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"Truth Hunter" |
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15 Jun 2005 10:11:03 AM |
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Jesus and God separate existence? |
Jesus and God separate existence?
Do you expect Jesus and his father to exist as separate entities in
heaven? References to Jesus 'sitting at God's right hand' seem to
suggest that they will, but it's a hard thing to understand.
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| User: "ۥ R. L. Measures" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus and God separate existence? |
15 Jun 2005 11:41:33 AM |
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In article <1118830263.506666.256140@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Truth
Hunter" <hunter1234222@yahoo.com> wrote:
Jesus and God separate existence?
Do you expect Jesus and his father to exist as separate entities in
heaven?
** In order to create a perfect sacrifice ritual that was celebrated in
the place where the one true church conducts business, it was necessary to
make the admittedly imperfect son of man - and the perfect father - one.
References to Jesus 'sitting at God's right hand' seem to
suggest that they will, but it's a hard thing to understand.
** At dinner, my wife Sue sits at my right hand. There's nothing hard to
understand about this since she swings with her right hand.
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Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "fred" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus and God separate existence? |
15 Jun 2005 11:39:06 PM |
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Jesus and the Father are one (John 10:30).
The only reason that people think differently is because they aren't
using their faith.
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| User: "The_Sage" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus and God separate existence? |
26 Jun 2005 03:12:34 PM |
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Reply to article by: "fred" <clarma1@gmail.com>
Date written: 15 Jun 2005 16:39:06 -0700
MsgID:<1118878746.157339.234730@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Jesus and the Father are one (John 10:30).
The only reason that people think differently is because they aren't
using their faith.
If they are one, how can they sit in two places side-by-side?
The Sage
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"Toward no crimes have men shown themselves so cold-bloodedly
cruel as in punishing differences in belief"
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| User: "ۥ R. L. Measures" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus and God separate existence? |
26 Jun 2005 04:12:29 PM |
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In article <tdhtb1h4el7a2naqgla5ve4afo121juu0f@4ax.com>, The_Sage
<The_Sage@msn.com> wrote:
Reply to article by: "fred" <clarma1@gmail.com>
Date written: 15 Jun 2005 16:39:06 -0700
MsgID:<1118878746.157339.234730@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Jesus and the Father are one (John 10:30).
The only reason that people think differently is because they aren't
using their faith.
If they are one, how can they sit in two places side-by-side?
• With MPD, it's easy, and it takes only one throne.
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Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "The_Sage" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus and God separate existence? |
28 Jun 2005 03:29:41 AM |
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Reply to article by: (ۥ R. L. Measures)
Date written: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:12:29 -0700
MsgID:<_r-2606050912290001@192.168.1.100>
Jesus and the Father are one (John 10:30).
The only reason that people think differently is because they aren't
using their faith.
If they are one, how can they sit in two places side-by-side?
• With MPD, it's easy, and it takes only one throne.
That's one sick God you have there.
The Sage
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My Home Page : http://members.cox.net/the.sage
"Toward no crimes have men shown themselves so cold-bloodedly
cruel as in punishing differences in belief"
-- James Russell Lowell
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| User: "ۥ R. L. Measures" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus and God separate existence? |
28 Jun 2005 10:26:06 AM |
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In article <5vg1c1dlbuo3srj8un8vfo2a49cb53hlul@4ax.com>, The_Sage
<The_Sage@msn.com> wrote:
Reply to article by: (ۥ R. L. Measures)
Date written: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:12:29 -0700
MsgID:<_r-2606050912290001@192.168.1.100>
Jesus and the Father are one (John 10:30).
The only reason that people think differently is because they aren't
using their faith.
If they are one, how can they sit in two places side-by-side?
• With MPD, it's easy, and it takes only one throne.
That's one sick God you have there.
• It's not my God, it's the God that got the most votes from the "holy"
men at Nicaea in 325. 55-years thereafter, the Roman Church succeeded in
winning the franchise as the official religion of the Roman Empire. 25
years later, the Roman Church began baptising infants and celebrating
Mass. After a cushion of a few centuries, Tradition suceeded in selling
the idea that these things began in the 1st century instead of the 4th.
- "The church became the gilded crutch of absolutism."
- historian John Acton
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Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus and God separate existence? |
28 Jun 2005 05:12:59 PM |
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"?. R. L. Measures" <> wrote in message
news:_r-2806050326060001@192.168.1.100...
In article <5vg1c1dlbuo3srj8un8vfo2a49cb53hlul@4ax.com>, The_Sage
<The_Sage@msn.com> wrote:
Reply to article by: (?. R. L. Measures)
Date written: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:12:29 -0700
MsgID:<_r-2606050912290001@192.168.1.100>
Jesus and the Father are one (John 10:30).
The only reason that people think differently is because they aren't
using their faith.
If they are one, how can they sit in two places side-by-side?
. With MPD, it's easy, and it takes only one throne.
That's one sick God you have there.
. It's not my God, it's the God that got the most votes from the "holy"
men at Nicaea in 325. 55-years thereafter, the Roman Church succeeded in
winning the franchise as the official religion of the Roman Empire. 25
years later, the Roman Church began baptising infants and celebrating
Mass. After a cushion of a few centuries, Tradition suceeded in selling
the idea that these things began in the 1st century instead of the 4th.
- "The church became the gilded crutch of absolutism."
- historian John Acton
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
And while you're at it, you could add that the Codex Sinaiticus , one of the
oldest (if not *the* oldest) copy of the complete bible contains two more
books of "Scripture" that some "men" decided were not *really* God's Word,
(The Epistle of Barnabas and The Shepherd of Hermes) so they chucked 'em. (I
guess the fundies will just argue that this was done because God had a
change of heart and divinely inspired them to do so.)
Greywolf
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus and God separate existence? |
03 Jul 2005 05:54:02 AM |
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The_Sage wrote:
Reply to article by: "fred" <clarma1@gmail.com>
Date written: 15 Jun 2005 16:39:06 -0700
MsgID:<1118878746.157339.234730@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Jesus and the Father are one (John 10:30).
The only reason that people think differently is because they aren't
using their faith.
If they are one, how can they sit in two places side-by-side?
The Sage
No problem.
they are both myths,
so anyone can sit anywhere!!!
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My Home Page : http://members.cox.net/the.sage
"Toward no crimes have men shown themselves so cold-bloodedly
cruel as in punishing differences in belief"
-- James Russell Lowell
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| User: "The_Sage" |
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03 Jul 2005 11:52:05 PM |
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Reply to article by: bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
Date written: 3 Jul 2005 00:54:02 -0500
MsgID:<42C77D03.9ED14455@netvigator.com>
Jesus and the Father are one (John 10:30).
The only reason that people think differently is because they aren't
using their faith.
If they are one, how can they sit in two places side-by-side?
No problem.
they are both myths,
so anyone can sit anywhere!!!
I appreciate your humor but technically you are completely incorrect, as
imaginary things cannot actually sit since they actually do not exist.
The Sage
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My Home Page : http://members.cox.net/the.sage
"Toward no crimes have men shown themselves so cold-bloodedly
cruel as in punishing differences in belief"
-- James Russell Lowell
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus and God separate existence? |
04 Jul 2005 05:47:09 AM |
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The_Sage wrote:
Reply to article by: bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
Date written: 3 Jul 2005 00:54:02 -0500
MsgID:<42C77D03.9ED14455@netvigator.com>
Jesus and the Father are one (John 10:30).
The only reason that people think differently is because they aren't
using their faith.
If they are one, how can they sit in two places side-by-side?
No problem.
they are both myths,
so anyone can sit anywhere!!!
I appreciate your humor but technically you are completely incorrect, as
imaginary things cannot actually sit since they actually do not exist.
The Sage
Good point. Must be the reason why you are 'The Sage'
'SAGE': Wise; Judicious; experienced. Solemn faced.
[hey I hope that is not you! lol]
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My Home Page : http://members.cox.net/the.sage
"Toward no crimes have men shown themselves so cold-bloodedly
cruel as in punishing differences in belief"
-- James Russell Lowell
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| User: "wcb" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus and God separate existence? |
15 Jun 2005 11:16:59 PM |
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Truth Hunter wrote:
Jesus and God separate existence?
Do you expect Jesus and his father to exist as separate entities in
heaven? References to Jesus 'sitting at God's right hand' seem to
suggest that they will, but it's a hard thing to understand.
The synoptic gospels definitely have Jesus seperate from
god. its a silly claim, as if the anonymous writers of
these contradictory books knew anythina bout this nonsense anyway.
God as Jesus was the main early gnostic idea that actually
was accepted in xinaty.
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When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
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