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Religions > Atheism |
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"Dave W" |
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05 Sep 2003 02:57:00 PM |
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James Randi article on religion. |
"Why I Deny Religion, How Silly and Fantastic It Is, and Why I'm a
Dedicated and Vociferous Bright."
<A bit too long to post.>
http://www.randi.org/jr/072503.html
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Dave W a.a.#1967
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: James Randi article on religion. |
05 Sep 2003 03:14:18 PM |
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Dave W wrote:
"Why I Deny Religion, How Silly and Fantastic It Is, and Why I'm a
Dedicated and Vociferous Bright."
<A bit too long to post.>
http://www.randi.org/jr/072503.html
Very well written, very clearly articulated. But....
Wow. I have to wonder what put the bee in his bonnet.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
Is your faith so weak and your god so powerless
that, without government endorsement of your
religion, all hell will break loose?
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| User: "Bob Dog" |
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| Title: Re: James Randi article on religion. |
06 Sep 2003 01:22:05 PM |
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Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message news:<3F58EE9A.BEF48B90@serv.net>...
Dave W wrote:
"Why I Deny Religion, How Silly and Fantastic It Is, and Why I'm a
Dedicated and Vociferous Bright."
<A bit too long to post.>
http://www.randi.org/jr/072503.html
Very well written, very clearly articulated. But....
Wow. I have to wonder what put the bee in his bonnet.
From what I read on his site (I read it regularly), he let
fly because he's been curbing his own tongue on the subject
for so long.
Perhaps it's an admission that he's tired of having strange
bedfellows, ie. xians who disbelieve dowsing and other crap.
Some xians are rational and will keep it to themselves, but
for those that don't...well, they got what they deserved.
Bob Dog
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: James Randi article on religion. |
08 Sep 2003 09:25:53 AM |
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Bob Dog wrote:
Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message news:<3F58EE9A.BEF48B90@serv.net>...
Dave W wrote:
"Why I Deny Religion, How Silly and Fantastic It Is, and Why I'm a
Dedicated and Vociferous Bright."
<A bit too long to post.>
http://www.randi.org/jr/072503.html
Very well written, very clearly articulated. But....
Wow. I have to wonder what put the bee in his bonnet.
From what I read on his site (I read it regularly), he let
fly because he's been curbing his own tongue on the subject
for so long.
Perhaps it's an admission that he's tired of having strange
bedfellows, ie. xians who disbelieve dowsing and other crap.
Some xians are rational and will keep it to themselves, but
for those that don't...well, they got what they deserved.
Yes, but in the past he's been respectful of religious belief (or at least kept his
opinions pretty quiet.) His column carries with it a sense of "That was the last straw!"
I'm just curious as to what was that last straw :-)
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
Is your faith so weak and your god so powerless
that, without government endorsement of your
religion, all hell will break loose?
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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| Title: Re: James Randi article on religion. |
08 Sep 2003 10:31:41 AM |
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Yes, but in the past he's been respectful of religious belief (or at least
kept his
opinions pretty quiet.) His column carries with it a sense of "That was the
last straw!"
I'm just curious as to what was that last straw :-)
For me, 9/11 was the last straw. I also wonder what took him so long.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Ill-Legal Dept. "Abandon Hope All Ye Who Enter Here"
"My country, right or wrong; to be defended when right and righted when wrong."
- Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Bob Dog" |
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| Title: Re: James Randi article on religion. |
06 Sep 2003 01:22:09 PM |
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Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message news:<3F58EE9A.BEF48B90@serv.net>...
Dave W wrote:
"Why I Deny Religion, How Silly and Fantastic It Is, and Why I'm a
Dedicated and Vociferous Bright."
<A bit too long to post.>
http://www.randi.org/jr/072503.html
Very well written, very clearly articulated. But....
Wow. I have to wonder what put the bee in his bonnet.
From what I read on his site (I read it regularly), he let
fly because he's been curbing his own tongue on the subject
for so long.
Perhaps it's an admission that he's tired of having strange
bedfellows, ie. xians who disbelieve dowsing and other crap.
Some xians are rational and will keep it to themselves, but
for those that don't...well, they got what they deserved.
Bob Dog
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| User: "Dave W" |
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| Title: Re: James Randi article on religion. |
05 Sep 2003 03:25:28 PM |
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Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote in news:3F58EE9A.BEF48B90
@serv.net:
Dave W wrote:
"Why I Deny Religion, How Silly and Fantastic It Is, and Why I'm a
Dedicated and Vociferous Bright."
<A bit too long to post.>
http://www.randi.org/jr/072503.html
Very well written, very clearly articulated. But....
Wow. I have to wonder what put the bee in his bonnet.
I wondered that myself. Maybe the Mor(m)ons or JWs were knocking on doors
particularly early that morning...
--
Dave W a.a.#1967
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: James Randi article on religion. |
06 Sep 2003 10:23:37 PM |
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On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:25:28 +0000, Dave W wrote:
Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote in news:3F58EE9A.BEF48B90
@serv.net:
Dave W wrote:
"Why I Deny Religion, How Silly and Fantastic It Is, and Why I'm a
Dedicated and Vociferous Bright."
<A bit too long to post.>
http://www.randi.org/jr/072503.html
Very well written, very clearly articulated. But....
Wow. I have to wonder what put the bee in his bonnet.
I wondered that myself. Maybe the Mor(m)ons or JWs were knocking on doors
particularly early that morning...
Yeah, you ever had one of those days when the Jeebus freaks swarm?
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Mark K. Bilbo
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| User: "Dave W" |
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| Title: Re: James Randi article on religion. |
07 Sep 2003 02:12:08 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote in
news:pan.2003.09.07.03.23.37.188493@eac.org:
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:25:28 +0000, Dave W wrote:
Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote in news:3F58EE9A.BEF48B90
@serv.net:
Dave W wrote:
"Why I Deny Religion, How Silly and Fantastic It Is, and Why I'm a
Dedicated and Vociferous Bright."
<A bit too long to post.>
http://www.randi.org/jr/072503.html
Very well written, very clearly articulated. But....
Wow. I have to wonder what put the bee in his bonnet.
I wondered that myself. Maybe the Mor(m)ons or JWs were knocking on
doors particularly early that morning...
Yeah, you ever had one of those days when the Jeebus freaks swarm?
Oh yeah. I seem to get the Baptists, the JWs and the Mormons on an all
too regular basis. A friend whose family is Baptist said that there is
some sort of turf war between the Baptists and the Mormons in the area.
--
Dave W a.a.#1967
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| User: "J.R." |
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| Title: Re: James Randi article on religion. |
08 Sep 2003 01:38:39 AM |
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Dave W <question.everythingUCEWILLBEIGNORED@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<Xns93EF1E7F5FB5invalidinvalidedu@199.45.49.11>...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote in
news:pan.2003.09.07.03.23.37.188493@eac.org:
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:25:28 +0000, Dave W wrote:
Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote in news:3F58EE9A.BEF48B90
@serv.net:
Dave W wrote:
"Why I Deny Religion, How Silly and Fantastic It Is, and Why I'm a
Dedicated and Vociferous Bright."
<A bit too long to post.>
http://www.randi.org/jr/072503.html
Very well written, very clearly articulated. But....
Wow. I have to wonder what put the bee in his bonnet.
I wondered that myself. Maybe the Mor(m)ons or JWs were knocking on
doors particularly early that morning...
Yeah, you ever had one of those days when the Jeebus freaks swarm?
Oh yeah. I seem to get the Baptists, the JWs and the Mormons on an all
too regular basis. A friend whose family is Baptist said that there is
some sort of turf war between the Baptists and the Mormons in the area.
Of all the people that hand out pamphlets, JW's are the pushiest and
most obnoxcious.
How would it be if the country was run by them? If 99% of your
neighbors were JW's? If you couldn't make a move without one of them
giving you the eagle-eye?
It's even worse than that where the Muslims rule and the Jews rule.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: James Randi article on religion. |
07 Sep 2003 03:42:36 PM |
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On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 07:12:08 +0000, Dave W wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote in
news:pan.2003.09.07.03.23.37.188493@eac.org:
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:25:28 +0000, Dave W wrote:
Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote in news:3F58EE9A.BEF48B90
@serv.net:
Dave W wrote:
"Why I Deny Religion, How Silly and Fantastic It Is, and Why I'm a
Dedicated and Vociferous Bright."
<A bit too long to post.>
http://www.randi.org/jr/072503.html
Very well written, very clearly articulated. But....
Wow. I have to wonder what put the bee in his bonnet.
I wondered that myself. Maybe the Mor(m)ons or JWs were knocking on
doors particularly early that morning...
Yeah, you ever had one of those days when the Jeebus freaks swarm?
Oh yeah. I seem to get the Baptists, the JWs and the Mormons on an all too
regular basis. A friend whose family is Baptist said that there is some
sort of turf war between the Baptists and the Mormons in the area.
You know, there's a South Park episode in there...
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Mark K. Bilbo
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| User: "Dave W" |
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| Title: Re: James Randi article on religion. |
07 Sep 2003 09:13:33 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote in
news:pan.2003.09.07.20.42.36.278088@eac.org:
On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 07:12:08 +0000, Dave W wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote in
news:pan.2003.09.07.03.23.37.188493@eac.org:
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:25:28 +0000, Dave W wrote:
Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote in news:3F58EE9A.BEF48B90
@serv.net:
Dave W wrote:
"Why I Deny Religion, How Silly and Fantastic It Is, and Why I'm
a Dedicated and Vociferous Bright."
<A bit too long to post.>
http://www.randi.org/jr/072503.html
Very well written, very clearly articulated. But....
Wow. I have to wonder what put the bee in his bonnet.
I wondered that myself. Maybe the Mor(m)ons or JWs were knocking on
doors particularly early that morning...
Yeah, you ever had one of those days when the Jeebus freaks swarm?
Oh yeah. I seem to get the Baptists, the JWs and the Mormons on an
all too regular basis. A friend whose family is Baptist said that
there is some sort of turf war between the Baptists and the Mormons
in the area.
You know, there's a South Park episode in there...
Add the Scientology campus that is nearby and you would have a doozy.
--
Dave W a.a.#1967
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: James Randi article on religion. |
06 Sep 2003 01:40:55 AM |
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In article <3F58EE9A.BEF48B90@serv.net>,
Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote:
Dave W wrote:
"Why I Deny Religion, How Silly and Fantastic It Is, and Why I'm a
Dedicated and Vociferous Bright."
<A bit too long to post.>
http://www.randi.org/jr/072503.html
Very well written, very clearly articulated. But....
Wow. I have to wonder what put the bee in his bonnet.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
Is your faith so weak and your god so powerless
that, without government endorsement of your
religion, all hell will break loose?
Randi is a great debunker of charlatans, frauds, quacks, myths, the
paranormal, supernatural, and the jiust plain crazy. Why wouldn't he
go after the biggest scam of all?
--
John Hachmann, aa #1782
Pierre Laplace, when asked by Napoleon on why he made
no mention of a god in his book on astronomy: "Sire,
I have no need of that hypothesis."
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| User: "John Popelish" |
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| Title: Re: James Randi article on religion. |
06 Sep 2003 11:38:14 AM |
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johac wrote:
Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote:
Dave W wrote:
"Why I Deny Religion, How Silly and Fantastic It Is, and Why I'm a
Dedicated and Vociferous Bright."
<A bit too long to post.>
http://www.randi.org/jr/072503.html
Very well written, very clearly articulated. But....
Wow. I have to wonder what put the bee in his bonnet.
Is your faith so weak and your god so powerless
that, without government endorsement of your
religion, all hell will break loose?
Randi is a great debunker of charlatans, frauds, quacks, myths, the
paranormal, supernatural, and the jiust plain crazy. Why wouldn't he
go after the biggest scam of all?
Probably because dowsers and psychics hardly ever make terrorist
attacks on disbelievers and debunkers. Religious fanatics, however,
have been known for this trait throughout history. Do you think Randi
has received the expected death threats, yet? I'll bet a nickle he
has.
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John Popelish
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: James Randi article on religion. |
07 Sep 2003 01:22:32 AM |
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In article <3F5A0EE1.E9C0AD5@rica.net>,
John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote:
johac wrote:
Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote:
Dave W wrote:
"Why I Deny Religion, How Silly and Fantastic It Is, and Why I'm a
Dedicated and Vociferous Bright."
<A bit too long to post.>
http://www.randi.org/jr/072503.html
Very well written, very clearly articulated. But....
Wow. I have to wonder what put the bee in his bonnet.
Is your faith so weak and your god so powerless
that, without government endorsement of your
religion, all hell will break loose?
Randi is a great debunker of charlatans, frauds, quacks, myths, the
paranormal, supernatural, and the jiust plain crazy. Why wouldn't he
go after the biggest scam of all?
Probably because dowsers and psychics hardly ever make terrorist
attacks on disbelievers and debunkers. Religious fanatics, however,
have been known for this trait throughout history. Do you think Randi
has received the expected death threats, yet? I'll bet a nickle he
has.
He probably has. Should that stop him? Like other kinds of terrorists,
if the religious fanatics force us to change our behaviour or to shut
up, then they have won. It seems that Randi has the courage of his
convictions.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to
do nothing." - Edmund Burke
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John Hachmann, aa #1782
Pierre Laplace, when asked by Napoleon on why he made
no mention of a god in his book on astronomy: "Sire,
I have no need of that hypothesis."
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| User: "Lee Dimas" |
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| Title: Re: James Randi article on religion. |
05 Sep 2003 05:21:48 PM |
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In article <3F58EE9A.BEF48B90@serv.net>,
Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote:
Dave W wrote:
"Why I Deny Religion, How Silly and Fantastic It Is, and Why I'm a
Dedicated and Vociferous Bright."
<A bit too long to post.>
http://www.randi.org/jr/072503.html
Very well written, very clearly articulated. But....
Wow. I have to wonder what put the bee in his bonnet.
After decades of dealing with charlatans, hucksters and just plain
ignorant people his patience finally ran out??
Lee Dimas
Surely you can figure out my address.
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| User: "Mekkala" |
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05 Sep 2003 03:56:58 PM |
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On 05 Sep 2003, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> screwed up his face,
groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:3F58EE9A.BEF48B90@serv.net:
Dave W wrote:
"Why I Deny Religion, How Silly and Fantastic It Is, and Why I'm a
Dedicated and Vociferous Bright."
<A bit too long to post.>
http://www.randi.org/jr/072503.html
Very well written, very clearly articulated. But....
Wow. I have to wonder what put the bee in his bonnet.
Same thing that puts the bee in my own bonnet -- the constant, unceasing
display of mad, unreasoning evil from religions the world over.
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly
realized I was talking to myself!"
--Peter O'Toole.
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| User: "LP" |
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05 Sep 2003 05:29:04 PM |
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On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:14:18 -0700, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
wrote:
Dave W wrote:
"Why I Deny Religion, How Silly and Fantastic It Is, and Why I'm a
Dedicated and Vociferous Bright."
<A bit too long to post.>
http://www.randi.org/jr/072503.html
Very well written, very clearly articulated. But....
Wow. I have to wonder what put the bee in his bonnet.
He is just treating religion the same way he has always treated
supernatural nonsense. After all, is there any difference between the
claims of astrologers, palm readers and psychics, and those of the
popular religions?
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| User: "Jesus Christ" |
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| Title: Re: James Randi article on religion. |
05 Sep 2003 07:31:06 PM |
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LP <whirl_pool@nospam.hotmail.com> :
"Why I Deny Religion, How Silly and Fantastic It Is, and Why I'm a
Dedicated and Vociferous Bright."
<A bit too long to post.>
http://www.randi.org/jr/072503.html
Very well written, very clearly articulated. But....
Wow. I have to wonder what put the bee in his bonnet.
He is just treating religion the same way he has always treated
supernatural nonsense. After all, is there any difference between the
claims of astrologers, palm readers and psychics, and those of the
popular religions?
Adherants of the former are more likely to kill than adherants of the
latter.
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