On Jun 6, 8:26 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 12:10:17 -0700, Robert <rob...@netportusa.com>
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On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 14:58:16 +0930, Michael Gray
<mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 19:28:22 -0700, Rob Cope <robcope...@gmail.com>
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On May 30, 11:54 am, "Denis Loubet" <dlou...@io.com> wrote:

"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in messagenews:np3r53l342gd7ogql62k74qnt3j1aoloii@4ax.com...

On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:39:40 +0930, Michael Gray
<mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 06:29:50 GMT, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
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On Wed, 30 May 2007 14:16:17 +0930, Michael Gray
<mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 01:29:43 GMT, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
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More of that J Young GOP family value

Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2007/05/29/4216549-sun.html

After 10 hours of deliberation, a nearly deadlocked jury found a
Jacksonville youth pastor guilty Friday on two counts of possessing
child pornography on his computer.

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The jury came to its decision around 6 p.m., but just hours earlier,
at 3:30 p.m., a jury foreman told U.S. District Judge Henry Adams that
the jury was split and unable to come to a decision in the case
against Richard Steven Sweat, former youth pastor at Lake Shore
Baptist Church on Blanding Boulevard.

"Steve Sweat"?
Sound like a porn star!

Or a youth pastor, as it turned out.

Pretty much the real-world equivalent, then.

That an insult to porn stars. They are tax-paying, law abiding
citizens who have actual jobs.

At least porn stars are mostly consenting adults.
I can't wait for the new release: "When Choir Boys Go Wild", from
Vatican Productions Inc.

From the same organization that brought you:
* Footloose - A Torturer's Documentary.
* Confessionals of a Paedophile.
* Nun butt the Brave.
* Chest side Story - with Ritzo Ratsinger
* Madame Palm Sunday.
* Pope on a Rope, Part 2
* The Lie on, the Witch, and the Nazi
* The Man with the Smoking Handbag.

and many, many more...

*Leave No Child's Behind.

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Denis Loubet
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http//www.io.com/~dloubet

1) He was a <i>former</i> youth pastor. Not that necessarily matters,
but for those seeking journalistic credibility in our society, it was
a cheap shot by the Florida Times Union.

2) A youth pastor is an "actual job." They are taxed, they're
recognized as an occupation by the government, and they benefit our
country. You may disagree with the religion with which their
occupation is based, but youth pastors help so many kids that others
(read: atheist groups) leave behind. Like I said, disagree with
Christianity all you want, but don't diminish the real, positive
impact that youth pastors play in teenagers' lives all you want.

3) If you're asserting that your worldview and moral structure is
superior to that of Christians (whether you openly admit it or not,
you believe that it is; we're no different), then why don't you
refrain from kicking someone when they're down? Rich Sweat was a
friend of mine. He was a supervisor at the Best Buy I worked at, and
he was my boss at the valet service that he ran. He was open about the
accusations being laid against him, and was a genuinely nice person
who everyone respected. Also, keep in mind that the jury was split and
deliberation was over 10 hours. I think we can all agree that just
because our legal system finds someone guilty, doesn't mean they
indeed are. I'm not saying Rich is innocent (believe me, only him and
God knows), but the case was far from open-and-shut.

So, you claim that you "know" that a non-existent sky-daddy "knows"
that he is innocent?
Are you mad?

Are you mute, as well?

--

Michael,

No, I don't "know" that the Creator I believe in "knows" only because
I don't know God exists. "Believe me" is more of a figure of speech
basically saying that I believe something to be adamantly true. Now,
if this "sky-daddy" does exist, then absolutely He knows whether
something like this is true or not. Whoever created all of this (it
wasn't the "big bang"), probably is powerful enough to know if a
person is innocent or guilty in a trial.

Of all the points I had made in those three main sections, your attack
on the existence of God shows how little you care about the person
being discussed here, and more about the religion he represents. Of

course, that's the bigger issue anyway, I suppose.

Of all the points I had made in those three main sections, your attack
on the existence of God shows how little you care about the person
being discussed here, and more about the religion he represents. Of
course, that's the bigger issue anyway, I suppose.

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:47:10 -0700, Rob Cope <robcope...@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Jun 6, 3:15 pm, Robert <rob...@netportusa.com> wrote:

On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 14:58:16 +0930, Michael Gray

<mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:

1) He was a <i>former</i> youth pastor. Not that necessarily matters,
but for those seeking journalistic credibility in our society, it was
a cheap shot by the Florida Times Union.

2) A youth pastor is an "actual job." They are taxed, they're
recognized as an occupation by the government, and they benefit our
country. You may disagree with the religion with which their
occupation is based, but youth pastors help so many kids that others
(read: atheist groups) leave behind. Like I said, disagree with
Christianity all you want, but don't diminish the real, positive
impact that youth pastors play in teenagers' lives all you want.

Many Youth ministers are child molesters, in fact it's the perfect
job for a predator. Like a wolf being a shepherd. The impact of
religion is always negative, hate and bigotry have to be taught. And
religions are based on fear hate and bigotry. The best of Youth
ministers abuse children, and many add sex abuse to the mental abuse
of fear hatred and bigotry.

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Robert,

Many Youth ministers are child molesters? What statistical evidence
can you give to back that up? That's what I love about these anti-
Christian websites; you disregard the thousands upon thousands of
great, yet not perfect, pastors and Christian leaders who have
committed their lives of furthering the cause of Jesus Christ and the
helping of others and have instead focused on the handful of wolves in
sheep's clothing that give Christianity a "black eye".

There are only a "hand full" of wolves. And the "decent" Christians
tend to protect the. The most common child abuser is a family member
or close family friend. Many of them are deeply religious. the next
most common, child abuser is church workers, and youth ministers
are the most common of them. The position is attractive to child
molesters, because it gives them access to children.
As to those dedicated to fucking up the lives of millions of people
by spreading the lies of Christianity. Even the few that actually do
some good, doesn't off set the harm of instilling bigotry and hatred
that is the core of religion.

Of course, it's
all done to help comfort your hate of a religion that preaches non-
hate, while ironically saying that it supports hate and bigotry, which
you just did. Wow, did I just make an ignorant, blanket statement?
Sorry, you're contagious.

Your religion preaches hate and calls it love, just one of many
lies, that your religion uses. I left your religion when I realized
the truth. That Christianity teaches bigotry and hate. Your bull *****
that teaches your beliefs are the only truth is a lie. And promotes
bigotry and hate for those that don't accept your beliefs.

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