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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "LionOfJudah"
Date: 06 Jun 2004 12:40:25 PM
Object: It is better to be atheist
The people who believe in God are the most totally fucked up people on the
face of the earth.
I'll give you this one simple example.
Some mormons were speaking to this simple minded woman, not an atheist but
nevertheless she was not really that strongly into her religion. So I heard
them bullshitting her about the Jews being the specially chose people of God
and all that garbage so immediately I said let me show these fucking monkeys
what a load of bull thay really believe in.
So I approached them and my neighbour and said I have a problem maybe you
can help me understand it. I asked them to read Numbers:15:32 and they did :
Numbers:15:32: And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they
found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.
33: And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and
Aaron, and unto all the congregation.
34: And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be
done to him.
35: And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all
the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
36: And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him
with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses.
Now after they had read this, the woman who was not religious was shocked.
Her reaction was, "But why did they do that?!" And yet the learned
religious assholes didn't think anything of it at all, their response was,
"What's the problem? They executed someone for breaking the Sabbath."
So then I asked them, didn't Jesus say the Sabbath was created for man and
not man for the Sabbath? So how can God tell Moses to kill someone for not
keeping the Sabbath?
Then they started with their Old covenenant New covenant *****. So then
I told them, I don't care what the covenant was when Moses stoned that man
to death, I know that is murder. Killing someone for such a victimless
"crime" isn't moral. It's like giving the death penalty to someone for
littering. The punishment doesn't fit the crime. In the case of a litterer
you can make him pay a fine or do community service of cleaning up litter.
In the case of the Sabbath breaker they could have put him in prison and
denied him making wages for some length of time if they really think the
Sabbath should be kept.
But it is just plain evil and morally corrupt to stone someone to death for
the harmless act of gathering sticks on some Sabbath day, which in the very
height of hypocrisy they call a holy day! A day for which people are
murdered for doing harmless things like gathering sticks!
Anyway the point is, the unlearned non-nreligous woman did not accept that
it was justifiable that they killed the man despite being shown that it was
what "God" commanded Moses to do. But the learned religious ASSHOLES had no
problem at all with the execution of that man
Why? The answer is quite simple. From the time religious pepole hear the
word "God" they turn into total cunts. They can no longer reason. If it is
written that God said, "Kill your neighbours, your sons and your companions
and I will bestow upon you a great blessing," then that is what must be done
no questions asked! And that's exactly what happened in Exodus:26:32.
Now the woman was already suspicious of having anything to do with their
religion, so I made it even worse. I read them these verses :
Matthew:6:22: The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be
single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
23: But *if thine eye be evil*, *thy whole body shall be full of darkness*.
Exodus:20:21: And the people stood afar off, and Moses drew near unto the
thick darkness where God was.
2Chronicles:6:1: Then said Solomon, *The LORD hath said that he would dwell
in the thick darkness*.
John:14:3: And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and
receive you unto myself; that *where I am, there ye may be also*.
John:12:46: I am come a light into the world, that *whosoever believeth on
me should not abide in darkness*.
I told them straight to their face that I believe the God of the Old
Testament is the Devil and showed them more of the evil that God commited in
front of the woman, such as Exodus:26:32 and Numbers:21:5 where God sent
fiery serpents to kill the people of Israel after they asked why they were
being led into an evil place and God told Moses to make a serpent made of
brass which they had to worship if they wanted to live.
I told them Judaism is a Satanic religion and if they think Jews are the
specially chosen people of God I can never follow their prophet Jospeh
Smith.
Needless to say, the woman was interested in following them either she just
told them she's not into religion and that she believes in God and that she
knows God is love and not cruel.
Mormons are just another plague on the face of this earth spreading their
false ***** about a God who murders people for stupid ***** and then
calling it a holy day for which they are murdered.
Religious theists are dumb fucking moneys. They would kill without a thought
if they were led to beleive it's what God wanted them to do, just as all the
murder we read of in the Old Testament.
--
"The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent." Brad Rogers
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/h/Christ-Son-of-Buddha/TheWordOfGod_1.htm
.

User: "LionOfJudah"

Title: Re: It is better to be atheist 06 Jun 2004 12:44:54 PM
"LionOfJudah" <thepuppetmaster@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:LvIwc.23411$xt5.17764@bignews2.bellsouth.net...

The people who believe in God are the most totally fucked up people on the
face of the earth.

I'll give you this one simple example.

Some mormons were speaking to this simple minded woman, not an atheist but
nevertheless she was not really that strongly into her religion. So I

heard

them bullshitting her about the Jews being the specially chose people of

God

and all that garbage so immediately I said let me show these fucking

monkeys

what a load of bull thay really believe in.

So I approached them and my neighbour and said I have a problem maybe you
can help me understand it. I asked them to read Numbers:15:32 and they did

:


Numbers:15:32: And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness,

they

found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.
33: And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and
Aaron, and unto all the congregation.
34: And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be
done to him.
35: And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death:

all

the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
36: And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him
with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses.


Now after they had read this, the woman who was not religious was shocked.
Her reaction was, "But why did they do that?!" And yet the learned
religious assholes didn't think anything of it at all, their response was,
"What's the problem? They executed someone for breaking the Sabbath."

So then I asked them, didn't Jesus say the Sabbath was created for man

and

not man for the Sabbath? So how can God tell Moses to kill someone for not
keeping the Sabbath?

Then they started with their Old covenenant New covenant *****. So

then

I told them, I don't care what the covenant was when Moses stoned that man
to death, I know that is murder. Killing someone for such a victimless
"crime" isn't moral. It's like giving the death penalty to someone for
littering. The punishment doesn't fit the crime. In the case of a litterer
you can make him pay a fine or do community service of cleaning up litter.
In the case of the Sabbath breaker they could have put him in prison and
denied him making wages for some length of time if they really think the
Sabbath should be kept.

But it is just plain evil and morally corrupt to stone someone to death

for

the harmless act of gathering sticks on some Sabbath day, which in the

very

height of hypocrisy they call a holy day! A day for which people are
murdered for doing harmless things like gathering sticks!

Anyway the point is, the unlearned non-nreligous woman did not accept that
it was justifiable that they killed the man despite being shown that it

was

what "God" commanded Moses to do. But the learned religious ASSHOLES had

no

problem at all with the execution of that man

Why? The answer is quite simple. From the time religious pepole hear the
word "God" they turn into total cunts. They can no longer reason. If it is
written that God said, "Kill your neighbours, your sons and your

companions

and I will bestow upon you a great blessing," then that is what must be

done

no questions asked! And that's exactly what happened in Exodus:26:32.

Now the woman was already suspicious of having anything to do with their
religion, so I made it even worse. I read them these verses :

Matthew:6:22: The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be
single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
23: But *if thine eye be evil*, *thy whole body shall be full of

darkness*.


Exodus:20:21: And the people stood afar off, and Moses drew near unto the
thick darkness where God was.

2Chronicles:6:1: Then said Solomon, *The LORD hath said that he would

dwell

in the thick darkness*.

John:14:3: And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and
receive you unto myself; that *where I am, there ye may be also*.

John:12:46: I am come a light into the world, that *whosoever believeth on
me should not abide in darkness*.

I told them straight to their face that I believe the God of the Old
Testament is the Devil and showed them more of the evil that God commited

in

front of the woman, such as Exodus:26:32 and Numbers:21:5 where God sent
fiery serpents to kill the people of Israel after they asked why they were
being led into an evil place and God told Moses to make a serpent made of
brass which they had to worship if they wanted to live.

I told them Judaism is a Satanic religion and if they think Jews are the
specially chosen people of God I can never follow their prophet Jospeh
Smith.

Needless to say, the woman was

correction : wasn't

interested in following them either she just
told them she's not into religion and that she believes in God and that

she

knows God is love and not cruel.

Mormons are just another plague on the face of this earth spreading their
false ***** about a God who murders people for stupid ***** and then
calling it a holy day for which they are murdered.

Religious theists are dumb fucking moneys. They would kill without a

thought

if they were led to beleive it's what God wanted them to do, just as all

the

murder we read of in the Old Testament.

--
"The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent." Brad Rogers
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/h/Christ-Son-of-Buddha/TheWordOfGod_1.htm


.

User: "LionOfJudah"

Title: Re: It is better to be atheist 06 Jun 2004 02:53:42 PM
"LionOfJudah" <thepuppetmaster@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:LvIwc.23411$xt5.17764@bignews2.bellsouth.net...

The people who believe in God are the most totally fucked up people on the
face of the earth.

I'll give you this one simple example.

Some mormons were speaking to this simple minded woman, not an atheist but
nevertheless she was not really that strongly into her religion. So I

heard

them bullshitting her about the Jews being the specially chose people of

God

and all that garbage so immediately I said let me show these fucking

monkeys

what a load of bull thay really believe in.

So I approached them and my neighbour and said I have a problem maybe you
can help me understand it. I asked them to read Numbers:15:32 and they did

:


Numbers:15:32: And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness,

they

found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.
33: And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and
Aaron, and unto all the congregation.
34: And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be
done to him.
35: And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death:

all

the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
36: And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him
with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses.


Now after they had read this, the woman who was not religious was shocked.
Her reaction was, "But why did they do that?!" And yet the learned
religious assholes didn't think anything of it at all, their response was,
"What's the problem? They executed someone for breaking the Sabbath."

So then I asked them, didn't Jesus say the Sabbath was created for man

and

not man for the Sabbath? So how can God tell Moses to kill someone for not
keeping the Sabbath?

Then they started with their Old covenenant New covenant *****. So

then

I told them, I don't care what the covenant was when Moses stoned that man
to death, I know that is murder. Killing someone for such a victimless
"crime" isn't moral. It's like giving the death penalty to someone for
littering. The punishment doesn't fit the crime. In the case of a litterer
you can make him pay a fine or do community service of cleaning up litter.
In the case of the Sabbath breaker they could have put him in prison and
denied him making wages for some length of time if they really think the
Sabbath should be kept.

But it is just plain evil and morally corrupt to stone someone to death

for

the harmless act of gathering sticks on some Sabbath day, which in the

very

height of hypocrisy they call a holy day! A day for which people are
murdered for doing harmless things like gathering sticks!

Anyway the point is, the unlearned non-nreligous woman did not accept that
it was justifiable that they killed the man despite being shown that it

was

what "God" commanded Moses to do. But the learned religious ASSHOLES had

no

problem at all with the execution of that man

Why? The answer is quite simple. From the time religious pepole hear the
word "God" they turn into total cunts. They can no longer reason. If it is
written that God said, "Kill your neighbours, your sons and your

companions

and I will bestow upon you a great blessing," then that is what must be

done

no questions asked! And that's exactly what happened in Exodus:26:32.

Now the woman was already suspicious of having anything to do with their
religion, so I made it even worse. I read them these verses :

Matthew:6:22: The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be
single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
23: But *if thine eye be evil*, *thy whole body shall be full of

darkness*.


Exodus:20:21: And the people stood afar off, and Moses drew near unto the
thick darkness where God was.

2Chronicles:6:1: Then said Solomon, *The LORD hath said that he would

dwell

in the thick darkness*.

John:14:3: And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and
receive you unto myself; that *where I am, there ye may be also*.

John:12:46: I am come a light into the world, that *whosoever believeth on
me should not abide in darkness*.

I told them straight to their face that I believe the God of the Old
Testament is the Devil and showed them more of the evil that God commited

in

front of the woman, such as Exodus:26:32 and Numbers:21:5 where God sent
fiery serpents to kill the people of Israel after they asked why they were
being led into an evil place and God told Moses to make a serpent made of
brass which they had to worship if they wanted to live.

I told them Judaism is a Satanic religion and if they think Jews are the
specially chosen people of God I can never follow their prophet Jospeh
Smith.

Needless to say, the woman was interested in following them either she

just

told them she's not into religion and that she believes in God and that

she

knows God is love and not cruel.

Mormons are just another plague on the face of this earth spreading their
false ***** about a God who murders people for stupid ***** and then
calling it a holy day for which they are murdered.

Religious theists are dumb fucking moneys.

monkeys...interesting typo though, given the history :
Joshua:6:19: But all the silver, and gold, and vessels of brass and iron,
are consecrated unto the LORD: they shall come into the treasury of the
LORD.
Joshua:6:24: And they burnt the city with fire, and all that was therein:
only the silver, and the gold, and the vessels of brass and of iron, they
put into the treasury of the house of the LORD

They would kill without a thought
if they were led to beleive it's what God wanted them to do, just as all

the

murder we read of in the Old Testament.

--
"The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent." Brad Rogers
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/h/Christ-Son-of-Buddha/TheWordOfGod_1.htm


.

User: "MrPepper11"

Title: Re: It is better to be atheist 06 Jun 2004 04:13:38 PM
"LionOfJudah" <thepuppetmaster@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:<LvIwc.23411$xt5.17764@bignews2.bellsouth.net>...


So I approached them and my neighbour and said I have a problem maybe you
can help me understand it. I asked them to read Numbers:15:32 and they did :

Numbers:15:32: And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they
found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.
33: And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and
Aaron, and unto all the congregation.
34: And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be
done to him.
35: And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all
the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
36: And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him
with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses.


Now after they had read this, the woman who was not religious was shocked.
Her reaction was, "But why did they do that?!" And yet the learned
religious assholes didn't think anything of it at all, their response was,
"What's the problem? They executed someone for breaking the Sabbath."

What time zone was he in when he was gathering his sticks?
.
User: "LionOfJudah"

Title: Re: It is better to be atheist 06 Jun 2004 04:15:37 PM
"MrPepper11" <MrPepper11@go.com> wrote in message
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"LionOfJudah" <thepuppetmaster@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

news:<LvIwc.23411$xt5.17764@bignews2.bellsouth.net>...


So I approached them and my neighbour and said I have a problem maybe

you

can help me understand it. I asked them to read Numbers:15:32 and they

did :


Numbers:15:32: And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness,

they

found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.
33: And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and
Aaron, and unto all the congregation.
34: And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be
done to him.
35: And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death:

all

the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
36: And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned

him

with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses.


Now after they had read this, the woman who was not religious was

shocked.

Her reaction was, "But why did they do that?!" And yet the learned
religious assholes didn't think anything of it at all, their response

was,

"What's the problem? They executed someone for breaking the Sabbath."


What time zone was he in when he was gathering his sticks?

Apparently the wrong one :)
.


User: "Jens Vogel"

Title: Re: It is better to be atheist 06 Jun 2004 01:55:09 PM
LionOfJudah wrote:

Religious theists are dumb fucking moneys. They would kill without a thought
if they were led to beleive it's what God wanted them to do, just as all the
murder we read of in the Old Testament.

Reminds me of the conversation with a very dear colleague of mine at the
university. (The fact that we were very good friends made it extra
terrible.) She said that she would never love anything or anyone more
than god, for she was his child. So I asked her what she would do if she
had to decide between god and the lives of her children.
And she instantly said without hesitation that she would decide for god.
I had a pain in my stomach for the whole rest of that day.
Jens
.
User: "cupcake"

Title: Re: It is better to be atheist 06 Jun 2004 02:01:19 PM
Jens Vogel wrote:

LionOfJudah wrote:

Religious theists are dumb fucking moneys. They would kill without a thought
if they were led to beleive it's what God wanted them to do, just as all the
murder we read of in the Old Testament.


Reminds me of the conversation with a very dear colleague of mine at the
university. (The fact that we were very good friends made it extra
terrible.) She said that she would never love anything or anyone more
than god, for she was his child. So I asked her what she would do if she
had to decide between god and the lives of her children.

And she instantly said without hesitation that she would decide for god.

I had a pain in my stomach for the whole rest of that day.

i agree with you -- God has been the biggest trouble-maker
in the history of all Humanity -- especially since God doesn't
even exist, and THERE AIN'T NO GOD!

Jens

.
User: "LionOfJudah"

Title: Re: It is better to be atheist 06 Jun 2004 02:40:29 PM
"cupcake" <t@r.slrup> wrote in message
news:3SJwc.662$Ra.6040@news.more.net...


Jens Vogel wrote:

LionOfJudah wrote:

Religious theists are dumb fucking moneys. They would kill without a

thought

if they were led to beleive it's what God wanted them to do, just as

all the

murder we read of in the Old Testament.


Reminds me of the conversation with a very dear colleague of mine at the
university. (The fact that we were very good friends made it extra
terrible.) She said that she would never love anything or anyone more
than god, for she was his child. So I asked her what she would do if she
had to decide between god and the lives of her children.

And she instantly said without hesitation that she would decide for god.

I had a pain in my stomach for the whole rest of that day.



i agree with you -- God has been the biggest trouble-maker
in the history of all Humanity -- especially since God doesn't
even exist, and THERE AIN'T NO GOD!

Cupcake, you are the fucking man.
Let's use some logic :
(1) There is no God.
(2) Someone or something says "I am God" and orders people to kill for such
stupid ***** as a -- get this -- 'holy' day!
The conclusion :
That something or someone which calls itself "God" in is a liar and a
murderer using fear and intimidation to submit superstitious people to his
will and end up destroying each other (an eye for an eye) in his service.
Jesus isn't the Son of God, but the Son of man :
Matthew:26:63: But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest answered and
said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether
thou be the Christ, the Son of God.
64: Jesus saith unto him, *Thou hast said*: *nevertheless I say* unto you,
Hereafter shall ye see the *Son of man* sitting on the right hand of power,
and coming in the clouds of heaven.
Luke:22:70: Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said
unto them, Ye say that I am.
How unfortunate that Jesus could not entirely avoid using that word "God"
because his primary audience the deceived Jews would have never listened to
a single word he said had he ever told them "God" doesn't exist. Jesus was
just a human being, just as the Buddha. Sure, his faculty of wisdom is
greater than the majority of people, but he's still only a human being.
--
"The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent." Brad Rogers
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/h/Christ-Son-of-Buddha/TheWordOfGod_1.htm
.
User: "Roy Jose Lorr"

Title: Re: It is better to be atheist 07 Jun 2004 06:34:11 PM
LionOfJudah wrote:


Let's use some logic :

(1) There is no God.

(2) Someone or something says "I am God" and orders people to kill for such
stupid ***** as a -- get this -- 'holy' day!

The conclusion :

That something or someone which calls itself "God" in is a liar and a
murderer using fear and intimidation to submit superstitious people to his
will and end up destroying each other (an eye for an eye) in his service.

If you believe there is no God, why do you blame Him? Are you insane?
--
The last stage of
utopian sentimentalism
is homicidal mania.
.
User: "cupcake"

Title: Re: It is better to be atheist 07 Jun 2004 06:39:47 PM
Roy Jose Lorr wrote:

LionOfJudah wrote:


Let's use some logic :

(1) There is no God.

(2) Someone or something says "I am God" and orders people to kill for such
stupid ***** as a -- get this -- 'holy' day!

The conclusion :

That something or someone which calls itself "God" in is a liar and a
murderer using fear and intimidation to submit superstitious people to his
will and end up destroying each other (an eye for an eye) in his service.


If you believe there is no God, why do you blame Him? Are you insane?

Bernie believes in "God", but, he juzt believes in some
"other" "God" -- what Bernie doesn't understand
is that THERE AIN'T NO FUCKING GOD!

--

.
User: "LionOfJudah"

Title: Re: It is better to be atheist 07 Jun 2004 09:08:52 PM
"cupcake" <t@r.slrup> wrote in message
news:717xc.689$Ra.5483@news.more.net...


Roy Jose Lorr wrote:

LionOfJudah wrote:


Let's use some logic :

(1) There is no God.

(2) Someone or something says "I am God" and orders people to kill for

such

stupid ***** as a -- get this -- 'holy' day!

The conclusion :

That something or someone which calls itself "God" in is a liar and a
murderer using fear and intimidation to submit superstitious people to

his

will and end up destroying each other (an eye for an eye) in his

service.


If you believe there is no God, why do you blame Him? Are you insane?


Bernie believes in "God", but, he juzt believes in some
"other" "God" -- what Bernie doesn't understand
is that THERE AIN'T NO FUCKING GOD!

Correct, but there is a Highest whom I see no real problem in refering to as
God. As long as one understands the true nature of Highest is charity and
not cruelty.

--

.

User: "Roy Jose Lorr"

Title: Re: It is better to be atheist 07 Jun 2004 07:49:49 PM
cupcake wrote:

Roy Jose Lorr wrote:

LionOfJudah wrote:


Let's use some logic :

(1) There is no God.

(2) Someone or something says "I am God" and orders people to kill for such
stupid ***** as a -- get this -- 'holy' day!

The conclusion :

That something or someone which calls itself "God" in is a liar and a
murderer using fear and intimidation to submit superstitious people to his
will and end up destroying each other (an eye for an eye) in his service.


If you believe there is no God, why do you blame Him? Are you insane?


Bernie believes in "God", but, he juzt believes in some
"other" "God" -- what Bernie doesn't understand
is that THERE AIN'T NO FUCKING GOD!

Very well, you admit to being insane. I accept that.
--
The last stage of
utopian sentimentalism
is homicidal mania.
.
User: "Chan Fu"

Title: Re: It is better to be atheist 07 Jun 2004 07:48:34 PM
Roy Jose Lorr wrote:


cupcake wrote:


Roy Jose Lorr wrote:


LionOfJudah wrote:


Let's use some logic :

(1) There is no God.

(2) Someone or something says "I am God" and orders people to kill for such
stupid ***** as a -- get this -- 'holy' day!

The conclusion :

That something or someone which calls itself "God" in is a liar and a
murderer using fear and intimidation to submit superstitious people to his
will and end up destroying each other (an eye for an eye) in his service.


If you believe there is no God, why do you blame Him? Are you insane?


Bernie believes in "God", but, he juzt believes in some
"other" "God" -- what Bernie doesn't understand
is that THERE AIN'T NO FUCKING GOD!



Very well, you admit to being insane. I accept that.

and you don't.
so what's the difference there?
(hint: it's a rhetorical question)
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User: "Boddhisattva"

Title: Re: It is better to be atheist 08 Jun 2004 02:25:02 AM
"Ch'an Fu" <ChanFu@mailvault.com> wrote in message
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Roy Jose Lorr wrote:


cupcake wrote:


Roy Jose Lorr wrote:


LionOfJudah wrote:


Let's use some logic :

(1) There is no God.

(2) Someone or something says "I am God" and orders people to kill for

such

stupid ***** as a -- get this -- 'holy' day!

The conclusion :

That something or someone which calls itself "God" in is a liar and a
murderer using fear and intimidation to submit superstitious people to

his

will and end up destroying each other (an eye for an eye) in his

service.


If you believe there is no God, why do you blame Him? Are you insane?


Bernie believes in "God", but, he juzt believes in some
"other" "God" -- what Bernie doesn't understand
is that THERE AIN'T NO FUCKING GOD!



Very well, you admit to being insane. I accept that.


and you don't.
so what's the difference there?
(hint: it's a rhetorical question)

So you want a rhetorical answer ?
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User: "Mary Hogan"

Title: Re: It is better to be atheist 07 Jun 2004 06:45:07 PM
Does the pianist blame the piano?
Does the gymnast blame the balance beam?
It is all about perfection. The person who focuses totally on
themselves...will never be the pianist. The Pianist knows pain...and
challenge.
God has designed a beautiful puzzle....atheists just want to chop off all
the nubs....and get everything the easy way. Unfortunately, you get nothing
this way but dead....and I have studied the Torah....wouldn't want to be
you!!
"Roy Jose Lorr" <mosestorah@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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LionOfJudah wrote:


Let's use some logic :

(1) There is no God.

(2) Someone or something says "I am God" and orders people to kill for

such

stupid ***** as a -- get this -- 'holy' day!

The conclusion :

That something or someone which calls itself "God" in is a liar and a
murderer using fear and intimidation to submit superstitious people to

his

will and end up destroying each other (an eye for an eye) in his

service.


If you believe there is no God, why do you blame Him? Are you insane?
--

The last stage of
utopian sentimentalism
is homicidal mania.


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User: "Jez"

Title: Re: It is better to be atheist 09 Jun 2004 06:50:02 AM
"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
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Does the pianist blame the piano?

Depends, might be badly out of tune.

Does the gymnast blame the balance beam?

If it breaks ?


It is all about perfection. The person who focuses totally on
themselves...will never be the pianist. The Pianist knows pain...and
challenge.

God has designed a beautiful puzzle....

Where ?

atheists just want to chop off all
the nubs....and get everything the easy way.

How so ?

Unfortunately, you get nothing
this way but dead....

'Dead' is where we're ALL going !

and I have studied the Torah....wouldn't want to be
you!!

Your not, and never will be !
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: It is better to be atheist 08 Jun 2004 08:31:35 AM
In article <40c4fe69_2@corp.newsgroups.com>, Mary Hogan says...
snip

It is all about perfection. The person who focuses totally on
themselves...will never be the pianist. The Pianist knows pain...and
challenge.

God has designed a beautiful puzzle....atheists just want to chop off all
the nubs....and get everything the easy way. Unfortunately, you get nothing
this way but dead....and I have studied the Torah....wouldn't want to be
you!!

I wouldn't want to be you either, deary. I like being sane.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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User: "Chan Fu"

Title: Re: It is better to be atheist 07 Jun 2004 06:43:28 PM
Mary Hogan wrote:

Does the pianist blame the piano?
Does the gymnast blame the balance beam?

It is all about perfection. The person who focuses totally on
themselves...will never be the pianist. The Pianist knows pain...and
challenge.

God has designed a beautiful puzzle....atheists just want to chop off all
the nubs....and get everything the easy way. Unfortunately, you get nothing
this way but dead....and I have studied the Torah....wouldn't want to be
you!!

o fer chrissake, jen...
"studied the torah"
just go nuts and be done with it.
oops! my bad! :p
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User: "Mary Hogan"

Title: Boy, atheist really choke 07 Jun 2004 07:02:02 PM
When faced with the Truth, they act like gorillas. Why am I not surprised?
"Ch'an Fu" <ChanFu@mailvault.com> wrote in message
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Mary Hogan wrote:

Does the pianist blame the piano?
Does the gymnast blame the balance beam?

It is all about perfection. The person who focuses totally on
themselves...will never be the pianist. The Pianist knows pain...and
challenge.

God has designed a beautiful puzzle....atheists just want to chop off

all

the nubs....and get everything the easy way. Unfortunately, you get

nothing

this way but dead....and I have studied the Torah....wouldn't want to be
you!!


o fer chrissake, jen...
"studied the torah"
just go nuts and be done with it.
oops! my bad! :p

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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Boy, atheist really choke 08 Jun 2004 08:29:24 AM
In article <40c5025f$1_2@corp.newsgroups.com>, Mary Hogan says...


When faced with the Truth, they act like gorillas. Why am I not surprised?

Gorillas are actually very intelligent, gentle creatures.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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User: "Chan Fu"

Title: Re: Boy, atheist really choke 07 Jun 2004 07:08:45 PM
Mary Hogan wrote:

When faced with the Truth, they act like gorillas. Why am I not surprised?

because your patterns show up like xmas tree lights, mebbe?
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User: "Mary Hogan"

Title: Re: Boy, atheist really choke 07 Jun 2004 07:18:55 PM
Here's one for you and Pegasus: I think you are the only two in the world
that will understand...so keep it between us...ok...here goes.
The glick flew just point barker-notch, l Lien towards the schilt wilt me
peddaf, boerung boerung, boeroo...
Got that....good... I think this is the only thing that will change your
lives....
"Ch'an Fu" <ChanFu@mailvault.com> wrote in message
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Mary Hogan wrote:

When faced with the Truth, they act like gorillas. Why am I not

surprised?


because your patterns show up like xmas tree lights, mebbe?

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User: "Chan Fu"

Title: Re: Boy, atheist really choke 07 Jun 2004 07:15:51 PM
Mary Hogan wrote:

Here's one for you and Pegasus: I think you are the only two in the world
that will understand...so keep it between us...ok...here goes.

The glick flew just point barker-notch, l Lien towards the schilt wilt me
peddaf, boerung boerung, boeroo...

Got that....good... I think this is the only thing that will change your
lives....

thanks, but you don't really have to worry about that, jennie :)
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User: "Earl Camembert"

Title: Re: Boy, atheist really choke 08 Jun 2004 12:03:27 AM
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 20:02:02 -0400, "Mary Hogan"
<hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:

When faced with the Truth, they act like gorillas. Why am I not surprised?

You have us confused with Negros.

"Ch'an Fu" <ChanFu@mailvault.com> wrote in message
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Mary Hogan wrote:

Does the pianist blame the piano?
Does the gymnast blame the balance beam?

It is all about perfection. The person who focuses totally on
themselves...will never be the pianist. The Pianist knows pain...and
challenge.

God has designed a beautiful puzzle....atheists just want to chop off

all

the nubs....and get everything the easy way. Unfortunately, you get

nothing

this way but dead....and I have studied the Torah....wouldn't want to be
you!!


o fer chrissake, jen...
"studied the torah"
just go nuts and be done with it.
oops! my bad! :p





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User: "Pegasus"

Title: Re: Boy, atheist really choke 07 Jun 2004 07:10:24 PM
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 20:02:02 -0400, "Mary Hogan"
<hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:

When faced with the Truth, they act like gorillas. Why am I not surprised?

Beats emulating epileptic seizures any day.
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User: "Chan Fu"

Title: Re: Boy, atheist really choke 07 Jun 2004 07:10:13 PM
Pegasus wrote:

On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 20:02:02 -0400, "Mary Hogan"
<hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:

When faced with the Truth, they act like gorillas. Why am I not surprised?


Beats emulating epileptic seizures any day.

jen's ok
she just needs a little work...
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User: "Tak"

Title: Re: Boy, atheist really choke 08 Jun 2004 02:36:57 AM
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 20:02:02 -0400, "Mary Hogan"
<hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:

When faced with the Truth, they act like gorillas. Why am I not surprised?

talk.religion.buddhism,alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.atheism,soc.culture.jewish
why am I not supprised?
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User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: Boy, atheist really choke 08 Jun 2004 11:01:30 PM
One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach Mary Hogan:

When faced with the Truth, they act like gorillas. Why am I not
surprised?

Probably because you people only act civil when lied to.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
______________
It's my funeral and I'll fry if I want to...
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User: "Roy Jose Lorr"

Title: Re: It is better to be atheist 07 Jun 2004 08:01:23 PM
Mary Hogan wrote:

Does the pianist blame the piano?
Does the gymnast blame the balance beam?

It is all about perfection. The person who focuses totally on
themselves...will never be the pianist. The Pianist knows pain...and
challenge.

True but its not abnormal for humans to place blame on
something other than themselves. The mental lapse
comes when they try to blame something they believe
doesn't exist.



God has designed a beautiful puzzle....atheists just want to chop off all
the nubs....and get everything the easy way. Unfortunately, you get nothing
this way but dead....and I have studied the Torah....wouldn't want to be
you!!

I'm not sure I understand this part about 'you not wanting
to be me'... I find the study of Written Torah a most
pleasurable activity.
--
The last stage of
utopian sentimentalism
is homicidal mania.
.




User: "Riain Barton"

Title: Re: It is better to be atheist 06 Jun 2004 02:45:20 PM
What a bunch of fucking idiots!
G-d has not caused the problems nor has G-d been a trouble-maker!!!!!!!!!
It is humans misconceptions of G-d that end up creating problems and hate!!!
"cupcake" <t@r.slrup> wrote in message
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|
| Jens Vogel wrote:
|
| >LionOfJudah wrote:
| >
| >> Religious theists are dumb fucking moneys. They would kill without a
thought
| >> if they were led to beleive it's what God wanted them to do, just as
all the
| >> murder we read of in the Old Testament.
| >
| >Reminds me of the conversation with a very dear colleague of mine at the
| >university. (The fact that we were very good friends made it extra
| >terrible.) She said that she would never love anything or anyone more
| >than god, for she was his child. So I asked her what she would do if she
| >had to decide between god and the lives of her children.
| >
| >And she instantly said without hesitation that she would decide for god.
| >
| >I had a pain in my stomach for the whole rest of that day.
| >
|
|
| i agree with you -- God has been the biggest trouble-maker
| in the history of all Humanity -- especially since God doesn't
| even exist, and THERE AIN'T NO GOD!
|
|
|
| > Jens
| >
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User: "LionOfJudah"

Title: Re: It is better to be atheist 06 Jun 2004 02:55:30 PM
"Riain Barton" <riain@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
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What a bunch of fucking idiots!

G-d has not caused the problems nor has G-d been a trouble-maker!!!!!!!!!

It is humans misconceptions of G-d that end up creating problems and

hate!!!
I would only accept that argument if you are saying the Torah is a lie.
Because what we read in the Torah is God commanding Moses and his other
prophets to kill people for a bunch of stupid silly ***** *****.

"cupcake" <t@r.slrup> wrote in message
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|
| Jens Vogel wrote:
|
| >LionOfJudah wrote:
| >
| >> Religious theists are dumb fucking moneys. They would kill without a
thought
| >> if they were led to beleive it's what God wanted them to do, just as
all the
| >> murder we read of in the Old Testament.
| >
| >Reminds me of the conversation with a very dear colleague of mine at

the

| >university. (The fact that we were very good friends made it extra
| >terrible.) She said that she would never love anything or anyone more
| >than god, for she was his child. So I asked her what she would do if

she

| >had to decide between god and the lives of her children.
| >
| >And she instantly said without hesitation that she would decide for

god.

| >
| >I had a pain in my stomach for the whole rest of that day.
| >
|
|
| i agree with you -- God has been the biggest trouble-maker
| in the history of all Humanity -- especially since God doesn't
| even exist, and THERE AIN'T NO GOD!
|
|
|
| > Jens
| >

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