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"Enkidu the Atheist" |
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12 Nov 2005 09:38:42 PM |
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Italy seeks extradition of 22 U.S. citizens |
Italy seeks extradition of 22 U.S. citizens
Washington Post
Saturday, November 12, 2005
Italian prosecutors made a formal request Friday for the extradition of
22 U.S. citizens believed to be CIA operatives on charges that they
seized an Egyptian Islamic cleric off a Milan street in early 2003 and
flew him to Cairo, where he later said he had been tortured.
The prosecutors' decision puts more pressure on U.S. officials to explain
the Bush administration's alleged role in the abduction of Hassan Mustafa
Osama Nasr, also known as Abu Omar. Italy and the United States have an
extradition treaty that generally requires both countries to hand over
defendants facing charges, although there are exceptions.
The prosecutors' extradition request is now before Italian Justice
Minister Roberto Castelli, who has not said whether he will forward it to
U.S. officials.
Arrest warrants previously approved by a judge in Milan allege that 22
covert operatives from the CIA violated Italian sovereignty by kidnapping
Nasr, who had been granted political asylum in Italy, and secretly flying
him to Egypt.
According to the arrest warrants, the CIA handed over Nasr to Egyptian
security officials in Cairo. Italian anti-terrorism police suspected Nasr
of involvement in terrorist networks that were recruiting fighters to go
to Iraq and had placed him under surveillance several months earlier.
They have said they were mystified by his disappearance until May 2004,
when he was briefly released from prison in Egypt and telephoned his wife
and others in Milan and told them he had been abducted to Egypt and
tortured in custody there.
Four CIA veterans have told the Washington Post that the CIA station
chief in Rome briefed the Italian intelligence service on the operation
before it was carried out and obtained approval for it.
Under the U.S.-Italian extradition treaty, the U.S. government is obliged
to hand over defendants in most cases.
Italian prosecutors have argued that even if some of the suspects were
registered as diplomats, they were not entitled to legal immunity on
kidnapping charges.
If the Italian Justice Ministry does approve the extradition requests,
the matter would be referred to the U.S. federal courts. American
officials then would be required to file a response, either agreeing to
hand over the suspects or explaining why not.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past
one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater
purity, the less they are mixed together.
-- James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822
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| User: "J Young" |
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| Title: Re: Italy seeks extradition of 22 U.S. citizens |
12 Nov 2005 10:20:33 PM |
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"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:Xns970CC7DB0C82F255229@130.133.1.4...
Italy seeks extradition of 22 U.S. citizens
Washington Post
Saturday, November 12, 2005
Italian prosecutors made a formal request Friday for the extradition of
22 U.S. citizens believed to be CIA operatives on charges that they
seized an Egyptian Islamic cleric off a Milan street in early 2003 and
flew him to Cairo, where he later said he had been tortured.
The prosecutors' decision puts more pressure on U.S. officials to explain
the Bush administration's alleged role in the abduction of Hassan Mustafa
Osama Nasr, also known as Abu Omar. Italy and the United States have an
extradition treaty that generally requires both countries to hand over
defendants facing charges, although there are exceptions.
The prosecutors' extradition request is now before Italian Justice
Minister Roberto Castelli, who has not said whether he will forward it to
U.S. officials.
Arrest warrants previously approved by a judge in Milan allege that 22
covert operatives from the CIA violated Italian sovereignty by kidnapping
Nasr, who had been granted political asylum in Italy, and secretly flying
him to Egypt.
According to the arrest warrants, the CIA handed over Nasr to Egyptian
security officials in Cairo. Italian anti-terrorism police suspected Nasr
of involvement in terrorist networks that were recruiting fighters to go
to Iraq and had placed him under surveillance several months earlier.
They have said they were mystified by his disappearance until May 2004,
when he was briefly released from prison in Egypt and telephoned his wife
and others in Milan and told them he had been abducted to Egypt and
tortured in custody there.
Four CIA veterans have told the Washington Post that the CIA station
chief in Rome briefed the Italian intelligence service on the operation
before it was carried out and obtained approval for it.
Under the U.S.-Italian extradition treaty, the U.S. government is obliged
to hand over defendants in most cases.
Italian prosecutors have argued that even if some of the suspects were
registered as diplomats, they were not entitled to legal immunity on
kidnapping charges.
If the Italian Justice Ministry does approve the extradition requests,
the matter would be referred to the U.S. federal courts. American
officials then would be required to file a response, either agreeing to
hand over the suspects or explaining why not.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past
one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater
purity, the less they are mixed together.
-- James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822
The American government should tell the Italian government to kiss our *****.
Why was this parasite Nasr permitted to walk a free man in Italy in the
first place?
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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| Title: Re: Italy seeks extradition of 22 U.S. citizens |
12 Nov 2005 10:28:31 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
news:e-CdnQu4OPYIIuvenZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@giganews.com:
The American government should tell the Italian government to kiss our
*****. Why was this parasite Nasr permitted to walk a free man in Italy
in the first place?
I guess the Italians think they represent the Italian people, and they
answer to them, not you. I know it sounds stupid, but that's how they
feel.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
"There is joy in rationality, happiness in clarity of mind. Free thought is
thrilling and fulfilling--absolutely essential to mental health and
happiness."
-Dan Barker
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Italy seeks extradition of 22 U.S. citizens |
13 Nov 2005 06:08:16 AM |
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On 13 Nov 2005 04:28:31 GMT, Enkidu the Atheist <enkidu@leaddogs.org>
wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
news:e-CdnQu4OPYIIuvenZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@giganews.com:
The American government should tell the Italian government to kiss our
*****. Why was this parasite Nasr permitted to walk a free man in Italy
in the first place?
I guess the Italians think they represent the Italian people, and they
answer to them, not you. I know it sounds stupid, but that's how they
feel.
Yeah, it's called "democracy" isn't it?
It's been so long since the USA has had any, that the poor mindless
automatons have forgotten what it is.
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| User: "Colin Day" |
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| Title: Re: Italy seeks extradition of 22 U.S. citizens |
13 Nov 2005 12:57:27 PM |
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J Young wrote:
"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:Xns970CC7DB0C82F255229@130.133.1.4...
Italy seeks extradition of 22 U.S. citizens
Washington Post
Saturday, November 12, 2005
Italian prosecutors made a formal request Friday for the extradition of
22 U.S. citizens believed to be CIA operatives on charges that they
seized an Egyptian Islamic cleric off a Milan street in early 2003 and
flew him to Cairo, where he later said he had been tortured.
The prosecutors' decision puts more pressure on U.S. officials to explain
the Bush administration's alleged role in the abduction of Hassan Mustafa
Osama Nasr, also known as Abu Omar. Italy and the United States have an
extradition treaty that generally requires both countries to hand over
defendants facing charges, although there are exceptions.
The prosecutors' extradition request is now before Italian Justice
Minister Roberto Castelli, who has not said whether he will forward it to
U.S. officials.
Arrest warrants previously approved by a judge in Milan allege that 22
covert operatives from the CIA violated Italian sovereignty by kidnapping
Nasr, who had been granted political asylum in Italy, and secretly flying
him to Egypt.
According to the arrest warrants, the CIA handed over Nasr to Egyptian
security officials in Cairo. Italian anti-terrorism police suspected Nasr
of involvement in terrorist networks that were recruiting fighters to go
to Iraq and had placed him under surveillance several months earlier.
They have said they were mystified by his disappearance until May 2004,
when he was briefly released from prison in Egypt and telephoned his wife
and others in Milan and told them he had been abducted to Egypt and
tortured in custody there.
Four CIA veterans have told the Washington Post that the CIA station
chief in Rome briefed the Italian intelligence service on the operation
before it was carried out and obtained approval for it.
Under the U.S.-Italian extradition treaty, the U.S. government is obliged
to hand over defendants in most cases.
Italian prosecutors have argued that even if some of the suspects were
registered as diplomats, they were not entitled to legal immunity on
kidnapping charges.
If the Italian Justice Ministry does approve the extradition requests,
the matter would be referred to the U.S. federal courts. American
officials then would be required to file a response, either agreeing to
hand over the suspects or explaining why not.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past
one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater
purity, the less they are mixed together.
-- James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822
The American government should tell the Italian government to kiss our *****.
Why was this parasite Nasr permitted to walk a free man in Italy in the
first place?
And why should any rational being give a rat's ***** about your opinion,
troll boy?
Colin Day aa #1500
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