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Religions > Atheism |
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"Cary Kittrell" |
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06 Oct 2006 05:00:33 PM |
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It's time to play ... "Name That Nutcase"! |
According to foxnews.com, the following quote:
"Those Amish people, everyone is sitting around talking about those poor
little girls -- blah, blah, blah -- they brought the wrath upon themselves,
...[the Amish] don't serve God, the serve themselves"
was uttered by
A) Ann Coulter
B) Shirley Phelps-("rhymes with Fred")-Roper
-- see http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217760,00.html
That was the preliminary question. The main question is:
Did you have trouble deciding?
-- cary
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| User: "Stan de SD" |
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| Title: Re: It's time to play ... "Name That Nutcase"! |
06 Oct 2006 06:45:06 PM |
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"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:eg623h$ocs$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
According to foxnews.com, the following quote:
"Those Amish people, everyone is sitting around talking about those
poor
little girls -- blah, blah, blah -- they brought the wrath upon
themselves,
...[the Amish] don't serve God, the serve themselves"
was uttered by
A) Ann Coulter
B) Shirley Phelps-("rhymes with Fred")-Roper
-- see
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217760,00.html
That was the preliminary question. The main question is:
Did you have trouble deciding?
Not at all - I'm not a mindless doctrinaire liberal like you are...
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: It's time to play ... "Name That Nutcase"! |
06 Oct 2006 08:12:45 PM |
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On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 11:45:06 -0700, Stan de SD wrote:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:eg623h$ocs$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
According to foxnews.com, the following quote:
"Those Amish people, everyone is sitting around talking about those
poor
little girls -- blah, blah, blah -- they brought the wrath upon
themselves,
...[the Amish] don't serve God, the serve themselves"
was uttered by
A) Ann Coulter
B) Shirley Phelps-("rhymes with Fred")-Roper
-- see
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217760,00.html
That was the preliminary question. The main question is:
Did you have trouble deciding?
Not at all - I'm not a mindless doctrinaire liberal like you are...
So you think it was Ann Coulter eh?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Stan de SD" |
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| Title: Re: It's time to play ... "Name That Nutcase"! |
07 Oct 2006 06:52:15 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:kOidnTzNt4IgJbvYnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 11:45:06 -0700, Stan de SD wrote:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:eg623h$ocs$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
According to foxnews.com, the following quote:
"Those Amish people, everyone is sitting around talking about those
poor
little girls -- blah, blah, blah -- they brought the wrath upon
themselves,
...[the Amish] don't serve God, the serve themselves"
was uttered by
A) Ann Coulter
B) Shirley Phelps-("rhymes with Fred")-Roper
-- see
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217760,00.html
That was the preliminary question. The main question is:
Did you have trouble deciding?
Not at all - I'm not a mindless doctrinaire liberal like you are...
So you think it was Ann Coulter eh?
No.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: It's time to play ... "Name That Nutcase"! |
10 Oct 2006 02:10:35 AM |
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On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 15:12:45 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 11:45:06 -0700, Stan de SD wrote:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:eg623h$ocs$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
According to foxnews.com, the following quote:
"Those Amish people, everyone is sitting around talking about those
poor
little girls -- blah, blah, blah -- they brought the wrath upon
themselves,
...[the Amish] don't serve God, the serve themselves"
was uttered by
A) Ann Coulter
B) Shirley Phelps-("rhymes with Fred")-Roper
-- see
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217760,00.html
That was the preliminary question. The main question is:
Did you have trouble deciding?
Not at all - I'm not a mindless doctrinaire liberal like you are...
So you think it was Ann Coulter eh?
Stan? THINK? <snicker>
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: It's time to play ... "Name That Nutcase"! |
10 Oct 2006 02:09:51 AM |
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On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 11:45:06 -0700, "Stan de SD"
<standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@covad.net> wrote in alt.atheism
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:eg623h$ocs$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
According to foxnews.com, the following quote:
"Those Amish people, everyone is sitting around talking about those
poor
little girls -- blah, blah, blah -- they brought the wrath upon
themselves,
...[the Amish] don't serve God, the serve themselves"
was uttered by
A) Ann Coulter
B) Shirley Phelps-("rhymes with Fred")-Roper
-- see
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217760,00.html
That was the preliminary question. The main question is:
Did you have trouble deciding?
Not at all - I'm not a mindless doctrinaire liberal like you are...
You're simply a cowardly mindless projectionist. Got it.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: It's time to play ... "Name That Nutcase"! |
06 Oct 2006 10:09:39 PM |
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On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 11:45:06 -0700, "Stan de SD"
<standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@covad.net> wrote:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:eg623h$ocs$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
According to foxnews.com, the following quote:
"Those Amish people, everyone is sitting around talking about those
poor
little girls -- blah, blah, blah -- they brought the wrath upon
themselves,
...[the Amish] don't serve God, the serve themselves"
was uttered by
A) Ann Coulter
B) Shirley Phelps-("rhymes with Fred")-Roper
-- see
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217760,00.html
That was the preliminary question. The main question is:
Did you have trouble deciding?
Not at all - I'm not a mindless doctrinaire liberal like you are...
It's fairly obvious you're not a liberal. However, there's nothing in
your post that could be interpreted as supporting the claim that
you're not mindless.
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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| Title: Re: It's time to play ... "Name That Nutcase"! |
06 Oct 2006 09:14:22 PM |
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(Cary Kittrell) wrote in
news:eg623h$ocs$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu:
According to foxnews.com, the following quote:
"Those Amish people, everyone is sitting around talking about
those poor little girls -- blah, blah, blah -- they brought the
wrath upon
themselves, ...[the Amish] don't serve God, they serve
themselves"
was uttered by
A) Ann Coulter
B) Shirley Phelps-("rhymes with Fred")-Roper
-- see http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217760,00.html
That was the preliminary question. The main question is:
Did you have trouble deciding?
Just a note: I placed the link on the Baptist ng and "dared" them to
justify the comments. I got some six replies, all repudiating the
group. Not a big number of responses....but better than none.
Pangur - nonchristian theist
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: It's time to play ... "Name That Nutcase"! |
06 Oct 2006 10:10:54 PM |
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In article <Xns98549B109F475PangurBan.worldnetat@63.218.45.20> Pangur Ban <Pangur-Ban$@worldnet.att.net> writes:
cary@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote in
news:eg623h$ocs$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu:
According to foxnews.com, the following quote:
"Those Amish people, everyone is sitting around talking about
those poor little girls -- blah, blah, blah -- they brought the
wrath upon
themselves, ...[the Amish] don't serve God, they serve
themselves"
was uttered by
A) Ann Coulter
B) Shirley Phelps-("rhymes with Fred")-Roper
-- see http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217760,00.html
That was the preliminary question. The main question is:
Did you have trouble deciding?
Just a note: I placed the link on the Baptist ng and "dared" them to
justify the comments. I got some six replies, all repudiating the
group. Not a big number of responses....but better than none.
Pangur - nonchristian theist
Oh, I don't think the Phelpsians are a religous group at all, let
alone a Baptist group. They're outrage junkies, pure and simple.
And as with all addictions, the required dosage escalates with
time. You pretty much have to declare "God hates bunny rabbits",
and then get that out to the media, else people will stop hating you
sufficiently: yeah, yeah, but what have you done to me lately?
-- cary
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: It's time to play ... "Name That Nutcase"! |
06 Oct 2006 10:13:05 PM |
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In article <eg6k9e$acs$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu> (Cary Kittrell) writes:
In article <Xns98549B109F475PangurBan.worldnetat@63.218.45.20> Pangur Ban <Pangur-Ban$@worldnet.att.net> writes:
(Cary Kittrell) wrote in
news:eg623h$ocs$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu:
According to foxnews.com, the following quote:
"Those Amish people, everyone is sitting around talking about
those poor little girls -- blah, blah, blah -- they brought the
wrath upon
themselves, ...[the Amish] don't serve God, they serve
themselves"
was uttered by
A) Ann Coulter
B) Shirley Phelps-("rhymes with Fred")-Roper
-- see http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217760,00.html
That was the preliminary question. The main question is:
Did you have trouble deciding?
Just a note: I placed the link on the Baptist ng and "dared" them to
justify the comments. I got some six replies, all repudiating the
group. Not a big number of responses....but better than none.
Pangur - nonchristian theist
Oh, I don't think the Phelpsians are a religous group at all, let
alone a Baptist group. They're outrage junkies, pure and simple.
And as with all addictions, the required dosage escalates with
time. You pretty much have to declare "God hates bunny rabbits",
and then get that out to the media, else people will stop hating you
sufficiently: yeah, yeah, but what have you done to me lately?
I had meant to bring it full circle there: Coulter, clearly, is
an outrage junkie as well. Which accounts for the reckless
hyperbole from each.
-- cary
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: It's time to play ... "Name That Nutcase"! |
07 Oct 2006 03:17:29 AM |
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On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 22:13:05 +0000, Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <eg6k9e$acs$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu> (Cary Kittrell) writes:
In article <Xns98549B109F475PangurBan.worldnetat@63.218.45.20> Pangur Ban <Pangur-Ban$@worldnet.att.net> writes:
(Cary Kittrell) wrote in
news:eg623h$ocs$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu:
According to foxnews.com, the following quote:
"Those Amish people, everyone is sitting around talking about
those poor little girls -- blah, blah, blah -- they brought the
wrath upon
themselves, ...[the Amish] don't serve God, they serve
themselves"
was uttered by
A) Ann Coulter
B) Shirley Phelps-("rhymes with Fred")-Roper
-- see http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217760,00.html
That was the preliminary question. The main question is:
Did you have trouble deciding?
Just a note: I placed the link on the Baptist ng and "dared" them to
justify the comments. I got some six replies, all repudiating the
group. Not a big number of responses....but better than none.
Pangur - nonchristian theist
Oh, I don't think the Phelpsians are a religous group at all, let
alone a Baptist group. They're outrage junkies, pure and simple.
And as with all addictions, the required dosage escalates with
time. You pretty much have to declare "God hates bunny rabbits",
and then get that out to the media, else people will stop hating you
sufficiently: yeah, yeah, but what have you done to me lately?
I had meant to bring it full circle there: Coulter, clearly, is
an outrage junkie as well. Which accounts for the reckless
hyperbole from each.
Nah, I've always suspected Coulter is a plain old con artist, laughing
behind her hand at the people who buy her books...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "JTEM" |
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07 Oct 2006 06:57:51 AM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
Nah, I've always suspected Coulter is a plain old con
artist, laughing behind her hand at the people who
buy her books...
Her?
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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07 Oct 2006 02:23:35 PM |
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On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 23:57:51 -0700, JTEM wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
Nah, I've always suspected Coulter is a plain old con
artist, laughing behind her hand at the people who
buy her books...
Her?
Well, it's easier than typing "***** of indeterminate gender"...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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07 Oct 2006 03:22:02 AM |
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On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 22:17:29 -0500, in alt.atheism
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
<xYSdndNFS5bUgbrYnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@giganews.com>:
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 22:13:05 +0000, Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <eg6k9e$acs$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu> (Cary Kittrell) writes:
In article <Xns98549B109F475PangurBan.worldnetat@63.218.45.20> Pangur Ban <Pangur-Ban$@worldnet.att.net> writes:
(Cary Kittrell) wrote in
news:eg623h$ocs$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu:
According to foxnews.com, the following quote:
"Those Amish people, everyone is sitting around talking about
those poor little girls -- blah, blah, blah -- they brought the
wrath upon
themselves, ...[the Amish] don't serve God, they serve
themselves"
was uttered by
A) Ann Coulter
B) Shirley Phelps-("rhymes with Fred")-Roper
-- see http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217760,00.html
That was the preliminary question. The main question is:
Did you have trouble deciding?
Just a note: I placed the link on the Baptist ng and "dared" them to
justify the comments. I got some six replies, all repudiating the
group. Not a big number of responses....but better than none.
Pangur - nonchristian theist
Oh, I don't think the Phelpsians are a religous group at all, let
alone a Baptist group. They're outrage junkies, pure and simple.
And as with all addictions, the required dosage escalates with
time. You pretty much have to declare "God hates bunny rabbits",
and then get that out to the media, else people will stop hating you
sufficiently: yeah, yeah, but what have you done to me lately?
I had meant to bring it full circle there: Coulter, clearly, is
an outrage junkie as well. Which accounts for the reckless
hyperbole from each.
Nah, I've always suspected Coulter is a plain old con artist, laughing
behind her hand at the people who buy her books...
But she advocates selfishness, greed and condescension to the fools who
are willing to be conned as long as you say the magic incantation of
"God, guns and gays". I don't think she disagrees with selfishness,
greed or condescension. In that way, she is essentially honest in being
as corrupt as she appears.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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07 Oct 2006 03:34:41 AM |
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On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 22:22:02 -0500, Free Lunch wrote:
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 22:17:29 -0500, in alt.atheism
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
<xYSdndNFS5bUgbrYnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@giganews.com>:
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 22:13:05 +0000, Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <eg6k9e$acs$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu> (Cary Kittrell) writes:
In article <Xns98549B109F475PangurBan.worldnetat@63.218.45.20> Pangur Ban <Pangur-Ban$@worldnet.att.net> writes:
(Cary Kittrell) wrote in
news:eg623h$ocs$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu:
According to foxnews.com, the following quote:
"Those Amish people, everyone is sitting around talking about
those poor little girls -- blah, blah, blah -- they brought the
wrath upon
themselves, ...[the Amish] don't serve God, they serve
themselves"
was uttered by
A) Ann Coulter
B) Shirley Phelps-("rhymes with Fred")-Roper
-- see http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217760,00.html
That was the preliminary question. The main question is:
Did you have trouble deciding?
Just a note: I placed the link on the Baptist ng and "dared" them to
justify the comments. I got some six replies, all repudiating the
group. Not a big number of responses....but better than none.
Pangur - nonchristian theist
Oh, I don't think the Phelpsians are a religous group at all, let
alone a Baptist group. They're outrage junkies, pure and simple.
And as with all addictions, the required dosage escalates with
time. You pretty much have to declare "God hates bunny rabbits",
and then get that out to the media, else people will stop hating you
sufficiently: yeah, yeah, but what have you done to me lately?
I had meant to bring it full circle there: Coulter, clearly, is
an outrage junkie as well. Which accounts for the reckless
hyperbole from each.
Nah, I've always suspected Coulter is a plain old con artist, laughing
behind her hand at the people who buy her books...
But she advocates selfishness, greed and condescension to the fools who
are willing to be conned as long as you say the magic incantation of
"God, guns and gays". I don't think she disagrees with selfishness,
greed or condescension. In that way, she is essentially honest in being
as corrupt as she appears.
Yeah but her books and columns are hastily thrown together screeds into
which she puts no real time nor effort.
She knows what she's doing...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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| Title: Re: It's time to play ... "Name That Nutcase"! |
07 Oct 2006 03:38:26 AM |
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On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 22:34:41 -0500, in alt.atheism
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
<xYSdnc1FS5bMvbrYnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@giganews.com>:
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 22:22:02 -0500, Free Lunch wrote:
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 22:17:29 -0500, in alt.atheism
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
<xYSdndNFS5bUgbrYnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@giganews.com>:
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 22:13:05 +0000, Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <eg6k9e$acs$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu> (Cary Kittrell) writes:
In article <Xns98549B109F475PangurBan.worldnetat@63.218.45.20> Pangur Ban <Pangur-Ban$@worldnet.att.net> writes:
(Cary Kittrell) wrote in
news:eg623h$ocs$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu:
According to foxnews.com, the following quote:
"Those Amish people, everyone is sitting around talking about
those poor little girls -- blah, blah, blah -- they brought the
wrath upon
themselves, ...[the Amish] don't serve God, they serve
themselves"
was uttered by
A) Ann Coulter
B) Shirley Phelps-("rhymes with Fred")-Roper
-- see http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217760,00.html
That was the preliminary question. The main question is:
Did you have trouble deciding?
Just a note: I placed the link on the Baptist ng and "dared" them to
justify the comments. I got some six replies, all repudiating the
group. Not a big number of responses....but better than none.
Pangur - nonchristian theist
Oh, I don't think the Phelpsians are a religous group at all, let
alone a Baptist group. They're outrage junkies, pure and simple.
And as with all addictions, the required dosage escalates with
time. You pretty much have to declare "God hates bunny rabbits",
and then get that out to the media, else people will stop hating you
sufficiently: yeah, yeah, but what have you done to me lately?
I had meant to bring it full circle there: Coulter, clearly, is
an outrage junkie as well. Which accounts for the reckless
hyperbole from each.
Nah, I've always suspected Coulter is a plain old con artist, laughing
behind her hand at the people who buy her books...
But she advocates selfishness, greed and condescension to the fools who
are willing to be conned as long as you say the magic incantation of
"God, guns and gays". I don't think she disagrees with selfishness,
greed or condescension. In that way, she is essentially honest in being
as corrupt as she appears.
Yeah but her books and columns are hastily thrown together screeds into
which she puts no real time nor effort.
She knows what she's doing...
of course. She's just unapologetic.
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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| Title: Re: It's time to play ... "Name That Nutcase"! |
07 Oct 2006 05:16:22 AM |
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On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 17:10:54 -0500, Cary Kittrell wrote
(in article <eg6k9e$acs$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>):
In article <Xns98549B109F475PangurBan.worldnetat@63.218.45.20> Pangur Ban
<Pangur-Ban$@worldnet.att.net> writes:
cary@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote in
news:eg623h$ocs$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu:
According to foxnews.com, the following quote:
"Those Amish people, everyone is sitting around talking about
those poor little girls -- blah, blah, blah -- they brought the
wrath upon
themselves, ...[the Amish] don't serve God, they serve
themselves"
was uttered by
A) Ann Coulter
B) Shirley Phelps-("rhymes with Fred")-Roper
-- see http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217760,00.html
That was the preliminary question. The main question is:
Did you have trouble deciding?
Just a note: I placed the link on the Baptist ng and "dared" them to
justify the comments. I got some six replies, all repudiating the
group. Not a big number of responses....but better than none.
Pangur - nonchristian theist
Oh, I don't think the Phelpsians are a religous group at all, let
alone a Baptist group. They're outrage junkies, pure and simple.
And as with all addictions, the required dosage escalates with
time. You pretty much have to declare "God hates bunny rabbits",
and then get that out to the media, else people will stop hating you
sufficiently: yeah, yeah, but what have you done to me lately?
-- cary
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<http://www.adherents.com/people/pp/Fred_Phelps.html>
"Daddy's Hands"
Mark Phelps feels nauseated whenever he remembers that night. He was
hit over 60 times and his brother, Nate, over 200 with a mattock
handle. Nate went into shock. Mark didn't. A boy who became a
compulsive counter to handle the stress, Mark counted every stroke.
His and Nate's. While their father screamed obscenities and his
brother screamed in pain. Every 20 strokes, their mother wiped their
faces off in the tub. Nate passed out anyway. That was Christmas
Day.
Though he believes he should be the next governor of Kansas, Pastor
Phelps has never believed in Christmas. A mattock is a pick-*****
using a wooden handle heavier than a bat. Fred swung it with both
hands like a ballplayer and with all his might. "The first blow
stunned your whole body," says Mark. "By the third blow, your
backside was so tender, even the lightest strike was agonizing, but
he'd still hit you like he wanted to put it over the fence. By 20,
though, you'd have grown numb with pain. That was when my father
would quit and start on my brother. Later, when the feeling had
returned and it hurt worse than before, he'd do it again. "After 40
strokes, I was weak and nauseous and very pale. My body hurt
terribly. Then it was Nate's turn. He got 40 each time. "I staggered
to the bathtub where my mom was wetting a towel to swab my face.
Behind me, I could hear the mattock and my brother was choking and
moaning. He was crying and he wouldn't stop." The voice in the phone
halts. After an awkward moment, clearing of throats, it continues:
"Then I heard my father shouting my name. My mom was right there,
but she wouldn't help me. It hurt so badly during the third beating
that I kept wanting to drop so he would hit me in the head. I was
hoping I'd be knocked out, or killed...anything to end the pain.
"After that...it was waiting that was terrible. You didn't know if,
when he was done with Nate, he'd hurt you again. I was shaking in a
cold panic. Twenty-five years since it happened, and the same sick
feeling in my stomach comes back now..." Did he? Come back to you?
"No. He just kept beating Nate. It went on and on and on. I remember
the sharp sound of the blows and how finally my brother stopped
screaming... "It was very quiet. All I could think of was would he
do that to me now. I could see my brother lying there in shock, and
I knew in a moment it would be my turn. "I can't describe the basic
animal fear you have in your gut at a time like that. Where someone
has complete power over you. And they're hurting you. And there is
no escape. No way out. If your mom couldn't help you...I can't
explain it to anyone except perhaps a survivor from a POW camp."
Last year, Nate Phelps, sixth of Pastor Phelps' 13 children, accused
his father of child abuse in the national media. The information was
presented as a footnote to the larger story of Fred Phelps' anti-gay
campaign. But the deep currents that lie beneath the apparent
apple-cheeks of the Phelps' clan were stirring. A series of
interviews with Nate resulted in an eyewitness account of life
growing up in the Phelps camp. These reports contained allegations
of persistent and poisonous child abuse, wife-beating, drug
addiction, kidnapping, terrorism, wholesale tax fraud, and business
fraud.
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06 Oct 2006 09:21:58 PM |
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Pangur Ban wrote:
Just a note: I placed the link on the Baptist ng and "dared" them to
justify the comments. I got some six replies, all repudiating the
group. Not a big number of responses....but better than none.
One thing about the Phelps clan is that there are six or seven kids,
and as I recall one's a doctor and all the others a lawyers. I have
long since assumed Phelps behaves as he does in an attempt to provoke
assaults so he can sue people for a living.
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L. Raymond
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06 Oct 2006 10:06:25 PM |
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Cary Kittrell wrote:
According to foxnews.com, the following quote:
"Those Amish people, everyone is sitting around talking about those poor
little girls -- blah, blah, blah -- they brought the wrath upon themselves,
...[the Amish] don't serve God, the serve themselves"
was uttered by
A) Ann Coulter
B) Shirley Phelps-("rhymes with Fred")-Roper
-- see http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217760,00.html
That was the preliminary question. The main question is:
Did you have trouble deciding?
-- cary
While watching Phelps I couldn't help but think about Coulter in 20 years.
Jack
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