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Topic:	Religions > Atheism
User:	"Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"
Date:	15 Aug 2006 01:39:21 AM
Object:	J Young Christian Morality: 17 YO Man SHOOTS Man Because He Was Gay (Praise Jesus! Kill the Gays!)

Yep, that vaunted Christian morality
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060808/NEWS99/60808027
A 17-year-old Detroiter convicted of shooting a Windsor man for being
gay will spend up to 12 years in prison, a Wayne County Circuit Court
judge ruled today.
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User: "John D.Wentzky"
Title: Re: J Young Christian Morality: 17 YO Man SHOOTS Man Because He Was Gay (Praise Jesus! Kill the Gays!)	15 Aug 2006 07:51:21 AM

"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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You think being religious or sexual orientation are somehow things that the
law discriminates on the basis of, huh?
Is the charge that this person shot a gay man?
Gay has nothing to do with it in the eyes of the law.
When will you learn that being gay is not a defense in court?
Since you want non-discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, we can
not rule concerning your sexual orientation.
Gay means nothing to the law.

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EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division

The Bush 'balanced' budget: 2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and
counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2600 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting

Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless

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User: "Mark Sebree"
Title: Re: J Young Christian Morality: 17 YO Man SHOOTS Man Because He Was Gay (Praise Jesus! Kill the Gays!)	15 Aug 2006 11:00:06 AM

John D.Wentzky wrote:

"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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You think being religious or sexual orientation are somehow things that the
law discriminates on the basis of, huh?

Being homosexual is. They are not afforded as many rights as
heterosexuals.

Is the charge that this person shot a gay man?

No, the charge is that the person shot another because victim was gay,
which means that a hate crime rider is attached to the charge, and thus
a stiffer penalty can be given.

Gay has nothing to do with it in the eyes of the law.

It does, however, have something to do with the charge levied and the
sentence that can be given.

When will you learn that being gay is not a defense in court?

Never claimed that it was. The assailant is not claiming that he is
homosexual, after all. Therefore, there is no reason to try to use his
homosexuality as part of his defense, especially since he is probably
not homosexual.

Since you want non-discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, we can
not rule concerning your sexual orientation.

His orientation is not at issue here, nor is the victims. What is at
issue is why the assailant shot the victim. And the only apparent
reason seem to be because the assailant thought the victim was a
homosexual. That is why the hate crime rider was added to the charge.

Gay means nothing to the law.

It does with respect to some laws, which is why homosexuals are treated
as second class citizens with reduced rights.
Your entire post shows that you are trying to blame the victim. The
victim needs no defense. The assailant does.
Mark Sebree

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EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division

User: "John D.Wentzky"
Title: Re: J Young Christian Morality: 17 YO Man SHOOTS Man Because He Was Gay (Praise Jesus! Kill the Gays!)	15 Aug 2006 01:35:58 PM

"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
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John D.Wentzky wrote:

"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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You think being religious or sexual orientation are somehow things that
the
law discriminates on the basis of, huh?

Being homosexual is.

You mean people can attack homosexuals without fear of prosecution?
Can you stay on topic this time?
Are you doing that moving the goal posts thing again?

They are not afforded as many rights as
heterosexuals.

Irrelevant to this post.

Is the charge that this person shot a gay man?

No, the charge is that the person shot another because victim was gay,

Irrelevant to the act itself.

which means that a hate crime rider is attached to the charge,

That is an error in judgement.
There is no right to discriminate against persons who shoot gays or who
shoot straights via hate crime statutes.
You are showing me discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation in law.
PERIOD!

and thus
a stiffer penalty can be given.

Wrong. You are in violation of Civil Rights Law with that discriminatory
idea.
You are discriminating on the basis of sexual orientation with that idea.
You are acting as if gays are entitled to more protections than other
persons.
You are amiss.
You are acting unfairly.

Gay has nothing to do with it in the eyes of the law.

It does, however, have something to do with the charge levied and the
sentence that can be given.

Error. You do not like being discriminated against because of gayness means
you can not be discriminated for because of gayness.

When will you learn that being gay is not a defense in court?

Never claimed that it was.

You are acting that way.
You claim that a hate crime rider can be attached based on the fact that a
gay person was attacked.
That is discrimination.

The assailant is not claiming that he is homosexual, after all.

Why would that matter to you? And, why shouldn't he since you are so adamant
in defending homosexuality.

Therefore, there is no reason to try to use his homosexuality as part of
his defense, especially since he is probably
not homosexual.

Now you are acting as if sexual orientation can be used as a defense.
You are acting like you like no one other than gays.
Why do you think being homosexual would be a defense?

Since you want non-discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, we
can
not rule concerning your sexual orientation.

His orientation is not at issue here, nor is the victims.

When will you stop considering it then?

What is at issue is why the assailant shot the victim.

So, why worry about if the victim or assailiant were gay or not?

And the only apparent reason seem to be because the assailant thought the
victim was a
homosexual.

That is not apparent.

That is why the hate crime rider was added to the charge.

Error in judgment.
That is discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.
That is illegal.

Gay means nothing to the law.

It does with respect to some laws, which is why homosexuals are treated
as second class citizens with reduced rights.

Error. In this case, the hate crime rider exalts gays above other citizens.
You are in error and that law is in error.

Your entire post shows that you are trying to blame the victim.

Again, you are in error. I was not trying to blame the victim,
discriminator.

The victim needs no defense.

How do you know?
It is possible that the victim will be charged with inciting a riot or
disturbing the peace or some such other transgression of the law(s).

The assailant does.

So, when will you begin to look for something for the benefit of the
assailant if his legal rights were violated by the gay person instead of
discriminating against him in law on the basis of sexual orientation?

Mark Sebree

User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"
Title: Re: J Young Christian Morality: 17 YO Man SHOOTS Man Because He Was Gay (Praise Jesus! Kill the Gays!)	16 Aug 2006 01:30:40 AM

On 15 Aug 2006 09:00:06 -0700, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
wrote:

John D.Wentzky wrote:

"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:c6n2e217k4nhnv2a4q0jhghd3kspo4udoh@4ax.com...

You think being religious or sexual orientation are somehow things that the
law discriminates on the basis of, huh?

Being homosexual is. They are not afforded as many rights as
heterosexuals.

Wentzky is a moron.

Is the charge that this person shot a gay man?

No, the charge is that the person shot another because victim was gay,
which means that a hate crime rider is attached to the charge, and thus
a stiffer penalty can be given.

Gay has nothing to do with it in the eyes of the law.

It does, however, have something to do with the charge levied and the
sentence that can be given.

When will you learn that being gay is not a defense in court?

Since you want non-discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, we can
not rule concerning your sexual orientation.

Gay means nothing to the law.

It does with respect to some laws, which is why homosexuals are treated
as second class citizens with reduced rights.

Your entire post shows that you are trying to blame the victim. The
victim needs no defense. The assailant does.

Mark Sebree

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EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division

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EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 2 trillion and worsening
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The Bush Iraq lie: -2603 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
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User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"
Title: Re: J Young Christian Morality: 17 YO Man SHOOTS Man Because He Was Gay (Praise Jesus! Kill the Gays!)	15 Aug 2006 09:38:46 AM

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:51:21 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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You think being religious or sexual orientation are somehow things that the
law discriminates on the basis of, huh?

You Christians think that's it's okay to make gays second class
citizen.

Is the charge that this person shot a gay man?
Gay has nothing to do with it in the eyes of the law.
When will you learn that being gay is not a defense in court?
Since you want non-discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, we can
not rule concerning your sexual orientation.
Gay means nothing to the law.

-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2600 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
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User: "John D.Wentzky"
Title: Re: J Young Christian Morality: 17 YO Man SHOOTS Man Because He Was Gay (Praise Jesus! Kill the Gays!)	15 Aug 2006 10:08:10 AM

"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:51:21 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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You think being religious or sexual orientation are somehow things that
the
law discriminates on the basis of, huh?

You Christians think that's it's okay to make gays second class
citizen.

Error.
The law is not concerned about your sexual orientation.

Is the charge that this person shot a gay man?
Gay has nothing to do with it in the eyes of the law.
When will you learn that being gay is not a defense in court?
Since you want non-discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, we
can
not rule concerning your sexual orientation.
Gay means nothing to the law.

User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"
Title: Re: J Young Christian Morality: 17 YO Man SHOOTS Man Because He Was Gay (Praise Jesus! Kill the Gays!)	15 Aug 2006 10:30:14 AM

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:08:10 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:51:21 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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You think being religious or sexual orientation are somehow things that
the
law discriminates on the basis of, huh?

You Christians think that's it's okay to make gays second class
citizen.

Error.

You mean like this, pedophile enabler?
PANAMA CITY, FL (AP) -- A former Roman Catholic priest convicted
of sending pornographic images to a sheriff's investigator posing
as a teenage boy has received the maximum sentence of 10 years in
prison.

The law is not concerned about your sexual orientation.

Is the charge that this person shot a gay man?
Gay has nothing to do with it in the eyes of the law.
When will you learn that being gay is not a defense in court?
Since you want non-discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, we
can
not rule concerning your sexual orientation.
Gay means nothing to the law.

-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2600 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
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User: "John D.Wentzky"
Title: Re: J Young Christian Morality: 17 YO Man SHOOTS Man Because He Was Gay (Praise Jesus! Kill the Gays!)	15 Aug 2006 11:02:36 AM

"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:08:10 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:51:21 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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You think being religious or sexual orientation are somehow things that
the
law discriminates on the basis of, huh?

You Christians think that's it's okay to make gays second class
citizen.

Error.

You mean like this, pedophile enabler?

No. I mean like this: YOU ARE IN ERROR!

PANAMA CITY, FL (AP) -- A former Roman Catholic priest convicted
of sending pornographic images to a sheriff's investigator posing
as a teenage boy has received the maximum sentence of 10 years in
prison.

Now, the real question hits home:
Is this LYING COP GAY?

The law is not concerned about your sexual orientation.

Is the charge that this person shot a gay man?
Gay has nothing to do with it in the eyes of the law.
When will you learn that being gay is not a defense in court?
Since you want non-discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, we
can
not rule concerning your sexual orientation.
Gay means nothing to the law.

-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division

The Bush 'balanced' budget: 2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and
counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2600 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and
mounting

Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless

-----
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User: "Tak_a#344"
Title: Re: J Young Christian Morality: 17 YO Man SHOOTS Man Because He Was Gay (Praise Jesus! Kill the Gays!)	15 Aug 2006 11:54:01 AM

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:02:36 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"

YOU ARE IN ERROR! I am Nomad! I am perfect!

I Thought I'd heard that line before!
.

User: "John D.Wentzky"
Title: Re: J Young Christian Morality: 17 YO Man SHOOTS Man Because He Was Gay (Praise Jesus! Kill the Gays!)	15 Aug 2006 01:23:44 PM

"Tak_a#344" <not@anadressyouass.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:02:36 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"

YOU ARE IN ERROR! I am Nomad! I am perfect!

I Thought I'd heard that line before!

Fascinating!
LOL!
.

User: "John D.Wentzky"
Title: Re: J Young Christian Morality: 17 YO Man SHOOTS Man Because He Was Gay (Praise Jesus! Kill the Gays!)	15 Aug 2006 01:24:14 PM

"Tak_a#344" <not@anadressyouass.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:02:36 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"

YOU ARE IN ERROR! I am Nomad! I am perfect!

I Thought I'd heard that line before!

Ok.
Do you need the pod bay doors open, Tak?
.

User: "Tak_a#344"
Title: Re: J Young Christian Morality: 17 YO Man SHOOTS Man Because He Was Gay (Praise Jesus! Kill the Gays!)	15 Aug 2006 01:31:47 PM

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:24:14 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Tak_a#344" <not@anadressyouass.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:02:36 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"

YOU ARE IN ERROR! I am Nomad! I am perfect!

I Thought I'd heard that line before!

Ok.
Do you need the pod bay doors open, Tak?

No, but I would like to hear you sing your song.
Tak
a#344
.

User: "John D.Wentzky"
Title: Re: J Young Christian Morality: 17 YO Man SHOOTS Man Because He Was Gay (Praise Jesus! Kill the Gays!)	15 Aug 2006 04:07:41 PM

"Tak_a#344" <not@anadressyouass.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:24:14 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Tak_a#344" <not@anadressyouass.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:02:36 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"

YOU ARE IN ERROR! I am Nomad! I am perfect!

I Thought I'd heard that line before!

Ok.
Do you need the pod bay doors open, Tak?

No, but I would like to hear you sing your song.

Do you mean where nomad self-destructed?

Tak
a#344

User: "Tak_a#344"
Title: Re: J Young Christian Morality: 17 YO Man SHOOTS Man Because He Was Gay (Praise Jesus! Kill the Gays!)	15 Aug 2006 06:42:00 PM

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 17:07:41 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Tak_a#344" <not@anadressyouass.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:24:14 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Tak_a#344" <not@anadressyouass.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:02:36 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"

YOU ARE IN ERROR! I am Nomad! I am perfect!

I Thought I'd heard that line before!

Ok.
Do you need the pod bay doors open, Tak?

No, but I would like to hear you sing your song.

Do you mean where nomad self-destructed?

More like when H.A.L. who you just made refference to, started
singing before David Bowman shut down his addled brain.
Tak
a#344

.

User: "John D.Wentzky"
Title: Re: J Young Christian Morality: 17 YO Man SHOOTS Man Because He Was Gay (Praise Jesus! Kill the Gays!)	15 Aug 2006 08:46:46 PM

"Tak_a#344" <not@anadressyouass.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 17:07:41 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Tak_a#344" <not@anadressyouass.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:24:14 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Tak_a#344" <not@anadressyouass.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:02:36 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"

YOU ARE IN ERROR! I am Nomad! I am perfect!

I Thought I'd heard that line before!

Ok.
Do you need the pod bay doors open, Tak?

No, but I would like to hear you sing your song.

Do you mean where nomad self-destructed?

More like when H.A.L. who you just made refference to, started
singing before David Bowman shut down his addled brain.

Hmm. "What are you doing, Dave."
I seem to have forgotten any song.

Tak
a#344

User: "Bud D. Green"
Title: Re: J Young Christian Morality: 17 YO Man SHOOTS Man Because He Was Gay (Praise Jesus! Kill the Gays!)	16 Aug 2006 10:31:45 PM

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:51:21 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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You think being religious or sexual orientation are somehow things that the
law discriminates on the basis of, huh?

He didn't say "being religious or sexual orientation are somehow
things that the law discriminates on the basis of".

Is the charge that this person shot a gay man?
Gay has nothing to do with it in the eyes of the law.

Apparently and according to the story the victim was shot "for being
gay".

When will you learn that being gay is not a defense in court?

The victim is not required to defend himself in court, fuckwit.

Since you want non-discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, we can
not rule concerning your sexual orientation.
Gay means nothing to the law.

You're trolling _because_ the victim is gay and you hate gays.
.

User: "John D.Wentzky"
Title: Re: J Young Christian Morality: 17 YO Man SHOOTS Man Because He Was Gay (Praise Jesus! Kill the Gays!)	17 Aug 2006 05:02:46 AM

"Bud D. Green" <none@given.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:51:21 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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You think being religious or sexual orientation are somehow things that
the
law discriminates on the basis of, huh?

He didn't say "being religious or sexual orientation are somehow
things that the law discriminates on the basis of".

Is the charge that this person shot a gay man?
Gay has nothing to do with it in the eyes of the law.

Apparently and according to the story the victim was shot "for being
gay".

Where is the proof of that?
I see zero proof of that accusation.

When will you learn that being gay is not a defense in court?

The victim is not required to defend himself in court, fuckwit.

Who said he was?
The other thing is the perpetrator is not supposed to be subject to some
***** hate crime which protects gays above other persons.
Gay is a non-issue in this case.
Gay is not a characteristic that can be used to discriminate by against
persons.
But, you seem to think being gay gives you the right to discriminate against
those who are not gay.
That is criminal.

Since you want non-discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, we
can
not rule concerning your sexual orientation.
Gay means nothing to the law.

You're trolling _because_ the victim is gay and you hate gays.

Error. I am not discriminating on the basis of sexual orientation.
.

User: "The Chief Instigator"
Title: Re: J Young Christian Morality: 17 YO Man SHOOTS Man Because He Was Gay (Praise Jesus! Kill the Gays!)	18 Aug 2006 12:42:36 AM

"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

"Bud D. Green" <none@given.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:51:21 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:c6n2e217k4nhnv2a4q0jhghd3kspo4udoh@4ax.com...

You think being religious or sexual orientation are somehow things that the
law discriminates on the basis of, huh?

He didn't say "being religious or sexual orientation are somehow
things that the law discriminates on the basis of".

I wonder why you couldn't bother to respond to that observation of Bud's.

Is the charge that this person shot a gay man?
Gay has nothing to do with it in the eyes of the law.

Apparently and according to the story the victim was shot "for being
gay".

Where is the proof of that? I see zero proof of that accusation.

Of course, you see nothing when it serves your purposes.

When will you learn that being gay is not a defense in court?

The victim is not required to defend himself in court, fuckwit.

Who said he was?

A psychotic idiot named John D. Wentzky. Do you know him?

The other thing is the perpetrator is not supposed to be subject to some
***** hate crime which protects gays above other persons.
Gay is a non-issue in this case.

You don't get to be the judge.

Gay is not a characteristic that can be used to discriminate by against
persons.

Tell that to the victim of the assault, Sherlock.

But, you seem to think being gay gives you the right to discriminate against
those who are not gay.
That is criminal.

*yawn* So, you hate homosexuals. Tell us something about you that isn't
glaringly obvious.

Since you want non-discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, we
can not rule concerning your sexual orientation. Gay means nothing to the
law.

You're trolling _because_ the victim is gay and you hate gays.

Error. I am not discriminating on the basis of sexual orientation.

You're as honest as a $3 bill, son...and almost as legitimate.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
.

User: "John D.Wentzky"
Title: Re: J Young Christian Morality: 17 YO Man SHOOTS Man Because He Was Gay (Praise Jesus! Kill the Gays!)	18 Aug 2006 09:12:11 AM

"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

The other thing is the perpetrator is not supposed to be subject to some
***** hate crime which protects gays above other persons.
Gay is a non-issue in this case.

You don't get to be the judge.

Why not?

Gay is not a characteristic that can be used to discriminate by against
persons.

Tell that to the victim of the assault, Sherlock.

I could.
Since sexual-orientation is something which can not be used to discrimate by
I would have to tell him that it is a non-issue.
I would have to tell him that gay has nothing to do with it.
.

User: "The Chief Instigator"
Title: Re: J Young Christian Morality: 17 YO Man SHOOTS Man Because He Was Gay (Praise Jesus! Kill the Gays!)	18 Aug 2006 04:27:20 PM

"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wretx9v.fsf@fnord.io.com...

"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

The other thing is the perpetrator is not supposed to be subject to some
***** hate crime which protects gays above other persons.
Gay is a non-issue in this case.

You don't get to be the judge.

Why not?

Let's see...because 1) you're not in court, 2) you will never be mistaken for
anyone with legal expertise, 3) you'll never be regarded as literate, since
you routinely refuse to understand what you read, 4) you've made no secret of
blaming homosexuals for what happend to your brother...there are a few more to
add to that list.

Gay is not a characteristic that can be used to discriminate by against
persons.

Tell that to the victim of the assault, Sherlock.

I could.
Since sexual-orientation is something which can not be used to discrimate by
I would have to tell him that it is a non-issue.
I would have to tell him that gay has nothing to do with it.

It would be poetic justice if the victim decided to stomp you senseless (not
that it would require much of an effort, in your case) because of your galling
ignorance of reality. Telling a victim that it's their fault really will make
them support you, eh?
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
.

User: "John D.Wentzky"
Title: Re: J Young Christian Morality: 17 YO Man SHOOTS Man Because He Was Gay (Praise Jesus! Kill the Gays!)	19 Aug 2006 11:13:48 AM

"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wretx9v.fsf@fnord.io.com...

"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

The other thing is the perpetrator is not supposed to be subject to some
***** hate crime which protects gays above other persons.
Gay is a non-issue in this case.

You don't get to be the judge.

Why not?

Let's see...because 1) you're not in court, 2) you will never be mistaken
for
anyone with legal expertise, 3) you'll never be regarded as literate,
since
you routinely refuse to understand what you read, 4) you've made no secret
of
blaming homosexuals for what happend to your brother...there are a few
more to
add to that list.

All of which are immaterial or irrelevant or false accusations against me.

Gay is not a characteristic that can be used to discriminate by against
persons.

Tell that to the victim of the assault, Sherlock.

I could.
Since sexual-orientation is something which can not be used to discrimate
by
I would have to tell him that it is a non-issue.
I would have to tell him that gay has nothing to do with it.

It would be poetic justice if the victim decided to stomp you senseless

Actually, it wouldn't. Stomping me senseless would be a criminal act on his
part.

(not that it would require much of an effort, in your case) because of
your galling
ignorance of reality. Telling a victim that it's their fault really will
make
them support you, eh?

There you go with your ignorance again.
When did I say it was his fault?
I told you gay is nothing to discriminate against straights with.

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35

User: "The Chief Instigator"
Title: Re: J Young Christian Morality: 17 YO Man SHOOTS Man Because He Was Gay (Praise Jesus! Kill the Gays!)	19 Aug 2006 12:09:05 PM

"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkd5axenuv.fsf@fnord.io.com...

"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wretx9v.fsf@fnord.io.com...

"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

The other thing is the perpetrator is not supposed to be subject to some
***** hate crime which protects gays above other persons.
Gay is a non-issue in this case.

You don't get to be the judge.

Why not?

Let's see...because 1) you're not in court, 2) you will never be mistaken
for anyone with legal expertise, 3) you'll never be regarded as literate,
since you routinely refuse to understand what you read, 4) you've made no
secret of blaming homosexuals for what happend to your brother...there are
a few more to add to that list.

All of which are immaterial or irrelevant or false accusations against me.

....which only shows your refusal to deal with what you read. I'm posting my
opinions, little crackhead. Why are you too stupid to ignore them?

Gay is not a characteristic that can be used to discriminate by against
persons.

Tell that to the victim of the assault, Sherlock.

I could. Since sexual-orientation is something which can not be used to
discrimate by I would have to tell him that it is a non-issue. I would
have to tell him that gay has nothing to do with it.

It would be poetic justice if the victim decided to stomp you senseless

Actually, it wouldn't. Stomping me senseless would be a criminal act on his
part.

Maybe, maybe not - but showing such a complete lack of compassion for the
victim by making a statement like that would show what a waste of DNA you're
getting to be.

(not that it would require much of an effort, in your case) because of your
galling ignorance of reality. Telling a victim that it's their fault
really will make them support you, eh?

There you go with your ignorance again.
When did I say it was his fault?
I told you gay is nothing to discriminate against straights with.

Have fun with the knowledge that even in your wide spot in the road, there's a
gay community...if it's a representative sample of the population, you've got
300 or so in your little town, and four or five times as many just up the road
in Greenville. If you're actually let out into the community, you could be
encountering them every day, for all you know.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
.

User: "John D.Wentzky"
Title: Re: J Young Christian Morality: 17 YO Man SHOOTS Man Because He Was Gay (Praise Jesus! Kill the Gays!)	19 Aug 2006 06:32:42 PM

"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkd5axenuv.fsf@fnord.io.com...

"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wretx9v.fsf@fnord.io.com...

"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

The other thing is the perpetrator is not supposed to be subject to
some
***** hate crime which protects gays above other persons.
Gay is a non-issue in this case.

You don't get to be the judge.

Why not?

Let's see...because 1) you're not in court, 2) you will never be
mistaken
for anyone with legal expertise, 3) you'll never be regarded as
literate,
since you routinely refuse to understand what you read, 4) you've made
no
secret of blaming homosexuals for what happend to your brother...there
are
a few more to add to that list.

All of which are immaterial or irrelevant or false accusations against me.

...which only shows your refusal to deal with what you read. I'm posting
my
opinions, little crackhead. Why are you too stupid to ignore them?

Gay is not a characteristic that can be used to discriminate by
against
persons.

Tell that to the victim of the assault, Sherlock.

I could. Since sexual-orientation is something which can not be used to
discrimate by I would have to tell him that it is a non-issue. I would
have to tell him that gay has nothing to do with it.

It would be poetic justice if the victim decided to stomp you senseless

Actually, it wouldn't. Stomping me senseless would be a criminal act on
his
part.

Maybe, maybe not - but showing such a complete lack of compassion for the
victim by making a statement like that would show what a waste of DNA
you're
getting to be.

How is telling someone who possibly does not want to be discriminated
against because they are gay have any room to discriminate against anyone
else because they are not gay?
The hate crime rider is unnecessary.
The hate crime rider discriminates on the basis of sexual orientation.

(not that it would require much of an effort, in your case) because of
your
galling ignorance of reality. Telling a victim that it's their fault
really will make them support you, eh?

There you go with your ignorance again.
When did I say it was his fault?
I told you gay is nothing to discriminate against straights with.

Have fun with the knowledge that even in your wide spot in the road,
there's a
gay community...

I guess. But, I can not be fair to them by being unfair to anyone who isn't
gay.
Fair is fair.
See?
If there is going to be no discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation
then there should be none at all, either for or against gay persons on the
basis of the sexual orientation.

if it's a representative sample of the population, you've got
300 or so in your little town, and four or five times as many just up the
road
in Greenville. If you're actually let out into the community, you could
be
encountering them every day, for all you know.

I have no problem conducting myself quite well with them in person.
To me gay is a non-issue, ok?
How do you think I made it this far if I had been some anti-gay type who
bashes gays?

User: "Bud D. Green"
Title: Re: J Young Christian Morality: 17 YO Man SHOOTS Man Because He Was Gay (Praise Jesus! Kill the Gays!)	17 Aug 2006 08:22:22 PM

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 06:02:46 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote: