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26 Feb 2007 08:59:44 PM |
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What a hoot :-)
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/26/070226170455.29857e84.html
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26 Feb 2007 11:58:12 PM |
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<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
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What a hoot :-)
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/26/070226170455.29857e84.html
atheist@home#1554
So is Easter cancelled now? ;)
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27 Feb 2007 02:39:52 PM |
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"Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" <stoshu@bellsouth.net.po> wrote in message
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<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
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What a hoot :-)
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/26/070226170455.29857e84.html
atheist@home#1554
So is Easter cancelled now? ;)
Well! I'm still going out to brunch with the family ;)
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27 Feb 2007 12:42:15 AM |
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On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:58:12 -0800, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"
<stoshu@bellsouth.net.po> wrote:
<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
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What a hoot :-)
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/26/070226170455.29857e84.html
atheist@home#1554
So is Easter cancelled now? ;)
Weird isn't it?
They keep screeching for people to "Find Jesus" and when it looks like
it may have been done they get all jacked up over it.
I'm curious as to why the "experts" are so sure its not him.
This could be really funny but it will probably die down pretty
quickly.
On the other hand it might be dangerous and sad if a number of experts
agree the find is probably what its claimed to be.
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27 Feb 2007 02:40:27 PM |
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<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:58:12 -0800, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"
<stoshu@bellsouth.net.po> wrote:
<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
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What a hoot :-)
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/26/070226170455.29857e84.html
atheist@home#1554
So is Easter cancelled now? ;)
Weird isn't it?
They keep screeching for people to "Find Jesus" and when it looks like
it may have been done they get all jacked up over it.
I think that's because they didn't mean "Find dead Jesus" ;)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
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27 Feb 2007 05:34:47 PM |
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On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:40:27 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:58:12 -0800, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"
<stoshu@bellsouth.net.po> wrote:
<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
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What a hoot :-)
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/26/070226170455.29857e84.html
atheist@home#1554
So is Easter cancelled now? ;)
Weird isn't it?
They keep screeching for people to "Find Jesus" and when it looks like
it may have been done they get all jacked up over it.
I think that's because they didn't mean "Find dead Jesus" ;)
According to a news report I read this morning Jesus has appeared to
the producers of the documentary demanding a 10% tithe as His cut of
the profits from the showing.
He was appreciative of the find and thanked Cameron profusely
explaining that the skeleton was inadvertently left behind during His
accension <It was His first time to do such a thing so he was unsure
of the proper procedure> and that for the past two thousand years His
resurrected body has been unable to fuction properly without it.
<Apparently the remains were removed from the original tomb making it
impossible for His angels to locate them and He didn't know they had
been left behind until His Father told Him to sit up straight on His
throne which He could not do>
He claimed the reason He hasn't been more involved in human activities
for the past two thousand years is because its very difficult to walk
from village to village doing miracles and spreading the word without
a skeleton.
A spokeswoman for PETA says the organization is very excited that He
has decided to become more involved with things of this Earth and
hopes He will act as a spokeman in their attempt to pass federal laws
banning the raising of boneless chickens.
She said something to the effect that no living creature should be
forced to live without a skeleton, that it's the nature of the chicken
to strut about scratching and pecking the Earth and boneless chickens
are doomed to spend their short lives pitiifully flopping about the
barnyard rather than live their lives to the fullest as God intended.
Its all becoming very interesting.
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27 Feb 2007 02:50:47 PM |
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On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:42:15 -0600, wrote:
Weird isn't it?
They keep screeching for people to "Find Jesus" and when it looks like
it may have been done they get all jacked up over it.
The Great Schism of the 21st Century.
In the future we'll see one group of sects that believe that the bones
are those of Jesus, Mary and Judah and another group that believes
that Jesus was physically resurrected, so the bones can't be his.
I'm curious as to why the "experts" are so sure its not him.
Because the Bible says that his body went to heaven. Didn't you get
the memo?
On the other hand it might be dangerous and sad if a number of experts
agree the find is probably what its claimed to be.
I doubt that all of Christianity will agree on this one. We'll have
those who claim that this is objective evidence that Jesus existed,
and those who claim that it has to be fake.
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27 Feb 2007 04:42:56 AM |
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<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
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What a hoot :-)
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/26/070226170455.29857e84.html
It would be great if this claim could be proven definitively. I don't see
how it could be, though.
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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26 Feb 2007 10:37:06 PM |
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<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
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What a hoot :-)
Would the one ossuary say Jesus or Yehashua? So,
would the kid be the son of Jesus or the son of
Joshua? After all, isn't Jesus a later form of Joshua?
And, weren't all the names found very common names
at the time?
Has Cameron's career been on the skids lately?
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/26/070226170455.29857e84.html
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| User: "Darrell Stec" |
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27 Feb 2007 12:57:32 AM |
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After serious contemplation, on or about Monday 26 February 2007 11:37
pm Michelle Malkin perhaps from wrote:
<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
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What a hoot :-)
Would the one ossuary say Jesus or Yehashua? So,
would the kid be the son of Jesus or the son of
Joshua? After all, isn't Jesus a later form of Joshua?
No. Jesus is the English form of Iesous. In Greek the same exact name
is used and in English it is Joshua. It is just the translators being
purposefully deceptive to make the NT Joshua seem different. The name
Iesous/Joshua was selected for several reasons in the fable. One
reason is that quite a few stories are remenicient of the OT Joshua
(and other OT stories. Another is that is was a very, very common name
and stands as a substitute like our English John Doe.
And secondarily Christ christos is used as a name when it is more like
an adjective. The exact same word was used for King David, King
Darius, a rock, two pillars, a loaf of bread, and a donkey in the Old
Testament. In Acts two different people other than Joshua were called
christos. The word simply means oiled one or thing. In Hebrew the
exact same word translates to messiah and it too simply meant oiled one
or thing.
And, weren't all the names found very common names
at the time?
Has Cameron's career been on the skids lately?
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/26/070226170455.29857e84.html
atheist@home#1554
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Later,
Darrell Stec
Webpage Sorcery
http://webpagesorcery.com
We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
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27 Feb 2007 08:26:35 AM |
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Michelle Malkin <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in alt.atheism
<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
What a hoot :-)
Would the one ossuary say Jesus or Yehashua? So,
would the kid be the son of Jesus or the son of
Joshua? After all, isn't Jesus a later form of Joshua?
And, weren't all the names found very common names
at the time?
Has Cameron's career been on the skids lately?
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/26/070226170455.29857e84.html
It looks like the other director, Simcha Jacobvici, is the Naked
Archaeologist.
http://www.visiontv.ca/NakedArchaeologist/who_is_he.htm
He's probably out for some bucks and notoriety just as much as
Cameron is.
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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27 Feb 2007 02:41:43 PM |
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On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:37:06 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
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What a hoot :-)
Would the one ossuary say Jesus or Yehashua? So,
would the kid be the son of Jesus or the son of
Joshua? After all, isn't Jesus a later form of Joshua?
It's just a made-up name to make him different from all the other
Joshuas that have existed through time.
And, weren't all the names found very common names
at the time?
Sure were. The odds that someone had a wife named Mary and a son
named Judah were, from what I heard this morning, about 600:1. Since
there were about 30,000 men in Jerusalem at the time, that means that
there could have been about 50 families in Jerusalem with those names
at that time.
Add to that the fact that there were Greek inscriptions on one ossuary
- something unlikely for a Jew of the time - and we have another
"Forgery of Turin".
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| User: "Darrell Stec" |
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27 Feb 2007 08:00:21 PM |
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After serious contemplation, on or about Tuesday 27 February 2007 3:41
pm Al Klein perhaps from rukbat@pern.invalid wrote:
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:37:06 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
news:ni77u2pkoaf9k78cu91ap2jj88lsqe17k6@4ax.com...
What a hoot :-)
Would the one ossuary say Jesus or Yehashua? So,
would the kid be the son of Jesus or the son of
Joshua? After all, isn't Jesus a later form of Joshua?
It's just a made-up name to make him different from all the other
Joshuas that have existed through time.
And, weren't all the names found very common names
at the time?
Sure were. The odds that someone had a wife named Mary and a son
named Judah were, from what I heard this morning, about 600:1. Since
there were about 30,000 men in Jerusalem at the time, that means that
there could have been about 50 families in Jerusalem with those names
at that time.
Add to that the fact that there were Greek inscriptions on one ossuary
- something unlikely for a Jew of the time - and we have another
"Forgery of Turin".
Hold on a minute. In all the NT manuscripts Jesus spoke in Greek (or at
least the gospel writers quoted him in Greek unless he spoke Coptic as
portrayed in the Coptic manuscripts). Even Peter (epistle) wrote in a
polished Greek. And now you're saying that could be a forgery? :-P
Now I'm going to worry about the True Nail I bought from some gypsy who
assured me it was one of the genuine three (cross her heart, or maybe
that was fingers). I mean her reading was accurate. She told me I was
going to meet somebody soon (in my business I meet a lot of people).
It would be a tall stranger. Very true because I am rather short of
stature and almost everyone is taller than I am. She said a lot of
wrong things too but nobody can be 100% correct all the time, except
for our resident fundies.
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Later,
Darrell Stec
Webpage Sorcery
http://webpagesorcery.com
We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
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28 Feb 2007 12:48:41 AM |
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"Darrell Stec" <darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote in message
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After serious contemplation, on or about Tuesday 27 February 2007 3:41
pm Al Klein perhaps from rukbat@pern.invalid wrote:
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:37:06 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
news:ni77u2pkoaf9k78cu91ap2jj88lsqe17k6@4ax.com...
What a hoot :-)
Would the one ossuary say Jesus or Yehashua? So,
would the kid be the son of Jesus or the son of
Joshua? After all, isn't Jesus a later form of Joshua?
It's just a made-up name to make him different from all the other
Joshuas that have existed through time.
And, weren't all the names found very common names
at the time?
Sure were. The odds that someone had a wife named Mary and a son
named Judah were, from what I heard this morning, about 600:1. Since
there were about 30,000 men in Jerusalem at the time, that means that
there could have been about 50 families in Jerusalem with those names
at that time.
Add to that the fact that there were Greek inscriptions on one ossuary
- something unlikely for a Jew of the time - and we have another
"Forgery of Turin".
Hold on a minute. In all the NT manuscripts Jesus spoke in Greek (or at
least the gospel writers quoted him in Greek unless he spoke Coptic as
portrayed in the Coptic manuscripts). Even Peter (epistle) wrote in a
polished Greek. And now you're saying that could be a forgery? :-P
I think the common language there at the time
was Aramaic.
Now I'm going to worry about the True Nail I bought from some gypsy who
assured me it was one of the genuine three (cross her heart, or maybe
that was fingers). I mean her reading was accurate. She told me I was
going to meet somebody soon (in my business I meet a lot of people).
It would be a tall stranger. Very true because I am rather short of
stature and almost everyone is taller than I am. She said a lot of
wrong things too but nobody can be 100% correct all the time, except
for our resident fundies.
--
Later,
Darrell Stec
Webpage Sorcery
http://webpagesorcery.com
We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
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28 Feb 2007 03:19:39 PM |
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After serious contemplation, on or about Wednesday 28 February 2007 1:48
am Michelle Malkin perhaps from wrote:
"Darrell Stec" <darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote in message
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After serious contemplation, on or about Tuesday 27 February 2007
3:41 pm Al Klein perhaps from rukbat@pern.invalid wrote:
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:37:06 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
< > wrote:
<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
news:ni77u2pkoaf9k78cu91ap2jj88lsqe17k6@4ax.com...
What a hoot :-)
Would the one ossuary say Jesus or Yehashua? So,
would the kid be the son of Jesus or the son of
Joshua? After all, isn't Jesus a later form of Joshua?
It's just a made-up name to make him different from all the other
Joshuas that have existed through time.
And, weren't all the names found very common names
at the time?
Sure were. The odds that someone had a wife named Mary and a son
named Judah were, from what I heard this morning, about 600:1.
Since there were about 30,000 men in Jerusalem at the time, that
means that there could have been about 50 families in Jerusalem with
those names at that time.
Add to that the fact that there were Greek inscriptions on one
ossuary - something unlikely for a Jew of the time - and we have
another "Forgery of Turin".
Hold on a minute. In all the NT manuscripts Jesus spoke in Greek (or
at least the gospel writers quoted him in Greek unless he spoke
Coptic as
portrayed in the Coptic manuscripts). Even Peter (epistle) wrote in
a
polished Greek. And now you're saying that could be a forgery? :-P
I think the common language there at the time
was Aramaic.
That depends upon the definition of THEN. There is no evidence any of
the New Testament was written in the first century and many, many
indications that the books were written in the first half of the second
century. In addition Greek was the official language of the courts and
the educated even in Palestine. By the time the New Testament was
written Jews were not allowed in the Jerusalem and surrounding area
under penalty of death.
And there is nothing to indicate any book of the New Testament was
translated from Aramaic.
One indication of the disuse of Aramaic comes from the almost non
existence of works in Aramaic among the Dead Sea Scrolls.
The New Testament Joshua was created out of the Greek version of the Old
Testament and only the Torah and a few Psalms had been translated into
Greek by the end of the first century CE.
Now I'm going to worry about the True Nail I bought from some gypsy
who assured me it was one of the genuine three (cross her heart, or
maybe
that was fingers). I mean her reading was accurate. She told me I
was going to meet somebody soon (in my business I meet a lot of
people).
It would be a tall stranger. Very true because I am rather short of
stature and almost everyone is taller than I am. She said a lot of
wrong things too but nobody can be 100% correct all the time, except
for our resident fundies.
--
Later,
Darrell Stec
Webpage Sorcery
http://webpagesorcery.com
We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
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Later,
Darrell Stec
Webpage Sorcery
http://webpagesorcery.com
We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
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27 Feb 2007 09:41:53 PM |
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On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:00:21 -0500, Darrell Stec
<darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote:
Now I'm going to worry about the True Nail I bought from some gypsy who
assured me it was one of the genuine three (cross her heart, or maybe
that was fingers).
You had me going ... until this part. Then it struck me - you're one
o'them Gawdless Athesitas!
I mean her reading was accurate. She told me I was
going to meet somebody soon (in my business I meet a lot of people).
It would be a tall stranger. Very true because I am rather short of
stature and almost everyone is taller than I am. She said a lot of
wrong things too but nobody can be 100% correct all the time, except
for our resident fundies.
Would you settle for 100% consistent? Consistently nuts?
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27 Feb 2007 12:36:41 AM |
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On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:37:06 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
news:ni77u2pkoaf9k78cu91ap2jj88lsqe17k6@4ax.com...
What a hoot :-)
Would the one ossuary say Jesus or Yehashua? So,
would the kid be the son of Jesus or the son of
Joshua? After all, isn't Jesus a later form of Joshua?
And, weren't all the names found very common names
at the time?
Very common.
Doesn't mean its not the Jesus gang though.
Has Cameron's career been on the skids lately?
I'm not familiar with him.
He's going to ***** off some Christians though.
Its already started.
Read this bit of idiocy:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/2/26/204743.shtml
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/26/070226170455.29857e84.html
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26 Feb 2007 10:17:00 PM |
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atheist@home.com:
What a hoot :-)
Hey, that could be fun. Let's assume for a moment this is really the tomb of
jebus (unlikely as it is *eg*)...
....how exactly would the cultists claim that this is not the real gawdman
(as the real one mustn't have been married et al)? A whole new discipline
of reality denial would emerge... :)
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"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
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27 Feb 2007 12:58:46 AM |
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On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 05:17:00 +0100, "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"
<MAILTOsecretary@carcosa.de> wrote:
atheist@home.com:
What a hoot :-)
Hey, that could be fun. Let's assume for a moment this is really the tomb of
jebus (unlikely as it is *eg*)...
...how exactly would the cultists claim that this is not the real gawdman
(as the real one mustn't have been married et al)? A whole new discipline
of reality denial would emerge... :)
Until recently I was very tolerant of Christians and their silliness
but I'm afraid I'm not so much anymore.
Their ability to rationalize, deny the truth and justify their warped
thinking sort of spooks me now.
No matter what comes out of this, if its not in their favor, they will
come up with all sorts of crazy stuff that to us appears to be insane
but to them makes perfectly good sense.
atheist@home#1554
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26 Feb 2007 11:09:31 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"
<MAILTOsecretary@carcosa.de> bloodied us up with this:
atheist@home.com:
What a hoot :-)
Hey, that could be fun. Let's assume for a moment this is really the
tomb of jebus (unlikely as it is *eg*)...
...how exactly would the cultists claim that this is not the real
gawdman (as the real one mustn't have been married et al)? A whole new
discipline of reality denial would emerge... :)
If they *can* prove this is the body of Jesus, doesn't that prove their
religion to be a crock of *****? No resurrection, no christianity, right?
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack. Plonked by Fester.
Member Duke Spanking Club.
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27 Feb 2007 12:13:41 AM |
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In article <Xns98E3D745C3480vicman@66.250.146.128>,
Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"
<MAILTOsecretary@carcosa.de> bloodied us up with this:
atheist@home.com:
What a hoot :-)
Hey, that could be fun. Let's assume for a moment this is really the
tomb of jebus (unlikely as it is *eg*)...
...how exactly would the cultists claim that this is not the real
gawdman (as the real one mustn't have been married et al)? A whole new
discipline of reality denial would emerge... :)
If they *can* prove this is the body of Jesus, doesn't that prove their
religion to be a crock of *****? No resurrection, no christianity, right?
Especially if tests also show that he had no crucifixion wounds and
probably died peacefully of old age.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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27 Feb 2007 12:32:55 AM |
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On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:13:41 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <Xns98E3D745C3480vicman@66.250.146.128>,
Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"
<MAILTOsecretary@carcosa.de> bloodied us up with this:
atheist@home.com:
What a hoot :-)
Hey, that could be fun. Let's assume for a moment this is really the
tomb of jebus (unlikely as it is *eg*)...
...how exactly would the cultists claim that this is not the real
gawdman (as the real one mustn't have been married et al)? A whole new
discipline of reality denial would emerge... :)
If they *can* prove this is the body of Jesus, doesn't that prove their
religion to be a crock of *****? No resurrection, no christianity, right?
Especially if tests also show that he had no crucifixion wounds and
probably died peacefully of old age.
I saw a documentary years and years ago in which crucified remains had
been found in a tomb and the name was Jesus.
And then nothing.
But even the people who made the documentary didn't so much as suggest
it was the Jesus of the Bible.
atheist@home#1554
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus Found? |
27 Feb 2007 05:55:09 PM |
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In article <5uj7u2lnn0qurq5na235n9ahipcvt1gfmk@4ax.com>,
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On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:13:41 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <Xns98E3D745C3480vicman@66.250.146.128>,
Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"
<MAILTOsecretary@carcosa.de> bloodied us up with this:
:
What a hoot :-)
Hey, that could be fun. Let's assume for a moment this is really the
tomb of jebus (unlikely as it is *eg*)...
...how exactly would the cultists claim that this is not the real
gawdman (as the real one mustn't have been married et al)? A whole new
discipline of reality denial would emerge... :)
If they *can* prove this is the body of Jesus, doesn't that prove their
religion to be a crock of *****? No resurrection, no christianity, right?
Especially if tests also show that he had no crucifixion wounds and
probably died peacefully of old age.
I saw a documentary years and years ago in which crucified remains had
been found in a tomb and the name was Jesus.
And then nothing.
But even the people who made the documentary didn't so much as suggest
it was the Jesus of the Bible.
Yes. Apparently 'Jesus', or more properly 'Yeshua', was a rather common
name in those times.
atheist@home#1554
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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27 Feb 2007 08:48:41 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, bloodied us up with this:
I saw a documentary years and years ago in which crucified remains had
been found in a tomb and the name was Jesus.
And then nothing.
But even the people who made the documentary didn't so much as suggest
it was the Jesus of the Bible.
Probably Jesus, the gardenero.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack. Plonked by Fester.
Member Duke Spanking Club.
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| User: "" |
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27 Feb 2007 12:46:15 AM |
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On 27 Feb 2007 05:09:31 GMT, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"
<MAILTOsecretary@carcosa.de> bloodied us up with this:
atheist@home.com:
What a hoot :-)
Hey, that could be fun. Let's assume for a moment this is really the
tomb of jebus (unlikely as it is *eg*)...
...how exactly would the cultists claim that this is not the real
gawdman (as the real one mustn't have been married et al)? A whole new
discipline of reality denial would emerge... :)
If they *can* prove this is the body of Jesus, doesn't that prove their
religion to be a crock of *****? No resurrection, no christianity, right?
Without some sort of paper work, a scroll or two for instance it can't
be proven one way or the other.
Very common names apparently and one expert has already stated the
names are a coincidence.
atheist@home#1554
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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27 Feb 2007 12:45:54 PM |
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Uncle Vic:
If they *can* prove this is the body of Jesus, doesn't that prove their
religion to be a crock of *****? No resurrection, no christianity, right?
I wouldn't be too surprised to (in that case) hear from them that suddenly,
surprisingly, "da wholly babble was speaking about spiritiual resurrection
all along!!!11!!!!". I mean, them morontheists are so totally full of it,
why stop at that point?
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
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| User: "Darrell Stec" |
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27 Feb 2007 01:02:45 PM |
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After serious contemplation, on or about Tuesday 27 February 2007 1:45
pm Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian perhaps from
wrote:
Uncle Vic:
If they *can* prove this is the body of Jesus, doesn't that prove
their
religion to be a crock of *****? No resurrection, no christianity,
right?
I wouldn't be too surprised to (in that case) hear from them that
suddenly, surprisingly, "da wholly babble was speaking about
spiritiual resurrection all along!!!11!!!!". I mean, them morontheists
are so totally full of it, why stop at that point?
And thus Christianity would travel full circle back to the beginnings
before proto-orthodoxy and orthodoxy killed off the dissenters and
attempted to anilhitate their books (the other gospels).
--
Later,
Darrell Stec
Webpage Sorcery
http://webpagesorcery.com
We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus Found? |
27 Feb 2007 02:35:22 PM |
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On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:45:54 +0100, "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"
<MAILTOsecretary@carcosa.de> wrote:
Uncle Vic:
If they *can* prove this is the body of Jesus, doesn't that prove their
religion to be a crock of *****? No resurrection, no christianity, right?
I wouldn't be too surprised to (in that case) hear from them that suddenly,
surprisingly, "da wholly babble was speaking about spiritiual resurrection
all along!!!11!!!!". I mean, them morontheists are so totally full of it,
Why not? That's exactly what they say about Adam and Eve, when it's
pointed out that Adam lived for hundreds of years after he ate of the
fruit, etc. They started dying spiritually on that day. Jebus was
resurrected spiritually.
Never mind that they claim ALL Christians are "resurrected
spiritually" (even atheists are, we just take the other elevator) -
Jebus was "speshul".
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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27 Feb 2007 08:51:54 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> bloodied us up
with this:
Why not? That's exactly what they say about Adam and Eve, when it's
pointed out that Adam lived for hundreds of years after he ate of the
fruit, etc. They started dying spiritually on that day. Jebus was
resurrected spiritually.
The earliest Christians, before the unification, believed Jesus was a
spiritual god. The idea of "godman" didn't evolve for a few centuries.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack. Plonked by Fester.
Member Duke Spanking Club.
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