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19 Jun 2005 06:57:07 AM |
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It is absolutely stunning............... |
...............in that the average atheist lacks minimal grasp of the beliefs of
others of the existence of Almighty God, and of his becoming man in the person
of Jesus Christ to die on the Cross for the redemption of man from his sins and
to **restore** salvation to the souls of mankind.
The average atheist is rock bottom is that very basic understanding and yet runs
around rejecting the existence of almighty God. On what basis?
Atheists lack even the basic rudiments of knowledge of God, yet carry on to
untold lengths with total lack of supportive evidence for his beliefs.
Stunning.
duke
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| User: "Steve O" |
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19 Jun 2005 11:53:36 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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..............in that the average atheist lacks minimal grasp of the
beliefs of
others of the existence of Almighty God, and of his becoming man in the
person
of Jesus Christ to die on the Cross for the redemption of man from his
sins and
to **restore** salvation to the souls of mankind.
Of course atheists understand why you believe in the existence of Almighty
God.
Some of us even used to believe it in ourselves.
And Santa too.
The average atheist is rock bottom is that very basic understanding and
yet runs
around rejecting the existence of almighty God. On what basis?
Your premise is false.
We are not at rock bottom when it comes to understanding why you believe in
a god or gods.
I also understand why my five year old believes in Santa and the Tooth
Fairy.
Two basic reasons
1. We told her that they exist and are real
2. She wants to believe they exist and are real
Your beliefs are no more or less valid than hers.
Atheists lack even the basic rudiments of knowledge of God, yet carry on
to
untold lengths with total lack of supportive evidence for his beliefs.
I've noticed that the atheists in this group tend to seem far more well
versed in the Bible and religious history than most of the believers who
post here, so once again you are wrong.
Stunning.
Yes, it is.
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| User: "duke" |
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19 Jun 2005 06:15:04 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:53:36 +0100, "Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com> wrote:
Of course atheists understand why you believe in the existence of Almighty
God.
Some of us even used to believe it in ourselves.
And Santa too.
Do you still believe in santa?
The average atheist is rock bottom is that very basic understanding and
yet runs
around rejecting the existence of almighty God. On what basis?
Your premise is false.
We are not at rock bottom when it comes to understanding why you believe in
a god or gods.
Oh, you're at rock bottom alright. You have no knowledge of my beliefs. Yet
you reject them anyway.
I've noticed that the atheists in this group tend to seem far more well
versed in the Bible and religious history than most of the believers who
post here, so once again you are wrong.
Gosh, that has NEVER been apparent. Of course, if you're an atheist, you
wouldn't know the difference anyway.
duke
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| User: "iceman" |
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19 Jun 2005 02:44:19 PM |
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.. . . that an elderly gentleman such as yourself would troll usenet
groups like a bored teenager.
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19 Jun 2005 06:16:33 PM |
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On 19 Jun 2005 12:44:19 -0700, "iceman" <AT_Tappman@hotmail.com> wrote:
. . . that an elderly gentleman such as yourself would troll usenet
groups like a bored teenager.
Not a troll. A troll has no interest in the subject matter.
duke
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| User: "Walking on Glass" |
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19 Jun 2005 07:28:23 AM |
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And lo, it came to pass that did attempt to escape
burning at the stake, by proclaiming in alt.atheism:
..............in that the average atheist lacks minimal grasp of the
beliefs of others of the existence of Almighty God
On the contrary, atheists are well aware of the beliefs of theists. To
the point of being burnt at the stake by them in fact.
, and of his
becoming man in the person of Jesus Christ to die on the Cross for the
redemption of man from his sins and to **restore** salvation to the
souls of mankind.
Ah, that subset of theists who call themselves Christians.
The average atheist is rock bottom is that very basic understanding
and yet runs around rejecting the existence of almighty God. On what
basis?
Lack of evidence. You're the one making the claim that a god exists, its
up to you to give evidence that we can study objectively. If you can't do
that, we have no reason to consider your claims further, in the same way
you probably reject the Greek pantheon of gods because no-one has ever
shown you evidence that they exist.
Atheists lack even the basic rudiments of knowledge of God, yet carry
on to untold lengths with total lack of supportive evidence for his
beliefs.
You'll notice that even among the theists, there is no agreement about
what 'god' is. There are 1000's of sects of Christians, who can't even
agree on fundamentals of the entity they believe in.
You'd think that if the existence of god was as clear as you like to
pretend it is, that there would be more agreement between these sects?
In fact, if gods existence was that obvious, you'd only expect one,
religion, and everyone to be a member. God would be as matter of fact as
the earth beneath your feet.
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| User: "duke" |
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19 Jun 2005 11:45:10 AM |
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On 19 Jun 2005 12:28:23 GMT, Walking on Glass
<walking_on_glass@hotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote:
..............in that the average atheist lacks minimal grasp of the
beliefs of others of the existence of Almighty God
On the contrary, atheists are well aware of the beliefs of theists. To
the point of being burnt at the stake by them in fact.
On the contrary, you demonstrate NO knowledge.
Ah, that subset of theists who call themselves Christians.
Yes, it is the very basis of Christianity, or didn't you know. Of course not.
The average atheist is rock bottom is that very basic understanding
and yet runs around rejecting the existence of almighty God. On what
basis?
Lack of evidence. You're the one making the claim that a god exists,
Lack of evidence. You're the one saying he doesn't.
Atheists lack even the basic rudiments of knowledge of God, yet carry
on to untold lengths with total lack of supportive evidence for his
beliefs.
You'll notice that even among the theists, there is no agreement about
what 'god' is. There are 1000's of sects of Christians, who can't even
agree on fundamentals of the entity they believe in.
All agree on the basic fundamental - Jesus is Lord.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Walking on Glass" |
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19 Jun 2005 01:01:06 PM |
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And lo, it came to pass that did attempt to esape
burning at the stake, by proclaiming in alt.atheism:
On 19 Jun 2005 12:28:23 GMT, Walking on Glass
<walking_on_glass@hotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote:
..............in that the average atheist lacks minimal grasp of the
beliefs of others of the existence of Almighty God
On the contrary, atheists are well aware of the beliefs of theists. To
the point of being burnt at the stake by them in fact.
On the contrary, you demonstrate NO knowledge.
Joining other people in their delusions isn't my bag, baby. You have no
objective evidence for your belief.
Ah, that subset of theists who call themselves Christians.
Yes, it is the very basis of Christianity, or didn't you know. Of
course not.
I'm well aware of its importance to Christians. I see it as being
irrelevent to the nature of reality in general.
The average atheist is rock bottom is that very basic understanding
and yet runs around rejecting the existence of almighty God. On
what basis?
Lack of evidence. You're the one making the claim that a god exists,
Lack of evidence. You're the one saying he doesn't.
No. As an atheist, I claim to lack belief in gods. That is a different
statement to "god does not exist", but I do not speak for all atheists,
some of who would say that.
Atheists lack even the basic rudiments of knowledge of God, yet
carry on to untold lengths with total lack of supportive evidence
for his beliefs.
You'll notice that even among the theists, there is no agreement about
what 'god' is. There are 1000's of sects of Christians, who can't even
agree on fundamentals of the entity they believe in.
All agree on the basic fundamental - Jesus is Lord.
And Greeks would all have have agreed that Zeus was father of the gods.
The Heaven's Gate crowd would all have agreed on reality of the spacehip
following the comet. Your point?
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AA #2053
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19 Jun 2005 05:56:37 PM |
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On 19 Jun 2005 18:01:06 GMT, Walking on Glass
<walking_on_glass@hotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote:
On the contrary, you demonstrate NO knowledge.
Joining other people in their delusions isn't my bag, baby. You have no
objective evidence for your belief.
You're the one with delusions. There is NO evidence that God doesn't exist.
Lack of evidence. You're the one making the claim that a god exists,
Lack of evidence. You're the one saying he doesn't.
No. As an atheist, I claim to lack belief in gods. That is a different
statement to "god does not exist", but I do not speak for all atheists,
some of who would say that.
Atheists deny the existence of God. Agnostics see the evidence but don't find
it convincing.
All agree on the basic fundamental - Jesus is Lord.
And Greeks would all have have agreed that Zeus was father of the gods.
The Heaven's Gate crowd would all have agreed on reality of the spacehip
following the comet. Your point?
They all died out. Christianity is growing in leaps and bounds.
duke
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| User: "GoDrex" |
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19 Jun 2005 06:25:33 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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Atheists deny the existence of God. Agnostics see the evidence but don't
find
it convincing.
it's no wonder douche is so confused
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| User: "Schism" |
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20 Jun 2005 10:34:09 PM |
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They all died out. Christianity is growing in leaps and bounds.
Islam is growing faster than christianity.
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| User: "Walking on Glass" |
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20 Jun 2005 01:22:41 PM |
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And lo, it came to pass that did attempt to esape
burning at the stake, by proclaiming in alt.atheism:
On 19 Jun 2005 18:01:06 GMT, Walking on Glass
<walking_on_glass@hotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote:
On the contrary, you demonstrate NO knowledge.
Joining other people in their delusions isn't my bag, baby. You have
no objective evidence for your belief.
You're the one with delusions. There is NO evidence that God doesn't
exist.
I have no wish to argue that god doesn't exist. You have no evidence that
he *does*, neither does anyone else.
Lack of evidence. You're the one making the claim that a god exists,
Lack of evidence. You're the one saying he doesn't.
No. As an atheist, I claim to lack belief in gods. That is a different
statement to "god does not exist", but I do not speak for all
atheists, some of who would say that.
Atheists deny the existence of God. Agnostics see the evidence but
don't find it convincing.
Geez duke. How long have you been on this group?
All agree on the basic fundamental - Jesus is Lord.
And Greeks would all have have agreed that Zeus was father of the
gods. The Heaven's Gate crowd would all have agreed on reality of the
spacehip following the comet. Your point?
They all died out. Christianity is growing in leaps and bounds.
Not here (UK)!
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20 Jun 2005 05:33:24 PM |
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On 20 Jun 2005 18:22:41 GMT, Walking on Glass
<walking_on_glass@hotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote:
You're the one with delusions. There is NO evidence that God doesn't
exist.
I have no wish to argue that god doesn't exist. You have no evidence that
he *does*, neither does anyone else.
Oh, I have evidence galore. In fact, all evidence, in existence, demands his
existence.
No. As an atheist, I claim to lack belief in gods. That is a different
statement to "god does not exist", but I do not speak for all
atheists, some of who would say that.
Atheists deny the existence of God. Agnostics see the evidence but
don't find it convincing.
Geez duke. How long have you been on this group?
I know what the definition says. You reject when you say the prevailing
evidence is not acceptable.
They all died out. Christianity is growing in leaps and bounds.
Not here (UK)!
Europe has long ago been declared the projected home of the anti-Christ.
Yep, I see it coming.
duke
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21 Jun 2005 02:03:35 PM |
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And lo, it came to pass that did attempt to esape
burning at the stake, by proclaiming in alt.atheism:
Europe has long ago been declared the projected home of the
anti-Christ.
Yep, I see it coming.
Well, that figures - according to the Eastern orthodox church, it is *you*
(the Catholics) who are being deceived by Satan!
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21 Jun 2005 07:31:32 PM |
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Europe has long ago been declared the projected home of the
anti-Christ.
Yep, I see it coming.
Walking on Glass wrote:
Well, that figures - according to the Eastern orthodox church, it is *you*
(the Catholics) who are being deceived by Satan!
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Interesting I'm sure. Only God doesn't judge by class or membership only the
individual.
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on the closing day of the Constitutional Convention, a woman
asked him what kind of government the statesmen had given America.
Franklin replied: 'A republic, Madame, if you can keep it.'
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22 Jun 2005 07:40:47 AM |
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"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Europe has long ago been declared the projected home of the
anti-Christ.
Yep, I see it coming.
Walking on Glass wrote:
Well, that figures - according to the Eastern orthodox church, it is
*you*
(the Catholics) who are being deceived by Satan!
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Interesting I'm sure. Only God doesn't judge by class or membership only
the
individual.
When did he tell you this?
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Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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22 Jun 2005 06:38:40 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:40:47 -0400, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com>
wrote:
Interesting I'm sure. Only God doesn't judge by class or membership only
the
individual.
When did he tell you this?
You claim to be an atheist and you are so demonstratedly ignorant of the
Christian faith????????
Just as I have been telling you lately.
duke
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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22 Jun 2005 11:01:52 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:40:47 -0400, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com>
wrote:
Interesting I'm sure. Only God doesn't judge by class or membership only
the
individual.
When did he tell you this?
You claim to be an atheist and you are so demonstratedly ignorant of the
Christian faith????????
What's with the question marks? Think more than one will get your point
across? It doesn't. It makes you look like a child. By the way, I'm
willing to bet that Robyn knows more about the Christian faith than YOU do.
Just as I have been telling you lately.
Saying that you're learned doesn't make you so.
Here's something easy for someone well versed in the Christian religion
to do:
Write an essay of no less than 100 words explaining the differences and
similarities between the Christian god and Ahura Mazda.
Space provided below:
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22 Jun 2005 02:51:38 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Europe has long ago been declared the projected home of the
anti-Christ.
Yep, I see it coming.
Walking on Glass wrote:
Well, that figures - according to the Eastern orthodox church, it is
*you*
(the Catholics) who are being deceived by Satan!
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Interesting I'm sure. Only God doesn't judge by class or membership only
the
individual.
When did he tell you this?
Actually, Jesus tells an opposite story.
"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a
needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." (Matthew 19:24)
"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a
rich man to enter the kingdom of God." (Mark 10:25)
"Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than
for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." (Luke 18:25)
All NT stuff.
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22 Jun 2005 02:54:23 PM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BEDE29A3.6B0E7%chenault@mindspring.com...
Europe has long ago been declared the projected home of the
anti-Christ.
Yep, I see it coming.
Walking on Glass wrote:
Well, that figures - according to the Eastern orthodox church, it is
*you*
(the Catholics) who are being deceived by Satan!
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Interesting I'm sure. Only God doesn't judge by class or membership only
the
individual.
When did he tell you this?
Actually, Jesus tells an opposite story.
"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a
needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." (Matthew 19:24)
"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a
rich man to enter the kingdom of God." (Mark 10:25)
"Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than
for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." (Luke 18:25)
All NT stuff.
Ah, so this god discriminates against the rich, eh? Funny how georgann
disagrees with her bible. What I find even funnier is that way she speaks
for her god.
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22 Jun 2005 06:42:34 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:54:23 -0400, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com>
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Ah, so this god discriminates against the rich, eh? Funny how georgann
disagrees with her bible. What I find even funnier is that way she speaks
for her god.
Ah, more atheist ignorance. Pick your god, robin.
duke
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22 Jun 2005 06:41:42 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:51:38 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:
Interesting I'm sure. Only God doesn't judge by class or membership only
the
individual.
When did he tell you this?
Actually, Jesus tells an opposite story.
Not a chance, dummy snowden. Do you even know what the eye of the camel is?
"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a
needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." (Matthew 19:24)
"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a
rich man to enter the kingdom of God." (Mark 10:25)
"Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than
for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." (Luke 18:25)
All NT stuff.
But of course, for we can have only one master - God or money, or things, or
gold, or .........................etc. etc. etc.
Speaking of ignorant. You atheists take the cake.
duke
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Pope Paul VI
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23 Jun 2005 12:04:38 AM |
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duke wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:51:38 GMT, DanielSan
<daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:
Interesting I'm sure. Only God doesn't judge by class or
membership only the individual.
When did he tell you this?
Actually, Jesus tells an opposite story.
Not a chance, dummy snowden. Do you even know what the eye of the
camel is?
Yes, it's what a camel sees out of.
Did the nuns impress you after school by telling you what the "eye of the
needle is"?
Have you bothered to actually do any research on it yourself or does
learning by rote what was taught by rote satisfy you?
Guess what? They were wrong.
http://www.biblicalhebrew.com/nt/camelneedle.htm
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22 Jun 2005 11:06:52 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:51:38 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:
Interesting I'm sure. Only God doesn't judge by class or membership only
the
individual.
When did he tell you this?
Actually, Jesus tells an opposite story.
Not a chance, dummy snowden. Do you even know what the eye of the camel is?
What the heck is an "eye of the camel?" It says "eye of a needle" not
"eye of a camel," dummy.
My name's not snowden, by the way.
"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a
needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." (Matthew 19:24)
"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a
rich man to enter the kingdom of God." (Mark 10:25)
"Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than
for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." (Luke 18:25)
All NT stuff.
But of course, for we can have only one master - God or money, or things, or
gold, or .........................etc. etc. etc.
So, the Christian god *DOES* judge by class? Because rich folks worship
money, not God. Therefore, in a way, the Christian god is judging by class.
Speaking of ignorant. You atheists take the cake.
Mmm. Cake. There'll be loads of cake in Valhalla. :-D
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22 Jun 2005 05:19:33 PM |
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And lo, it came to pass that did attempt to
esape burning at the stake, by proclaiming in alt.atheism:
Europe has long ago been declared the projected home of the
anti-Christ.
Yep, I see it coming.
Walking on Glass wrote:
Well, that figures - according to the Eastern orthodox church, it is
*you* (the Catholics) who are being deceived by Satan!
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Interesting I'm sure. Only God doesn't judge by class or membership
only the individual.
You may believe that - other Christians probably disagree with you.
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AA #2053
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22 Jun 2005 06:43:22 PM |
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On 22 Jun 2005 22:19:33 GMT, Walking on Glass
<walking_on_glass@hotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote:
Interesting I'm sure. Only God doesn't judge by class or membership
only the individual.
You may believe that - other Christians probably disagree with you.
More atheist ignorance. You reject what you have absolutely no idea about.
duke
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Pope Paul VI
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21 Jun 2005 08:55:35 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:31:32 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
Interesting I'm sure. Only God doesn't judge by class or membership only the
individual.
Wrong. God condemns entire nations in the OT, and makes it clear that
your great-great-great-great-great-grandfather's sin would still be
your fault. So if you had an ancestor who sinned against god in 1700,
you're screwed.
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "duke" |
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22 Jun 2005 06:37:10 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:55:35 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Interesting I'm sure. Only God doesn't judge by class or membership only the
individual.
Wrong. God condemns entire nations in the OT, and makes it clear that
your great-great-great-great-great-grandfather's sin would still be
your fault. So if you had an ancestor who sinned against god in 1700,
you're screwed.
Wrong, p_b. We are not judged for what our ancestors did, but for what we do.
Original sin is ours, not our ancestors. We are born with the sin nature as
demonstrated by A&E. We are baptized into the Body of Christ.
You're flunking religion badly, berry. You better do some more study before you
take on the learned.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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22 Jun 2005 10:46:53 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:37:10 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:55:35 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Interesting I'm sure. Only God doesn't judge by class or membership only the
individual.
Wrong. God condemns entire nations in the OT, and makes it clear that
your great-great-great-great-great-grandfather's sin would still be
your fault. So if you had an ancestor who sinned against god in 1700,
you're screwed.
Wrong, p_b. We are not judged for what our ancestors did, but for what we do.
Earl, I'm getting tired of giving you Bible lessons.
Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them:
for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the
fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them
that hate me;
Original sin is ours, not our ancestors. We are born with the sin nature as
demonstrated by A&E. We are baptized into the Body of Christ.
You're flunking religion badly, berry. You better do some more study before you
take on the learned.
LOL!
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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22 Jun 2005 10:57:51 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:55:35 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Interesting I'm sure. Only God doesn't judge by class or membership only the
individual.
Wrong. God condemns entire nations in the OT, and makes it clear that
your great-great-great-great-great-grandfather's sin would still be
your fault. So if you had an ancestor who sinned against god in 1700,
you're screwed.
Wrong, p_b. We are not judged for what our ancestors did, but for what we do.
Original sin is ours, not our ancestors. We are born with the sin nature as
demonstrated by A&E. We are baptized into the Body of Christ.
So, we're not judged for what our ancestors did, but we have original
sin for what A&E did? Are A&E our ancestors?
You're flunking religion badly, berry. You better do some more study before you
take on the learned.
Duke, learned? Hahahahahahahahaha....
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| User: "duke" |
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21 Jun 2005 05:55:06 PM |
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On 21 Jun 2005 19:03:35 GMT, Walking on Glass
<walking_on_glass@hotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote:
And lo, it came to pass that did attempt to esape
burning at the stake, by proclaiming in alt.atheism:
Europe has long ago been declared the projected home of the
anti-Christ.
Yep, I see it coming.
Well, that figures - according to the Eastern orthodox church, it is *you*
(the Catholics) who are being deceived by Satan!
Where?
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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