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"Mark K. Bilbo" |
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08 Jan 2005 09:03:49 PM |
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I've given birth! |
After four drafts and 120,000 words thrown in the trash. He's 59 chapters
long and weighs 82,300 words.
Now if I can just con a publisher into buying this sucker...
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| Title: Re: I've given birth! |
18 Feb 2005 06:45:53 PM |
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:30:13 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 23:34:45 -0600, wrote
(in article <q9va11dhhu2ql0ib6j3k49m3gvb6aecd9u@4ax.com>):
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 07:47:05 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 00:19:57 GMT, wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:39:29 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 02:11:57 GMT, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 03:52:22 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
[]
I really appreciate the info.
I'm heading to the bookstore this week seeking more.
I saw a book a couple of weeks ago, The History Of Ships that looked
pretty good and I'm going to get a copy.
atheist@home#1554
You might go to the local library's "inter-loan" department and have
them get "Thirty Years on the Bubble" from the USN Historical Library
in Wash. D.C.. The only cavat is the book cannot leave the library.
If I'm ever there :-)
Most of my books are on earlier periods but I'm going to load up on
whatever I can find about the modern era.
Have you seen Das Boot?
It will make you sweat.
Great tension and suspence?
Very much so.
Well directed and very well performed.
It's about a German U-Boat that gets hit and ends up resting on that
unsalable parcel of land that you mentioned earlier.
Very tense imo.
It will have you rooting for the enemy.
I agree that it is a very well-made movie, and very intense. I first saw it
at least 30 years ago and was lucky enough to catch it again recently (after
it had been cleaned up and a new master made.
I didn't know the movie was that old.
I remember sometime during the early sixties when the Thresher, a U.S.
sub went down.
As I recall it took a few days for the Navy to decide that the sub was
indeed lost with all hands.
It was a very tense few days for those of us trying to keep up with
events.
I really appreciate all the
work that so many folks are doing to preserve these old, and fragile movies.)
Oh yeah!
I'm buying up a lot of the old stuff on DVD.
I also have a video of the old 1920s silent movie The Bat.
The Bat is a criminal who has a flashlight that acts as the Bat
signal, he wears a cape and cowl and runs about on rooftops.
It's pretty easy to see where Bob Kane got his idea.
I check local stores as well as the internet a couple of times a month
for stuff.
atheist@home#1554
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14 Feb 2005 12:40:03 PM |
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 03:52:22 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:43:02 -0600, wrote
(in article <q93011lj3kkrp811p61vuilaqg0idqhb4b@4ax.com>):
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I really didn't much like the bunkhall at the fire department.
I'm obviously curious about a lot of this.
Here I'm wondering about the bunks.
How did you sleep when in rough seas?
Or eat?
When I first got on the Oriskany we had "racks," canvas tied with rope into
frames, so your entire bed was one inch thick (the diameter of the tubing
frame), on top of that we had a thin mattress. These racks were stacked up 3
to 4 high in the berthing area. (Better than the old days, then it was 6 high
in the same space.)
http://www.sutcliffegallery.com.au/kanimbla/supply.jpg
(luxury here) Note: The stand up lockers in the top left pic are for
your dress uniforms.
http://www.cushing.navy.mil/sponsor/RACK%20and%20Living%20Quarters.htm
http://www.hellinahandbasket.net/archives/000122.html
I'm six foot tall. The distance between racks in a 3-high
configuration is the distance between my elbow at the top of my closed
fist with knuckles up. That works out to 16" from the top of your
rack pad to the steel bottom of the rack above you. My arms would be
tangled in cable runs and my feet would be hitting the back of a
circuit breaker panel.
Good shots of daily living.
Ouellet FF-1077 Avondale Shipyards
Keel Laid 15 Jan 1969
Launched 17 Jan 1970
Commissioned 12 Dec 1970
Decommissioned 03 Aug 1993
http://www.ussouellet.com/radman/tour.htm
Below is a good shot of berthing
http://www.ussouellet.com/radman/berth.jpg
The middle and bottom racks are coffin lockers. The bottom rack's
outboard side lifts up and is hooked to the middle rack during working
hours. If you notice, under the second florescent light the top rack
has no rack locker. The lockers for the top racks are immediately
below the second florescent light.
Dang! Fast Frigate's actually had a Crew's Lounge.
Our lockers were tiny, about a foot wide, maybe 18 inches high and a bit over
a foot deep.
The later bunks were much better, though still too damned short for me. The
bunk itself was the top cover of your locker, which was the size of your bunk
and about 7 to 8 inches deep, tons of room. So your locker with these was
about 6 feet wide, came out from the bulkhead just under 3 feet, and the
above mentioned 7 or 8 inches deep. Plus we got an additional locker for
those damned CPO/officer uniforms they replaced the Cracker Jack style
uniform with.
As far as actually sleeping, I slept well, but than I can sleep well
anywhere, I could sleep while marching or standing at attention, give me a
horizontal surface and that is heaven.
snip
Not me, the way things are going they might try to grab me back, I ain't
going either.
Really?
To be honest I'm concerned about what the government is doing in
calling up men and women who have already served their time.
It's worse than unfair.
It's almost as though the government feels it owns those people.
When you are in the military you are "owned" by the government. (At least
in their opinion.)
I've read some news articles that claim they are calling people up who
have finished their commitments including reserve.
I believe I might be a bit more than irritated about that.
atheist@home#1554
Irritated is not exactly the word I was use.
That's a tsunami of understatement.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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13 Feb 2005 09:04:18 AM |
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:29:33 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:27:47 -0600, wrote
(in article <4gnn015hv5v48npfkodher0nelatrlvflf@4ax.com>):
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:13:36 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 04:05:22 -0600, wrote
(in article <plml01dh1lgt4mmnhd03jhsg003tdg1euj@4ax.com>):
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 02:14:30 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 23:13:42 -0600, wrote
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 09:46:29 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 03:34:15 GMT, wrote:
snip
Food wasn't a problem. If you were going to be working through
evening chow the cooks would set aside a plate of food for you.
Last night I shuffled through some old pictures from the days I was on
the job and I swear I was skinny as a rail. I wouldn't have expected
these things you are talking about from the navy though.
Why was it like that?
Usually when a critical system like one of the fresh water evaporators
goes down. The water made from sea water is the purest stuff on the
planet-it has to be. First priority for the water is all four of the
ships 1200 psi boilers. The crew gets whatever is left over.
Stoney, imagine what it was like when someone dumped the bilges ahead
of the seawater intakes for the boilers.
It was not a pleasant next several weeks.
This is utterly fascinating.
Explain please.
atheist@home#1554
<snip>
Ever run the water tap and have "milk" come out? Nasty, vile,
fuel-smelling white stuff?
And for several weeks, at the least, everything that has water in it
tastes and smells of this crap.
And washing in it, or washing your clothes in it makes you, and them,
smell like the bottom of a fuel tank.
When you are in the middle of the ocean it really fucks things up. No way
to get any fresh water, to drink, cook with, wash.
Damn!
I would have jumped ship.
That is kind of hard to do when you are floating around in the middle of
the ocean.
Ah but it could be done.
Just grab an old inner tube and jump :-)
Sharks tend to make that a very bad idea, so does the several hundred miles
of open ocean.
/protesting
But no matter *where* you are on the worlds' oceans you are never more
than ten miles from land!
I'm convinced of it after reading what you and Stoney have posted.
Any good memories of the Navy?
Lots of them. I mostly enjoyed my time in. One of my favorites was watching
a huge wave rolling up while I snapped some pictures. ("It missed me by THAT
much.")
Were you on the ship when the wave rolled up?
Yep, starboard aft sponson of the Oriskany, with a rope tied around my waist
(and a LT. and another man on the other end, both inside the hatch. I got the
shots, and got pulled inside before I got washed away. Nothing like seeing a
wave hanging over your head, a long way over your head to make you know you
are alive.
In the Med, or the Atlantic outside the Pillars of Hercules, gentle
seas. I was on the 01 level just forward of the missile launcher for
a few minutes getting some air. Two guys are on the main deck, port
side, strolling aft, and they're just under the quarterdeck's canopy
rails when both look behind them. Both leaped to grab those rails and
pulled themselves up. I turned my head and saw a six foot wave
moseying down the main deck behind them.
Nothing like getting soaked to the skin while inside the ship to really wake
you up either.
That would do it.
Or watching dolphins romp around the ship. Getting "treed" on a
brain coral by a shark in the Philippians.
<sigh>
I signed up at 17.
I wanted to be aboard ship for ever.
I was mostly worried about the lack of privacy and was concerned that
once I got in I wouldn't like it and would be stuck.
I took the test and walked out before I was sworn in.
I've always wondered if that was a mistake.
I can't answer that for you.
Nor can anyone else.
I like my privacy, but you make do, and find
your privacy as you need it. It is amazing how private you can be while
surrounded by several hundred others. (Or several thousands on an aircraft
carrier.)
Yep.
snip
You guys got robbed.
Well, it was the 1970's, not the 1870's. That makes a bit of a difference.
The Navy ain't what it used to be or what I thought it was and I ain't
jinnin' up. Nope.
And you can tell'em I said so.
Not me, the way things are going they might try to grab me back, I ain't
going either.
Really?
To be honest I'm concerned about what the government is doing in
calling up men and women who have already served their time.
It's worse than unfair.
It's almost as though the government feels it owns those people.
When you are in the military you are "owned" by the government. (At least in
their opinion.)
Yep.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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13 Feb 2005 08:45:51 PM |
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 07:04:18 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:29:33 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
<snip>
And washing in it, or washing your clothes in it makes you, and them,
smell like the bottom of a fuel tank.
When you are in the middle of the ocean it really fucks things up. No way
to get any fresh water, to drink, cook with, wash.
Damn!
I would have jumped ship.
That is kind of hard to do when you are floating around in the middle of
the ocean.
Ah but it could be done.
Just grab an old inner tube and jump :-)
Sharks tend to make that a very bad idea, so does the several hundred miles
of open ocean.
/protesting
But no matter *where* you are on the worlds' oceans you are never more
than ten miles from land!
...... <?>
I'm convinced of it after reading what you and Stoney have posted.
Any good memories of the Navy?
Lots of them. I mostly enjoyed my time in. One of my favorites was watching
a huge wave rolling up while I snapped some pictures. ("It missed me by THAT
much.")
Were you on the ship when the wave rolled up?
Yep, starboard aft sponson of the Oriskany, with a rope tied around my waist
(and a LT. and another man on the other end, both inside the hatch. I got the
shots, and got pulled inside before I got washed away. Nothing like seeing a
wave hanging over your head, a long way over your head to make you know you
are alive.
In the Med, or the Atlantic outside the Pillars of Hercules, gentle
seas. I was on the 01 level just forward of the missile launcher for
a few minutes getting some air. Two guys are on the main deck, port
side, strolling aft, and they're just under the quarterdeck's canopy
rails when both look behind them. Both leaped to grab those rails and
pulled themselves up. I turned my head and saw a six foot wave
moseying down the main deck behind them.
Is that common?
atheist@home#1554
<snip>
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14 Feb 2005 11:28:47 AM |
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:45:51 GMT, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 07:04:18 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:29:33 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
<snip>
And washing in it, or washing your clothes in it makes you, and them,
smell like the bottom of a fuel tank.
When you are in the middle of the ocean it really fucks things up. No way
to get any fresh water, to drink, cook with, wash.
Damn!
I would have jumped ship.
That is kind of hard to do when you are floating around in the middle of
the ocean.
Ah but it could be done.
Just grab an old inner tube and jump :-)
Sharks tend to make that a very bad idea, so does the several hundred miles
of open ocean.
/protesting
But no matter *where* you are on the worlds' oceans you are never more
than ten miles from land!
..... <?>
I never said it was dry...... :)
I'm convinced of it after reading what you and Stoney have posted.
Any good memories of the Navy?
Lots of them. I mostly enjoyed my time in. One of my favorites was watching
a huge wave rolling up while I snapped some pictures. ("It missed me by THAT
much.")
Were you on the ship when the wave rolled up?
Yep, starboard aft sponson of the Oriskany, with a rope tied around my waist
(and a LT. and another man on the other end, both inside the hatch. I got the
shots, and got pulled inside before I got washed away. Nothing like seeing a
wave hanging over your head, a long way over your head to make you know you
are alive.
In the Med, or the Atlantic outside the Pillars of Hercules, gentle
seas. I was on the 01 level just forward of the missile launcher for
a few minutes getting some air. Two guys are on the main deck, port
side, strolling aft, and they're just under the quarterdeck's canopy
rails when both look behind them. Both leaped to grab those rails and
pulled themselves up. I turned my head and saw a six foot wave
moseying down the main deck behind them.
Is that common?
I'm sure it happens every so often.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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14 Feb 2005 02:54:59 AM |
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:45:51 -0600, wrote
(in article <ba4011t0qehj868m4cna4gnrjtr1mbovnc@4ax.com>):
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 07:04:18 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:29:33 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
<snip>
And washing in it, or washing your clothes in it makes you, and them,
smell like the bottom of a fuel tank.
When you are in the middle of the ocean it really fucks things up. No
way
to get any fresh water, to drink, cook with, wash.
Damn!
I would have jumped ship.
That is kind of hard to do when you are floating around in the middle of
the ocean.
Ah but it could be done.
Just grab an old inner tube and jump :-)
Sharks tend to make that a very bad idea, so does the several hundred
miles
of open ocean.
/protesting
But no matter *where* you are on the worlds' oceans you are never more
than ten miles from land!
..... <?>
The deepest spot in the world is only a bit over 7 miles under the surface of
the ocean. Marianas Trench in the Pacific, fairly near to Japan I think.
I'm convinced of it after reading what you and Stoney have posted.
Any good memories of the Navy?
Lots of them. I mostly enjoyed my time in. One of my favorites was
watching
a huge wave rolling up while I snapped some pictures. ("It missed me by
THAT
much.")
Were you on the ship when the wave rolled up?
Yep, starboard aft sponson of the Oriskany, with a rope tied around my
waist
(and a LT. and another man on the other end, both inside the hatch. I got
the
shots, and got pulled inside before I got washed away. Nothing like seeing
a
wave hanging over your head, a long way over your head to make you know
you
are alive.
In the Med, or the Atlantic outside the Pillars of Hercules, gentle
seas. I was on the 01 level just forward of the missile launcher for
a few minutes getting some air. Two guys are on the main deck, port
side, strolling aft, and they're just under the quarterdeck's canopy
rails when both look behind them. Both leaped to grab those rails and
pulled themselves up. I turned my head and saw a six foot wave
moseying down the main deck behind them.
Is that common?
atheist@home#1554
<snip>
Depends on the size of the ship, we had it happen more than a few times on
the Oriskany, it happens a lot more often with something like a Coast Guard
cutter.
I was once on a cabin cruiser, made from an ex-Navy ships boat, we were on
the out-skirts of a hurricane off Florida back in the mid-50's, we rolled
around enough, and had enough water going over the top, that it felt like
being in a milk bottle in a washing machine. (And I was all of 5, and walking
from one bulkhead to the other, literally, I was walking first on one
bulkhead then across the deck and then walking on the other bulkhead, all
while eating a sandwich and drinking coffee. Even my dad was a bit green
about that.)
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
America, making tomorrow's terrorists today.
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15 Feb 2005 08:05:44 PM |
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:54:59 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:45:51 -0600, wrote
(in article <ba4011t0qehj868m4cna4gnrjtr1mbovnc@4ax.com>):
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 07:04:18 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:29:33 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
<snip>
Lots of them. I mostly enjoyed my time in. One of my favorites was
watching
a huge wave rolling up while I snapped some pictures. ("It missed me by
THAT
much.")
Were you on the ship when the wave rolled up?
Yep, starboard aft sponson of the Oriskany, with a rope tied around my
waist
(and a LT. and another man on the other end, both inside the hatch. I got
the
shots, and got pulled inside before I got washed away. Nothing like seeing
a
wave hanging over your head, a long way over your head to make you know
you
are alive.
In the Med, or the Atlantic outside the Pillars of Hercules, gentle
seas. I was on the 01 level just forward of the missile launcher for
a few minutes getting some air. Two guys are on the main deck, port
side, strolling aft, and they're just under the quarterdeck's canopy
rails when both look behind them. Both leaped to grab those rails and
pulled themselves up. I turned my head and saw a six foot wave
moseying down the main deck behind them.
Is that common?
atheist@home#1554
<snip>
Depends on the size of the ship, we had it happen more than a few times on
the Oriskany, it happens a lot more often with something like a Coast Guard
cutter.
I was once on a cabin cruiser, made from an ex-Navy ships boat, we were on
the out-skirts of a hurricane off Florida back in the mid-50's, we rolled
around enough, and had enough water going over the top, that it felt like
being in a milk bottle in a washing machine. (And I was all of 5, and walking
from one bulkhead to the other, literally, I was walking first on one
bulkhead then across the deck and then walking on the other bulkhead, all
while eating a sandwich and drinking coffee. Even my dad was a bit green
about that.)
It didn't scare the heck out of you?
atheist@home#1554
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16 Feb 2005 04:20:36 AM |
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:05:44 -0600, wrote
(in article <vma5111fpsg0446722e1iki4bho17n9bks@4ax.com>):
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:54:59 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:45:51 -0600, wrote
(in article <ba4011t0qehj868m4cna4gnrjtr1mbovnc@4ax.com>):
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 07:04:18 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:29:33 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
<snip>
Lots of them. I mostly enjoyed my time in. One of my favorites was
watching
a huge wave rolling up while I snapped some pictures. ("It missed me
by
THAT
much.")
Were you on the ship when the wave rolled up?
Yep, starboard aft sponson of the Oriskany, with a rope tied around my
waist
(and a LT. and another man on the other end, both inside the hatch. I
got
the
shots, and got pulled inside before I got washed away. Nothing like
seeing
a
wave hanging over your head, a long way over your head to make you know
you
are alive.
In the Med, or the Atlantic outside the Pillars of Hercules, gentle
seas. I was on the 01 level just forward of the missile launcher for
a few minutes getting some air. Two guys are on the main deck, port
side, strolling aft, and they're just under the quarterdeck's canopy
rails when both look behind them. Both leaped to grab those rails and
pulled themselves up. I turned my head and saw a six foot wave
moseying down the main deck behind them.
Is that common?
atheist@home#1554
<snip>
Depends on the size of the ship, we had it happen more than a few times on
the Oriskany, it happens a lot more often with something like a Coast Guard
cutter.
I was once on a cabin cruiser, made from an ex-Navy ships boat, we were on
the out-skirts of a hurricane off Florida back in the mid-50's, we rolled
around enough, and had enough water going over the top, that it felt like
being in a milk bottle in a washing machine. (And I was all of 5, and
walking
from one bulkhead to the other, literally, I was walking first on one
bulkhead then across the deck and then walking on the other bulkhead, all
while eating a sandwich and drinking coffee. Even my dad was a bit green
about that.)
It didn't scare the heck out of you?
No, but than I was just 5 years old. Actually I had a blast. (And the weird
thing is I hate roller coasters, which are perhaps the closest thing to being
on that boat.)
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
"God hates figs."
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14 Feb 2005 11:32:20 AM |
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:54:59 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:45:51 -0600, wrote
(in article <ba4011t0qehj868m4cna4gnrjtr1mbovnc@4ax.com>):
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 07:04:18 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:29:33 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
<snip>
And washing in it, or washing your clothes in it makes you, and them,
smell like the bottom of a fuel tank.
When you are in the middle of the ocean it really fucks things up. No
way
to get any fresh water, to drink, cook with, wash.
Damn!
I would have jumped ship.
That is kind of hard to do when you are floating around in the middle of
the ocean.
Ah but it could be done.
Just grab an old inner tube and jump :-)
Sharks tend to make that a very bad idea, so does the several hundred
miles
of open ocean.
/protesting
But no matter *where* you are on the worlds' oceans you are never more
than ten miles from land!
..... <?>
The deepest spot in the world is only a bit over 7 miles under the surface of
the ocean. Marianas Trench in the Pacific, fairly near to Japan I think.
I knew the Marianas was 6 or 7 miles deep, but I seem to recall
reading something about finding a spot deeper.
I'm convinced of it after reading what you and Stoney have posted.
Any good memories of the Navy?
Lots of them. I mostly enjoyed my time in. One of my favorites was
watching
a huge wave rolling up while I snapped some pictures. ("It missed me by
THAT
much.")
Were you on the ship when the wave rolled up?
Yep, starboard aft sponson of the Oriskany, with a rope tied around my
waist
(and a LT. and another man on the other end, both inside the hatch. I got
the
shots, and got pulled inside before I got washed away. Nothing like seeing
a
wave hanging over your head, a long way over your head to make you know
you
are alive.
In the Med, or the Atlantic outside the Pillars of Hercules, gentle
seas. I was on the 01 level just forward of the missile launcher for
a few minutes getting some air. Two guys are on the main deck, port
side, strolling aft, and they're just under the quarterdeck's canopy
rails when both look behind them. Both leaped to grab those rails and
pulled themselves up. I turned my head and saw a six foot wave
moseying down the main deck behind them.
Is that common?
atheist@home#1554
<snip>
Depends on the size of the ship, we had it happen more than a few times on
the Oriskany, it happens a lot more often with something like a Coast Guard
cutter.
I was once on a cabin cruiser, made from an ex-Navy ships boat, we were on
the out-skirts of a hurricane off Florida back in the mid-50's, we rolled
around enough, and had enough water going over the top, that it felt like
being in a milk bottle in a washing machine. (And I was all of 5, and walking
from one bulkhead to the other, literally, I was walking first on one
bulkhead then across the deck and then walking on the other bulkhead, all
while eating a sandwich and drinking coffee. Even my dad was a bit green
about that.)
( chuckling )
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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14 Feb 2005 02:31:12 AM |
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 09:04:18 -0600, stoney wrote
(in article <ogqu01pl3ejkbhh1jh696dp2o8dt4tf7ti@4ax.com>):
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:29:33 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:27:47 -0600, wrote
(in article <4gnn015hv5v48npfkodher0nelatrlvflf@4ax.com>):
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:13:36 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 04:05:22 -0600, wrote
(in article <plml01dh1lgt4mmnhd03jhsg003tdg1euj@4ax.com>):
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 02:14:30 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 23:13:42 -0600, wrote
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 09:46:29 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 03:34:15 GMT, wrote:
snip
Food wasn't a problem. If you were going to be working through
evening chow the cooks would set aside a plate of food for you.
Last night I shuffled through some old pictures from the days I was
on
the job and I swear I was skinny as a rail. I wouldn't have
expected
these things you are talking about from the navy though.
Why was it like that?
Usually when a critical system like one of the fresh water
evaporators
goes down. The water made from sea water is the purest stuff on the
planet-it has to be. First priority for the water is all four of the
ships 1200 psi boilers. The crew gets whatever is left over.
Stoney, imagine what it was like when someone dumped the bilges ahead
of the seawater intakes for the boilers.
It was not a pleasant next several weeks.
This is utterly fascinating.
Explain please.
atheist@home#1554
<snip>
Ever run the water tap and have "milk" come out? Nasty, vile,
fuel-smelling white stuff?
And for several weeks, at the least, everything that has water in it
tastes and smells of this crap.
And washing in it, or washing your clothes in it makes you, and them,
smell like the bottom of a fuel tank.
When you are in the middle of the ocean it really fucks things up. No
way
to get any fresh water, to drink, cook with, wash.
Damn!
I would have jumped ship.
That is kind of hard to do when you are floating around in the middle of
the ocean.
Ah but it could be done.
Just grab an old inner tube and jump :-)
Sharks tend to make that a very bad idea, so does the several hundred miles
of open ocean.
/protesting
But no matter *where* you are on the worlds' oceans you are never more
than ten miles from land!
That land is a bit too dampish for me, I prefer dry land, with a view of the
stars, kind of hard to see the stars from under 7 miles of sea water, or even
300 feet of sea water.
I'm convinced of it after reading what you and Stoney have posted.
Any good memories of the Navy?
Lots of them. I mostly enjoyed my time in. One of my favorites was
watching
a huge wave rolling up while I snapped some pictures. ("It missed me by
THAT
much.")
Were you on the ship when the wave rolled up?
Yep, starboard aft sponson of the Oriskany, with a rope tied around my waist
(and a LT. and another man on the other end, both inside the hatch. I got
the
shots, and got pulled inside before I got washed away. Nothing like seeing a
wave hanging over your head, a long way over your head to make you know you
are alive.
In the Med, or the Atlantic outside the Pillars of Hercules, gentle
seas. I was on the 01 level just forward of the missile launcher for
a few minutes getting some air. Two guys are on the main deck, port
side, strolling aft, and they're just under the quarterdeck's canopy
rails when both look behind them. Both leaped to grab those rails and
pulled themselves up. I turned my head and saw a six foot wave
moseying down the main deck behind them.
The Pacific is a bit more troubled than the Med or (much of) the Atlantic.
From what my dad said the only time you really had bad waves in the Atlantic
was during storms, the Pacific seems to be much more aggressive even without
storms. But at the same time we had plenty of beautiful days, smooth sailing,
sunny and calm.
snip
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
A baseball bat, with the words "Clue Stick" impressed into the wood. Anyone
smacked upside the head with it will have a useful personal epiphany, and a
blinding headache. A sheet of paper accompanying the bat indicates that other
models are also available, such as the "Ugly Stick." - Warehouse 23
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14 Feb 2005 11:39:37 AM |
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:31:12 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 09:04:18 -0600, stoney wrote
(in article <ogqu01pl3ejkbhh1jh696dp2o8dt4tf7ti@4ax.com>):
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:29:33 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:27:47 -0600, wrote
(in article <4gnn015hv5v48npfkodher0nelatrlvflf@4ax.com>):
[]
When you are in the middle of the ocean it really fucks things up. No
way
to get any fresh water, to drink, cook with, wash.
Damn!
I would have jumped ship.
That is kind of hard to do when you are floating around in the middle of
the ocean.
Ah but it could be done.
Just grab an old inner tube and jump :-)
Sharks tend to make that a very bad idea, so does the several hundred miles
of open ocean.
/protesting
But no matter *where* you are on the worlds' oceans you are never more
than ten miles from land!
That land is a bit too dampish for me, I prefer dry land, with a view of the
stars, kind of hard to see the stars from under 7 miles of sea water, or even
300 feet of sea water.
(hands on hips and exasperated sigh)
Picky, picky, picky....
Damned sailors have to find *something* to ***** about....
I'm convinced of it after reading what you and Stoney have posted.
Any good memories of the Navy?
Lots of them. I mostly enjoyed my time in. One of my favorites was
watching
a huge wave rolling up while I snapped some pictures. ("It missed me by
THAT
much.")
Were you on the ship when the wave rolled up?
Yep, starboard aft sponson of the Oriskany, with a rope tied around my waist
(and a LT. and another man on the other end, both inside the hatch. I got
the
shots, and got pulled inside before I got washed away. Nothing like seeing a
wave hanging over your head, a long way over your head to make you know you
are alive.
In the Med, or the Atlantic outside the Pillars of Hercules, gentle
seas. I was on the 01 level just forward of the missile launcher for
a few minutes getting some air. Two guys are on the main deck, port
side, strolling aft, and they're just under the quarterdeck's canopy
rails when both look behind them. Both leaped to grab those rails and
pulled themselves up. I turned my head and saw a six foot wave
moseying down the main deck behind them.
The Pacific is a bit more troubled than the Med or (much of) the Atlantic.
From what my dad said the only time you really had bad waves in the Atlantic
was during storms, the Pacific seems to be much more aggressive even without
storms. But at the same time we had plenty of beautiful days, smooth sailing,
sunny and calm.
There were several times where the sea was like a sheet of glass. And
sometimes I'd go out on the fantail at night to look at the stars.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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10 Feb 2005 10:26:02 AM |
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:05:22 GMT, wrote:
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 02:14:30 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 23:13:42 -0600, wrote
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 09:46:29 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 03:34:15 GMT, wrote:
snip
Food wasn't a problem. If you were going to be working through
evening chow the cooks would set aside a plate of food for you.
Last night I shuffled through some old pictures from the days I was on
the job and I swear I was skinny as a rail. I wouldn't have expected
these things you are talking about from the navy though.
Why was it like that?
Usually when a critical system like one of the fresh water evaporators
goes down. The water made from sea water is the purest stuff on the
planet-it has to be. First priority for the water is all four of the
ships 1200 psi boilers. The crew gets whatever is left over.
Stoney, imagine what it was like when someone dumped the bilges ahead of
the
seawater intakes for the boilers.
It was not a pleasant next several weeks.
This is utterly fascinating.
Explain please.
atheist@home#1554
<snip>
Ever run the water tap and have "milk" come out? Nasty, vile, fuel-smelling
white stuff?
And for several weeks, at the least, everything that has water in it tastes
and smells of this crap.
And washing in it, or washing your clothes in it makes you, and them, smell
like the bottom of a fuel tank.
When you are in the middle of the ocean it really fucks things up. No way to
get any fresh water, to drink, cook with, wash.
Damn!
I would have jumped ship.
I'm convinced of it after reading what you and Stoney have posted.
I've only mentioned the light stuff.
Any good memories of the Navy?
Either of you?
Sure.
No half naked women in grass skirts doing the hula on the beach?
Or paddling their canoes out to meet your ship, laughing and
singing... beautiful bare breasts bouncing and glistening like jewels
in the sunlight from sweet Tahitian sweat?
Nope, I was in the Atlantic Fleet.
No hot steamy nights in grass huts with unbelievably gorgeous, loose
women wearing nothing but smooth brown skins and long black hair doing
nookie nookie wowwow all night long?
Nope, I was in the Atlantic Fleet.
You guys got robbed.
Sure did.
The Navy ain't what it used to be or what I thought it was and I ain't
jinnin' up.
Nope.
And you can tell'em I said so.
The canoe club tried to get me to reup. I laughed.
It was a difficult choice she had to make and both men could see that
she was troubled by it.
The two were friends and had been shipmates for three years, sharing
with one another everything that either possessed...but each knew that
he could not share this woman....and each wanted her more than he had
ever wanted anything in his life...wanted her all to himself.
She glanced up from her coconut, beautiful brown eyes glistening with
tears, looking first at Stoney...then Harry.
Both men felt a sudden twinge of guilt for having placed such a burden
on one so young and innocent...but it was a thing that had to be done.
Her sad eyes moved from one to the other, cautious, uncertain, knowing
that whatever decision she made would cause pain to the one denied.
She lowered her eyes and soft, sweet tears began to flow down her
cheeks as her shoulders and breasts heaved uncontrollably.
The men looked at one another then turned away, embarrassed and
ashamed of what they had done to the woman who meant more to them than
life itself.
Then..as suddenly as it had begun the sobbing ceased.
She slowly raised her eyes, looked at Stoney, reached out and gently
taking his hand in hers sighed; "Oh Kookoh Day Meena Koh." Which is to
say: "Oh He Of The Large And Frightning Member."
"Nookie cooky sure, Kookoh Day Meena Koh."
Which translated is, "You know I have the hots for you Stoney."
Stoney's heart skipped a beat and he felt as though his bulkheads had
been breeched as his love for the woman surged through him like
seawater through a Russian submarine.
Harry lowered his eyes feeling as though someone had dumped the bilges
ahead of the seawater intakes for the boilers, knowing the grief that
was to follow, but determined to accept her choice gracefully...for
her sake...and for the sake of his friend.
She released Stoney's trembling hand, turned to Harry and taking his
hand in turn looked lovingly into his eyes and said; Oh, Keokay Kotay
Sheemeah Tokwa."
"Oh, He of The Small But Largely Talented Member."
"Nookie cooky sure Teemo, Keokay Kotay Sheemeah."
"You know I also have the hots for you Harry."
<And here dear reader, for the sake of rhythm and flow I shall
dispense with the young lady's native language and present the rest of
the story in english, doing away with the need to translate because
frankly I'm getting too drunk to keep up with the damned thing>
RRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNGGGGGGG.
Releasing Harry's hand and placing her own softly upon her lap,
looking wistfully off in the distance she explained that though she
loved them both dearly, there was another...also a man of the sea that
she had heard about...a legend among the females of her people...a
legend passed down from mother to daughter...the one to whom her heart
truly belonged and the one that she hoped would someday come and take
her away.
A man to whom no other sailor could compare...
And she closed her eyes and began rocking back and forth, humming the
song of the sailor...the song that had been passed down from mother to
daughter for generations......
http://www.everwonder.com/david/popeye/
atheist@home#1554
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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10 Feb 2005 04:44:33 PM |
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:26:02 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:05:22 GMT, wrote:
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 02:14:30 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 23:13:42 -0600, wrote
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 09:46:29 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 03:34:15 GMT, wrote:
snip
Food wasn't a problem. If you were going to be working through
evening chow the cooks would set aside a plate of food for you.
Last night I shuffled through some old pictures from the days I was on
the job and I swear I was skinny as a rail. I wouldn't have expected
these things you are talking about from the navy though.
Why was it like that?
Usually when a critical system like one of the fresh water evaporators
goes down. The water made from sea water is the purest stuff on the
planet-it has to be. First priority for the water is all four of the
ships 1200 psi boilers. The crew gets whatever is left over.
Stoney, imagine what it was like when someone dumped the bilges ahead of
the
seawater intakes for the boilers.
It was not a pleasant next several weeks.
This is utterly fascinating.
Explain please.
atheist@home#1554
<snip>
Ever run the water tap and have "milk" come out? Nasty, vile, fuel-smelling
white stuff?
And for several weeks, at the least, everything that has water in it tastes
and smells of this crap.
And washing in it, or washing your clothes in it makes you, and them, smell
like the bottom of a fuel tank.
When you are in the middle of the ocean it really fucks things up. No way to
get any fresh water, to drink, cook with, wash.
Damn!
I would have jumped ship.
I'm convinced of it after reading what you and Stoney have posted.
I've only mentioned the light stuff.
What else?
I wanted Navy.
I had this dream of spending my life there.
I went to Millington Navy base with a friend whose father was still in
the reserves when I was about fourteen.
It was clean and well organized and the food was great.
But when I signed up I got worried that I might not be able to cope
with a life that seemed so structured.
<I was worried about a couple of other things as well>
Truth is I expect the structure would have been good for me.
Any good memories of the Navy?
Either of you?
Sure.
Care to tell about them?
Ever caught in really bad storms at sea?
How well did the ships ride?
No half naked women in grass skirts doing the hula on the beach?
Or paddling their canoes out to meet your ship, laughing and
singing... beautiful bare breasts bouncing and glistening like jewels
in the sunlight from sweet Tahitian sweat?
Nope, I was in the Atlantic Fleet.
No hot steamy nights in grass huts with unbelievably gorgeous, loose
women wearing nothing but smooth brown skins and long black hair doing
nookie nookie wowwow all night long?
Nope, I was in the Atlantic Fleet.
I was joking.
You guys got robbed.
Sure did.
The Navy ain't what it used to be or what I thought it was and I ain't
jinnin' up.
Nope.
And you can tell'em I said so.
The canoe club tried to get me to reup. I laughed.
Was your situation unique to the ship were on or is that sort of thing
common?
It was a difficult choice she had to make and both men could see that
she was troubled by it.
The two were friends and had been shipmates for three years, sharing
with one another everything that either possessed...but each knew that
he could not share this woman....and each wanted her more than he had
ever wanted anything in his life...wanted her all to himself.
She glanced up from her coconut, beautiful brown eyes glistening with
tears, looking first at Stoney...then Harry.
Both men felt a sudden twinge of guilt for having placed such a burden
on one so young and innocent...but it was a thing that had to be done.
Her sad eyes moved from one to the other, cautious, uncertain, knowing
that whatever decision she made would cause pain to the one denied.
She lowered her eyes and soft, sweet tears began to flow down her
cheeks as her shoulders and breasts heaved uncontrollably.
The men looked at one another then turned away, embarrassed and
ashamed of what they had done to the woman who meant more to them than
life itself.
Then..as suddenly as it had begun the sobbing ceased.
She slowly raised her eyes, looked at Stoney, reached out and gently
taking his hand in hers sighed; "Oh Kookoh Day Meena Koh." Which is to
say: "Oh He Of The Large And Frightning Member."
"Nookie cooky sure, Kookoh Day Meena Koh."
Which translated is, "You know I have the hots for you Stoney."
Stoney's heart skipped a beat and he felt as though his bulkheads had
been breeched as his love for the woman surged through him like
seawater through a Russian submarine.
Harry lowered his eyes feeling as though someone had dumped the bilges
ahead of the seawater intakes for the boilers, knowing the grief that
was to follow, but determined to accept her choice gracefully...for
her sake...and for the sake of his friend.
She released Stoney's trembling hand, turned to Harry and taking his
hand in turn looked lovingly into his eyes and said; Oh, Keokay Kotay
Sheemeah Tokwa."
"Oh, He of The Small But Largely Talented Member."
"Nookie cooky sure Teemo, Keokay Kotay Sheemeah."
"You know I also have the hots for you Harry."
<And here dear reader, for the sake of rhythm and flow I shall
dispense with the young lady's native language and present the rest of
the story in english only, doing away with the need to translate because
frankly I'm getting too drunk to keep up with the damned thing>
RRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNGGGGGGG.
Heh.
I was in a strange mood and couldn't sleep again :-)
atheist@home#1554
Releasing Harry's hand and placing her own softly upon her lap,
looking wistfully off in the distance she explained that though she
loved them both dearly, there was another...also a man of the sea that
she had heard about...a legend among the females of her people...a
legend passed down from mother to daughter...the one to whom her heart
truly belonged and the one that she hoped would someday come and take
her away.
A man to whom no other sailor could compare...
And she closed her eyes and began rocking back and forth, humming the
song of the sailor...the song that had been passed down from mother to
daughter for generations......
http://www.everwonder.com/david/popeye/
atheist@home#1554
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10 Feb 2005 05:32:11 PM |
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:26:02 -0600, stoney wrote
(in article <ce2n01lutihj2enp61thb072h73uqk0bj5@4ax.com>):
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:05:22 GMT, wrote:
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 02:14:30 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 23:13:42 -0600, wrote
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 09:46:29 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 03:34:15 GMT, wrote:
snip
Food wasn't a problem. If you were going to be working through
evening chow the cooks would set aside a plate of food for you.
Last night I shuffled through some old pictures from the days I was on
the job and I swear I was skinny as a rail. I wouldn't have expected
these things you are talking about from the navy though.
Why was it like that?
Usually when a critical system like one of the fresh water evaporators
goes down. The water made from sea water is the purest stuff on the
planet-it has to be. First priority for the water is all four of the
ships 1200 psi boilers. The crew gets whatever is left over.
Stoney, imagine what it was like when someone dumped the bilges ahead of
the
seawater intakes for the boilers.
It was not a pleasant next several weeks.
This is utterly fascinating.
Explain please.
atheist@home#1554
<snip>
Ever run the water tap and have "milk" come out? Nasty, vile,
fuel-smelling
white stuff?
And for several weeks, at the least, everything that has water in it
tastes
and smells of this crap.
And washing in it, or washing your clothes in it makes you, and them,
smell
like the bottom of a fuel tank.
When you are in the middle of the ocean it really fucks things up. No way
to
get any fresh water, to drink, cook with, wash.
Damn!
I would have jumped ship.
I'm convinced of it after reading what you and Stoney have posted.
I've only mentioned the light stuff.
Any good memories of the Navy?
Either of you?
Sure.
No half naked women in grass skirts doing the hula on the beach?
Or paddling their canoes out to meet your ship, laughing and
singing... beautiful bare breasts bouncing and glistening like jewels
in the sunlight from sweet Tahitian sweat?
Nope, I was in the Atlantic Fleet.
I never got to Tahiti, and from what I hear, and read, it is more a tourist
trap these days.
No hot steamy nights in grass huts with unbelievably gorgeous, loose
women wearing nothing but smooth brown skins and long black hair doing
nookie nookie wowwow all night long?
Nope, I was in the Atlantic Fleet.
You don't find that in the Pacific either anymore.
You guys got robbed.
Sure did.
The Navy ain't what it used to be or what I thought it was and I ain't
jinnin' up.
Nope.
And you can tell'em I said so.
The canoe club tried to get me to reup. I laughed.
I went in for the 6 year tour, I actually got out at 5 years, 12 days, 14
hours, and 6 minutes.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
³Damn. Someone's been pissing in my genepool again.³-Kermit
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09 Feb 2005 09:33:16 AM |
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On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:05:45 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 11:21:23 -0600, stoney wrote
(in article <6iqh01lci3gbce0889ndod0p737hea1moi@4ax.com>):
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 02:56:12 GMT, wrote:
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 09:46:29 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 03:34:15 GMT, wrote:
snip
Food wasn't a problem. If you were going to be working through
evening chow the cooks would set aside a plate of food for you.
Last night I shuffled through some old pictures from the days I was on
the job and I swear I was skinny as a rail. I wouldn't have expected
these things you are talking about from the navy though.
Why was it like that?
Usually when a critical system like one of the fresh water evaporators
goes down. The water made from sea water is the purest stuff on the
planet-it has to be. First priority for the water is all four of the
ships 1200 psi boilers. The crew gets whatever is left over.
Stoney, imagine what it was like when someone dumped the bilges ahead of the
seawater intakes for the boilers.
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was not a pleasant next several weeks.
That would be putting it mildly.
How in the heck do you purge systems after something like that?
snip
I had screaming, hebbie jeebie nightmares for years after I quit.
If there is a God His name is sleep.
It truly is.
It's been almost thirty years since I quit and I'll be damned if I'm
not still tired from it :-)
I had been out of the 'canoe club' for a couple of years working as a
machine tool electrician building custom induction heating/forging
equipment when the following occurred.
I climbed down from the machine under construction I was working on
and was walking to the other side of the building, where my toolbox
rollaround was, deep in thought when power dropped. I took probably
three automatic long strides before I came back to myself. I was
headed for a non-existant forward emergency diesel generator room to
man the emergency station.
Had the above happen a few times to me after I got out. It seems you never
quite forget those emergency stations or procedures.
It happened just the once. However, it was many years before I broke
the habit of twining my feet around chair legs when sitting.
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Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
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09 Feb 2005 11:30:49 AM |
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On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 07:33:16 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:
It happened just the once. However, it was many years before I broke
the habit of twining my feet around chair legs when sitting.
I still do that sometimes - after 45 years. How else do you stay in
your chair?
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"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid
consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and
ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who
works on the basis of reward and punishment. "
- Letter to M. Berkowitz, October 25, 1950; Einstein Archive 59-215
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rukbat at verizon dot net
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10 Feb 2005 10:27:58 AM |
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On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:30:49 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 07:33:16 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:
It happened just the once. However, it was many years before I broke
the habit of twining my feet around chair legs when sitting.
I still do that sometimes - after 45 years. How else do you stay in
your chair?
The gravity of the situation, of course. :)
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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10 Feb 2005 06:48:11 PM |
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:27:58 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:
On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:30:49 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 07:33:16 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:
It happened just the once. However, it was many years before I broke
the habit of twining my feet around chair legs when sitting.
I still do that sometimes - after 45 years. How else do you stay in
your chair?
The gravity of the situation, of course. :)
As long as my ankles aren't broken I won't trust gravity.
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Zymurgist # 2
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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13 Feb 2005 09:04:51 AM |
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:48:11 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:27:58 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:
On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:30:49 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 07:33:16 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:
It happened just the once. However, it was many years before I broke
the habit of twining my feet around chair legs when sitting.
I still do that sometimes - after 45 years. How else do you stay in
your chair?
The gravity of the situation, of course. :)
As long as my ankles aren't broken I won't trust gravity.
Smart man.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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11 Feb 2005 09:32:54 AM |
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On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 09:33:16 -0600, stoney wrote
(in article <qvak01ditqgmal9b5jv8e6iuad8074of8e@4ax.com>):
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:05:45 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 11:21:23 -0600, stoney wrote
(in article <6iqh01lci3gbce0889ndod0p737hea1moi@4ax.com>):
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 02:56:12 GMT, wrote:
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 09:46:29 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 03:34:15 GMT, wrote:
snip
Food wasn't a problem. If you were going to be working through
evening chow the cooks would set aside a plate of food for you.
Last night I shuffled through some old pictures from the days I was on
the job and I swear I was skinny as a rail. I wouldn't have expected
these things you are talking about from the navy though.
Why was it like that?
Usually when a critical system like one of the fresh water evaporators
goes down. The water made from sea water is the purest stuff on the
planet-it has to be. First priority for the water is all four of the
ships 1200 psi boilers. The crew gets whatever is left over.
Stoney, imagine what it was like when someone dumped the bilges ahead of
the
seawater intakes for the boilers.
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was not a pleasant next several weeks.
That would be putting it mildly.
How in the heck do you purge systems after something like that?
Damned if I know, it was not my department. I think they may have had the
idiot who originally dumped the bilges do the cleaning.
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Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
³Damn. Someone's been pissing in my genepool again.³-Kermit
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13 Feb 2005 09:05:33 AM |
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:32:54 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 09:33:16 -0600, stoney wrote
(in article <qvak01ditqgmal9b5jv8e6iuad8074of8e@4ax.com>):
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:05:45 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 11:21:23 -0600, stoney wrote
(in article <6iqh01lci3gbce0889ndod0p737hea1moi@4ax.com>):
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 02:56:12 GMT, wrote:
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 09:46:29 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 03:34:15 GMT, wrote:
snip
Food wasn't a problem. If you were going to be working through
evening chow the cooks would set aside a plate of food for you.
Last night I shuffled through some old pictures from the days I was on
the job and I swear I was skinny as a rail. I wouldn't have expected
these things you are talking about from the navy though.
Why was it like that?
Usually when a critical system like one of the fresh water evaporators
goes down. The water made from sea water is the purest stuff on the
planet-it has to be. First priority for the water is all four of the
ships 1200 psi boilers. The crew gets whatever is left over.
Stoney, imagine what it was like when someone dumped the bilges ahead of
the
seawater intakes for the boilers.
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was not a pleasant next several weeks.
That would be putting it mildly.
How in the heck do you purge systems after something like that?
Damned if I know, it was not my department. I think they may have had the
idiot who originally dumped the bilges do the cleaning.
Hehehehheehehehhe
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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01 Feb 2005 02:12:18 PM |
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On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 07:37:03 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <j1jov0p108tctmj95corlrvbpah13j7i0a@4ax.com>, atheist
lumbered into the room and mumbled:
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 15:18:13 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 08:35:18 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <jr3jv0936280k7tgjtm5dokah7bs98vsh5@4ax.com>,
atheist lumbered into the room and mumbled:
That's what I want to write about.
The true stuff that nobody will believe.
Heh. Reality actually is *much stranger than fiction. <g>
Didn't mean to go so long.
But it's your fault, suck it up ;-)
That's the sort of stuff I've been writing about the past few days.
Just idle thoughts that may or may not mean a damn thing. Stories I
think *should* be told.
Was it at all interesting?
Disturbing. But that doesn't mean it shouldn't be told. In fact, that
probably means it *should be...
I agree. You get your best stuff that way.
Strange to discover after all this time that all one has to do is write it
down.
Oh crap. That's what I've been forgetting to do the last week.
Lol!
I'm doing research now.
Books and internet.
Finally went to sleep last night.
<Sort of>
Man I hate being awake for days.
<G>
I may actually end up finishing something.
I may actually keep yelling at imaginary people until somebody carts me
off...
Lol!
There's a story there :-)
The other day I started channeling Stephen King.
<Can you channel a guy while he's still alive? :-)
I'm working on an outline of a horror story about a writer who starts
out in your circumstances but gets worse than <Hopefully> you do.
I'm going to try a book of short stories I think.
All horror.
Hell, go where the money is eh?
Hang in there :-)
atheist@home#1554
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02 Feb 2005 10:16:16 AM |
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On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 20:12:18 GMT, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 07:37:03 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <j1jov0p108tctmj95corlrvbpah13j7i0a@4ax.com>, atheist
lumbered into the room and mumbled:
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 15:18:13 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 08:35:18 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <jr3jv0936280k7tgjtm5dokah7bs98vsh5@4ax.com>,
atheist lumbered into the room and mumbled:
That's what I want to write about.
The true stuff that nobody will believe.
Heh. Reality actually is *much stranger than fiction. <g>
Didn't mean to go so long.
But it's your fault, suck it up ;-)
That's the sort of stuff I've been writing about the past few days.
Just idle thoughts that may or may not mean a damn thing. Stories I
think *should* be told.
Was it at all interesting?
Disturbing. But that doesn't mean it shouldn't be told. In fact, that
probably means it *should be...
I agree. You get your best stuff that way.
Strange to discover after all this time that all one has to do is write it
down.
Oh crap. That's what I've been forgetting to do the last week.
Lol!
I'm doing research now.
Books and internet.
Finally went to sleep last night.
<Sort of>
Man I hate being awake for days.
<G>
I may actually end up finishing something.
I may actually keep yelling at imaginary people until somebody carts me
off...
Lol!
There's a story there :-)
The other day I started channeling Stephen King.
<Can you channel a guy while he's still alive? :-)
I'm working on an outline of a horror story about a writer who starts
out in your circumstances but gets worse than <Hopefully> you do.
I'm going to try a book of short stories I think.
All horror.
Just write about what the Shrub administration's done......
(eyes dance)
Hell, go where the money is eh?
Hang in there :-)
atheist@home#1554
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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02 Feb 2005 04:07:59 PM |
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On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 08:16:16 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 20:12:18 GMT, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 07:37:03 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <j1jov0p108tctmj95corlrvbpah13j7i0a@4ax.com>, atheist
lumbered into the room and mumbled:
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 15:18:13 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 08:35:18 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <jr3jv0936280k7tgjtm5dokah7bs98vsh5@4ax.com>,
atheist lumbered into the room and mumbled:
That's what I want to write about.
The true stuff that nobody will believe.
Heh. Reality actually is *much stranger than fiction. <g>
Didn't mean to go so long.
But it's your fault, suck it up ;-)
That's the sort of stuff I've been writing about the past few days.
Just idle thoughts that may or may not mean a damn thing. Stories I
think *should* be told.
Was it at all interesting?
Disturbing. But that doesn't mean it shouldn't be told. In fact, that
probably means it *should be...
I agree. You get your best stuff that way.
Strange to discover after all this time that all one has to do is write it
down.
Oh crap. That's what I've been forgetting to do the last week.
Lol!
I'm doing research now.
Books and internet.
Finally went to sleep last night.
<Sort of>
Man I hate being awake for days.
<G>
I may actually end up finishing something.
I may actually keep yelling at imaginary people until somebody carts me
off...
Lol!
There's a story there :-)
The other day I started channeling Stephen King.
<Can you channel a guy while he's still alive? :-)
I'm working on an outline of a horror story about a writer who starts
out in your circumstances but gets worse than <Hopefully> you do.
I'm going to try a book of short stories I think.
All horror.
Just write about what the Shrub administration's done......
(eyes dance)
Lol!
You wouldn't like what I would write ;-)
<snip>
atheist@home#1554
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04 Feb 2005 10:08:50 AM |
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On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 22:07:59 GMT, wrote:
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 08:16:16 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 20:12:18 GMT, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 07:37:03 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <j1jov0p108tctmj95corlrvbpah13j7i0a@4ax.com>, atheist
lumbered into the room and mumbled:
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 15:18:13 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 08:35:18 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <jr3jv0936280k7tgjtm5dokah7bs98vsh5@4ax.com>,
atheist lumbered into the room and mumbled:
That's what I want to write about.
The true stuff that nobody will believe.
Heh. Reality actually is *much stranger than fiction. <g>
Didn't mean to go so long.
But it's your fault, suck it up ;-)
That's the sort of stuff I've been writing about the past few days.
Just idle thoughts that may or may not mean a damn thing. Stories I
think *should* be told.
Was it at all interesting?
Disturbing. But that doesn't mean it shouldn't be told. In fact, that
probably means it *should be...
I agree. You get your best stuff that way.
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