-- Why should she be forced to suffer for 9 months an bear the expense
and
danger to her life by having it?

Because she chose the actions that gave her those well known
consequences.

She CHOSE to be raped? Since when is rape a choice?

Choice For Women, *without* equal Choice For Men ( And, don't give me
the old ***** of " men cannot have abortions ". Choice For Women
INCLUDES non biological and non medical means to choose: Legal
Abandon Laws and Legal Adopting Out Laws. ) is SEXISM.

Since the father was mentally ill he could
very well pass his genes to his children. In just about every society
she
can get a legal abortion for her health and her sanity. Do you care at
all about how the woman feels?

No more and no less than I care about how the man feels.

Why would you care how a mentally ill sociopathic rapist feels about
anything?

A pity that your misandrous sexism makes it impossible for you to show
*equal concern* to men...

Why should anyone care how a mentally ill sociopathic rapist feels about
anything?

That's not what we were talking about. The issue was forcing a rape victim
to bear the child of a rapist at her own endangerment and expense.

-- The health of the mother is ALWAYS threatened during childbirth.
Women

still die and suffer permanent physical damages from childbirth.

If they view this as so abhorrant, then they can keep their legs
closed.

From a deranged rapist with a knife at their throat? What do you have
against the victims of rape?

" When you choose the behavior, you choose the *consequences*. "

Dr. Phil.

So you believe the women seek out these dangerous psychos to brutally rape
and beat them?

First of all, do learn to properly format a basic Usenet post; It will
help
you look less the fool... I fixed some of your more basic fuckups, but
that
your job.

On Aug 6, 9:54 pm, DärFläken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

"Andre Lieven" <andrelie...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message

news:1186443906.505232.233860@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... On Aug 6,
3:58 pm, DärFläken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

<patrick.bar...@standardregister.com> wrote in message

news:1186405975.313961.196020@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 5, 8:12 pm, "Ips-Switch" <Ips...@spamnot.com> wrote:>
"DärFläken" impersonated by JABRIOL <nob...@pseudo.borked.net> jabriol

wrote
in messagenews:e55314cd59ca5c96e54ad3a5224fee7b@pseudo.borked.net...

Hey Jabbers. Are you going to use legitimate poster's names again
to trick
people into reading your plagiarized Watchtower propaganda
nonsense?

We know you believe there is nothing wrong with rape so raped woman
should be forced to bear the rapist's child.

(Google jabriol+rape)

-----------------------------
I don't see a problem with that. I mean, I don't know about the
believing there's nothing wrong with rape thing. But "forcing" a
raped woman to bear the child seems fine with me. She can give it up
for adoption if she wants.

-- Why should she be forced to suffer for 9 months an bear the expense
and danger to her life by having it?

Because she chose the actions that gave her those well known
consequences.

She CHOSE to be raped? Since when is rape a choice?

Every single time that a man is forced into the legal status of
parenthood.
By a woman's SOLE choice.

If you are fine with one form of coercion for men, then you *cannot*
object
to another form for women...

Choice For Women, *without* equal Choice For Men ( And, don't give me
the old ***** of " men cannot have abortions ". Choice For Women
INCLUDES non biological and non medical means to choose: Legal
Abandon Laws and Legal Adopting Out Laws. ) is SEXISM.

No answer to this ? Your concession is noted...

Since the father was mentally ill he could very well pass his genes to
his children. In just about every society she can get a legal
abortion for her health and her sanity. Do you care at all about how
the woman feels?

No more and no less than I care about how the man feels.

Why would you care how a mentally ill sociopathic rapist feels about
anything?

Well, then I also should not care how control freak sociopathic women who
demand that ONLY they will CHOOSE for BOTH the man and for themselves
feel, either AND that their SOLE choice MUST obligate the man, too.

A pity that your misandrous sexism makes it impossible for you to
show
*equal concern* to men...

Why should anyone care how a mentally ill sociopathic rapist feels about
anything?

Ibid.

I don't see any sense in these "except in case of rape or incest"
things. Either abortion is okay or it isn't okay.

-- Hugh? It is OK. It's legal here in the USA. No woman is forced
against her will to bear an unwanted child in any case.

Ergo, no woman has any claim on a man's money for a baby that SHE
ALONE chooses to give birth to. Thank you for that.

That's not what we were talking about. The issue was forcing a rape
victim to bear the child of a rapist at her own endangerment and
expense.

So ? I'm not very concerned with issues that touch so FEW women as I am
over issues that touch SO MANY MORE men...

That you cannot show one whit of compassion for ANY men shows YOU to be
the sexist *bigot*...

-- The health of the mother is ALWAYS threatened during childbirth.
Women

still die and suffer permanent physical damages from childbirth.

If they view this as so abhorrant, then they can keep their legs
closed.

From a deranged rapist with a knife at their throat? What do you have
against the victims of rape?

Nothing. What have you against men who have had consensual sex ?

" When you choose the behavior, you choose the *consequences*. "

Dr. Phil.

So you believe the women seek out these dangerous psychos to brutally
rape and beat them?

Considering how popular the meme of young women being overwhelmingly
attracted to " bad boys " is, yes, thats an issue that is wholly at the
hands
of women to affect.

If women *stopped having sex* with " bad boys ", then such aberrant
behavior would be diminished, rather than encouraged and increased.

Andre

"She agreed to be raped when she wore a short skirt."

On Aug 6, 11:12 pm,

Andre Lieven <andrelie...@yahoo.ca> wrote:

On Aug 6, 3:58 pm, DärFläken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

<patrick.bar...@standardregister.com> wrote in message
I don't see a problem with that. I mean, I don't know about the
believing there's nothing wrong with rape thing. But "forcing" a
raped woman to bear the child seems fine with me. She can give it up
for adoption if she wants.

-- Why should she be forced to suffer for 9 months an bear the expense and
danger to her life by having it?

Because she chose the actions that gave her those well known
consequences.

"She agreed to be raped when she wore a short skirt."

<Laughs> When a man gets attacked by a woman, it is common to say to
him: " What did you do to deserve that attack ? "

I'm just giving women what they claim to want... equality.

By the way, because you chose to post that article you now owe me $10,000.

Once you get out of your rubber room, you are free to TRY...

On Aug 6, 11:12 pm,

Andre Lieven <andrelie...@yahoo.ca> wrote:

On Aug 6, 3:58 pm, DärFläken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

<patrick.bar...@standardregister.com> wrote in message I don't see a
problem with that. I mean, I don't know about the believing there's
nothing wrong with rape thing. But "forcing" a raped woman to bear
the child seems fine with me. She can give it up for adoption if she
wants.

-- Why should she be forced to suffer for 9 months an bear the
expense and danger to her life by having it?

Because she chose the actions that gave her those well known
consequences.

"She agreed to be raped when she wore a short skirt."

<Laughs> When a man gets attacked by a woman, it is common to say to him:
" What did you do to deserve that attack ? "

I'm just giving women what they claim to want... equality.

By the way, because you chose to post that article you now owe me
$10,000.

Once you get out of your rubber room, you are free to TRY...

Andre

On Aug 6, 9:45 pm, Monte <montag...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Andre Lieven wrote:

On Aug 6, 3:58 pm, D=E4rFl=E4ken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

<

news:1186405975.313961.196020@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 5, 8:12 pm, "Ips-Switch" <Ips...@spamnot.com> wrote:> "D=E4r=

wrote
in messagenews:e55314cd59ca5c96e54ad3a5224fee7b@pseudo.borked.net=

Hey Jabbers. Are you going to use legitimate poster's names agai=

trick
people into reading your plagiarized Watchtower propaganda nonse=

We know you believe there is nothing wrong with rape so raped wom=

be forced to bear the rapist's child.

(Google jabriol+rape)

-----------------------------
I don't see a problem with that. I mean, I don't know about the
believing there's nothing wrong with rape thing. But "forcing" a
raped woman to bear the child seems fine with me. She can give it =

for adoption if she wants.

-- Why should she be forced to suffer for 9 months an bear the expe=

danger to her life by having it?

Because she chose the actions that gave her those well known
consequences.

This hypothetical woman chose to get raped? Really?

You're good with forcing a raped woman to have the child of her
rapist?

I'm good with that.

Why?

Why not? It's not the fetus' fault that the woman was raped.

Choice For Women, *without* equal Choice For Men ( And, don't give me
the old ***** of " men cannot have abortions ". Choice For Women
INCLUDES
non biological and non medical means to choose: Legal Abandon Laws and
Legal Adopting Out Laws. ) is SEXISM.

Since the father was mentally ill he could
very well pass his genes to his children. In just about every soci=

can get a legal abortion for her health and her sanity. Do you car=

about how the woman feels?

No more and no less than I care about how the man feels.

You care how a rapist feels? Interesting. Why?

Of course, from this point on it is obvious from the context of his
writing that Andre was talking about men and women in general and not
about rape.

But, for the sake of argument, why shouldn't he?

A pity that your misandrous sexism makes it impossible for you to show
*equal concern* to men...

Equal concern for a rapist as for a victim. Interesting concept. How
did you come by it?

Concern for a rapist? What a foreign concept.

After decades of rhetoric, slogans, awareness raising, media
campaigns, etc it is popular in society today to regard sex offenders
as subhuman. You're either required to support all manner of
unconstitutional and inhumane things in regards to rape or else you
will be accused of actually supporting rape itself.

I don't see any sense in these "except in case of rape or incest"
things. Either abortion is okay or it isn't okay.

-- Hugh? It is OK. It's legal here in the USA. No woman is forced a=

her will to bear an unwanted child in any case.

Ergo, no woman has any claim on a man's money for a baby that SHE
ALONE chooses to give birth to. Thank you for that.

Where did money come into it? If this hypothetical rape victim
aborts, will she be billing the rapist for the charges?

If it is okay then
you should be able to get an abortion regardless of how you got
pregnant. And, likewise, if it isn't okay, then the method by which
you got pregnant is equally as irrelevant. After all, it isn't the
fetus's fault you were raped.

-- See above.

The only valid exception I can see is when the health of the mother=

threatened.

-- The health of the mother is ALWAYS threatened during childbirth.=

still die and suffer permanent physical damages from childbirth.

If they view this as so abhorrant, then they can keep their legs
closed.

Er, doesn't rape, by definition, negatge that choice?

" When you choose the behavior, you choose the *consequences*. "
Dr. Phil.

Again, do women *choose* to be raped?