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| User: |
"LionOfJudah" |
| Date: |
06 Jun 2004 12:40:25 PM |
| Object: |
It is better to be atheist |
The people who believe in God are the most totally fucked up people on the
face of the earth.
I'll give you this one simple example.
Some mormons were speaking to this simple minded woman, not an atheist but
nevertheless she was not really that strongly into her religion. So I heard
them bullshitting her about the Jews being the specially chose people of God
and all that garbage so immediately I said let me show these fucking monkeys
what a load of bull thay really believe in.
So I approached them and my neighbour and said I have a problem maybe you
can help me understand it. I asked them to read Numbers:15:32 and they did :
Numbers:15:32: And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they
found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.
33: And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and
Aaron, and unto all the congregation.
34: And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be
done to him.
35: And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all
the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
36: And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him
with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses.
Now after they had read this, the woman who was not religious was shocked.
Her reaction was, "But why did they do that?!" And yet the learned
religious assholes didn't think anything of it at all, their response was,
"What's the problem? They executed someone for breaking the Sabbath."
So then I asked them, didn't Jesus say the Sabbath was created for man and
not man for the Sabbath? So how can God tell Moses to kill someone for not
keeping the Sabbath?
Then they started with their Old covenenant New covenant *****. So then
I told them, I don't care what the covenant was when Moses stoned that man
to death, I know that is murder. Killing someone for such a victimless
"crime" isn't moral. It's like giving the death penalty to someone for
littering. The punishment doesn't fit the crime. In the case of a litterer
you can make him pay a fine or do community service of cleaning up litter.
In the case of the Sabbath breaker they could have put him in prison and
denied him making wages for some length of time if they really think the
Sabbath should be kept.
But it is just plain evil and morally corrupt to stone someone to death for
the harmless act of gathering sticks on some Sabbath day, which in the very
height of hypocrisy they call a holy day! A day for which people are
murdered for doing harmless things like gathering sticks!
Anyway the point is, the unlearned non-nreligous woman did not accept that
it was justifiable that they killed the man despite being shown that it was
what "God" commanded Moses to do. But the learned religious ASSHOLES had no
problem at all with the execution of that man
Why? The answer is quite simple. From the time religious pepole hear the
word "God" they turn into total cunts. They can no longer reason. If it is
written that God said, "Kill your neighbours, your sons and your companions
and I will bestow upon you a great blessing," then that is what must be done
no questions asked! And that's exactly what happened in Exodus:26:32.
Now the woman was already suspicious of having anything to do with their
religion, so I made it even worse. I read them these verses :
Matthew:6:22: The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be
single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
23: But *if thine eye be evil*, *thy whole body shall be full of darkness*.
Exodus:20:21: And the people stood afar off, and Moses drew near unto the
thick darkness where God was.
2Chronicles:6:1: Then said Solomon, *The LORD hath said that he would dwell
in the thick darkness*.
John:14:3: And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and
receive you unto myself; that *where I am, there ye may be also*.
John:12:46: I am come a light into the world, that *whosoever believeth on
me should not abide in darkness*.
I told them straight to their face that I believe the God of the Old
Testament is the Devil and showed them more of the evil that God commited in
front of the woman, such as Exodus:26:32 and Numbers:21:5 where God sent
fiery serpents to kill the people of Israel after they asked why they were
being led into an evil place and God told Moses to make a serpent made of
brass which they had to worship if they wanted to live.
I told them Judaism is a Satanic religion and if they think Jews are the
specially chosen people of God I can never follow their prophet Jospeh
Smith.
Needless to say, the woman was interested in following them either she just
told them she's not into religion and that she believes in God and that she
knows God is love and not cruel.
Mormons are just another plague on the face of this earth spreading their
false ***** about a God who murders people for stupid ***** and then
calling it a holy day for which they are murdered.
Religious theists are dumb fucking moneys. They would kill without a thought
if they were led to beleive it's what God wanted them to do, just as all the
murder we read of in the Old Testament.
--
"The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent." Brad Rogers
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/h/Christ-Son-of-Buddha/TheWordOfGod_1.htm
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| User: "LionOfJudah" |
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| Title: Re: It is better to be atheist |
15 Jun 2004 11:23:39 AM |
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My faith is just getting to squeeze out of
this
life
every
iota
of
information of Who God is...and what God wants
from
me. I
do
not
want
to
waste a second.... I love my Creator....He is
the
most
wonderful
part of
my
existence....I don't care what anyone says....
He
is
awesome!!
Although you may not agree with me, I would
say
that
there
is
nothing that is not God. This is how
omnipotence,
omnipresence
and
omniscience are maintained.
in that case, i see nothing to argue against. it
does
however,
appear
to me
to render god meaningless. if this contradicts
omnipotence...i'm
not
sure
i'm not sure i can be bothered to think about
it...
It doesn't contradict omnipotence, it defines
it as
being
able
to
do all that is done. Not even God can do that which
cannot
be
done,
although God can do many things that cannot be done
by
man.
Omnipotence doesn't mean being able to make a
four-sided
triangle
or
other such logical nonsense; but being able to
perform
and
actually
performing every single act that occurs.
fair enough. but what about the
meaninglessness,
if
everything
that
occurs is god?
Pat and others like him make up a bunch of nonsense
which
they
have
not
the
knowledge from their own expereinces yet insist they are
correct
and
which
cannot even be reasoned using the scriptures they
supposedly
believe
in.
we don't have your experience, bernie.
You don't need it, possum. You have my word.
i'm on a buddhist news group. i have to see it for my
self.
not that i'm supposed to have one of them. : )
There are some things that you can see for yourself, and there
are
somethings which you can't but can take on faith from a person
you
trust
such as the Buddha.
But YOU are not a person like Buddha. I will put my faith in
the
science that can demonstrate God. I trust that possum will make
his
own mind up. Even if it differs from either of us!
Science deals with what can be perceived and observed. Nirvana
isn't.
Science can never demonstrate Nirvana.
You say nirvana isn't perceived. How did you "hear" about it?
The same way I can hear about the indescribable, doesn't mean the mind
can
percieve it.
Which is why the Buddha says to think that he "reappears" doesn't apply,
and
"doesn't reappear" also doesn't apply.
Science can never demonstrate Nirvana.
Can you observe the word "nirvana" when I write it?
Observing a word is different from knowing what it describes.
Why do I bother wasting my time with a stupid fucking monkey like you
when
you think you some sort of expert on science and religion with all your
***** excuses and lies in defense of what you consider to be God when
it
is obviously evil and insanity promising blessings to people for killing
their own neighbors and companions even their own sons and senselessly
slaughtering children and sheep and oxes?
You're absolutely right!! Why should a man who derives his
destiny from hallucinations and delusions and half-informed concepts
get anything from anyone.
If that's what you really believed, then why do you keep responding?
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| User: "Pat Harrington" |
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| Title: Re: It is better to be atheist |
14 Jun 2004 03:56:19 AM |
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My faith is just getting to squeeze out of this life every iota
of
information of Who God is...and what God wants from me. I do
not
want
to
waste a second.... I love my Creator....He is the most wonderful
part of
my
existence....I don't care what anyone says.... He is awesome!!
Although you may not agree with me, I would say that there is
nothing that is not God. This is how omnipotence, omnipresence
and
omniscience are maintained.
in that case, i see nothing to argue against. it does however,
appear
to me
to render god meaningless. if this contradicts omnipotence...i'm
not
sure
i'm not sure i can be bothered to think about it...
It doesn't contradict omnipotence, it defines it as being able to
do all that is done. Not even God can do that which cannot be done,
although God can do many things that cannot be done by man.
Omnipotence doesn't mean being able to make a four-sided triangle or
other such logical nonsense; but being able to perform and actually
performing every single act that occurs.
fair enough. but what about the meaninglessness, if everything
that
occurs is god?
Pat and others like him make up a bunch of nonsense which they have not
the
knowledge from their own expereinces yet insist they are correct and which
cannot even be reasoned using the scriptures they supposedly believe in.
we don't have your experience, bernie.
I don't think that Bernie even believes what he has written here.
In all that I have done, I have only added one concept to already
established M-theory physics by stating that one of the dimensions of
the Calabi-Yau space is a referential dimension. This does not change
the way the mathematics works generally but does change how the energy
relates to itself. It means that every quantum of energy is linked by
this reference, which means that all energy is actually one object. I
also state that, since some conformations of energy exhibit awareness
and/or consciousness, this awareness/consciousness must be a property
of energy that is only demonstrated by certain conformations. These
two small additions to the firm basis of M-theory physics have major
implications in the realms of metaphysics. For example, it would
imply that all the consciousness is also linked such that your
consciousness and mine are different due to the variance of our local
conformation (DNA/nature) and the local experiences (nurture) that our
conformations have enjoyed.
Then, I try to find scriptures that can be interpreted based on
this information. This is not an unreasonable task, as Bernie might
have you believe. He feels that way due to the nature of logical
conflicts within his own metaphysics. Yet my theory allows for him to
feel that way and have his beliefs, whereas his theory does not allow
for mine. So, based on the fact that we both feel the way we do, my
theory must be superior as, of the two, it allows for the reality of
theactual situation.
The main difference between Bernie and myself is that I derive my
theory from science first and then look to religion(s) for support
whereas Bernie begins with religion and then tries to twist science to
support it.
With respect to the meaningfulness or meaninglessness of life if
everything is God, I must elaborate with analogies. Our
consciousnesses are seemingly separate due to our local
nature/nurture. Yet they are linked, in God, and can relate to one
another similar to how neural cells relate to one another. We are, in
a sense, cells of consciousness in the mind of God. One does not
expect that any one brain cell would understand or come anywhere near
to grasping the workings of the entire brain. Similarly, it is
difficult for us to grasp the workings of the mind of God from our
limited perspective. This is why Bernie and countless others (myself
included at times!!) cannot perceive the necessity behind certain
actions of God. If we had the resources of the entire mind of God at
our disposal, we would probably instantly see why some things have
been the way they were. But, because spacetime is a continuum within
which there are no missin spatial or temporal points, we can
faithfully and plainly see that the beginning leads to the end.
Therefore, there is necessity to everything that occurs, since, in the
continuum, the future is already there. The way to get to this future
is, from a Jewish perspective, to live our lives or, from a Buddhist
perspective, watch how our lives are lived.
The important thing to do is to learn. By learning, we increase
our consciousness and, thus, increase the consciousness of the whole,
i.e. God. This growth of consciousness IS the meaning of life, as it
serves the purpose of being the opposite of the growth of entropic
energy. Because this growth of consciousness always increases over
time, like the pool of entropy increases over time by the
"dissipation" of energy, I have termed this growth "extropic". Given
that both of these processes should continue forever, they will
ultimately yield two pools of energy: one of consciousness derived
from learning and one of pure potential energy derived from entropic
dissipation. These would be the Yin and Yang of Taoism. Of course,
the pool of consciousness would know about the pool of potential
energy and this consciousness would still have potential. So the
familiar Yin/Yang symbol, with the seed of one another in each other
is a very appropriate symbol for the result. What consciousness does
with the potential is anyone's guess. But all we have to do is our
part.
psm
psm
psm
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Keep untwisting their wicks, Pat. They have bought into a
system
that
gives
them nothing but darkness!!
Pat has a cheerleader! Another twisted Jew *****.
Not the least bit surprised.
Mary had her reservations regarding me at first, but I
think
she
now understands that I mean no harm to her or her faith. You,
on
the
other hand, are deluded, as neither Mary nor me is Jewish.
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| User: "LionOfJudah" |
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| Title: Re: It is better to be atheist |
14 Jun 2004 09:11:26 AM |
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My faith is just getting to squeeze out of this life every
iota
of
information of Who God is...and what God wants from me. I
do
not
want
to
waste a second.... I love my Creator....He is the most
wonderful
part of
my
existence....I don't care what anyone says.... He is
awesome!!
Although you may not agree with me, I would say that
there is
nothing that is not God. This is how omnipotence,
omnipresence
and
omniscience are maintained.
in that case, i see nothing to argue against. it does however,
appear
to me
to render god meaningless. if this contradicts
omnipotence...i'm
not
sure
i'm not sure i can be bothered to think about it...
It doesn't contradict omnipotence, it defines it as being
able to
do all that is done. Not even God can do that which cannot be
done,
although God can do many things that cannot be done by man.
Omnipotence doesn't mean being able to make a four-sided triangle
or
other such logical nonsense; but being able to perform and
actually
performing every single act that occurs.
fair enough. but what about the meaninglessness, if
everything
that
occurs is god?
Pat and others like him make up a bunch of nonsense which they have
not
the
knowledge from their own expereinces yet insist they are correct and
which
cannot even be reasoned using the scriptures they supposedly believe
in.
we don't have your experience, bernie.
I don't think that Bernie even believes what he has written here.
You don't think? Yep, that about sums up your problem.
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| User: "Pat Harrington" |
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| Title: Re: It is better to be atheist |
14 Jun 2004 06:54:29 PM |
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My faith is just getting to squeeze out of this life every
iota
of
information of Who God is...and what God wants from me. I
do
not
want
to
waste a second.... I love my Creator....He is the most
wonderful
part of
my
existence....I don't care what anyone says.... He is
awesome!!
Although you may not agree with me, I would say that
there is
nothing that is not God. This is how omnipotence,
omnipresence
and
omniscience are maintained.
in that case, i see nothing to argue against. it does however,
appear
to me
to render god meaningless. if this contradicts
omnipotence...i'm
not
sure
i'm not sure i can be bothered to think about it...
It doesn't contradict omnipotence, it defines it as being
able to
do all that is done. Not even God can do that which cannot be
done,
although God can do many things that cannot be done by man.
Omnipotence doesn't mean being able to make a four-sided triangle
or
other such logical nonsense; but being able to perform and
actually
performing every single act that occurs.
fair enough. but what about the meaninglessness, if
everything
that
occurs is god?
Pat and others like him make up a bunch of nonsense which they have
not
the
knowledge from their own expereinces yet insist they are correct and
which
cannot even be reasoned using the scriptures they supposedly believe
in.
we don't have your experience, bernie.
I don't think that Bernie even believes what he has written here.
You don't think? Yep, that about sums up your problem.
What a grand refutation. I imagined most of what I wrote was way
beyond your capacity, much less your attention span. This type of
retort pretty much confirms it. The least you could do is to try to
understand M-theory physics and try to come back with a meaningful
reply, but, considering you probably can't get your head around
quadratic equations, I would think that the octonion (that's
8-dimensional) algebra would be well out of your league. Heck, you
probably couldn't even construct a hexagram with a compass and rule.
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| User: "LionOfJudah" |
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| Title: Re: It is better to be atheist |
14 Jun 2004 07:19:02 PM |
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My faith is just getting to squeeze out of this life
every
iota
of
information of Who God is...and what God wants from me.
I
do
not
want
to
waste a second.... I love my Creator....He is the most
wonderful
part of
my
existence....I don't care what anyone says.... He is
awesome!!
Although you may not agree with me, I would say that
there is
nothing that is not God. This is how omnipotence,
omnipresence
and
omniscience are maintained.
in that case, i see nothing to argue against. it does
however,
appear
to me
to render god meaningless. if this contradicts
omnipotence...i'm
not
sure
i'm not sure i can be bothered to think about it...
It doesn't contradict omnipotence, it defines it as being
able to
do all that is done. Not even God can do that which cannot be
done,
although God can do many things that cannot be done by man.
Omnipotence doesn't mean being able to make a four-sided
triangle
or
other such logical nonsense; but being able to perform and
actually
performing every single act that occurs.
fair enough. but what about the meaninglessness, if
everything
that
occurs is god?
Pat and others like him make up a bunch of nonsense which they
have
not
the
knowledge from their own expereinces yet insist they are correct
and
which
cannot even be reasoned using the scriptures they supposedly
believe
in.
we don't have your experience, bernie.
I don't think that Bernie even believes what he has written here.
You don't think? Yep, that about sums up your problem.
What a grand refutation.
The truth always is.
.
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| User: "Pat Harrington" |
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| Title: Re: It is better to be atheist |
15 Jun 2004 05:26:00 AM |
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"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
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My faith is just getting to squeeze out of this life
every
iota
of
information of Who God is...and what God wants from me.
I
do
not
want
to
waste a second.... I love my Creator....He is the most
wonderful
part of
my
existence....I don't care what anyone says.... He is
awesome!!
Although you may not agree with me, I would say that
there is
nothing that is not God. This is how omnipotence,
omnipresence
and
omniscience are maintained.
in that case, i see nothing to argue against. it does
however,
appear
to me
to render god meaningless. if this contradicts
omnipotence...i'm
not
sure
i'm not sure i can be bothered to think about it...
It doesn't contradict omnipotence, it defines it as being
able to
do all that is done. Not even God can do that which cannot be
done,
although God can do many things that cannot be done by man.
Omnipotence doesn't mean being able to make a four-sided
triangle
or
other such logical nonsense; but being able to perform and
actually
performing every single act that occurs.
fair enough. but what about the meaninglessness, if
everything
that
occurs is god?
Pat and others like him make up a bunch of nonsense which they
have
not
the
knowledge from their own expereinces yet insist they are correct
and
which
cannot even be reasoned using the scriptures they supposedly
believe
in.
we don't have your experience, bernie.
I don't think that Bernie even believes what he has written here.
You don't think? Yep, that about sums up your problem.
What a grand refutation.
The truth always is.
Unfortunately, you'll have to wait for the truth to meet you...and it will.
.
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| User: "LionOfJudah" |
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| Title: Re: It is better to be atheist |
15 Jun 2004 11:24:42 AM |
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"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
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My faith is just getting to squeeze out of this life
every
iota
of
information of Who God is...and what God wants from
me.
I
do
not
want
to
waste a second.... I love my Creator....He is the
most
wonderful
part of
my
existence....I don't care what anyone says.... He
is
awesome!!
Although you may not agree with me, I would say
that
there is
nothing that is not God. This is how omnipotence,
omnipresence
and
omniscience are maintained.
in that case, i see nothing to argue against. it does
however,
appear
to me
to render god meaningless. if this contradicts
omnipotence...i'm
not
sure
i'm not sure i can be bothered to think about it...
It doesn't contradict omnipotence, it defines it as
being
able to
do all that is done. Not even God can do that which
cannot be
done,
although God can do many things that cannot be done by
man.
Omnipotence doesn't mean being able to make a four-sided
triangle
or
other such logical nonsense; but being able to perform and
actually
performing every single act that occurs.
fair enough. but what about the meaninglessness, if
everything
that
occurs is god?
Pat and others like him make up a bunch of nonsense which they
have
not
the
knowledge from their own expereinces yet insist they are
correct
and
which
cannot even be reasoned using the scriptures they supposedly
believe
in.
we don't have your experience, bernie.
I don't think that Bernie even believes what he has written
here.
You don't think? Yep, that about sums up your problem.
What a grand refutation.
The truth always is.
Unfortunately, you'll have to wait for the truth to meet you...and it
will.
The truth has already been revealed to you. You just rather have your head
buried up the devil's ***** and call him God because it's more famiLIAR to
you.
.
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| User: "Pat Harrington" |
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| Title: Re: It is better to be atheist |
15 Jun 2004 07:10:10 PM |
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"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
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My faith is just getting to squeeze out of this life
every
iota
of
information of Who God is...and what God wants from
me.
I
do
not
want
to
waste a second.... I love my Creator....He is the
most
wonderful
part of
my
existence....I don't care what anyone says.... He
is
awesome!!
Although you may not agree with me, I would say
that
there is
nothing that is not God. This is how omnipotence,
omnipresence
and
omniscience are maintained.
in that case, i see nothing to argue against. it does
however,
appear
to me
to render god meaningless. if this contradicts
omnipotence...i'm
not
sure
i'm not sure i can be bothered to think about it...
It doesn't contradict omnipotence, it defines it as
being
able to
do all that is done. Not even God can do that which
cannot be
done,
although God can do many things that cannot be done by
man.
Omnipotence doesn't mean being able to make a four-sided
triangle
or
other such logical nonsense; but being able to perform and
actually
performing every single act that occurs.
fair enough. but what about the meaninglessness, if
everything
that
occurs is god?
Pat and others like him make up a bunch of nonsense which they
have
not
the
knowledge from their own expereinces yet insist they are
correct
and
which
cannot even be reasoned using the scriptures they supposedly
believe
in.
we don't have your experience, bernie.
I don't think that Bernie even believes what he has written
here.
You don't think? Yep, that about sums up your problem.
What a grand refutation.
The truth always is.
Unfortunately, you'll have to wait for the truth to meet you...and it
will.
The truth has already been revealed to you. You just rather have your head
buried up the devil's ***** and call him God because it's more famiLIAR to
you.
I've never gone anywhere near any evil donkeys!! And why would I
call an evil donkey, God? Oh...you mean ARSE!!!
The truth would seek to avoid you and it has done a smashing job
at just that. The universe wouldn't waste the truth on you. It would
fall on spiritually deaf ears. You only listen to the still small
voice of Samael.
.
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| User: "LionOfJudah" |
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| Title: Re: It is better to be atheist |
14 Jun 2004 07:19:02 PM |
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My faith is just getting to squeeze out of this life
every
iota
of
information of Who God is...and what God wants from me.
I
do
not
want
to
waste a second.... I love my Creator....He is the most
wonderful
part of
my
existence....I don't care what anyone says.... He is
awesome!!
Although you may not agree with me, I would say that
there is
nothing that is not God. This is how omnipotence,
omnipresence
and
omniscience are maintained.
in that case, i see nothing to argue against. it does
however,
appear
to me
to render god meaningless. if this contradicts
omnipotence...i'm
not
sure
i'm not sure i can be bothered to think about it...
It doesn't contradict omnipotence, it defines it as being
able to
do all that is done. Not even God can do that which cannot be
done,
although God can do many things that cannot be done by man.
Omnipotence doesn't mean being able to make a four-sided
triangle
or
other such logical nonsense; but being able to perform and
actually
performing every single act that occurs.
fair enough. but what about the meaninglessness, if
everything
that
occurs is god?
Pat and others like him make up a bunch of nonsense which they
have
not
the
knowledge from their own expereinces yet insist they are correct
and
which
cannot even be reasoned using the scriptures they supposedly
believe
in.
we don't have your experience, bernie.
I don't think that Bernie even believes what he has written here.
You don't think? Yep, that about sums up your problem.
What a grand refutation.
The truth always is.
.
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| User: "Pat Harrington" |
|
| Title: Re: It is better to be atheist |
16 Jun 2004 05:40:31 AM |
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My faith is just getting to squeeze out of this life
every
iota
of
information of Who God is...and what God wants from me.
I
do
not
want
to
waste a second.... I love my Creator....He is the most
wonderful
part of
my
existence....I don't care what anyone says.... He is
awesome!!
Although you may not agree with me, I would say that
there is
nothing that is not God. This is how omnipotence,
omnipresence
and
omniscience are maintained.
in that case, i see nothing to argue against. it does
however,
appear
to me
to render god meaningless. if this contradicts
omnipotence...i'm
not
sure
i'm not sure i can be bothered to think about it...
It doesn't contradict omnipotence, it defines it as being
able to
do all that is done. Not even God can do that which cannot be
done,
although God can do many things that cannot be done by man.
Omnipotence doesn't mean being able to make a four-sided
triangle
or
other such logical nonsense; but being able to perform and
actually
performing every single act that occurs.
fair enough. but what about the meaninglessness, if
everything
that
occurs is god?
Pat and others like him make up a bunch of nonsense which they
have
not
the
knowledge from their own expereinces yet insist they are correct
and
which
cannot even be reasoned using the scriptures they supposedly
believe
in.
we don't have your experience, bernie.
I don't think that Bernie even believes what he has written here.
You don't think? Yep, that about sums up your problem.
What a grand refutation.
The truth always is.
Yes, too bad you keep preventing yourself from enjoying it.
.
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| User: "LionOfJudah" |
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| Title: Re: It is better to be atheist |
16 Jun 2004 11:07:27 AM |
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"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
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My faith is just getting to squeeze out of this life
every
iota
of
information of Who God is...and what God wants from
me.
I
do
not
want
to
waste a second.... I love my Creator....He is the
most
wonderful
part of
my
existence....I don't care what anyone says.... He
is
awesome!!
Although you may not agree with me, I would say
that
there is
nothing that is not God. This is how omnipotence,
omnipresence
and
omniscience are maintained.
in that case, i see nothing to argue against. it does
however,
appear
to me
to render god meaningless. if this contradicts
omnipotence...i'm
not
sure
i'm not sure i can be bothered to think about it...
It doesn't contradict omnipotence, it defines it as
being
able to
do all that is done. Not even God can do that which
cannot be
done,
although God can do many things that cannot be done by
man.
Omnipotence doesn't mean being able to make a four-sided
triangle
or
other such logical nonsense; but being able to perform and
actually
performing every single act that occurs.
fair enough. but what about the meaninglessness, if
everything
that
occurs is god?
Pat and others like him make up a bunch of nonsense which they
have
not
the
knowledge from their own expereinces yet insist they are
correct
and
which
cannot even be reasoned using the scriptures they supposedly
believe
in.
we don't have your experience, bernie.
I don't think that Bernie even believes what he has written
here.
You don't think? Yep, that about sums up your problem.
What a grand refutation.
The truth always is.
Yes, too bad you keep preventing yourself from enjoying it.
Sure, Samael, whatever you say!
.
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| User: "Pat Harrington" |
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| Title: Re: It is better to be atheist |
16 Jun 2004 05:58:31 PM |
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My faith is just getting to squeeze out of this life
every
iota
of
information of Who God is...and what God wants from
me.
I
do
not
want
to
waste a second.... I love my Creator....He is the
most
wonderful
part of
my
existence....I don't care what anyone says.... He
is
awesome!!
Although you may not agree with me, I would say
that
there is
nothing that is not God. This is how omnipotence,
omnipresence
and
omniscience are maintained.
in that case, i see nothing to argue against. it does
however,
appear
to me
to render god meaningless. if this contradicts
omnipotence...i'm
not
sure
i'm not sure i can be bothered to think about it...
It doesn't contradict omnipotence, it defines it as
being
able to
do all that is done. Not even God can do that which
cannot be
done,
although God can do many things that cannot be done by
man.
Omnipotence doesn't mean being able to make a four-sided
triangle
or
other such logical nonsense; but being able to perform and
actually
performing every single act that occurs.
fair enough. but what about the meaninglessness, if
everything
that
occurs is god?
Pat and others like him make up a bunch of nonsense which they
have
not
the
knowledge from their own expereinces yet insist they are
correct
and
which
cannot even be reasoned using the scriptures they supposedly
believe
in.
we don't have your experience, bernie.
I don't think that Bernie even believes what he has written
here.
You don't think? Yep, that about sums up your problem.
What a grand refutation.
The truth always is.
Yes, too bad you keep preventing yourself from enjoying it.
Sure, Samael, whatever you say!
Sometimes you surprise me. This isn't one of them. Why don't you
start calling me Bernard Cozier; that'll make 'em think. Who IS the
real Bernie? Samael speaks only things hateful and full of tricks and
deceit and mixes truth with lies to make people believe in weird
things. This isn't me at all but it DOES sound a lot like you. The
thing is Samael is a lot smarter than you, which is why I would only
say you are a minion of his. You're not demonstrating enough
intelligence to make me believe you're fully possessed. You're just
making up for something missing in your life...and now we know who
that is.
.
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16 Jun 2004 07:32:21 PM |
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My faith is just getting to squeeze out of this
life
every
iota
of
information of Who God is...and what God wants
from
me.
I
do
not
want
to
waste a second.... I love my Creator....He is
the
most
wonderful
part of
my
existence....I don't care what anyone says....
He
is
awesome!!
Although you may not agree with me, I would
say
that
there is
nothing that is not God. This is how omnipotence,
omnipresence
and
omniscience are maintained.
in that case, i see nothing to argue against. it
does
however,
appear
to me
to render god meaningless. if this contradicts
omnipotence...i'm
not
sure
i'm not sure i can be bothered to think about it...
It doesn't contradict omnipotence, it defines it
as
being
able to
do all that is done. Not even God can do that which
cannot be
done,
although God can do many things that cannot be done by
man.
Omnipotence doesn't mean being able to make a
four-sided
triangle
or
other such logical nonsense; but being able to perform
and
actually
performing every single act that occurs.
fair enough. but what about the
meaninglessness, if
everything
that
occurs is god?
Pat and others like him make up a bunch of nonsense which
they
have
not
the
knowledge from their own expereinces yet insist they are
correct
and
which
cannot even be reasoned using the scriptures they
supposedly
believe
in.
we don't have your experience, bernie.
I don't think that Bernie even believes what he has
written
here.
You don't think? Yep, that about sums up your problem.
What a grand refutation.
The truth always is.
Yes, too bad you keep preventing yourself from enjoying it.
Sure, Samael, whatever you say!
Sometimes you surprise me. This isn't one of them. Why don't you
start calling me Bernard Cozier; that'll make 'em think.
Yer so jealous.
.
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| User: "Pat Harrington" |
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| Title: Re: It is better to be atheist |
17 Jun 2004 07:01:07 PM |
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My faith is just getting to squeeze out of this
life
every
iota
of
information of Who God is...and what God wants
from
me.
I
do
not
want
to
waste a second.... I love my Creator....He is
the
most
wonderful
part of
my
existence....I don't care what anyone says....
He
is
awesome!!
Although you may not agree with me, I would
say
that
there is
nothing that is not God. This is how omnipotence,
omnipresence
and
omniscience are maintained.
in that case, i see nothing to argue against. it
does
however,
appear
to me
to render god meaningless. if this contradicts
omnipotence...i'm
not
sure
i'm not sure i can be bothered to think about it...
It doesn't contradict omnipotence, it defines it
as
being
able to
do all that is done. Not even God can do that which
cannot be
done,
although God can do many things that cannot be done by
man.
Omnipotence doesn't mean being able to make a
four-sided
triangle
or
other such logical nonsense; but being able to perform
and
actually
performing every single act that occurs.
fair enough. but what about the
meaninglessness, if
everything
that
occurs is god?
Pat and others like him make up a bunch of nonsense which
they
have
not
the
knowledge from their own expereinces yet insist they are
correct
and
which
cannot even be reasoned using the scriptures they
supposedly
believe
in.
we don't have your experience, bernie.
I don't think that Bernie even believes what he has
written
here.
You don't think? Yep, that about sums up your problem.
What a grand refutation.
The truth always is.
Yes, too bad you keep preventing yourself from enjoying it.
Sure, Samael, whatever you say!
Sometimes you surprise me. This isn't one of them. Why don't you
start calling me Bernard Cozier; that'll make 'em think.
Yer so jealous.
Oh yeah, I've always wanted to be thought of as a totally
psychotic ***** with no clue and a vendetta against an entire people
based on hallucinations and delusions of grandeur. It's always been a
dream of mine; but I could never be as good as you at that. You do it
without even trying. Perhaps you've evolved into a new species: Homo
Scatacrania-Antisemitus.
.
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| User: "LionOfJudah" |
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| Title: Re: It is better to be atheist |
17 Jun 2004 07:54:58 PM |
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My faith is just getting to squeeze out of
this
life
every
iota
of
information of Who God is...and what God
wants
from
me.
I
do
not
want
to
waste a second.... I love my Creator....He
is
the
most
wonderful
part of
my
existence....I don't care what anyone
says....
He
is
awesome!!
Although you may not agree with me, I
would
say
that
there is
nothing that is not God. This is how
omnipotence,
omnipresence
and
omniscience are maintained.
in that case, i see nothing to argue against.
it
does
however,
appear
to me
to render god meaningless. if this contradicts
omnipotence...i'm
not
sure
i'm not sure i can be bothered to think about
it...
It doesn't contradict omnipotence, it defines
it
as
being
able to
do all that is done. Not even God can do that
which
cannot be
done,
although God can do many things that cannot be
done by
man.
Omnipotence doesn't mean being able to make a
four-sided
triangle
or
other such logical nonsense; but being able to
perform
and
actually
performing every single act that occurs.
fair enough. but what about the
meaninglessness, if
everything
that
occurs is god?
Pat and others like him make up a bunch of nonsense
which
they
have
not
the
knowledge from their own expereinces yet insist they
are
correct
and
which
cannot even be reasoned using the scriptures they
supposedly
believe
in.
we don't have your experience, bernie.
I don't think that Bernie even believes what he has
written
here.
You don't think? Yep, that about sums up your problem.
What a grand refutation.
The truth always is.
Yes, too bad you keep preventing yourself from enjoying it.
Sure, Samael, whatever you say!
Sometimes you surprise me. This isn't one of them. Why don't you
start calling me Bernard Cozier; that'll make 'em think.
Yer so jealous.
Oh yeah, I've always wanted to be thought of as a totally
psychotic ***** with no clue and a vendetta against an entire people
based on hallucinations and delusions of grandeur.
You call the scriptures of Judaism hallucinations and delusions of grandeur?
And I do not have a vendetta against people, I have a vendetta against
Judaism.
You nincompoop.
.
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| User: "Pat Harrington" |
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| Title: Re: It is better to be atheist |
18 Jun 2004 03:24:28 AM |
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