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22 Oct 2005 11:27:47 AM |
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Jesus died for your sins... but he isn't dead. |
Jesus died for your sins... but he isn't dead.
One of the main themes, obviously, of Christianity is that "Jesus died
for your sins". Jesus was supposedly crucified, and this made up for
all the sins of every human who has existed or ever will exist. He went
through a few days of torture, and that covers billions and billions of
people sins? And then he goes to heaven? what exactly is God
sacrificing? He sent his son to earth for 30something years, which is a
blink of an eye for a god, then brings him right back to heaven
forever. WTF?!? That's no sacrifice. Even if Jesus was sent to hell
forever, that still wouldn't be a sacrifice because if you're a God you
can have all the sons you want.
http://www.jewsforjudaism.org
Bumper Sticker
DIVINE INSANITY
God killed himself on the cross to save his own creation fro=ADm his own
wrath!(Author unknown)=20
One God, father-son-ghost?
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| User: "Larry Heath" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus died for your sins... but he isn't dead. |
22 Oct 2005 02:51:49 PM |
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"Truth Hunter" <hunter1234222@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1129998467.196162.121310@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Jesus died for your sins... but he isn't dead.
He didn't die for any sins, and that is because he never existed, therefore
can not be dead.
snip other
Later Larry
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| User: "DOC WATSON docwatson@yup" |
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23 Oct 2005 11:24:03 AM |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:51:49 -0400, "Larry Heath"
<lgheath@comcast.net> said the following funny stuff in this here
little old new 'froup:
He didn't die for any sins, and that is because he never existed, therefore
can not be dead.
You are entitle to your 'belief' erroneous though it is.
If you object to Christianity so much, then why are you invading
Christian groups?
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Confucious say: "Don't judge people by their relatives!"
Sign in feudin' homestead: "Friends Welcome. Relatives by Appointment.!"
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| User: "Larry Heath" |
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23 Oct 2005 06:13:18 PM |
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"DOC WATSON" <docwatson@yup> wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:51:49 -0400, "Larry Heath"
<lgheath@comcast.net> said the following funny stuff in this here
little old new 'froup:
He didn't die for any sins, and that is because he never existed,
therefore
can not be dead.
You are entitle to your 'belief' erroneous though it is.
Yes, I have a "belief", that is far less erroneous than that proposed by
your "faith", that Christians are so proud of and ultimately fall back on
when all logical means of support for there religion fails. Faith being
defined as a belief that does not rest on logical proof or material
evidence.
If you object to Christianity so much, then why are you invading
Christian groups?
Firstly I think you should address this question to the starter of this
thread, don't you? It is obvious that you are aware of this because you
trimmed the headers, which included alt.atheism as well as many others.
Which by the way I have replaced for you so everyone else can enjoy the
conversation as it was started. I surely don't need to preach to the choir
here in alt.atheism, to use a euphemism you might understand, some of the
other groups in the headers I do feel need some education shall we say, or
at the very least some exposure to differing points of view.
Secondly I am, let us say, offsetting all the proselytizing that Christians
do, anywhere and everywhere that the urge strikes them, and then get all
shitty, as it appears you are doing, if someone tells them there full of it
or to take there non-sense elsewhere or rub there nose in the host of
egregious errors, incongruities, logical disconnects and likely down-right
lies, posed by there single source of knowledge about there religion the
bible.
Thirdly if you don't like it, oh well, to bad for you! I and many others
have been forced to listen to religious nonsense for as many years as I can
remember, turnabout is fair play don't you think, no, I thought not.
Later Larry
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| User: "DOC WATSON docwatson@yup" |
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23 Oct 2005 09:17:44 PM |
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:13:18 -0400, "Larry Heath"
<lgheath@comcast.net> said the following funny stuff in this here
little old new 'froup:
Firstly I think you should address this question to the starter of this
thread, don't you? It is obvious that you are aware of this because you
trimmed the headers, which included alt.atheism as well as many others.
I just removed them again.
There is no valid reason for you to be carrying on like this in the
Christian groups. Obviously, you're a malevolent troll looking for an
argument.
--
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Sign in feudin' homestead: "Friends Welcome. Relatives by Appointment.!"
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25 Oct 2005 05:07:32 PM |
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"DOC WATSON" <docwatson@yup> wrote in message
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:13:18 -0400, "Larry Heath"
<lgheath@comcast.net> said the following funny stuff in this here
little old new 'froup:
Firstly I think you should address this question to the starter of this
thread, don't you? It is obvious that you are aware of this because you
trimmed the headers, which included alt.atheism as well as many others.
I just removed them again.
There is no valid reason for you to be carrying on like this in the
Christian groups. Obviously, you're a malevolent troll looking for an
argument.
Oh contraire, there is a most valid reason for me to be posting in the
"Christian" groups, that being to disagree with what you have to say, to
your intended audience, as well as point out that you are a hypocrite. It is
quite obvious that you feel it quite all right to post your drivel to
alt.atheism without trimming the headers in your discussion. As an example
we have this discussion between yourself and Duke:
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:35:00 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> said
the following funny stuff in this here little old new 'froup:
truthhunter is just plain dumb.
He does indeed sound like an unbeliever, unfortunately. But what are
you doing to encourage him to become a believer?
Lying about our Lord Jesus does nothing to promote Christ.
Nor does perverting the Bible GOD gave us.
Nor does blindly believing only what you're told you're allowed to
believe.
You do not quote the Scriptures accurately, duke. For the sake of a
non-believer hopefully becoming A BELIEVER, I urge you to stop trying
TO quote it until you LEARN what is in it.
As you will note above, you suggest to Duke that he should be encouraging
non-believers to convert to your brand of unfounded and unsubstantiated
drivel. You also abrade "Duke" indicating that he is as unlearned as the Doc
Watson.
I am simply suggesting to those in the "Religious Groups" that they may want
to look a little further afield than the bible and use there brain to
pragmatically look at all sides of the issue of religion in general. As well
as be aware that you place yourself in a pretty high pedestal, the quote
"Don't brake your own arm patting yourself on the back" comes to mind.
And there is this little ditty, again abrading "Duke" for being unwashed
and unworthy of conversing with the almighty know it all "Doc Watson" and I
quote:
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:33:07 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> said
the following funny stuff in this here little old new 'froup:
On 22 Oct 2005 09:27:47 -0700, "Truth Hunter" <hunter1234222@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Jesus died for your sins... but he isn't dead.
One of the main themes, obviously, of Christianity is that "Jesus died
for your sins". Jesus was supposedly crucified, and this made up for
all the sins of every human who has existed or ever will exist.
Man, are you screwed up, th. Jesus didn't die for every sin, but to return
salvation to souls.
If TH is 'screwed up, you are even worse.
So, in your warped romanist teachings, you imagine Jesus only paid for
certain sins?
Jesus paid the full price for our sins.
You PERVERT His Truths.
Gal 1:3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our
Lord Jesus Christ,
Gal 1:4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from
this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
Gal 1:5 To whom be glory forever and ever. Amen.
Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you
into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and
would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image
of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when
he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the
Majesty on high;
1Pe 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree,
that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose
stripes ye were healed.
1Jo 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours
only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1Jo 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and
in him is no sin.
1Jo 4:10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us,
and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the
first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth.
Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
Rev 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father;
to him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.
Your lies against our Lord Jesus are a total disgrace.
Secondly, to continue to sin after receiving the truth, it's katy, bar the
door.
Hebrews 10:26-27 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the
knowledge of
the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation
of
judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
Just thought you'd like to know that.
You need to REMEMBER it also, duke.
You commit sin every time you pervert the bible and what our Lord
Jesus taught, AND DID for mankind.
He went through a few days of torture,
Uh, don't you mean about 9 hours?
UH, how's that?
Actually, HE went through a lot more than 'about 9 hours'.
The mental torture when He prayed at Gethsemane --- knowing fully well
what was in store for him.
THAT, too, was torture.
The torture He suffered at the hands of the scum before being
crucified... the torture He suffered on the cross....
You seem to pass it all off as though 'only 9 hours of torture is
nothing' - but then, you romanists know all about torturing innocent
people, don't you?
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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Again to which I say, its all a bunch of hooey, and maybe some of the people
in the religious groups need a bit of prodding to become aware of this.
People use your brains, look at this childish diatribe between two self
appointed know-it-alls. They are babbling about mystic nonsense written 1500
to 1800 years ago, in a book that some of the more realistic theology
scholars freely admit is a fiction and should at best be treated as a
stepping stone to, at best, a way to an introspective personal mysticism.
These two, Duke and Doc Watson, remind me somewhat of a Mockingbird Dual,
that I once heard in my Grandmothers prized hedge, went on for hours, Gram
was ready to burn that hedge just to get shed of both of those silly birds.
Gram would send me out back and I'd run up and down that hedge and chase
them fool birds away, but they would just keep coming back and make more
racket. That was the longest Saturdays I can ever remember in my life.
For those that may not be aware of just what Mockingbird Dual is, its two
Mockingbirds that try to out sing one another. Think about this, two birds
that try to out do one another by singing the songs other birds as loud as
they can, they really don't have a clue what the heck there singing, but
loud and long is good. They just keep at it, one song after another, none of
which are truly their own songs, until one or the other gets tired and goes
away.
Too bad these two legged mocking birds couldn't just get tired and go away.
For it surely seems to me that neither knows what their singing, they just
keep repeating the words, over and over again, until everyone within the
sound of there voices is sick to death of hearing the din.
So I guess, even though Gram is long gone, I am still chasing the
mockingbirds, out of the hedges, so to speak .
Later Larry
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23 Oct 2005 09:50:12 PM |
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 22:17:44 -0400, DOC WATSON <docwatson@yup> wrote:
On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:13:18 -0400, "Larry Heath"
<lgheath@comcast.net> said the following funny stuff in this here
little old new 'froup:
Firstly I think you should address this question to the starter of this
thread, don't you? It is obvious that you are aware of this because you
trimmed the headers, which included alt.atheism as well as many others.
I just removed them again.
There is no valid reason for you to be carrying on like this in the
Christian groups. Obviously, you're a malevolent troll looking for an
argument.
Pretends the whining hypocrite who feels it is OK to cross post his
stupidity in an atheist newsgroup yet objects when he sees their
responses in his.
He must be a Christian. An aphorism about beams, motes and eyes comes
to mind. But these hypocrites imagine it doesn't apply to them.
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24 Oct 2005 10:15:35 AM |
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In article <1oiol1dujeq3siqbub87febe57rt21h7i2@4ax.com>, Christopher A.
Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 22:17:44 -0400, DOC WATSON <docwatson@yup> wrote:
On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:13:18 -0400, "Larry Heath"
<lgheath@comcast.net> said the following funny stuff in this here
little old new 'froup:
Firstly I think you should address this question to the starter of this
thread, don't you? It is obvious that you are aware of this because you
trimmed the headers, which included alt.atheism as well as many others.
I just removed them again.
There is no valid reason for you to be carrying on like this in the
Christian groups. Obviously, you're a malevolent troll looking for an
argument.
Pretends the whining hypocrite who feels it is OK to cross post his
stupidity in an atheist newsgroup yet objects when he sees their
responses in his.
He must be a Christian. An aphorism about beams, motes and eyes comes
to mind. But these hypocrites imagine it doesn't apply to them.
** Damn right!
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24 Oct 2005 05:59:20 PM |
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??R.L.Measures wrote:
There is no valid reason for you to be carrying on like this in the
Christian groups. Obviously, you're a malevolent troll looking for
an argument.
Pretends the whining hypocrite who feels it is OK to cross post his
stupidity in an atheist newsgroup yet objects when he sees their
responses in his.
He must be a Christian. An aphorism about beams, motes and eyes comes
to mind. But these hypocrites imagine it doesn't apply to them.
** Damn right!
He's one of the fun group in free.christians who keep telling all the others
that they are not true christians.
It would seem that the direction the sheep was facing when it mated with
another sheep who's off spring produced the wool that the kilt was made from
is just a small part of being a True Scotsman.
I left off a few hundred steps but you get the idea.
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25 Oct 2005 05:52:51 AM |
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In article <cHd7f.5622$BZ5.3180@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>, "Mike
Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
??R.L.Measures wrote:
There is no valid reason for you to be carrying on like this in the
Christian groups. Obviously, you're a malevolent troll looking for
an argument.
Pretends the whining hypocrite who feels it is OK to cross post his
stupidity in an atheist newsgroup yet objects when he sees their
responses in his.
He must be a Christian. An aphorism about beams, motes and eyes comes
to mind. But these hypocrites imagine it doesn't apply to them.
** Damn right!
He's one of the fun group in free.christians who keep telling all the others
that they are not true christians.
It would seem that the direction the sheep was facing when it mated with
another sheep who's off spring produced the wool that the kilt was made from
is just a small part of being a True Scotsman.
I left off a few hundred steps but you get the idea.
** yes, thanx
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23 Oct 2005 11:59:38 AM |
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"DOC WATSON" <docwatson@yup> wrote in message news:
If you object to Christianity so much, then why are you invading
Christian groups?
Only header: alt.atheism.
How fucking mad is *that*...?
Katt.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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23 Oct 2005 11:54:02 AM |
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 12:24:03 -0400, DOC WATSON <docwatson@yup> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:51:49 -0400, "Larry Heath"
<lgheath@comcast.net> said the following funny stuff in this here
little old new 'froup:
He didn't die for any sins, and that is because he never existed, therefore
can not be dead.
You are entitle to your 'belief' erroneous though it is.
Only to the brainwashed who imagine their delusions apply to
everybody.
You have to be pretty stupid postingto an atheist newshroup presuming
it were real.
If you object to Christianity so much, then why are you invading
Christian groups?
Check the newsgroups header, moron. Why are you posting to an atheist
newsgroup?
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22 Oct 2005 12:31:01 PM |
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"Truth Hunter" <hunter1234222@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1129998467.196162.121310@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Jesus died for your sins... but he isn't dead.
One of the main themes, obviously, of Christianity is that "Jesus died
for your sins". Jesus was supposedly crucified, and this made up for
all the sins of every human who has existed or ever will exist.
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How ignorant can a person be of Christianity? You must be going for the
record :
Matthew:7:21: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into
the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in
heaven.
Correct your glaring mistake and start all over.
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22 Oct 2005 01:04:59 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:31:01 -0400 in alt.atheism, Lion Of Judah
("Lion Of Judah" <sonman1@comcast.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
"Truth Hunter" <hunter1234222@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1129998467.196162.121310@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Jesus died for your sins... but he isn't dead.
One of the main themes, obviously, of Christianity is that "Jesus died
for your sins". Jesus was supposedly crucified, and this made up for
all the sins of every human who has existed or ever will exist.
-----
How ignorant can a person be of Christianity? You must be going for the
record :
Matthew:7:21: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into
the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in
heaven.
Correct your glaring mistake and start all over.
Jesus was mildly inconvenienced for our sins?
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| User: "€€R.L.Measures" |
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22 Oct 2005 06:44:45 PM |
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In article <7pvkl15m4kcee756llhcmfsc3vlfjgtq40@4ax.com>, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:31:01 -0400 in alt.atheism, Lion Of Judah
("Lion Of Judah" <sonman1@comcast.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
"Truth Hunter" <hunter1234222@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1129998467.196162.121310@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Jesus died for your sins... but he isn't dead.
One of the main themes, obviously, of Christianity is that "Jesus died
for your sins". Jesus was supposedly crucified, and this made up for
all the sins of every human who has existed or ever will exist.
-----
How ignorant can a person be of Christianity? You must be going for the
record :
Matthew:7:21: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into
the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in
heaven.
Correct your glaring mistake and start all over.
Jesus was mildly inconvenienced for our sins?
€€ That's more like it. Had Jesus died of old age, he would have
suffered more.
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22 Oct 2005 01:37:23 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:04:59 +0100, Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com>
wrote:
Jesus was mildly inconvenienced for our sins?
Uh, nooo. atheist. Jesus the man died on the cross. The Lord walked out of the
tomb.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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22 Oct 2005 12:43:39 PM |
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"Lion Of Judah" <sonman1@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:JZKdneqdbOL96sfeRVn-vA@comcast.com...
"Truth Hunter" <hunter1234222@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1129998467.196162.121310@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Jesus died for your sins... but he isn't dead.
One of the main themes, obviously, of Christianity is that "Jesus died
for your sins". Jesus was supposedly crucified, and this made up for
all the sins of every human who has existed or ever will exist.
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How ignorant can a person be of Christianity? You must be going for the
record :
Matthew:7:21: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter
into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which
is in heaven.
Correct your glaring mistake and start all over.
So what exactly did he die for?
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22 Oct 2005 02:25:04 PM |
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"Torch" <Torch@torch.com> wrote in message
news:djdto9$qup$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
"Lion Of Judah" <sonman1@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:JZKdneqdbOL96sfeRVn-vA@comcast.com...
"Truth Hunter" <hunter1234222@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1129998467.196162.121310@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Jesus died for your sins... but he isn't dead.
One of the main themes, obviously, of Christianity is that "Jesus died
for your sins". Jesus was supposedly crucified, and this made up for
all the sins of every human who has existed or ever will exist.
-----
How ignorant can a person be of Christianity? You must be going for the
record :
Matthew:7:21: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter
into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which
is in heaven.
Correct your glaring mistake and start all over.
So what exactly did he die for?
Jesus suffered and then entered into his Father's glory whereby he has
eternal life, and he now gives the Holy Ghost (the eternal Spirit of his
Father) to all who keep his commandments.
The short version :
John:7:38: He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his
belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39: (But this spake he of the Spirit [of the Father], which they that
believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because
that
*Jesus was not yet glorified* [in the Father].)
Ephesians:1:17: That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the *Father of
glory*, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the
knowledge of him:
Mark:11:23: For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say and shall
not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith
shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.
Luke:23:46: And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, *Father,
into thy hands I commend my spirit*: and having said thus, he gave up the
ghost.
Mark:8:38: Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in
this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be
ashamed, when he cometh *in the glory of his Father* with the holy angels.
Matthew:16:27: For the Son of man shall come *in the glory of his Father*
with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
John:14:2: In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I
would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3: And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive
you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
John:16:25: These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time
cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew
you plainly of the Father.
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Jesus died for your sins... but he isn't dead.
One of the main themes, obviously, of Christianity is that "Jesus died
for your sins". Jesus was supposedly crucified, and this made up for
all the sins of every human who has existed or ever will exist.
-----
How ignorant can a person be of Christianity? You must be going for the
record :
Matthew:7:21: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter
into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father
which is in heaven.
Correct your glaring mistake and start all over.
So what exactly did he die for?
Jesus suffered and then entered into his Father's glory whereby he has
eternal life, and he now gives the Holy Ghost (the eternal Spirit of his
Father) to all who keep his commandments.
The short version :
John:7:38: He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his
belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39: (But this spake he of the Spirit [of the Father], which they that
believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given;
because that
*Jesus was not yet glorified* [in the Father].)
Ephesians:1:17: That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the *Father of
glory*, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the
knowledge of him:
Mark:11:23: For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say and shall
not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith
shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.
Luke:23:46: And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, *Father,
into thy hands I commend my spirit*: and having said thus, he gave up the
ghost.
Mark:8:38: Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in
this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be
ashamed, when he cometh *in the glory of his Father* with the holy angels.
Matthew:16:27: For the Son of man shall come *in the glory of his Father*
with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his
works.
John:14:2: In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I
would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3: And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive
you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
John:16:25: These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time
cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew
you plainly of the Father.
Err.. sorry but does this answer the question "So what did he die for???" ?
are you saying he didnt die for our sins?.
Instead of quoting nonsensical babble could you could think for yourself and
please just answer the questions in English
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Jesus died for your sins... but he isn't dead.
One of the main themes, obviously, of Christianity is that "Jesus died
for your sins". Jesus was supposedly crucified, and this made up for
all the sins of every human who has existed or ever will exist.
-----
How ignorant can a person be of Christianity? You must be going for the
record :
Matthew:7:21: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter
into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father
which is in heaven.
Correct your glaring mistake and start all over.
So what exactly did he die for?
Jesus suffered and then entered into his Father's glory whereby he has
eternal life, and he now gives the Holy Ghost (the eternal Spirit of his
Father) to all who keep his commandments.
The short version :
John:7:38: He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of
his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39: (But this spake he of the Spirit [of the Father], which they that
believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given;
because that
*Jesus was not yet glorified* [in the Father].)
Ephesians:1:17: That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the *Father of
glory*, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the
knowledge of him:
Mark:11:23: For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say and shall
not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he
saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.
Luke:23:46: And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, *Father,
into thy hands I commend my spirit*: and having said thus, he gave up the
ghost.
Mark:8:38: Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in
this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man
be ashamed, when he cometh *in the glory of his Father* with the holy
angels.
Matthew:16:27: For the Son of man shall come *in the glory of his Father*
with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his
works.
John:14:2: In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I
would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3: And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and
receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
John:16:25: These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time
cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew
you plainly of the Father.
Err.. sorry but does this answer the question "So what did he die for???"
I can't help you if you're that stupid. Maybe usenet isn't where you ought
to be.
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22 Oct 2005 03:05:16 PM |
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Jesus died for your sins... but he isn't dead.
One of the main themes, obviously, of Christianity is that "Jesus died
for your sins". Jesus was supposedly crucified, and this made up for
all the sins of every human who has existed or ever will exist.
-----
How ignorant can a person be of Christianity? You must be going for
the record :
Matthew:7:21: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall
enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my
Father which is in heaven.
Correct your glaring mistake and start all over.
So what exactly did he die for?
Jesus suffered and then entered into his Father's glory whereby he has
eternal life, and he now gives the Holy Ghost (the eternal Spirit of his
Father) to all who keep his commandments.
The short version :
John:7:38: He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of
his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39: (But this spake he of the Spirit [of the Father], which they that
believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given;
because that
*Jesus was not yet glorified* [in the Father].)
Ephesians:1:17: That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the *Father of
glory*, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the
knowledge of him:
Mark:11:23: For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say and
shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which
he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.
Luke:23:46: And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said,
*Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit*: and having said thus, he
gave up the ghost.
Mark:8:38: Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in
this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man
be ashamed, when he cometh *in the glory of his Father* with the holy
angels.
Matthew:16:27: For the Son of man shall come *in the glory of his
Father* with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to
his works.
John:14:2: In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I
would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3: And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and
receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
John:16:25: These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the
time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I
shall shew you plainly of the Father.
Err.. sorry but does this answer the question "So what did he die
for???"
I can't help you if you're that stupid. Maybe usenet isn't where you ought
to be.
So help me Lion - just answer the question - did he die for our sins or
not?? its pretty simple
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22 Oct 2005 03:10:01 PM |
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Jesus died for your sins... but he isn't dead.
One of the main themes, obviously, of Christianity is that "Jesus
died
for your sins". Jesus was supposedly crucified, and this made up for
all the sins of every human who has existed or ever will exist.
-----
How ignorant can a person be of Christianity? You must be going for
the record :
Matthew:7:21: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall
enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my
Father which is in heaven.
Correct your glaring mistake and start all over.
So what exactly did he die for?
Jesus suffered and then entered into his Father's glory whereby he has
eternal life, and he now gives the Holy Ghost (the eternal Spirit of
his Father) to all who keep his commandments.
The short version :
John:7:38: He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of
his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39: (But this spake he of the Spirit [of the Father], which they that
believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given;
because that
*Jesus was not yet glorified* [in the Father].)
Ephesians:1:17: That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the *Father of
glory*, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the
knowledge of him:
Mark:11:23: For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say and
shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which
he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.
Luke:23:46: And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said,
*Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit*: and having said thus, he
gave up the ghost.
Mark:8:38: Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words
in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of
man be ashamed, when he cometh *in the glory of his Father* with the
holy angels.
Matthew:16:27: For the Son of man shall come *in the glory of his
Father* with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according
to his works.
John:14:2: In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I
would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3: And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and
receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
John:16:25: These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the
time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I
shall shew you plainly of the Father.
Err.. sorry but does this answer the question "So what did he die
for???"
I can't help you if you're that stupid. Maybe usenet isn't where you
ought to be.
So help me Lion - just answer the question - did he die for our sins or
not?? its pretty simple
No he did not die for our sins, he suffered and then entered into his
Father's glory to prepare a place for those whom his Father gave him to.
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22 Oct 2005 03:36:42 PM |
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Jesus died for your sins... but he isn't dead.
One of the main themes, obviously, of Christianity is that "Jesus
died
for your sins". Jesus was supposedly crucified, and this made up for
all the sins of every human who has existed or ever will exist.
-----
How ignorant can a person be of Christianity? You must be going for
the record :
Matthew:7:21: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall
enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my
Father which is in heaven.
Correct your glaring mistake and start all over.
So what exactly did he die for?
Jesus suffered and then entered into his Father's glory whereby he has
eternal life, and he now gives the Holy Ghost (the eternal Spirit of
his Father) to all who keep his commandments.
The short version :
John:7:38: He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of
his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39: (But this spake he of the Spirit [of the Father], which they that
believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given;
because that
*Jesus was not yet glorified* [in the Father].)
Ephesians:1:17: That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the *Father of
glory*, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the
knowledge of him:
Mark:11:23: For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say and
shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things
which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.
Luke:23:46: And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said,
*Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit*: and having said thus, he
gave up the ghost.
Mark:8:38: Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words
in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of
man be ashamed, when he cometh *in the glory of his Father* with the
holy angels.
Matthew:16:27: For the Son of man shall come *in the glory of his
Father* with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according
to his works.
John:14:2: In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so,
I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3: And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and
receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
John:16:25: These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the
time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I
shall shew you plainly of the Father.
Err.. sorry but does this answer the question "So what did he die
for???"
I can't help you if you're that stupid. Maybe usenet isn't where you
ought to be.
So help me Lion - just answer the question - did he die for our sins or
not?? its pretty simple
No he did not die for our sins, he suffered and then entered into his
Father's glory to prepare a place for those whom his Father gave him to.
Ok Liion you are right I am stupid and a retard because I just cant get
this - you see when I look at the bible I see things like this:
Cor 5.21 "He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, that we might
become the righteousness of God in Him."
Peter 2:24 "and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, that we
might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were
healed."
Rom 8:3-4 "For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh,
God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an
offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh. 4in order that the
requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according
to the flesh, but according to the Spirit."
I seek your guidance on this apparant contradiction - I am too stupid and
retarded to understand it
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23 Oct 2005 06:56:49 AM |
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"Lion Of Judah" <sonman1@comcast.net> wrote in message
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So help me Lion - just answer the question - did he die for our sins or
not?? its pretty simple
No he did not die for our sins, he suffered and then entered into his
Father's glory to prepare a place for those whom his Father gave him to.
If I was a Christian I would have said that his human side died.
Oh well, you had your chance and you blew it.
--
Andrew W.
Beware of invisible entities that coerce you into a life of worship and
sacrifice.
Beware of any being who offers you a gift in the form of death and
suffering.
Beware of any religion that makes free-mindedness a crime.
Free-mindedness is foolishness to those whose brains are perishing.
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
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"Andrew W" <removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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"Lion Of Judah" <sonman1@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"Torch" <Torch@torch.com> wrote in message
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So help me Lion - just answer the question - did he die for our sins or
not?? its pretty simple
No he did not die for our sins, he suffered and then entered into his
Father's glory to prepare a place for those whom his Father gave him to.
If I was a Christian I would have said that his human side died.
Oh well, you had your chance and you blew it.
His human side never dies, that's why his mercy endureth for ever and ever.
You are far too judgemental with your baloney "you blew it" lie.
Judge not, lest ye be judged.
--
Andrew W.
Beware of invisible entities that coerce you into a life of worship and
sacrifice.
Beware of any being who offers you a gift in the form of death and
suffering.
Beware of any religion that makes free-mindedness a crime.
Free-mindedness is foolishness to those whose brains are perishing.
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
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23 Oct 2005 07:45:44 AM |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:31:01 -0400, "Lion Of Judah"
<sonman1@comcast.net> wrote:
"Truth Hunter" <hunter1234222@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1129998467.196162.121310@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Jesus died for your sins... but he isn't dead.
One of the main themes, obviously, of Christianity is that "Jesus died
for your sins". Jesus was supposedly crucified, and this made up for
all the sins of every human who has existed or ever will exist.
-----
How ignorant can a person be of Christianity? You must be going for the
record :
Matthew:7:21: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into
the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in
heaven.
Correct your glaring mistake and start all over.
What error would that be? Does Christian doctrine say that Jesus died
for all mankind or not? Was his sacrifice sufficient to pay for all
sin or not? Correct your glaring dishonesty and start all over.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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23 Oct 2005 10:16:15 AM |
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"thomas p" <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:31:01 -0400, "Lion Of Judah"
<sonman1@comcast.net> wrote:
"Truth Hunter" <hunter1234222@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1129998467.196162.121310@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Jesus died for your sins... but he isn't dead.
One of the main themes, obviously, of Christianity is that "Jesus died
for your sins". Jesus was supposedly crucified, and this made up for
all the sins of every human who has existed or ever will exist.
-----
How ignorant can a person be of Christianity? You must be going for the
record :
Matthew:7:21: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter
into
the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in
heaven.
Correct your glaring mistake and start all over.
What error would that be? Does Christian doctrine say that Jesus died
for all mankind or not?
I just answered your question you stupid *****. I showed you what Christian
doctrine teaches in Matt:7:21 and you are still pretending like a damned
fool not to understand?
Was his sacrifice sufficient to pay for all
sin or not?
Try reading it again, you silly little twat.
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| User: "thomas p" |
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23 Oct 2005 01:39:36 PM |
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:16:15 -0400, "Lion Of Judah"
<sonman1@comcast.net> wrote:
"thomas p" <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:31:01 -0400, "Lion Of Judah"
<sonman1@comcast.net> wrote:
"Truth Hunter" <hunter1234222@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1129998467.196162.121310@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Jesus died for your sins... but he isn't dead.
One of the main themes, obviously, of Christianity is that "Jesus died
for your sins". Jesus was supposedly crucified, and this made up for
all the sins of every human who has existed or ever will exist.
-----
How ignorant can a person be of Christianity? You must be going for the
record :
Matthew:7:21: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter
into
the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in
heaven.
Correct your glaring mistake and start all over.
What error would that be? Does Christian doctrine say that Jesus died
for all mankind or not?
I just answered your question you stupid *****. I showed you what Christian
doctrine teaches in Matt:7:21 and you are still pretending like a damned
fool not to understand?
One cannot show what Christian doctrine actually is by quoting the
Bible. Christian doctrine is what Christian churches teach. I was
raised in one of the largest sects in the world and was taught that
Jesus died for all of mankind. I know for a fact that the other major
sects teach exactly the same thing. No doubt all of those churches
can find support for their views in the Bible, just as others can find
support for opposing views in the same book. The relevant point is
what the churches actually teach, i.e. what their doctrine actually
is.
Was his sacrifice sufficient to pay for all
sin or not?
Try reading it again, you silly little twat.
I hope that you will not be disappointed but I do not feel like
exhanging pointless insults with you. Feel free, however, to continue
posting them.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "Torch" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus died for your sins... but he isn't dead. |
23 Oct 2005 12:34:58 PM |
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"thomas p" <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:31:01 -0400, "Lion Of Judah"
<sonman1@comcast.net> wrote:
"Truth Hunter" <hunter1234222@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1129998467.196162.121310@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Jesus died for your sins... but he isn't dead.
One of the main themes, obviously, of Christianity is that "Jesus died
for your sins". Jesus was supposedly crucified, and this made up for
all the sins of every human who has existed or ever will exist.
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How ignorant can a person be of Christianity? You must be going for the
record :
Matthew:7:21: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter
into
the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in
heaven.
Correct your glaring mistake and start all over.
What error would that be? Does Christian doctrine say that Jesus died
for all mankind or not? Was his sacrifice sufficient to pay for all
sin or not? Correct your glaring dishonesty and start all over.
You have to kick him a lot harder than that to get a straight answer - after
half a dozen exchanges I finally got this out of him:
"No he did not die for our sins, he suffered and then entered into his
Father's glory to prepare a place for those whom his Father gave him to. "
Lion of Judah
It seems Lion is making it up as he goes along - but then thats how they
wrote the incoherent bible in the first place.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus died for your sins... but he isn't dead. |
22 Oct 2005 01:35:00 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:31:01 -0400, "Lion Of Judah" <sonman1@comcast.net> wrote:
"Truth Hunter" <hunter1234222@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1129998467.196162.121310@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Jesus died for your sins... but he isn't dead.
One of the main themes, obviously, of Christianity is that "Jesus died
for your sins". Jesus was supposedly crucified, and this made up for
all the sins of every human who has existed or ever will exist.
How ignorant can a person be of Christianity? You must be going for the
record :
Matthew:7:21: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into
the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in
heaven.
Correct your glaring mistake and start all over.
truthhunter is just plain dumb.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Torch" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus died for your sins... but he isn't dead. |
22 Oct 2005 02:02:06 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:31:01 -0400, "Lion Of Judah" <sonman1@comcast.net>
wrote:
"Truth Hunter" <hunter1234222@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1129998467.196162.121310@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Jesus died for your sins... but he isn't dead.
One of the main themes, obviously, of Christianity is that "Jesus died
for your sins". Jesus was supposedly crucified, and this made up for
all the sins of every human who has existed or ever will exist.
How ignorant can a person be of Christianity? You must be going for the
record :
Matthew:7:21: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter
into
the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in
heaven.
Correct your glaring mistake and start all over.
truthhunter is just plain dumb.
Ok so truthhunter is dumb - lion of judah doesn't answers questions - so
lets hear it from you
What did he die for????
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