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"Enkidu" |
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18 Dec 2005 11:07:04 AM |
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James Watson, rational atheist. |
James Watson is the co-discoverer of the structure of the DNA molecule.
In 1996 Richard Dawkins interviewed Watson in a brief film broadcast on the
BBC.
Watson said: "I don't think we're for anything, we're just products of
evolution. You can say 'Gee, your life must be pretty bleak if you don't
think there's a purpose' but I'm anticipating a good lunch." Later, Dawkins
asked if Watson knew many religious scientists: "Virtually none.
Occasionally I meet them and I'm a bit embarrassed (laugh) because I can't
believe that anyone accepts truth by revelation."
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.musings.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then where does evil come from?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: James Watson, rational atheist. |
18 Dec 2005 11:28:14 AM |
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"THEE" *ELECT* "ONE" *WROTE*:
ENKIDU...
*DO* "YOU" *HAVE* "THE" *ABILITY* "TO" *ESTABLISH* "YOUR"
*CONGREGATION* "AS" *AN* "ORDAINED" *MINISTER*???
*SINCE* "YOU" *ARE* "NOT" *WILLING* "TO" *PROVIDE* "US" *WITH* "YOUR"
*AFFILIATED* "ORGANIZATION" *WE* "MUST" *ASSUME* "THAT" *IT* "IS"
*SOMETHING* "YOU" *IMAGINED* "IN" *YOUR* "THOUGHTS"!!!
*YOU* "SEE" *THERE* "ARE" *ORGANIZED* "REPRESENTATIVE" *VALUES* "TO"
*THE* "LIFE" *WE* "SHARE" *AND* "THE" *PEOPLE* "OF" *GOD* "HAVE"
*ALREADY* "ESTABLISHED" *THAT* "GOD" *LIVES* "AND" *GOD* "GAVE" *US*
"THE" *ABILITY* "TO" *PROVE* "THAT" *GOD* "LIVES"!!!
*WHAT* "YOU" *HAVE* "NOT" *DONE* "IS" *ESTABLISH* "WHO" *YOU* "AS" *A*
"PERSON" *ARE* "SERVING" *BECAUSE* "YOU" *KNOW* "AND" *I* "KNOW" *THAT*
"YOU" *SIMPLY* "CANNOT" *ESTABLISH* "IMAGINARY" *CONCEPTS* "OR"
*THOUGHTS* "AS" *BEING* "REAL"!!!
*THEREFORE*, "YOUR" *WHOLE* "EXISTENCE" *HAS* "NO" *FOUNDATIONAL*
"SUPPORT" *FOR* "THE" *PEOPLE* "OF" *GOD* "ARE" *ESTABLISHED* "TO"
*GOD* "AS" *OUR* "FOUNDATIONAL" *SUPPORT* "FOR" *EXISTING* "IN"
*LIFE*!!!
*SO* "YOU" *HAVE* "NOW" *BEEN* "RECOGNIZED" *AS* "A" *PERSON* "WHO"
*SPREADS* "FALSE" *IDEOLOGIES* "AROUND" *TO* "PEOPLE" *WHO* "ARE"
*LOOKING* "FOR" *THE* "TRUTHS" *IN* "LIFE"!!!
*THE* "TRUTHS" *MUST* "BE" *AND* "ALWAYS" *HAVE* "BEEN" *OF* "GOD"
*BECAUSE* "GOD" *ESTABLISHED* "TRUTH" *AS* "A" *QUALITY* "IN"
*LIFE*!!!*THE* "WORLD" *COULD* "NOT" *BE* "WITHOUT" *THE* "FACT" *THAT*
"THE" *WORLD* "IS" *IN* "AND" *OF* "ITSELF" *A* "REAL" *PLACE* "FOR"
*LIFE* "TO" *LIVE*!!!
*SO* "IN" *ORDER* "FOR" *THE* "PEOPLE" *LIVING* "ON" *EARTH* "TO"
*HAVE* "BEEN" *ABLE* "TO" *EXIST* "AND" *SURVIVE* "THERE" *WOULD*
"HAVE" *BEEN* "THE" *ESTABLISHMENT* "OF" *FOOD* "AND" *THE* "SURVIVAL"
*QUALITIES* "FIRST"!!!
*THAT* "MEANS" *THAT* "IT" *TOOK* "THOUGHTS", *IDEALS*, "AND" *THE*
"ABILITY" *TO* "CREATE" *OUT* "OF" *THOSE* "THOUGHTS" *AND* "IDEALS"
*BY* "GOD" *TO* "MAKE" *THEM* "A" *REALITY* "TO" *LIFE*!!!
*DO* "TRY" *TO* "BE" *TRUTHFUL* "WITH" *YOUR* "OWN" *LIFE* "AND" *YOU*
"WILL" *BE* "ABLE" *TO* "BE" *HONEST* "WITH" *THE* "REST" *OF* "US"
*WHO* "SHARE" *IN* "LIFE"!!!
*HAVE* "A" *NICE* "DAY"...
"THEE" *ELECT* "ONE"
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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| Title: Re: James Watson, rational atheist. |
18 Dec 2005 11:36:07 AM |
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wrote in news:1134926894.863189.32410
@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
*DO* "YOU" *HAVE* "THE" *ABILITY* "TO" *ESTABLISH* "YOUR"
*CONGREGATION* "AS" *AN* "ORDAINED" *MINISTER*???
*SINCE* "YOU" *ARE* "NOT" *WILLING* "TO" *PROVIDE* "US" *WITH* "YOUR"
*AFFILIATED* "ORGANIZATION" *WE* "MUST" *ASSUME* "THAT" *IT* "IS"
*SOMETHING* "YOU" *IMAGINED* "IN" *YOUR* "THOUGHTS"!!!
Universal Life Church. It says so right there in the sig, *****. Hell,
anyone can be a minister. It shows how worthless the title is.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.musings.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
"Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby
can't chew it."
-- Mark Twain
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| User: "R. Pierce Butler" |
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| Title: Re: James Watson, rational atheist. |
18 Dec 2005 11:47:43 AM |
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Enkidu <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in
news:Xns973061B955286255229@130.133.1.4:
Elect_One_Two@hotmail.com wrote in news:1134926894.863189.32410
@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
*DO* "YOU" *HAVE* "THE" *ABILITY* "TO" *ESTABLISH* "YOUR"
*CONGREGATION* "AS" *AN* "ORDAINED" *MINISTER*???
*SINCE* "YOU" *ARE* "NOT" *WILLING* "TO" *PROVIDE* "US" *WITH* "YOUR"
*AFFILIATED* "ORGANIZATION" *WE* "MUST" *ASSUME* "THAT" *IT* "IS"
*SOMETHING* "YOU" *IMAGINED* "IN" *YOUR* "THOUGHTS"!!!
Universal Life Church. It says so right there in the sig, *****.
Hell, anyone can be a minister. It shows how worthless the title is.
I am an ordained minister in the ULC.
Life is universal. It mostly works for all living creatures.
pierce
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| User: "turk" |
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| Title: Re: James Watson, rational atheist. |
18 Dec 2005 04:02:55 PM |
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"R. Pierce Butler" <spamsucks@google.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9730780524CE4mc2500183316chgoill@10.232.1.1...
Enkidu <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in
news:Xns973061B955286255229@130.133.1.4:
Elect_One_Two@hotmail.com wrote in news:1134926894.863189.32410
@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
*DO* "YOU" *HAVE* "THE" *ABILITY* "TO" *ESTABLISH* "YOUR"
*CONGREGATION* "AS" *AN* "ORDAINED" *MINISTER*???
*SINCE* "YOU" *ARE* "NOT" *WILLING* "TO" *PROVIDE* "US" *WITH* "YOUR"
*AFFILIATED* "ORGANIZATION" *WE* "MUST" *ASSUME* "THAT" *IT* "IS"
*SOMETHING* "YOU" *IMAGINED* "IN" *YOUR* "THOUGHTS"!!!
Universal Life Church. It says so right there in the sig, *****.
Hell, anyone can be a minister. It shows how worthless the title is.
I am an ordained minister in the ULC.
Life is universal. It mostly works for all living creatures.
I got the deluxe ULC package for $8 with the license. Now I can marry
people.
turk
--
My last vestige of "hands off religion" respect disappeared in the smoke and
choking dust of September 11th 2001, followed by the "National Day of
Prayer," when prelates and pastors did their tremulous Martin Luther King
impersonations and urged people of mutually incompatible faiths to hold
hands, united in homage to the very force that caused the problem in the
first place.
-- Richard Dawkins, The Devil's Chaplain (2004)
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: James Watson, rational atheist. |
18 Dec 2005 04:08:05 PM |
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On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 16:02:55 -0600 in alt.atheism, turk ("turk"
<turk96@comcast.net>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
"R. Pierce Butler" <spamsucks@google.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9730780524CE4mc2500183316chgoill@10.232.1.1...
Enkidu <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in
news:Xns973061B955286255229@130.133.1.4:
Elect_One_Two@hotmail.com wrote in news:1134926894.863189.32410
@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
*DO* "YOU" *HAVE* "THE" *ABILITY* "TO" *ESTABLISH* "YOUR"
*CONGREGATION* "AS" *AN* "ORDAINED" *MINISTER*???
*SINCE* "YOU" *ARE* "NOT" *WILLING* "TO" *PROVIDE* "US" *WITH* "YOUR"
*AFFILIATED* "ORGANIZATION" *WE* "MUST" *ASSUME* "THAT" *IT* "IS"
*SOMETHING* "YOU" *IMAGINED* "IN" *YOUR* "THOUGHTS"!!!
Universal Life Church. It says so right there in the sig, *****.
Hell, anyone can be a minister. It shows how worthless the title is.
I am an ordained minister in the ULC.
Life is universal. It mostly works for all living creatures.
I got the deluxe ULC package for $8 with the license. Now I can marry
people.
I don't think a ULC package confers immunity from bigamy statutes, but
if it does, it might well be worth signing up!
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| User: "Sanitys little helper" |
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| Title: Re: James Watson, rational atheist. |
18 Dec 2005 02:16:02 PM |
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On 18 Dec 2005 09:28:14 -0800, wrote:
"THEE" *ELECT* "ONE" *WROTE*:
ENKIDU...
*DO* "YOU" *HAVE* "THE" *ABILITY* "TO" *ESTABLISH* "YOUR"
*CONGREGATION* "AS" *AN* "ORDAINED" *MINISTER*???
*SINCE* "YOU" *ARE* "NOT" *WILLING* "TO" *PROVIDE* "US" *WITH* "YOUR"
*AFFILIATED* "ORGANIZATION" *WE* "MUST" *ASSUME* "THAT" *IT* "IS"
*SOMETHING* "YOU" *IMAGINED* "IN" *YOUR* "THOUGHTS"!!!
*YOU* "SEE" *THERE* "ARE" *ORGANIZED* "REPRESENTATIVE" *VALUES* "TO"
*THE* "LIFE" *WE* "SHARE" *AND* "THE" *PEOPLE* "OF" *GOD* "HAVE"
*ALREADY* "ESTABLISHED" *THAT* "GOD" *LIVES* "AND" *GOD* "GAVE" *US*
"THE" *ABILITY* "TO" *PROVE* "THAT" *GOD* "LIVES"!!!
*WHAT* "YOU" *HAVE* "NOT" *DONE* "IS" *ESTABLISH* "WHO" *YOU* "AS" *A*
"PERSON" *ARE* "SERVING" *BECAUSE* "YOU" *KNOW* "AND" *I* "KNOW" *THAT*
"YOU" *SIMPLY* "CANNOT" *ESTABLISH* "IMAGINARY" *CONCEPTS* "OR"
*THOUGHTS* "AS" *BEING* "REAL"!!!
*THEREFORE*, "YOUR" *WHOLE* "EXISTENCE" *HAS* "NO" *FOUNDATIONAL*
"SUPPORT" *FOR* "THE" *PEOPLE* "OF" *GOD* "ARE" *ESTABLISHED* "TO"
*GOD* "AS" *OUR* "FOUNDATIONAL" *SUPPORT* "FOR" *EXISTING* "IN"
*LIFE*!!!
*SO* "YOU" *HAVE* "NOW" *BEEN* "RECOGNIZED" *AS* "A" *PERSON* "WHO"
*SPREADS* "FALSE" *IDEOLOGIES* "AROUND" *TO* "PEOPLE" *WHO* "ARE"
*LOOKING* "FOR" *THE* "TRUTHS" *IN* "LIFE"!!!
*THE* "TRUTHS" *MUST* "BE" *AND* "ALWAYS" *HAVE* "BEEN" *OF* "GOD"
*BECAUSE* "GOD" *ESTABLISHED* "TRUTH" *AS* "A" *QUALITY* "IN"
*LIFE*!!!*THE* "WORLD" *COULD* "NOT" *BE* "WITHOUT" *THE* "FACT" *THAT*
"THE" *WORLD* "IS" *IN* "AND" *OF* "ITSELF" *A* "REAL" *PLACE* "FOR"
*LIFE* "TO" *LIVE*!!!
*SO* "IN" *ORDER* "FOR" *THE* "PEOPLE" *LIVING* "ON" *EARTH* "TO"
*HAVE* "BEEN" *ABLE* "TO" *EXIST* "AND" *SURVIVE* "THERE" *WOULD*
"HAVE" *BEEN* "THE" *ESTABLISHMENT* "OF" *FOOD* "AND" *THE* "SURVIVAL"
*QUALITIES* "FIRST"!!!
*THAT* "MEANS" *THAT* "IT" *TOOK* "THOUGHTS", *IDEALS*, "AND" *THE*
"ABILITY" *TO* "CREATE" *OUT* "OF" *THOSE* "THOUGHTS" *AND* "IDEALS"
*BY* "GOD" *TO* "MAKE" *THEM* "A" *REALITY* "TO" *LIFE*!!!
*DO* "TRY" *TO* "BE" *TRUTHFUL* "WITH" *YOUR* "OWN" *LIFE* "AND" *YOU*
"WILL" *BE* "ABLE" *TO* "BE" *HONEST* "WITH" *THE* "REST" *OF* "US"
*WHO* "SHARE" *IN* "LIFE"!!!
*HAVE* "A" *NICE* "DAY"...
"THEE" *ELECT* "ONE"
ElectOne. Everything in your sad, pointless deluded life is a figleaf of
your inagination.
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Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow, we eat, drink and be merry.
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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