewNotSaved"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 12 Feb 2006 12:46:26 PM
"Douglas D. Anderson" <dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in message
news:jaxHf.3762$z%5.492@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

yòwie wrote:

On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:04:36 +0800, Ærchie wrote:


Making the rash assumption for purposes of discussion that Islam is a
religion and not a car-burning cult, even a real religion can't go
bossing around other people like this.



There are no 'real' religions.


Catholics aren't short on rules, but they couldn't care less if
non-Catholics use birth control. Conservative Jews have no interest in
forbidding other people from mixing meat and dairy. Protestants don't
make a peep about other people eating food off one another's plates.
(Just stay away from our plates -- that's disgusting.)



The only reason xians don't seek to impose their beliefs on others by
force is that they are no longer in a position to do so.


Christians never did force their beliefs on anyone. Certain governments
forced some group thing they labeled "Christianity" on people for the sake
of political uniformity and conformity. Big difference. The instruction
of Christ to his followers is to witness the message, and "if you are not
welcome, shake the dust off your shoes and move on".

I take it you've never been confronted in the mall by the little old lady
with purple hair, tight mean lips and beady eyes with her little booklets?
The one that doesn't take no for an answer and follows you around until you
just have to leave?





As for images, go look up "reformation" and "iconoclast".

.
User: "Douglas D. Anderson"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 12 Feb 2006 01:13:20 PM
WhewNotSaved wrote:

"Douglas D. Anderson" <dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in message
news:jaxHf.3762$z%5.492@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

yòwie wrote:

On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:04:36 +0800, Ærchie wrote:



Making the rash assumption for purposes of discussion that Islam is a
religion and not a car-burning cult, even a real religion can't go
bossing around other people like this.



There are no 'real' religions.



Catholics aren't short on rules, but they couldn't care less if
non-Catholics use birth control. Conservative Jews have no interest in
forbidding other people from mixing meat and dairy. Protestants don't
make a peep about other people eating food off one another's plates.
(Just stay away from our plates -- that's disgusting.)



The only reason xians don't seek to impose their beliefs on others by
force is that they are no longer in a position to do so.


Christians never did force their beliefs on anyone. Certain governments
forced some group thing they labeled "Christianity" on people for the sake
of political uniformity and conformity. Big difference. The instruction
of Christ to his followers is to witness the message, and "if you are not
welcome, shake the dust off your shoes and move on".



I take it you've never been confronted in the mall by the little old lady
with purple hair, tight mean lips and beady eyes with her little booklets?
The one that doesn't take no for an answer and follows you around until you
just have to leave?

If you feel /forced/ by that you must be the favorite sucker of every
salesman in your town. Next time you're in that mall go prepared...
with "666" painted on your hand in day-glow black paint. Make the
devil's cross at her while rolling your eyes.





As for images, go look up "reformation" and "iconoclast".




.
User: "WhewNotSaved"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 12 Feb 2006 01:16:31 PM
"Douglas D. Anderson" <dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in message
news:kNLHf.1037$Zl1.920@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

WhewNotSaved wrote:

"Douglas D. Anderson" <dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in message
news:jaxHf.3762$z%5.492@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

yòwie wrote:

On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:04:36 +0800, Ærchie wrote:



Making the rash assumption for purposes of discussion that Islam is a
religion and not a car-burning cult, even a real religion can't go
bossing around other people like this.



There are no 'real' religions.



Catholics aren't short on rules, but they couldn't care less if
non-Catholics use birth control. Conservative Jews have no interest in
forbidding other people from mixing meat and dairy. Protestants don't
make a peep about other people eating food off one another's plates.
(Just stay away from our plates -- that's disgusting.)



The only reason xians don't seek to impose their beliefs on others by
force is that they are no longer in a position to do so.


Christians never did force their beliefs on anyone. Certain governments
forced some group thing they labeled "Christianity" on people for the
sake
of political uniformity and conformity. Big difference. The instruction
of Christ to his followers is to witness the message, and "if you are not
welcome, shake the dust off your shoes and move on".



I take it you've never been confronted in the mall by the little old lady
with purple hair, tight mean lips and beady eyes with her little
booklets? The one that doesn't take no for an answer and follows you
around until you just have to leave?


If you feel /forced/ by that you must be the favorite sucker of every
salesman in your town. Next time you're in that mall go prepared...
with "666" painted on your hand in day-glow black paint. Make the
devil's cross at her while rolling your eyes.

lol
I always tell them that IF there was a god he wouldn't need marketing and
that IF there is a hell they will be going for sure as I'm crumpling the
little booklet without looking at it.










As for images, go look up "reformation" and "iconoclast".



.
User: "Pumba"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 15 Feb 2006 09:19:16 AM
WhewNotSaved wrote:

If you feel /forced/ by that you must be the favorite sucker of every
salesman in your town. Next time you're in that mall go prepared...
with "666" painted on your hand in day-glow black paint. Make the
devil's cross at her while rolling your eyes.

lol
I always tell them that IF there was a god he wouldn't need marketing and
that IF there is a hell they will be going for sure as I'm crumpling the
little booklet without looking at it.

Christians should know better than to try and save Jews.
what for?
Why try to prevent them from going to Hell?
i just can't figure them out.
--
Pumba, the warthog, from the Lion King
Yeah, I gotta cool blog too. Hey, Pumba has stuff to say!
http://www.capetownnews.co.za
Have a happy Pumbahed day!
.


User: "=?iso-8859-4?b?efJ3aWU=?="

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 13 Feb 2006 05:32:53 AM
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 19:13:20 +0000, Douglas D. Anderson wrote:

WhewNotSaved wrote:

"Douglas D. Anderson" <dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in message
I take it you've never been confronted in the mall by the little old lady
with purple hair, tight mean lips and beady eyes with her little booklets?
The one that doesn't take no for an answer and follows you around until you
just have to leave?


If you feel /forced/ by that you must be the favorite sucker of every
salesman in your town. Next time you're in that mall go prepared...
with "666" painted on your hand in day-glow black paint. Make the
devil's cross at her while rolling your eyes.

That works. So does a hearty '*****'.
You could make a formal complaint to the mall management but if Merika is
anything like here, that little old lady may be there with management
blessing, along with the sundry beggars whose host organisations have paid
for the privilege.
.



User: "Bill Colmers"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 13 Feb 2006 10:21:31 AM
"Douglas D. Anderson" <dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in message
news:jaxHf.3762$z%5.492@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

yòwie wrote:

a position to do so.


Christians never did force their beliefs on anyone. Certain governments
forced some group thing they labeled "Christianity" on people for the sake
of political uniformity and conformity. Big difference. The instruction
of Christ to his followers is to witness the message, and "if you are not
welcome, shake the dust off your shoes and move on".

Doug, you may wish to reconsider the statement, as the Catholic Church did
tag along with the French and Spanish into the New World, and did bludgeon
the natives into a version of Christianity. PRiests backed by soldiers is to
me, a means of forcing religion on people.
This was notably useful in conquered peoples, (including their own French or
Spanish serfs), in maintaining control of the population by shoving off the
reward to some putative "heaven".
Bill
.
User: "Douglas D. Anderson"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 13 Feb 2006 05:58:47 PM
Bill Colmers wrote:

"Douglas D. Anderson" <dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in message
news:jaxHf.3762$z%5.492@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

yòwie wrote:


a position to do so.

Christians never did force their beliefs on anyone. Certain governments
forced some group thing they labeled "Christianity" on people for the sake
of political uniformity and conformity. Big difference. The instruction
of Christ to his followers is to witness the message, and "if you are not
welcome, shake the dust off your shoes and move on".



Doug, you may wish to reconsider the statement, as the Catholic Church did
tag along with the French and Spanish into the New World, and did bludgeon
the natives into a version of Christianity. PRiests backed by soldiers is to
me, a means of forcing religion on people.

This was notably useful in conquered peoples, (including their own French or
Spanish serfs), in maintaining control of the population by shoving off the
reward to some putative "heaven".

Bill


You're possibly not grasping that the Catholic Church of that era is
among the /political organizations/ to which I am referring. Although
over the centuries the church has been moving closer to Christianity,
for many centuries it was fundamentally a political power plain and
simple, as was it's cousin the Byzantine church.
.


User: "Father Haskell"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 11 Feb 2006 10:55:22 PM
Douglas D. Anderson wrote:

Christians never did force their beliefs on anyone.

Sig, anyone?

Certain governments
forced some group thing they labeled "Christianity" on people for the sake
of political uniformity and conformity. Big difference. The instruction
of Christ to his followers is to witness the message, and "if you are not
welcome, shake the dust off your shoes and move on".

In the words of Syd Barret, "Take up thy crucifix and walk."
.
User: "Douglas D. Anderson"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 12 Feb 2006 09:12:24 AM
Father Haskell wrote:

Douglas D. Anderson wrote:


Christians never did force their beliefs on anyone.



Sig, anyone?

There you go again, taking things out of context. I'll bet when your
wife says "***** you!" you take it for a proposal. But then only those
stupid enough to take common gossip for fact without checking their
sources, like so many atheists and anarchists, would buy into that.
Again, Christians never did force their beliefs on anyone- rather, as
in the case of Communism and other mass indoctrinations, governments
have forced people to buy into conventionalized systems which they
don't really believe themselves. People will ask "how did Torquemada
do all that with a clear conscience?" when the obvious fact is that he
didn't. In the wake of the defeat of the Moors and their pet monkeys
the house-boy Jews, his mission was a political purge. He had no idea
what Christianity was all about, and neither did Rome which endorsed
him. Or someone might ask why those Baptist rescue missions require
the bums and winos to attend Baptist services in order to eat and get
out of the cold and rain. Well the question might also be asked of
why are there 100 Baptist missions to 1 Catholic mission to 0 atheist
missions? I can say without a doubt that if atheists want to set up
a network of rescue missions I have no problem whatsoever with them
requiring the winos to listen to a half hour lecture on why there is
no god. Nothing forced those bums onto the street but their own stupid
rebellion against the world. And the liberal sociologists who theorize
that they are unable to adapt due to sundry mental and emotional issues,
are being paid for ***** and should be terminated and encouraged to get
real jobs. If sociologists and economists were outsourced to India no
one would remember to use their services, and the money wasted on them
could be used toward legitimate urban renewal programs.



Certain governments
forced some group thing they labeled "Christianity" on people for the sake
of political uniformity and conformity. Big difference. The instruction
of Christ to his followers is to witness the message, and "if you are not
welcome, shake the dust off your shoes and move on".



In the words of Syd Barret, "Take up thy crucifix and walk."

.
User: "Father Haskell"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 13 Feb 2006 03:37:41 PM
Douglas D. Anderson wrote:

Again, Christians never did force their beliefs on anyone- rather, as
in the case of Communism and other mass indoctrinations, governments
have forced people to buy into conventionalized systems which they
don't really believe themselves.

For most of history, religion WAS the government.
.
User: "Bill Colmers"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 13 Feb 2006 05:12:22 PM
"Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1139866661.132865.255780@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...


Douglas D. Anderson wrote:

Again, Christians never did force their beliefs on anyone- rather, as
in the case of Communism and other mass indoctrinations, governments
have forced people to buy into conventionalized systems which they
don't really believe themselves.


For most of history, religion WAS the government.

Nope, they was jest in cahoots with the gummint
.
User: "Father Haskell"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 13 Feb 2006 05:24:06 PM
Bill Colmers wrote:

"Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1139866661.132865.255780@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...


Douglas D. Anderson wrote:

Again, Christians never did force their beliefs on anyone- rather, as
in the case of Communism and other mass indoctrinations, governments
have forced people to buy into conventionalized systems which they
don't really believe themselves.


For most of history, religion WAS the government.

Nope, they was jest in cahoots with the gummint

Where do you buy beer on Sunday?
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 14 Feb 2006 09:15:39 AM
"Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1139873046.014803.110650@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...


Bill Colmers wrote:

"Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1139866661.132865.255780@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...


Douglas D. Anderson wrote:

Again, Christians never did force their beliefs on anyone- rather, as
in the case of Communism and other mass indoctrinations, governments
have forced people to buy into conventionalized systems which they
don't really believe themselves.


For most of history, religion WAS the government.

Nope, they was jest in cahoots with the gummint


Where do you buy beer on Sunday?

Anywhere I want, usually at the A&P. However, if I need a pair of pantyhose
for work the next day, I'm screwed. Can buy booze, but not clothing on
Sundays in my neck of the woods. Go figure :P
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
.
User: "Mos Not@YourHouse"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 14 Feb 2006 09:21:20 AM
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:45eadfF6a1oaU1@individual.net

"Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in

Where do you buy beer on Sunday?


Anywhere I want, usually at the A&P. However, if I need
a pair of pantyhose for work the next day, I'm screwed.

If you're being screwed, you don't need to wear the pantyhose.
.

User: "Father Haskell"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 14 Feb 2006 06:43:58 PM
Robibnikoff wrote:

"Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1139873046.014803.110650@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...


Where do you buy beer on Sunday?


Anywhere I want, usually at the A&P. However, if I need a pair of pantyhose
for work the next day, I'm screwed. Can buy booze, but not clothing on
Sundays in my neck of the woods. Go figure :P

Odd, I live in a jewish neighborhood, but can't buy a
six-pack of cold, refreshing, hops and barley-based
refreshment on Sunday. Saturday, I can buy as
much as I like anywhere.
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 15 Feb 2006 10:02:24 AM
"Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1139964238.640701.95840@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


Robibnikoff wrote:

"Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1139873046.014803.110650@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...


Where do you buy beer on Sunday?


Anywhere I want, usually at the A&P. However, if I need a pair of
pantyhose
for work the next day, I'm screwed. Can buy booze, but not clothing on
Sundays in my neck of the woods. Go figure :P


Odd, I live in a jewish neighborhood, but can't buy a
six-pack of cold, refreshing, hops and barley-based
refreshment on Sunday. Saturday, I can buy as
much as I like anywhere.

Yeah, my county has the big "blue laws" thing going. I don't mind it that
much as it keeps the traffic down on the major highways on Sunday. I can
always run over to the next county if I absolutely have to buy clothing on a
Sunday.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
.

User: "Douglas D. Anderson"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 14 Feb 2006 06:53:13 PM
Father Haskell wrote:

Robibnikoff wrote:

"Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1139873046.014803.110650@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

Where do you buy beer on Sunday?


Anywhere I want, usually at the A&P. However, if I need a pair of pantyhose
for work the next day, I'm screwed. Can buy booze, but not clothing on
Sundays in my neck of the woods. Go figure :P



Odd, I live in a jewish neighborhood, but can't buy a
six-pack of cold, refreshing, hops and barley-based
refreshment on Sunday. Saturday, I can buy as
much as I like anywhere.

I know it's hard for you to think of everything, but if you buy
a refrigerator, then buy some beer on /Saturday/ & you can drink
it on /Sunday/. The stuff does stay fresh for a few weeks. HTH.
.
User: "Father Haskell"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 14 Feb 2006 07:06:42 PM
Douglas D. Anderson wrote:

Father Haskell wrote:

Robibnikoff wrote:

"Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1139873046.014803.110650@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

Odd, I live in a jewish neighborhood, but can't buy a
six-pack of cold, refreshing, hops and barley-based
refreshment on Sunday. Saturday, I can buy as
much as I like anywhere.

I know it's hard for you to think of everything, but if you buy
a refrigerator, then buy some beer on /Saturday/ & you can drink
it on /Sunday/. The stuff does stay fresh for a few weeks. HTH.

By the same reasoning, don't fret that your kids can't take part
in organized prayer in school during the week, since they can
do so in church on Sunday.
.
User: "Douglas D. Anderson"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 15 Feb 2006 04:46:06 AM
Father Haskell wrote:

Douglas D. Anderson wrote:

Father Haskell wrote:

Robibnikoff wrote:


"Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1139873046.014803.110650@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...


Odd, I live in a jewish neighborhood, but can't buy a
six-pack of cold, refreshing, hops and barley-based
refreshment on Sunday. Saturday, I can buy as
much as I like anywhere.


I know it's hard for you to think of everything, but if you buy
a refrigerator, then buy some beer on /Saturday/ & you can drink
it on /Sunday/. The stuff does stay fresh for a few weeks. HTH.



By the same reasoning, don't fret that your kids can't take part
in organized prayer in school during the week, since they can
do so in church on Sunday.

Because the intention of the first amendment is not to /abolish/
religion, but to prohibit a government established /form/ of religion
at taxpayers' expense, most schools allow students to participate
in voluntary prayer/ bible study groups during free time. I have
no problem with that. And I also have no problem with the so called
blue laws banning sale of beer on Sundays. In fact I would like to
see things the way they were forty years ago, when the only stores
open on Sunday were druggists and most places closed early Saturday.
Not necessarily because of any religious superstition, but because
I believe having a day off every week is good for everyone, and the
majority of people forced to work on Sundays and holidays in our
"modern" world are a bunch of kids being ruthlessly exploited by
Jewish and atheist business owners who are out playing golf while
threatening to fire any kid who doesn't want to work on Sunday.
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 15 Feb 2006 10:03:56 AM
"Douglas D. Anderson" <dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in message
news:ODDIf.7365$j53.2853@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

Father Haskell wrote:

Douglas D. Anderson wrote:

Father Haskell wrote:

Robibnikoff wrote:


"Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1139873046.014803.110650@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...


Odd, I live in a jewish neighborhood, but can't buy a
six-pack of cold, refreshing, hops and barley-based
refreshment on Sunday. Saturday, I can buy as
much as I like anywhere.


I know it's hard for you to think of everything, but if you buy
a refrigerator, then buy some beer on /Saturday/ & you can drink
it on /Sunday/. The stuff does stay fresh for a few weeks. HTH.



By the same reasoning, don't fret that your kids can't take part
in organized prayer in school during the week, since they can
do so in church on Sunday.

Because the intention of the first amendment is not to /abolish/
religion, but to prohibit a government established /form/ of religion
at taxpayers' expense, most schools allow students to participate
in voluntary prayer/ bible study groups during free time. I have
no problem with that. And I also have no problem with the so called
blue laws banning sale of beer on Sundays. In fact I would like to
see things the way they were forty years ago, when the only stores
open on Sunday were druggists and most places closed early Saturday.
Not necessarily because of any religious superstition, but because
I believe having a day off every week is good for everyone, and the
majority of people forced to work on Sundays and holidays in our
"modern" world are a bunch of kids being ruthlessly exploited by
Jewish and atheist business owners who are out playing golf while
threatening to fire any kid who doesn't want to work on Sunday.

Really? And you can prove this, right?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
.
User: "Douglas D. Anderson"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 15 Feb 2006 05:45:05 PM
Robibnikoff wrote:

"Douglas D. Anderson" <dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in message
news:ODDIf.7365$j53.2853@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

Father Haskell wrote:

Douglas D. Anderson wrote:


Father Haskell wrote:


Robibnikoff wrote:



"Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1139873046.014803.110650@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...


Odd, I live in a jewish neighborhood, but can't buy a
six-pack of cold, refreshing, hops and barley-based
refreshment on Sunday. Saturday, I can buy as
much as I like anywhere.


I know it's hard for you to think of everything, but if you buy
a refrigerator, then buy some beer on /Saturday/ & you can drink
it on /Sunday/. The stuff does stay fresh for a few weeks. HTH.



By the same reasoning, don't fret that your kids can't take part
in organized prayer in school during the week, since they can
do so in church on Sunday.


Because the intention of the first amendment is not to /abolish/
religion, but to prohibit a government established /form/ of religion
at taxpayers' expense, most schools allow students to participate
in voluntary prayer/ bible study groups during free time. I have
no problem with that. And I also have no problem with the so called
blue laws banning sale of beer on Sundays. In fact I would like to
see things the way they were forty years ago, when the only stores
open on Sunday were druggists and most places closed early Saturday.
Not necessarily because of any religious superstition, but because
I believe having a day off every week is good for everyone, and the
majority of people forced to work on Sundays and holidays in our
"modern" world are a bunch of kids being ruthlessly exploited by
Jewish and atheist business owners who are out playing golf while
threatening to fire any kid who doesn't want to work on Sunday.



Really? And you can prove this, right?

Tangible facts speak for themselves and don't require proof.
Fact 1, the intention of the first amendment is common knowledge,
to all but the uneducated.
Fact 2, the tolerance of prayer groups during free time in public
schools is common knowledge, to all but those who have no familiarity
with current events.
Fact 3, countless studies demonstrate the value of taking breaks and
time off from work.
Fact 4, any fool can drive around on a Sunday and see that 99% of
those working are in supermarkets, convenience stores, fast food
restaurants and department stores, earning minimum wage or less
and most of those in the twenty and under bracket, living in
relative poverty. In addition to those are the invisible army of
janitors and service people cleaning the offices and factories
closed down for the weekend, also in the minimum wage/poverty
wage range. If you need "proof" of this you are such a dope it's
not worth the effort.
.
User: "Jim07D6"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 15 Feb 2006 06:16:51 PM
<...>

"Douglas D. Anderson" <dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in message
news:ODDIf.7365$j53.2853@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

... I also have no problem with the so called
blue laws banning sale of beer on Sundays. In fact I would like to
see things the way they were forty years ago, when the only stores
open on Sunday were druggists and most places closed early Saturday.
Not necessarily because of any religious superstition, but because
I believe having a day off every week is good for everyone, and the
majority of people forced to work on Sundays and holidays in our
"modern" world are a bunch of kids being ruthlessly exploited by
Jewish and atheist business owners who are out playing golf while
threatening to fire any kid who doesn't want to work on Sunday.

Even nostalgia isn't what it used to be. That fantasy of 1965 keeps
getting spoiled in my mind by "whites only" and "colored entrance"
signs, lack of access by women to the means of independence, and
country clubs closed to Jews who only wanted to play some golf.
--- Jim07D6
.
User: "Douglas D. Anderson"

Title: Re: Islam, religion of peace article in Yahoo news 15 Feb 2006 08:02:39 PM
Jim07D6 wrote:

<...>

"Douglas D. Anderson" <dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in message
news:ODDIf.7365$j53.2853@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

... I also have no problem with the so called
blue laws banning sale of beer on Sundays. In fact I would like to
see things the way they were forty years ago, when the only stores
open on Sunday were druggists and most places closed early Saturday.
Not necessarily because of any religious superstition, but because
I believe having a day off every week is good for everyone, and the
majority of people forced to work on Sundays and holidays in our
"modern" world are a bunch of kids being ruthlessly exploited by
Jewish and atheist business owners who are out playing golf while
threatening to fire any kid who doesn't want to work on Sunday.



Even nostalgia isn't what it used to be. That fantasy of 1965 keeps
getting spoiled in my mind by "whites only" and "colored entrance"
signs, lack of access by women to the means of independence, and
country clubs closed to Jews who only wanted to play some golf.
--- Jim07D6

Now /that's/ a fantasy. Women still lack and will always lack the means
to independence, unless they somehow became men and grew a John Thomas,
of course men also have trouble reproducing by masturbation, so that's a
definite "minus". And nobody joins a country club to play golf- you play
golf at golf courses, you join country clubs to establish social standing.
And then there's the issue of having to hear the walls and windows rattle
to some obscene hip-hop tune brought to you by 2000 watt sub-woofer in a
jonesing crack head's car stopped at the crack house down the street at
3 AM, and if you try call the cops when a fight is going on in the street
between someone armed with a shovel and someone armed with a 10 inch knife
it takes a dozen calls from several people for the cops to show up twenty
minutes later. Things are so much lovelier these days... by the way, with
the current fashion of walking down the middle of the street, do you
suppose we should start driving on the sidewalks? Some young dummies bought
a run down colonial house across the street and put about fifty thousand
dollars into renovations, including new appliances, and rented it out.
Six month later the young idealistic fools, now wiser, had to evict their
tenants and clean the place up, which they had managed to trash in that time,
including breaking all the appliances. As one wise old neighbor said, "You
don't give a new dishwasher to monkeys!" Amen on that.
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