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"Budikka666" |
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10 May 2007 05:20:51 PM |
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Issues The Anti-Choice Crowd Carefully Avoid #6 |
The so-called "pro-life" lobby aren't as pro-life as they like to lie,
as has been handsomely demonstrated in this series.
They toss out this figure of "40 million children murdered" (which is
a lie), but are too hypocritical to consider other millions whose
lives could be saved or if not at grave risk, definitely could use
some improvement.
For example, whenever people talk about healthcare in the USA, the
figure of 40 million is also used. Maybe 40 million is just a good
key figure to throw around. For example there are over "40 million"
with HIV:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2512771.stm
Those 40 million are alive and can be saved, but the pro-lifers (most
of them so-called Christians who are supposed to love their neighbor)
would rather deride them as sexually depraved and let them rot - even
the children.
Another "40 million" are the unvaccinated that the Pan-American Health
Organization targeted three years ago - mostly children who would have
died from disease created by this god of the pro-life lobby (if you
believe in fairy tales).
This god didn't apparently care about those 40 million, so why does
the so-called "pro-life" lobby think he cares about 40 million blobs
of Jello?
Another "40 million" are the victims of the Spanish flu epidemic of
1918:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4350050.stm
Flu epidemics are killers which preferentially afflict the old - and
the *youngest* - and could be defeated if the so-called pro-lifers
would spend as much attention on healthcare as they do on whining. If
they would get out of the way of teaching evolution, and get out of
the way of stem cell research - in fact, get out of the way of science
altogether.
The "40 million uninsured" in the USA is not a fixed number of people,
and it's not the same people. Depending on how you slice it, the
number can be as low as 20 million or as high as 70 million:
http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/38/12/1-a
But in there is definitely a core of people who do not have the same
access to low-cost healthcare that the rest of us enjoy even while we
complain about premiums and services. Yet in this nation of 90%
belief in a god, and 80% acceptance of a mythical Jesus, 40 million
cannot get health care.
That's why the pro-life lobby are hypocrites. They're not pro-life at
all. They're pro-whining busy-bodies who have all sorts of
opportunities to improve lives and even to save lives - opportunities
with which no one would quibble, yet instead of focusing their efforts
there, they evidently would rather whine.
Budikka
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| User: "Lisbeth Andersson" |
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| Title: Re: Issues The Anti-Choice Crowd Carefully Avoid #6 |
11 May 2007 03:53:23 AM |
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Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1178835650.916423.173750@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
<...>
For example, whenever people talk about healthcare in the USA, the
figure of 40 million is also used. Maybe 40 million is just a good
key figure to throw around. For example there are over "40 million"
with HIV:
<...>
Of course 40 is a traditional number. Check your Bible. :-) People are
walking in the desert for 40 years, fasting for 40 days, it's raining
for 40 days, no sex for 40 days after your son is born, and if you
rise from the dead there is a 40 day waiting period before you end up
at your final destination. There are probably more examples.
Lisbeth.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Issues The Anti-Choice Crowd Carefully Avoid #6 |
13 May 2007 08:25:16 AM |
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On 11 May 2007 08:53:23 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1178835650.916423.173750@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
<...>
For example, whenever people talk about healthcare in the USA, the
figure of 40 million is also used. Maybe 40 million is just a good
key figure to throw around. For example there are over "40 million"
with HIV:
<...>
Of course 40 is a traditional number. Check your Bible. :-) People are
walking in the desert for 40 years, fasting for 40 days, it's raining
for 40 days, no sex for 40 days after your son is born, and if you
rise from the dead there is a 40 day waiting period before you end up
at your final destination. There are probably more examples.
It's 48,000,000+ now.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Issues The Anti-Choice Crowd Carefully Avoid #6 |
14 May 2007 09:22:45 PM |
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in article 4d4e431aih35eltt0b8i0vuggtjedun40r@4ax.com, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote on 5/13/07 9:25 AM:
On 11 May 2007 08:53:23 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1178835650.916423.173750@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
<...>
For example, whenever people talk about healthcare in the USA, the
figure of 40 million is also used. Maybe 40 million is just a good
key figure to throw around. For example there are over "40 million"
with HIV:
<...>
Of course 40 is a traditional number. Check your Bible. :-) People are
walking in the desert for 40 years, fasting for 40 days, it's raining
for 40 days, no sex for 40 days after your son is born, and if you
rise from the dead there is a 40 day waiting period before you end up
at your final destination. There are probably more examples.
It's 48,000,000+ now.
And that's almost as many as Duke needs to flatter his ego for
eternity telling him how wonderful and marvelous he is...
Paul
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Issues The Anti-Choice Crowd Carefully Avoid #7 |
15 May 2007 06:31:28 PM |
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On May 14, 9:22 pm, Paul Duca <p.d...@comcast.net> wrote:
in article 4d4e431aih35eltt0b8i0vuggtjedun...@4ax.com, duke at
duckgumb...@cox.net wrote on 5/13/07 9:25 AM:
On 11 May 2007 08:53:23 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lis...@bredband.net> wrote:
Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1178835650.916423.173750@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
<...>
For example, whenever people talk about healthcare in the USA, the
figure of 40 million is also used. Maybe 40 million is just a good
key figure to throw around. For example there are over "40 million"
with HIV:
<...>
Of course 40 is a traditional number. Check your Bible. :-) People are
walking in the desert for 40 years, fasting for 40 days, it's raining
for 40 days, no sex for 40 days after your son is born, and if you
rise from the dead there is a 40 day waiting period before you end up
at your final destination. There are probably more examples.
It's 48,000,000+ now.
And that's almost as many as Duke needs to flatter his ego for
eternity telling him how wonderful and marvelous he is...
Paul
Don't you just love the way these dimwits pull these "facts" right out
of their ***** without even a pretence they can support them?
Even if it were true - even if it actually were 48 million - and even
if they actually were people rather than embryos/fetuses/etc., then
how is claiming there were 48 million more tragic than just one?
These hypocritical assholes are too clueless to realise that by
jacking up the so-called "death toll" into the rabid millions, they're
actually cheapening a life instead of valuing it.
One person is valuable, but the fact is these hypocrites don't care
about people. If they did, they wouldn't be whimpering about 48
million who were never born.
Instead, they'd be genuinely *shocked* by sixty million. which is how
many people have died of malaria since Roe v. Wade for want of $10 for
a mosquito net. Yet not one of these hypocritical scum has had the
common decency to come right out and say how tragic that is.
But let's tackle their fictional 48 million head on, shall we? Hell,
let's really jack it into the stratosphere. What about all those
countless ova a woman has, at least 8 out of every 9 of which get
flushed right out? What about those lives?
What about those countless ova which never even get a chance at life
because they're still stuck in the distal end of the Fallopian tubes
when each woman dies? What about those lives?
What about the literally millions of sperm wasted in the assinine
"design" of conception? That toll isn't 48 million, it's trillions!
Why aren't they up in arms against this god of theirs for slaughtering
trillions?
They never are. And that's why they're solidly rooted among the most
pathetic hypocrites on Earth.
Budikka
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| User: "Bill Dunkenfield" |
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| Title: Re: Issues The Anti-Choice Crowd Carefully Avoid #6 |
11 May 2007 03:21:27 PM |
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Budikka666 wrote:
The so-called "pro-life" lobby aren't as pro-life as they like to lie,
as has been handsomely demonstrated in this series.
They toss out this figure of "40 million children murdered" (which is
a lie), but are too hypocritical to consider other millions whose
lives could be saved or if not at grave risk, definitely could use
some improvement.
For example, whenever people talk about healthcare in the USA, the
figure of 40 million is also used. Maybe 40 million is just a good
key figure to throw around. For example there are over "40 million"
with HIV:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2512771.stm
Those 40 million are alive and can be saved, but the pro-lifers (most
of them so-called Christians who are supposed to love their neighbor)
would rather deride them as sexually depraved and let them rot - even
the children.
Another "40 million" are the unvaccinated that the Pan-American Health
Organization targeted three years ago - mostly children who would have
died from disease created by this god of the pro-life lobby (if you
believe in fairy tales).
This god didn't apparently care about those 40 million, so why does
the so-called "pro-life" lobby think he cares about 40 million blobs
of Jello?
Another "40 million" are the victims of the Spanish flu epidemic of
1918:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4350050.stm
Flu epidemics are killers which preferentially afflict the old - and
the *youngest* - and could be defeated if the so-called pro-lifers
would spend as much attention on healthcare as they do on whining. If
they would get out of the way of teaching evolution, and get out of
the way of stem cell research - in fact, get out of the way of science
altogether.
The "40 million uninsured" in the USA is not a fixed number of people,
and it's not the same people. Depending on how you slice it, the
number can be as low as 20 million or as high as 70 million:
http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/38/12/1-a
But in there is definitely a core of people who do not have the same
access to low-cost healthcare that the rest of us enjoy even while we
complain about premiums and services. Yet in this nation of 90%
belief in a god, and 80% acceptance of a mythical Jesus, 40 million
cannot get health care.
That's why the pro-life lobby are hypocrites. They're not pro-life at
all. They're pro-whining busy-bodies who have all sorts of
opportunities to improve lives and even to save lives - opportunities
with which no one would quibble, yet instead of focusing their efforts
there, they evidently would rather whine.
Budikka
What you describe above is know as the postpartum abortion.
Christians have no problem with that.
JAM
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: Issues The Anti-Choice Crowd Carefully Avoid #6 |
13 May 2007 06:56:29 AM |
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On May 11, 3:21 pm, Bill Dunkenfield <BillDunkenfi...@nospam.net>
wrote:
Budikka666 wrote:
The so-called "pro-life" lobby aren't as pro-life as they like to lie,
as has been handsomely demonstrated in this series.
They toss out this figure of "40 million children murdered" (which is
a lie), but are too hypocritical to consider other millions whose
lives could be saved or if not at grave risk, definitely could use
some improvement.
For example, whenever people talk about healthcare in the USA, the
figure of 40 million is also used. Maybe 40 million is just a good
key figure to throw around. For example there are over "40 million"
with HIV:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2512771.stm
Those 40 million are alive and can be saved, but the pro-lifers (most
of them so-called Christians who are supposed to love their neighbor)
would rather deride them as sexually depraved and let them rot - even
the children.
Another "40 million" are the unvaccinated that the Pan-American Health
Organization targeted three years ago - mostly children who would have
died from disease created by this god of the pro-life lobby (if you
believe in fairy tales).
This god didn't apparently care about those 40 million, so why does
the so-called "pro-life" lobby think he cares about 40 million blobs
of Jello?
Another "40 million" are the victims of the Spanish flu epidemic of
1918:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4350050.stm
Flu epidemics are killers which preferentially afflict the old - and
the *youngest* - and could be defeated if the so-called pro-lifers
would spend as much attention on healthcare as they do on whining. If
they would get out of the way of teaching evolution, and get out of
the way of stem cell research - in fact, get out of the way of science
altogether.
The "40 million uninsured" in the USA is not a fixed number of people,
and it's not the same people. Depending on how you slice it, the
number can be as low as 20 million or as high as 70 million:
http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/38/12/1-a
But in there is definitely a core of people who do not have the same
access to low-cost healthcare that the rest of us enjoy even while we
complain about premiums and services. Yet in this nation of 90%
belief in a god, and 80% acceptance of a mythical Jesus, 40 million
cannot get health care.
That's why the pro-life lobby are hypocrites. They're not pro-life at
all. They're pro-whining busy-bodies who have all sorts of
opportunities to improve lives and even to save lives - opportunities
with which no one would quibble, yet instead of focusing their efforts
there, they evidently would rather whine.
Budikka
What you describe above is know as the postpartum abortion.
Christians have no problem with that.
JAM
My phrase exactly!
Budikka
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Bud the dud - Issues The Anti-Choice Crowd Carefully Avoid #6 |
11 May 2007 07:19:36 AM |
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On 10 May 2007 15:20:51 -0700, Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
The so-called "pro-life" lobby aren't as pro-life as they like to lie,
as has been handsomely demonstrated in this series.
They toss out this figure of "40 million children murdered" (which is
a lie), but are too hypocritical to consider other millions whose
lives could be saved or if not at grave risk, definitely could use
some improvement.
It's inaccurate. The number is now ~48,000,000 since Roe v Wade. The primary
murder purpose is birth control. Very few were to save the life of the mother.
That's why the pro-life lobby are hypocrites. They're not pro-life at
all. They're pro-whining busy-bodies who have all sorts of
opportunities to improve lives and even to save lives - opportunities
with which no one would quibble, yet instead of focusing their efforts
there, they evidently would rather whine.
You just wish to pretend that it's a mother's life question, and in truth, it's
birth control.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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