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"Mark K. Bilbo" |
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08 Jan 2005 09:03:49 PM |
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I've given birth! |
After four drafts and 120,000 words thrown in the trash. He's 59 chapters
long and weighs 82,300 words.
Now if I can just con a publisher into buying this sucker...
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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17 Jan 2005 04:45:51 PM |
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"Gary Bohn" <garybohn@REMOVETHISaccesscomm.ca> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
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"Gary Bohn" <garybohn@REMOVETHISaccesscomm.ca> wrote in message
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We computer geeks are too busy sticking our heads into the monitor to
actually take the time to be mean to people. You should be OK.
Cool! Glad to hear it. There was a particular arrogant ***** at my
old job with Sony and the thought of working for someone like him made
me want to vomit ;)
There are alway exceptions to the rule and ***** bosses of every type.
True, I know that all too well.
Good luck with the job.
Thanks, they've got my resume; hopefully I'll have an interview soon :)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
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| User: "Gary Bohn" |
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17 Jan 2005 10:31:36 PM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
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"Gary Bohn" <garybohn@REMOVETHISaccesscomm.ca> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
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"Gary Bohn" <garybohn@REMOVETHISaccesscomm.ca> wrote in message
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We computer geeks are too busy sticking our heads into the monitor
to actually take the time to be mean to people. You should be OK.
Cool! Glad to hear it. There was a particular arrogant ***** at
my old job with Sony and the thought of working for someone like him
made me want to vomit ;)
There are alway exceptions to the rule and ***** bosses of every
type.
True, I know that all too well.
Good luck with the job.
Thanks, they've got my resume; hopefully I'll have an interview soon
:)
Keep us posted.
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apatriot #23, aa #2179, Grand Poobah, EAC Department of Oxygen
Deprivation
Responsible for brain damage everywhere!
Gary Bohn
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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18 Jan 2005 06:31:43 AM |
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"Gary Bohn" <garybohn@REMOVETHISaccesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns95E1E529AB313GaryBohn@130.133.1.4...
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
news:352tgrF4i91luU1@individual.net:
"Gary Bohn" <garybohn@REMOVETHISaccesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns95E1A4C2B31AAGaryBohn@130.133.1.4...
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
news:350fqhF4b3vneU1@individual.net:
"Gary Bohn" <garybohn@REMOVETHISaccesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns95E0A1E5C6044GaryBohn@130.133.1.4...
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We computer geeks are too busy sticking our heads into the monitor
to actually take the time to be mean to people. You should be OK.
Cool! Glad to hear it. There was a particular arrogant ***** at
my old job with Sony and the thought of working for someone like him
made me want to vomit ;)
There are alway exceptions to the rule and ***** bosses of every
type.
True, I know that all too well.
Good luck with the job.
Thanks, they've got my resume; hopefully I'll have an interview soon
:)
Keep us posted.
No problem :)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "stoney" |
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18 Jan 2005 02:23:47 PM |
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:45:51 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Gary Bohn" <garybohn@REMOVETHISaccesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns95E1A4C2B31AAGaryBohn@130.133.1.4...
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
news:350fqhF4b3vneU1@individual.net:
"Gary Bohn" <garybohn@REMOVETHISaccesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns95E0A1E5C6044GaryBohn@130.133.1.4...
snip
We computer geeks are too busy sticking our heads into the monitor to
actually take the time to be mean to people. You should be OK.
Cool! Glad to hear it. There was a particular arrogant ***** at my
old job with Sony and the thought of working for someone like him made
me want to vomit ;)
There are alway exceptions to the rule and ***** bosses of every type.
True, I know that all too well.
Good luck with the job.
Thanks, they've got my resume; hopefully I'll have an interview soon :)
http://brawl-hall.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=1585
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "FreeThink" |
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17 Jan 2005 07:32:34 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"Gary Bohn" <garybohn@REMOVETHISaccesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns95E1A4C2B31AAGaryBohn@130.133.1.4...
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
news:350fqhF4b3vneU1@individual.net:
"Gary Bohn" <garybohn@REMOVETHISaccesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns95E0A1E5C6044GaryBohn@130.133.1.4...
snip
We computer geeks are too busy sticking our heads into the
monitor to
actually take the time to be mean to people. You should be OK.
Cool! Glad to hear it. There was a particular arrogant *****
at my
old job with Sony and the thought of working for someone like him
made
me want to vomit ;)
There are alway exceptions to the rule and ***** bosses of every
type.
True, I know that all too well.
Good luck with the job.
Thanks, they've got my resume; hopefully I'll have an interview soon
:)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
I call them ineffectual middle management suck-ups. :-)
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| User: "AngryJohn" |
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13 Jan 2005 07:59:41 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:01:39 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:PbydnVgfUIxXFHvcRVn-rA@megapath.net...
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This is hard to explain but experts "collapse" steps. They jump from A to
F because B, C, D, and E are just "obvious" to them. Part of the job of a
tech writer is prying those skipped steps out of them. If you don't at
least have *some idea of the "lay of the land," you can miss that. Not
even be aware there *are missing steps. I've seen far too many so-called
technical writers who know periods and commas and fonts but their
understanding of computers is they can log on to their AOL account! Whee!
(And that's the fault of ignorant IT managers who wouldn't know a "book"
if you hit them over the head with the collected works of Shakespeare.)
LOL, oh dear. And I'm going to be interviewing for a position on Monday
where I would be working for the head of an IT department.
As one who works at the end level with a lot of technical equipment it
would sure be nice if the companies went back to hiring professional
writers and putting out a good manual. I have to think that the time
they spend on the phone, not with some tech overseas, but when it
really hits the fan the engineer doing the design has got to cost
them. However, my company is the same way, So many times it is some
simple ***** thing like a box not checked, a file not created, has to be
done manually but nothing tells you that. I spend 2-3 days go around
and around until I get the real engineer on the phone and in 30
seconds he tells me what I need to know. The customers are the ones
that suffer the most, the people paying the bills, arghhhhhh!!!!!!!
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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13 Jan 2005 10:39:50 PM |
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In our last episode <s99eu0dkg1d7k9c91etrc4sqkcit48d4dl@4ax.com>,
AngryJohn lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:01:39 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:PbydnVgfUIxXFHvcRVn-rA@megapath.net...
snip
snip
This is hard to explain but experts "collapse" steps. They jump from A
to F because B, C, D, and E are just "obvious" to them. Part of the job
of a tech writer is prying those skipped steps out of them. If you
don't at least have *some idea of the "lay of the land," you can miss
that. Not even be aware there *are missing steps. I've seen far too
many so-called technical writers who know periods and commas and fonts
but their understanding of computers is they can log on to their AOL
account! Whee!
(And that's the fault of ignorant IT managers who wouldn't know a
"book" if you hit them over the head with the collected works of
Shakespeare.)
LOL, oh dear. And I'm going to be interviewing for a position on Monday
where I would be working for the head of an IT department.
As one who works at the end level with a lot of technical equipment it
would sure be nice if the companies went back to hiring professional
writers and putting out a good manual. I have to think that the time they
spend on the phone, not with some tech overseas, but when it really hits
the fan the engineer doing the design has got to cost them. However, my
company is the same way, So many times it is some simple ***** thing like a
box not checked, a file not created, has to be done manually but nothing
tells you that. I spend 2-3 days go around and around until I get the
real engineer on the phone and in 30 seconds he tells me what I need to
know. The customers are the ones that suffer the most, the people paying
the bills, arghhhhhh!!!!!!!
Last one I did, the main programmer on the project said the support calls
stopped. Went from people pestering him all the time to *one call. And
that one call was from a "computer consultant" who couldn't grasp the
concept that input and output files needed *different *names (she was
piping her output to her input files then wondering where the input file
went... some people, you just can't help).
But, we don't want to do that anymore. Let's ship everything to Banglore!
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "stoney" |
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14 Jan 2005 08:24:00 PM |
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:59:41 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode
<1105544433.519334.183070@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Iain lept out of
the bushes shouting:
[]
Now, if I get the big, serious novel finished, you won't be able to get me
to shut up. <G>
(That beast has haunted my life for over a decade. It's some 130,000 words
long now and it's maybe 2/3rds done. And it's been driving me *nuts* over
this plot problem I backed my fool self into and still don't know what
to do about.)
What's the prob and what solutions don't work?
[]
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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15 Jan 2005 08:31:04 AM |
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In our last episode <fkvgu0p2o5hqvoic7fb5bd4fvgbeb0odrg@4ax.com>, stoney
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:59:41 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode
<1105544433.519334.183070@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Iain lept out of
the bushes shouting:
[]
Now, if I get the big, serious novel finished, you won't be able to get
me to shut up. <G>
(That beast has haunted my life for over a decade. It's some 130,000
words long now and it's maybe 2/3rds done. And it's been driving me
*nuts* over this plot problem I backed my fool self into and still don't
know what to do about.)
What's the prob and what solutions don't work?
The damn plot. I backed myself into a corner.
Nothing works. Except I haven't tried the ultimate solution yet. Starting
over. Every time I think of that, I get hives. I must have written a good
quarter million words on that beast (of which only half survived).
<brrrr>
I'm just not going to think about it now. Probably next year I'll start at
page one and try again...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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15 Jan 2005 02:58:11 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:asednch88uuctXTcRVn-uQ@megapath.net...
In our last episode <fkvgu0p2o5hqvoic7fb5bd4fvgbeb0odrg@4ax.com>, stoney
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:59:41 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode
<1105544433.519334.183070@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Iain lept out
of
the bushes shouting:
[]
Now, if I get the big, serious novel finished, you won't be able to get
me to shut up. <G>
(That beast has haunted my life for over a decade. It's some 130,000
words long now and it's maybe 2/3rds done. And it's been driving me
*nuts* over this plot problem I backed my fool self into and still don't
know what to do about.)
What's the prob and what solutions don't work?
The damn plot. I backed myself into a corner.
Nothing works. Except I haven't tried the ultimate solution yet. Starting
over. Every time I think of that, I get hives. I must have written a good
quarter million words on that beast (of which only half survived).
<brrrr>
I'm just not going to think about it now. Probably next year I'll start at
page one and try again...
This sounds like a story I insisted on writing from one
characters' viewpoint. I tried it twice, getting even further
into the story the second time before giving up. One of
the other characters kept yelling in my head that HIS
was the proper viewpoint. He was right. The third time,
I wrote it from his viewpoint and it worked like a charm.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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15 Jan 2005 03:22:02 PM |
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In our last episode <SJKdnbpaT-dAHnTcRVn-1w@comcast.com>, Michelle Malkin
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:asednch88uuctXTcRVn-uQ@megapath.net...
In our last episode <fkvgu0p2o5hqvoic7fb5bd4fvgbeb0odrg@4ax.com>, stoney
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:59:41 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode
<1105544433.519334.183070@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Iain lept out
of
the bushes shouting:
[]
Now, if I get the big, serious novel finished, you won't be able to
get me to shut up. <G>
(That beast has haunted my life for over a decade. It's some 130,000
words long now and it's maybe 2/3rds done. And it's been driving me
*nuts* over this plot problem I backed my fool self into and still
don't know what to do about.)
What's the prob and what solutions don't work?
The damn plot. I backed myself into a corner.
Nothing works. Except I haven't tried the ultimate solution yet.
Starting over. Every time I think of that, I get hives. I must have
written a good quarter million words on that beast (of which only half
survived).
<brrrr>
I'm just not going to think about it now. Probably next year I'll start
at page one and try again...
This sounds like a story I insisted on writing from one characters'
viewpoint. I tried it twice, getting even further into the story the
second time before giving up. One of the other characters kept yelling in
my head that HIS was the proper viewpoint. He was right. The third time, I
wrote it from his viewpoint and it worked like a charm.
They get uppity don't they? Part of the problem with the big novel is a
secondary character took over as the main character.
But he always been pushy...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "FreeThink" |
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17 Jan 2005 04:41:51 PM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode <fkvgu0p2o5hqvoic7fb5bd4fvgbeb0odrg@4ax.com>,
stoney
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:59:41 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode
<1105544433.519334.183070@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Iain lept
out of
the bushes shouting:
[]
Now, if I get the big, serious novel finished, you won't be able to
get
me to shut up. <G>
(That beast has haunted my life for over a decade. It's some
130,000
words long now and it's maybe 2/3rds done. And it's been driving me
*nuts* over this plot problem I backed my fool self into and still
don't
know what to do about.)
What's the prob and what solutions don't work?
The damn plot. I backed myself into a corner.
Nothing works. Except I haven't tried the ultimate solution yet.
Starting
over. Every time I think of that, I get hives. I must have written a
good
quarter million words on that beast (of which only half survived).
<brrrr>
I'm just not going to think about it now. Probably next year I'll
start at
page one and try again...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
How much resolution are you trying for? How much is required to convey
what your going for? Maybe you don't need to make it that neat.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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17 Jan 2005 07:42:35 PM |
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In our last episode
<1106001711.726620.77300@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, FreeThink lept out
of the bushes shouting:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode <fkvgu0p2o5hqvoic7fb5bd4fvgbeb0odrg@4ax.com>,
stoney
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:59:41 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode
<1105544433.519334.183070@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Iain lept
out of
the bushes shouting:
[]
Now, if I get the big, serious novel finished, you won't be able to
get
me to shut up. <G>
(That beast has haunted my life for over a decade. It's some
130,000
words long now and it's maybe 2/3rds done. And it's been driving me
*nuts* over this plot problem I backed my fool self into and still
don't
know what to do about.)
What's the prob and what solutions don't work?
The damn plot. I backed myself into a corner.
Nothing works. Except I haven't tried the ultimate solution yet.
Starting
over. Every time I think of that, I get hives. I must have written a
good
quarter million words on that beast (of which only half survived).
<brrrr>
I'm just not going to think about it now. Probably next year I'll
start at
page one and try again...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion Alt-atheism website at:
http://www.alt-atheism.org
----------------------------------------------------------- "Religion is
regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." -- Seneca the
Younger
How much resolution are you trying for? How much is required to convey
what your going for? Maybe you don't need to make it that neat.
I'll worry about that next year...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "FreeThink" |
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17 Jan 2005 07:39:37 PM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode
<1106001711.726620.77300@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, FreeThink
lept out
of the bushes shouting:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode <fkvgu0p2o5hqvoic7fb5bd4fvgbeb0odrg@4ax.com>,
stoney
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:59:41 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode
<1105544433.519334.183070@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Iain
lept
out of
the bushes shouting:
[]
Now, if I get the big, serious novel finished, you won't be able
to
get
me to shut up. <G>
(That beast has haunted my life for over a decade. It's some
130,000
words long now and it's maybe 2/3rds done. And it's been driving
me
*nuts* over this plot problem I backed my fool self into and
still
don't
know what to do about.)
What's the prob and what solutions don't work?
The damn plot. I backed myself into a corner.
Nothing works. Except I haven't tried the ultimate solution yet.
Starting
over. Every time I think of that, I get hives. I must have written
a
good
quarter million words on that beast (of which only half survived).
<brrrr>
I'm just not going to think about it now. Probably next year I'll
start at
page one and try again...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion Alt-atheism website at:
http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is
regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." -- Seneca the
Younger
How much resolution are you trying for? How much is required to
convey
what your going for? Maybe you don't need to make it that neat.
I'll worry about that next year...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
That works too....
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| User: "Kevin Anthoney" |
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15 Jan 2005 08:31:17 AM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode <fkvgu0p2o5hqvoic7fb5bd4fvgbeb0odrg@4ax.com>, stoney
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:59:41 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode
<1105544433.519334.183070@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Iain lept out of
the bushes shouting:
[]
Now, if I get the big, serious novel finished, you won't be able to get
me to shut up. <G>
(That beast has haunted my life for over a decade. It's some 130,000
words long now and it's maybe 2/3rds done. And it's been driving me
*nuts* over this plot problem I backed my fool self into and still don't
know what to do about.)
What's the prob and what solutions don't work?
The damn plot. I backed myself into a corner.
Nothing works. Except I haven't tried the ultimate solution yet. Starting
over. Every time I think of that, I get hives. I must have written a good
quarter million words on that beast (of which only half survived).
Pity the Infinite Improbability Drive has already been done.
<brrrr>
I'm just not going to think about it now. Probably next year I'll start at
page one and try again...
--
Kevin Anthoney
kanthoney[a]dsl.pipex.com
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16 Jan 2005 07:43:46 PM |
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 08:31:04 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <fkvgu0p2o5hqvoic7fb5bd4fvgbeb0odrg@4ax.com>, stoney
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:59:41 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode
<1105544433.519334.183070@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Iain lept out of
the bushes shouting:
[]
Now, if I get the big, serious novel finished, you won't be able to get
me to shut up. <G>
(That beast has haunted my life for over a decade. It's some 130,000
words long now and it's maybe 2/3rds done. And it's been driving me
*nuts* over this plot problem I backed my fool self into and still don't
know what to do about.)
What's the prob and what solutions don't work?
The damn plot. I backed myself into a corner.
Nothing works. Except I haven't tried the ultimate solution yet. Starting
over. Every time I think of that, I get hives. I must have written a good
quarter million words on that beast (of which only half survived).
<brrrr>
I'm just not going to think about it now. Probably next year I'll start at
page one and try again...
I was thinking possibly one of us might be able to see a solution you
don't.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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16 Jan 2005 09:46:51 PM |
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In our last episode <h16mu05m7dfdqo5cc20d64svobuu8294or@4ax.com>, stoney
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 08:31:04 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <fkvgu0p2o5hqvoic7fb5bd4fvgbeb0odrg@4ax.com>, stoney
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:59:41 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode
<1105544433.519334.183070@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Iain lept out
of the bushes shouting:
[]
Now, if I get the big, serious novel finished, you won't be able to get
me to shut up. <G>
(That beast has haunted my life for over a decade. It's some 130,000
words long now and it's maybe 2/3rds done. And it's been driving me
*nuts* over this plot problem I backed my fool self into and still
don't know what to do about.)
What's the prob and what solutions don't work?
The damn plot. I backed myself into a corner.
Nothing works. Except I haven't tried the ultimate solution yet. Starting
over. Every time I think of that, I get hives. I must have written a good
quarter million words on that beast (of which only half survived).
<brrrr>
I'm just not going to think about it now. Probably next year I'll start
at page one and try again...
I was thinking possibly one of us might be able to see a solution you
don't.
Oh that one's complicated. I don't even want to think about it this year.
If I'm going to pull this jump to fiction off, I've got to get three,
maybe four of the easier things done and circulating around publishers.
And *hopefully something will sell. I couldn't even begin to think about
taking time for the big novel before next year. Too big, too time
consuming, too speculative (not to mention the hardest thing I've ever
written).
So I can't even seen getting back to the big one before next year.
Especially now that I found an idea right here in the ng for the sequel to
the one I just finished...
(I'm hoping that little book doesn't just find a home but turns into a
series)
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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13 Jan 2005 07:51:55 PM |
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:25:03 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <r818u0lq5dorq245qd7200490c8f3d166s@4ax.com>, stoney
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:03:49 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
After four drafts and 120,000 words thrown in the trash. He's 59 chapters
long and weighs 82,300 words.
Now if I can just con a publisher into buying this sucker...
Nicely done.
Hopefully somebody with cash will say that. <G>
There is that.....
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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13 Jan 2005 09:54:26 PM |
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In our last episode <hd9eu0562va38vduv8n11pdmjashomm5gj@4ax.com>, stoney
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:25:03 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <r818u0lq5dorq245qd7200490c8f3d166s@4ax.com>, stoney
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:03:49 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
After four drafts and 120,000 words thrown in the trash. He's 59
chapters long and weighs 82,300 words.
Now if I can just con a publisher into buying this sucker...
Nicely done.
Hopefully somebody with cash will say that. <G>
There is that.....
I just want them to make me rich. Is that so much to ask?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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13 Jan 2005 10:38:08 PM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode <hd9eu0562va38vduv8n11pdmjashomm5gj@4ax.com>,
stoney
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:25:03 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <r818u0lq5dorq245qd7200490c8f3d166s@4ax.com>,
stoney
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:03:49 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
After four drafts and 120,000 words thrown in the trash. He's 59
chapters long and weighs 82,300 words.
Now if I can just con a publisher into buying this sucker...
Nicely done.
Hopefully somebody with cash will say that. <G>
There is that.....
I just want them to make me rich. Is that so much to ask?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
That depends on where you live.
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| User: "stoney" |
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14 Jan 2005 08:21:36 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:54:26 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <hd9eu0562va38vduv8n11pdmjashomm5gj@4ax.com>, stoney
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:25:03 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <r818u0lq5dorq245qd7200490c8f3d166s@4ax.com>, stoney
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:03:49 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
After four drafts and 120,000 words thrown in the trash. He's 59
chapters long and weighs 82,300 words.
Now if I can just con a publisher into buying this sucker...
Nicely done.
Hopefully somebody with cash will say that. <G>
There is that.....
I just want them to make me rich. Is that so much to ask?
Yes.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Eris" |
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08 Jan 2005 09:05:18 PM |
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On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:03:49 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
After four drafts and 120,000 words thrown in the trash. He's 59 chapters
long and weighs 82,300 words.
Now if I can just con a publisher into buying this sucker...
What is his name, and birth weight?
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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08 Jan 2005 11:40:56 PM |
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In our last episode <qq71u0puonvr5n7rt12d1l7320nug9lkah@4ax.com>, Eris
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:03:49 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
After four drafts and 120,000 words thrown in the trash. He's 59 chapters
long and weighs 82,300 words.
Now if I can just con a publisher into buying this sucker...
What is his name, and birth weight?
I have to take the fifth on the grounds that I'm aiming at a quick sale
and so it's... well, let's just say the pages are all *sticky.
I'm blaming this one on my pen name...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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09 Jan 2005 03:02:24 AM |
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On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:40:56 -0600 in alt.atheism, Mark K. Bilbo
("Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster>) said, directing the
reply to alt.atheism
In our last episode <qq71u0puonvr5n7rt12d1l7320nug9lkah@4ax.com>, Eris
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:03:49 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
After four drafts and 120,000 words thrown in the trash. He's 59 chapters
long and weighs 82,300 words.
Now if I can just con a publisher into buying this sucker...
What is his name, and birth weight?
I have to take the fifth on the grounds that I'm aiming at a quick sale
and so it's... well, let's just say the pages are all *sticky.
I'm blaming this one on my pen name...
Well, a pen is, man's greatest weapon! Congratulations.
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| User: "Kevin Anthoney" |
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09 Jan 2005 06:20:06 AM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode <qq71u0puonvr5n7rt12d1l7320nug9lkah@4ax.com>, Eris
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:03:49 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
After four drafts and 120,000 words thrown in the trash. He's 59 chapters
long and weighs 82,300 words.
Now if I can just con a publisher into buying this sucker...
What is his name, and birth weight?
I have to take the fifth on the grounds that I'm aiming at a quick sale
and so it's... well, let's just say the pages are all *sticky.
I take it the family won't be getting an advance copy then?
I'm blaming this one on my pen name...
--
Kevin Anthoney
kanthoney[a]dsl.pipex.com
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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09 Jan 2005 07:16:27 AM |
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In our last episode <9061d$41e1225c$51569c09$16606@nf1.news-service.com>,
Kevin Anthoney lept out of the bushes shouting:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode <qq71u0puonvr5n7rt12d1l7320nug9lkah@4ax.com>, Eris
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:03:49 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
After four drafts and 120,000 words thrown in the trash. He's 59
chapters long and weighs 82,300 words.
Now if I can just con a publisher into buying this sucker...
What is his name, and birth weight?
I have to take the fifth on the grounds that I'm aiming at a quick sale
and so it's... well, let's just say the pages are all *sticky.
I take it the family won't be getting an advance copy then?
It's not something you want mom reading.
(Or if she does, I do *not wanna know)
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "Lisbeth Andersson" |
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13 Jan 2005 04:33:21 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> skrev i meddelandet
news:fuWdnXVzy6ALsHzcRVn-2g@megapath.net...
In our last episode <9061d$41e1225c$51569c09$16606@nf1.news-service.com>,
Kevin Anthoney lept out of the bushes shouting:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode <qq71u0puonvr5n7rt12d1l7320nug9lkah@4ax.com>, Eris
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:03:49 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
After four drafts and 120,000 words thrown in the trash. He's 59
chapters long and weighs 82,300 words.
Now if I can just con a publisher into buying this sucker...
What is his name, and birth weight?
I have to take the fifth on the grounds that I'm aiming at a quick sale
and so it's... well, let's just say the pages are all *sticky.
I take it the family won't be getting an advance copy then?
It's not something you want mom reading.
(Or if she does, I do *not wanna know)
Congratulations.
I hope you let us know when it gets published. If you still don't want to be
associated with it
at that stage you can always post something along the lines "I came across
this sticky book
about a gay detective with a really werid twist at the end. It's called
.........., by author BK Mark.
Has anybody else read it?". After the above ad I'm sure many of us would buy
the book.
Lisbeth
--
The day I don't learn anything new is the day I die.
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13 Jan 2005 08:58:20 PM |
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In our last episode <34ob9oF4c18m9U1@individual.net>, Lisbeth Andersson
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> skrev i meddelandet
news:fuWdnXVzy6ALsHzcRVn-2g@megapath.net...
In our last episode
<9061d$41e1225c$51569c09$16606@nf1.news-service.com>, Kevin Anthoney
lept out of the bushes shouting:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode <qq71u0puonvr5n7rt12d1l7320nug9lkah@4ax.com>, Eris
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:03:49 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
After four drafts and 120,000 words thrown in the trash. He's 59
chapters long and weighs 82,300 words.
Now if I can just con a publisher into buying this sucker...
What is his name, and birth weight?
I have to take the fifth on the grounds that I'm aiming at a quick
sale and so it's... well, let's just say the pages are all *sticky.
I take it the family won't be getting an advance copy then?
It's not something you want mom reading.
(Or if she does, I do *not wanna know)
Congratulations.
I hope you let us know when it gets published. If you still don't want to
be associated with it
at that stage you can always post something along the lines "I came across
this sticky book
about a gay detective with a really werid twist at the end. It's called
........., by author BK Mark.
Has anybody else read it?". After the above ad I'm sure many of us would
buy the book.
Hm... I suspect that might be a bit transparent. <g>
Now, if "Down on the Rez" is ever published, nobody'll be able to shut me
up...
(That's my "great American novel"... everybody's gotta try once...)
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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13 Jan 2005 07:48:07 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:33:21 +0100, "Lisbeth Andersson"
<lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> skrev i meddelandet
news:fuWdnXVzy6ALsHzcRVn-2g@megapath.net...
In our last episode <9061d$41e1225c$51569c09$16606@nf1.news-service.com>,
Kevin Anthoney lept out of the bushes shouting:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode <qq71u0puonvr5n7rt12d1l7320nug9lkah@4ax.com>, Eris
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:03:49 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
After four drafts and 120,000 words thrown in the trash. He's 59
chapters long and weighs 82,300 words.
Now if I can just con a publisher into buying this sucker...
What is his name, and birth weight?
I have to take the fifth on the grounds that I'm aiming at a quick sale
and so it's... well, let's just say the pages are all *sticky.
I take it the family won't be getting an advance copy then?
It's not something you want mom reading.
(Or if she does, I do *not wanna know)
Congratulations.
I hope you let us know when it gets published. If you still don't want to be
associated with it
at that stage you can always post something along the lines "I came across
this sticky book
about a gay detective with a really werid twist at the end. It's called
........., by author BK Mark.
Has anybody else read it?". After the above ad I'm sure many of us would buy
the book.
Lisbeth
I would buy it just because Mark wrote it but reading it, well, not
exactly my thing. I do buy all my nieces books when they are
published even though we always receive an advance copy. Matter of
fact we got the last one, the one coming out soon, a year in advance,
so we have one of the 50 copies of the first draft, autographed, with
a dedication t my kids, blah blah blah..........
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aa#2106
Remove Belief to reply
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| User: "Gary Bohn" |
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09 Jan 2005 02:16:03 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:fuWdnXVzy6ALsHzcRVn-2g@megapath.net:
In our last episode
<9061d$41e1225c$51569c09$16606@nf1.news-service.com>, Kevin Anthoney
lept out of the bushes shouting:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode <qq71u0puonvr5n7rt12d1l7320nug9lkah@4ax.com>,
Eris lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:03:49 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
After four drafts and 120,000 words thrown in the trash. He's 59
chapters long and weighs 82,300 words.
Now if I can just con a publisher into buying this sucker...
What is his name, and birth weight?
I have to take the fifth on the grounds that I'm aiming at a quick
sale and so it's... well, let's just say the pages are all *sticky.
I take it the family won't be getting an advance copy then?
It's not something you want mom reading.
(Or if she does, I do *not wanna know)
The family he was referring to, unless I miss my guess, is a.a.
How about a juicy teaser, 4 or 5 pages maybe?
--
apatriot #23, aa #1779, Grand Poobah (Pubbah)(Hell! head honcho), EAC
Department of Oxygen Deprivation Responsible for brain damage
everywhere!
Gary Bohn
Conservatism is the political philosophy that it ain't broke so don't
try to fix it. Therefore, if that is indeed how it is, that is what
ought to be.
The Wilkins
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