Miller wrote:

"Paul Holbach" <paulholbachSPAMBAN@freenet.de> wrote in message
news:881c8779.0402251806.62654c1d@posting.google.com...

The latest Christian argument for the existence of God:

Mel Gibson has made a gory film about the suffering and death of
Jesus.
Therefore, God exists.

"They made signs in blood along the way that they went, and their
folly taught them that the truth is proved by blood.
But blood is the worst of all testimonies to the truth; blood
poisoneth even the purest teaching and turneth it into madness and
hatred in the heart.
And when one goeth through fire for his teaching--what doth that
prove? Verily, it is more when one's teaching cometh out of one's own
burning!"

[Nietzsche: "The Antichrist" (53)]

PH

There are apparently some groups of Christians, who immerse themselves

this sort of stuff. I find it particularly disgusting, and cannot

that Jesus, were he alive today, would approve of this sort of
entertainment.

Scott

Another thing I find interesting is that you can have what so many
describe as a highly accurate portrayal of the most popular religion in
the West, on the one hand, and a movie totally unsuitable for "family"
(children, and those who don't care for violence) on the other.

You can blame Gibson for it, but I think it's becoming obvious that
there's a fair degree of masochism under-the-hood in Christianity, and
this essential contradiction requires a tremendous amount of denial to
maintain.

This is why we, here in Minnesota, have a sell-professed Christian
governor (Tim Pawlenty) who's signed a law legalizing the carrying of
concealed handguns, made a public statement that he wishes to bring back
the death penalty after nearly a century of being stricken off the books
in Minnesota, and all sorts of other nastiness. This brand of
Christianity is little more than psychotic group schizophrenia. It's a
group of people with a misfiring piston in their mental machinery -- and
they've found common ground in a religion based on paradox, a brutal
act, and mixed messages.

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 06:02:24 -0500, "Miller"

wrote:

"Paul Holbach" <paulholbachSPAMBAN@freenet.de> wrote in message
news:881c8779.0402251806.62654c1d@posting.google.com...

The latest Christian argument for the existence of God:

Mel Gibson has made a gory film about the suffering and death of
Jesus.
Therefore, God exists.

"They made signs in blood along the way that they went, and their
folly taught them that the truth is proved by blood.
But blood is the worst of all testimonies to the truth; blood
poisoneth even the purest teaching and turneth it into madness and
hatred in the heart.
And when one goeth through fire for his teaching--what doth that
prove? Verily, it is more when one's teaching cometh out of one's own
burning!"

[Nietzsche: "The Antichrist" (53)]

PH

There are apparently some groups of Christians, who immerse themselves in
this sort of stuff. I find it particularly disgusting, and cannot

that Jesus, were he alive today, would approve of this sort of
entertainment.

Scott

I Second that.

The Passion is a cheap trick. There's a 45 minute bloody beating in it.
What human could not feel pity for Jesus then? In fact, this is the main
feature of all melodramas -- start with the cruelty of the villain and in

end, deal with him in a righteously cruel manner. Many modern christians
can tell you all about Jesus' and their own suffering, and probably quote
Revelations, but be totally ignorant of the sermon on the mount.

What do they know or care about "turning the other cheek"?
All they know is that they are the 'good' and the 'saved' and everyone
else is satanic and undeserving of any mercy at all.

Gibson has made christianity ridiculous. They are selling all sorts of
"Jesus" trash to go with the movie, including $14.95 spikes in simulation

those used on Jesus. This ain't about religion, folks, it's about cashing

Meanwhile there are genocides, tortures and murders in Africa and

and christians are not all bothered about that Real suffering today.

just people and not the Son of God who are being blown up, orphaned and
hacked to death.

"W.Syme" <w.syme.killspam@hotpop.com> skrev i melding > >[Nietzsche: "The
Antichrist" (53)]

Yay, new fallacy!

"Argumentum ad gibsonium"

Reductio ad gibsurdum?

T