In article <sN_zg.13065$4c7.9408@tornado.southeast.rr.com>,
Fester <not@home.com> wrote:

<snip>

So I presume that the fish, crustaceans, and crabs will be
written off as more collateral damage. One more reason why this
war sucks.

All war sucks. The question is whether one values the crustaceans
more than one values the children being slaughtered by Katushas. I
value the children more than the lobsters, how about you?

I care about both as well as the Lebanese children being killed.

Very good, now let's build on that. Would the Israelis be fighting
if their citizens and soldiers weren't being attacked and murdered?
Would Lebanese children be killed if the Hezzies wore uniforms and
waged war from outside of areas where they live? The answers to the
above of course is *no* they would not. So give your to support to
Israel, in their efforts to wipe this scourge from the planet, so
that children (and lobsters) won't have to suffer again.

You neocons just don't get it. You can't defeat groups like Hezbullah
by military force alone. As in Iraq, any settlement must be political
as well. The Israelis have been pounding their neighbors for over
fifty years and where has it got them? They are still fighting the
same wars. The US hasn't learned

You neocons just don't get it. You can't defeat groups like Hezbullah
by military force alone. As in Iraq, any settlement must be political as
well. The Israelis have been pounding their neighbors for over fifty
years and where has it got them? They are still fighting the same wars.

johac wrote:

In article <8kgtc2d90qragdp49s9icgrdmdovm2spfb@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

http://www.tehrantimes.com/Description.asp?Da=7/30/2006&Cat=2&Num=4

July 30, 2006

Israel causes 'worst environmental disaster' in Mediterranean


BEIRUT (AFP) - The Mediterranean is threatened by its worst ever
environmental disaster after Israel's bombing of a power plant in
Lebanon sent thousands of tons of fuel gushing into the sea, the
environment minister charged on Saturday.

"Up until now 10,000-15,000 tons of heavy fuel oil have spilled out into
the sea," after Israel's bombing of the power station in Jiyeh two weeks
ago, Lebanese Environment Minister Yacub Sarraf told AFP. "It's without
doubt the biggest environmental catastrophe that the Mediterranean has
known and it risks having terrible consequences not only for our country
but for all the countries of the eastern Mediterranean."

Israeli forces bombed the tanks at the power station on July 14 and July
15, just days into their offensive on Lebanon which has seen blistering
air strikes across the country and a bloody ground incursion in the
south.

The leak from one of the tanks, which are located just 25 metres (80
feet) from the sea, has now stopped but another containing 25,000 tons
of fuel oil is still on fire and is in danger of exploding. Between
8,000-10,000 tons of fuel are on the shore and 5,000 on the open water.
"Until now, the worst ecological disasters have taken place in the
oceans and it's the first time that an oil spill has happened outside
the open sea," said Sarraf. "We can have no illusions."

Sarraf said that the cost of cleaning up Lebanon's once golden beaches
-- which until the bombardment were major attractions for locals and
tourists -- will cost between 45-50 million dollars and would not be
finished until next summer.

The spill is now affecting 70 kilometres (40 miles) of Lebanon's
220-kilometre-long (140 miles) coast, a third of its coastline. Beaches
and rocks are covered in a black sludge which has reached the famous
tourist town of Byblos, north of Beirut.

"If nothing is done, not only will currents flowing towards the north
mean that one third of Lebanon's coastline be hit, but also Cyprus,
Syria, Turkey, Greece and even Israel," Sarraf said.

"The fauna and the Mediterranean ecosystem risk suffering badly and
certain species are threatened with extinction," he warned.

Sarraf said that owing to the Israeli blockade of Lebanon's waters, it
was impossible to send ships to clear up the pollution.

"I have appealed to Britain, Italy, Spain, the United States, all the
countries which have already suffered oil slicks to ask for technical
assistance as we cannot act on our own," he said.

Kuwait has sent 40 tons of material that would allow the petrol to
thicken and also special carpets which absorb petroleum products. A
resident of Byblos, known worldwide for its seafood restaurants and
historic harbour, said "for the last four days, fish, crustaceans and
crabs have been coming in black, and they are dying as victims of this
oil slick." Fuad Hamdan, director of Friends of the Earth, Europe, and
founder of Greenpeace Lebanon, agreed that "it is certainly the worst
environmental disaster ever on the eastern Mediterranean coast."

Hamdan said the eastern Mediterranean coast from the Israeli port of
Haifa until Syria's Lattakiya was already heavily polluted from Israeli
industry, Lebanese sewage and industry from east Beirut and from Syria.
He advised people against eating fish from coastal areas. "Anyway it
will smell bad and put people off."

Besides the oil slick, the fire from the oil tanks has caused
atmospheric pollution which has already reached Beirut. "Now the toxic
cloud is stretching over a 30 kilometre distance," said Sarraf.


/end

So I presume that the fish, crustaceans, and crabs will be written off
as more collateral damage. One more reason why this war sucks.

What should the Jews care? Most seafood and certainly crustaceans are
off their menu!

Voracious

johac wrote:

In article <8kgtc2d90qragdp49s9icgrdmdovm2spfb@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

http://www.tehrantimes.com/Description.asp?Da=7/30/2006&Cat=2&Num=4

July 30, 2006

Israel causes 'worst environmental disaster' in Mediterranean


BEIRUT (AFP) - The Mediterranean is threatened by its worst ever
environmental disaster after Israel's bombing of a power plant in
Lebanon sent thousands of tons of fuel gushing into the sea, the
environment minister charged on Saturday.

"Up until now 10,000-15,000 tons of heavy fuel oil have spilled out into
the sea," after Israel's bombing of the power station in Jiyeh two weeks
ago, Lebanese Environment Minister Yacub Sarraf told AFP. "It's without
doubt the biggest environmental catastrophe that the Mediterranean has
known and it risks having terrible consequences not only for our country
but for all the countries of the eastern Mediterranean."

Israeli forces bombed the tanks at the power station on July 14 and July
15, just days into their offensive on Lebanon which has seen blistering
air strikes across the country and a bloody ground incursion in the
south.

The leak from one of the tanks, which are located just 25 metres (80
feet) from the sea, has now stopped but another containing 25,000 tons
of fuel oil is still on fire and is in danger of exploding. Between
8,000-10,000 tons of fuel are on the shore and 5,000 on the open water.
"Until now, the worst ecological disasters have taken place in the
oceans and it's the first time that an oil spill has happened outside
the open sea," said Sarraf. "We can have no illusions."

Sarraf said that the cost of cleaning up Lebanon's once golden beaches
-- which until the bombardment were major attractions for locals and
tourists -- will cost between 45-50 million dollars and would not be
finished until next summer.

The spill is now affecting 70 kilometres (40 miles) of Lebanon's
220-kilometre-long (140 miles) coast, a third of its coastline. Beaches
and rocks are covered in a black sludge which has reached the famous
tourist town of Byblos, north of Beirut.

"If nothing is done, not only will currents flowing towards the north
mean that one third of Lebanon's coastline be hit, but also Cyprus,
Syria, Turkey, Greece and even Israel," Sarraf said.

"The fauna and the Mediterranean ecosystem risk suffering badly and
certain species are threatened with extinction," he warned.

Sarraf said that owing to the Israeli blockade of Lebanon's waters, it
was impossible to send ships to clear up the pollution.

"I have appealed to Britain, Italy, Spain, the United States, all the
countries which have already suffered oil slicks to ask for technical
assistance as we cannot act on our own," he said.

Kuwait has sent 40 tons of material that would allow the petrol to
thicken and also special carpets which absorb petroleum products. A
resident of Byblos, known worldwide for its seafood restaurants and
historic harbour, said "for the last four days, fish, crustaceans and
crabs have been coming in black, and they are dying as victims of this
oil slick." Fuad Hamdan, director of Friends of the Earth, Europe, and
founder of Greenpeace Lebanon, agreed that "it is certainly the worst
environmental disaster ever on the eastern Mediterranean coast."

Hamdan said the eastern Mediterranean coast from the Israeli port of
Haifa until Syria's Lattakiya was already heavily polluted from Israeli
industry, Lebanese sewage and industry from east Beirut and from Syria.
He advised people against eating fish from coastal areas. "Anyway it
will smell bad and put people off."

Besides the oil slick, the fire from the oil tanks has caused
atmospheric pollution which has already reached Beirut. "Now the toxic
cloud is stretching over a 30 kilometre distance," said Sarraf.


/end

So I presume that the fish, crustaceans, and crabs will be written off
as more collateral damage. One more reason why this war sucks.

What should the Jews care? Most seafood and certainly crustaceans are
off their menu!