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Jesus, The Essenes and the Dead Sea Scrolls |
Jesus, The Essenes And The Dead Sea Scrolls
There are number of Cayce readings on file in which an individual was said to
have been connected, in a former incarnation, with an Essene community.
These readings gave much information concerning such communities, which at that
time could not be confirmed.
This was because, at the time of the readings, hardly anything was known of the
Essenes. What little was known came principally from the writings of three men,
all of whom lived during the first century after the birth of Christ: the
Jewish historian, Josephus; the philosopher, Philo; and the Roman historian,
Pliny the Elder.
What made things even more confusing was that often what Cayce said about the
entity's experience during that time did not match up completely with what was
know about the Essenes, or, for that matter, what we know about them today.
Present knowledge, admittedly still scanty, has it that the Essenes were a
Jewish religious group, which flourished in the two centuries before and after
the period of Christ's appearance on the earth. They were a communal society,
extremely pious, who emphasized the virtue of physical and spiritual purity.
They refused to take oaths or engage in animal sacrifices as did the Sadducees
and the Pharisees. Their major endeavors centered around agriculture and
handicrafts, for they felt these two occupations were the least sinful. They
abhorred commerce, believing that it led to the covetousness and to the making
of the weapons of war. Until recent years, when skeletons of women were found
in the graveyards of some Essene communities, it was believed that they were
inhabited only by men. (This, incidentally, confirmed statements made years
earlier by Cayce.)
The Essenes were thought by some to be celibate, but their numbers did not die
out because of the practice of taking in young boys and bringing them up as
novices, as well as accepting adult makes who rejected life outside the
communities. Enrichment of the soul was the main emphasis of their religion. It
has been widely speculated, although not yet proved, that John the Baptist was
an Essene.
The Essenes were highly respected, and became famous for their mysticism and
esoteric knowledge, the nature of which is little known, since the Essene
communities were essentially secret societies.
There has been much controversy, through the years, concerning whether or not
Jesus Christ was associated with the Essenes. Although there is no
consequential evidence to support either side of the debate, the consensus
seems to be that Jesus was not connected with them, but that some of his
disciples may have come out of such communities, particularly those who were
formerly disciples of John the Baptist.
The Cayce readings, however, indicate otherwise. Bearing in mind that there can
be no proof, as yet, of the accuracy of what he had to say on the subject, here
is a brief rundown of the life of Jesus at it is shown in the Cayce files.
First we should mention that Cayce, in his many discussions of the Essenes
through the readings, said that in Palestine their principal center was at
Mount Carmel, near the shores of the Mediterranean Sea. (Practically no
archaeological surveys have been done in this area, as yet; it is interesting
to speculate on what might be uncovered in future years.)
Here is what Cayce had to say in one reading. "In the days when more and more
leaders of the people had been trained in the temple at Mount Carmel, the
original place where the school of the prophets was established during Elijah's
time, there were those leaders called Essenes, students of what ye would call
astronomy, astrology, phrenology, numbers and numerology, and that study of the
return of individuals, or reincarnation.
"There were reasons why these proclaimed that certain periods formed a cycle,
reasons which grew out of the studies of Aristotle, Enos, Mathias, Judy and
others who supervised the school, as ye would term it in the present.
"These individuals had been persecuted by leaders of the people, and this
caused the saying of which ye have an interpretation, as given by the
Sadducees. 'There is no resurrection' or 'There is no reincarnation,' which is
what the word meant in those days…"
"Hence there was continued preparation and dedication of those who might be
channels through whom the chosen vessel could enter, through choice, into
materiality. Those in charge at that time were Mathias, Enos and Judy. Thus in
Carmel where there were the priests, of this faith…twelve maidens were chosen
who were dedicated to this purpose, this office, this service. Among them was
Mary, the beloved, the chosen one; and she, as had been foretold, was chosen as
the channel. Thus she was separated and kept in closer association with and in
the care of this office.
"That was the beginning, that was the foundation of what ye term the Church."
According to the readings, then, it was the Essenes who chose Mary to be the
Virgin Mother. She had been chosen at the age of four, and had been placed in
the custody of the temple priest at Carmel. There she had begun a long and
arduous training period, which included mental and physical exercise, special
foods and diet, learning the wisdom and necessity of chastity, purity, love,
patience and endurance. She was twelve before she was told the purpose of her
training.
The readings indicate that Joseph, also selected by the Essenes, objected at
first to union with Mary. He was, after all, thirty-six years old, whereas Mary
was only sixteen. He was concerned about what people would say, not only
because of the difference in their ages, but because of the very nature of a
virgin birth. However, through a dream and a vision he became convinced that it
was Divine Will, and he consented.
The marriage ceremony, said Cayce, was performed at Carmel in the temple of the
Essenes, after which Joseph returned to his home in Nazareth and Mary retired
to the hill country of Judea to wait the birth of Jesus.
Near the end of her pregnancy, Mary joined Joseph at Nazareth and they began
the journey to Bethany, some seventy miles away, to register for taxation as
required by law.
It was about this time that the wise men, who were initiates in the Mysteries,
perceived the signs of the coming of Jesus, and came from Egypt, India and the
Gobi, to serve as emissaries of the religious leaders in those countries. They
bore their gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh, representing, according to
Cayce, the healing force, or body, mind and soul.
Then, at midnight on January 6 of the present Gregorian calendar, Jesus was
born in the stable of a hillside inn in Bethlehem. The innkeeper's daughter
acted as midwife.
One reading elaborated on this journey to Bethany. "Each individual was
required by Roman law to be present in the city of his birth for this polling.
Both Joseph and Mary were members of the sect called Essenes; and thus they
were to be polled and questioned not only by those in political, but also in
religious authority in the City…
"For remember, many of those present [at the inn] were also of that questioned
group, the Essenes. They had heard of the girl, that lovely wife of Joseph, who
had been chosen by the angel of the stair; they had heard of what had taken
place in the hills where Elizabeth had gone, when she [Elizabeth] had been
visited by this girl, her cousin…"
According to the readings, Mary had spent the required period of purification
following the birth of Jesus. Then the Infant had been taken to the temple to
be blessed by Anna, Mary's mother, and by the high priest. The family then
returned to Nazareth. Herod's edict, ordering the death of the Jews, had forced
them to flee to Egypt; they remained there for five years. A handmaid called
Josie, and at other times called Sophie, stayed with Mary for many years,
helping with the care of the young Jesus, as well as with the other children
who came later. She also cared for Joseph in his last days. Josie was an
Essene; thus the readings indicate a continuing influence of the Essenes upon
the life of Jesus.
After the five-year stay in Egypt, the family went to Judea, then to Capernaum,
and then settled one again in Nazareth. At the age of ten, Jesus was presented
in the temple. There was much counseling and discussion among the rabbis,
leading to Jesus' going to Egypt to begin His schooling in the secret doctrines
of the law. The readings do not specify whether or not these rabbis were
Essenes; however, they do indicate that Jesus had some teaching by the Essenes.
"The return was made to Capernaum, not Nazareth, and not just because of
political reasons following the death of Herod. But a division of the kingdom
had been made after the death of Herod. And the return [to Capernaum] was so
that there might be the ministry or teaching that was to be a part of the
Brotherhood, supervised in that period by Judy, as one of the leaders of the
Essenes in that particular period."
According to the readings, Jesus spent only a short time in Egypt in connection
with His training. He was then sent to India, and then "into what is now
Persia."
Jesus spent one year in Egypt, India and Persia. He was called home upon the
death of Joseph, and then returned to Egypt for more schooling. The readings
indicate that during part of this time He was with John the Messenger. Between
the ages of thirteen and sixteen. He was in India and studied under Kshijiar.
In Persia He studied under Junner; in Egypt, under Zar.
Then, "after the return to Jerusalem there were the periods of education in
Syria, India and the completion of the studies in Egypt; and the passing of the
tests there by those who were of the Essene group, as they entered into the
service; as did the Master, and John before him."
Once His schooling was completed, Jesus went to Capernaum, Cana and the land of
Judea. Here the readings coincide with what has been written in the Gospels
concerning Jesus' ministry. He taught the lessons of Isaiah, Jeremiah and the
lesser prophets, in the synagogues.
Jesus, as portrayed in the readings, was not of the sad countenance and frail
body generally depicted by others. Indeed, said Cayce, He smiled often, and
sometimes spoke lightly. He excelled in playing the harp.
He attended the wedding of His sister Ruth, who married a Roman tax supervisor.
There are a great many readings given for individuals which support the story
of Jesus and fill in many gaps in present knowledge of the Essenes.
A summary of this information might contain the following: there were many
Essene communities, widely scattered throughout the Middle East area, from
Egypt to India. In Palestine, their center was not on the Dead Sea, but at
Mount Carmel, some seventy mones to the north.
Although Jesus, according to the readings, was raised and educated by Essenes,
He seemed to have differed with them in some aspects of their belief. Indeed,
some of His admonishments seem to have been directed toward them.
The readings indicate that the Essene community on the Dead Sea was evidently
dispersed around 70 A.D., when large numbers of Roman soldiers drove them from
their site.
With the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls of Khirbet Qumran in 1947, and the
extensive excavations of the various caves in the area since that time, we now
seem to be on the way to finding out whether Cayce's readings were completely
accurate, partly accurate, or absolutely wrong. So far, there seems to have
been no discovery that disproves what he had to say. Some discoveries have
confirmed material given in the readings.
Restoring the Scrolls, tens of thousands of bits of papyrus, copper and
leather, in a dreadful state of decay, is a monumental task, and it has been
estimated that it may take at least fifty years to decipher and translate those
already recovered.
Even as this is accomplished, there will surely be growing debates concerning
their content and their meaning to Christianity.
One piece of Essene literature recently deciphered indicates that the communion
meal of that day, almost identical to that used today, was a liturgical
anticipation of the Messianic banquet. It details the offering of the bread,
and then the wine, to the congregation of the community. It ends with the
statement, "And they shall follow this prescription whenever [the meal is
ar]ranged, when as many as ten meet together."
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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07 Aug 2004 10:42:27 PM |
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On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 03:30:07 +0000 in episode
<20040807233007.20060.00000749@mb-m25.wmconnect.com> we saw our hero
echo2drs@wmconnect.com (Echo2Drs):
Jesus
Who cares?
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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| User: "Echo2Drs" |
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07 Aug 2004 11:23:42 PM |
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Jesus
Who cares?
Well it's obvious dear you don't. But then live and let live is my philosophy!
That's your thingy!
This is my thingy! ;-)
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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08 Aug 2004 05:45:24 PM |
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"Echo2Drs" <echo2drs@wmconnect.com> wrote in message
news:20040808002342.04194.00002665@mb-m15.wmconnect.com...
Jesus
Who cares?
Well it's obvious dear you don't. But then live and let live is my
philosophy!
That's your thingy!
This is my thingy! ;-)
I'll thank you to keep your thingy to yourself, you perv ;p
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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08 Aug 2004 12:15:00 AM |
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"Echo2Drs" <echo2drs@wmconnect.com> wrote in message
news:20040808002342.04194.00002665@mb-m15.wmconnect.com...
Jesus
Who cares?
Well it's obvious dear you don't. But then live and let live is my
philosophy!
No, if that was your philosophy, you wouldn't be posting this crap on alt
atheism.
That's your thingy!
This is my thingy! ;-)
What, not letting us live without you spamming our newsgroup?
***** you, you lying twat.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Kermit" |
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08 Aug 2004 04:03:06 PM |
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(Echo2Drs) wrote in message news:<20040808002342.04194.00002665@mb-m15.wmconnect.com>...
Jesus
Who cares?
Well it's obvious dear you don't. But then live and let live is my philosophy!
That's your thingy!
This is my thingy! ;-)
Bizarre fantasies are your thingy?
Why not just read comic books? They're more entertaining, you can go
to conventions and see real live people at least once a year, and
sometimes you can even look at good art.
Kermit
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| User: "johac" |
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09 Aug 2004 01:37:43 AM |
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In article <20040808002342.04194.00002665@mb-m15.wmconnect.com>,
(Echo2Drs) wrote:
Jesus
Who cares?
Well it's obvious dear you don't. But then live and let live is my philosophy!
That's your thingy!
This is my thingy! ;-)
Fine! Just take it somewhere else.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
-The ability to change one's mind, ideas, and opinions when confronted with
new facts is the sign of the rational and intelligent. The inability to do
so is the hallmark of the dimwitted and the fanatic. This applies not only
to science and philosophy, but also to politics.-
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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09 Aug 2004 06:00:46 AM |
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On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 23:37:43 -0700 in episode
<jhachm-6ADF62.23374308082004@news.giganews.com> we saw our hero johac
<jhachm@ixpresremove.com>:
In article <20040808002342.04194.00002665@mb-m15.wmconnect.com>,
echo2drs@wmconnect.com (Echo2Drs) wrote:
Jesus
Who cares?
Well it's obvious dear you don't. But then live and let live is my
philosophy! That's your thingy!
This is my thingy! ;-)
Fine! Just take it somewhere else.
Didn't his mother teach him not to play with his thingy in public?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "johac" |
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10 Aug 2004 12:17:15 AM |
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In article <pan.2004.08.09.11.00.46.310246@org.webmaster>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 23:37:43 -0700 in episode
<jhachm-6ADF62.23374308082004@news.giganews.com> we saw our hero johac
<jhachm@ixpresremove.com>:
In article <20040808002342.04194.00002665@mb-m15.wmconnect.com>,
echo2drs@wmconnect.com (Echo2Drs) wrote:
Jesus
Who cares?
Well it's obvious dear you don't. But then live and let live is my
philosophy! That's your thingy!
This is my thingy! ;-)
Fine! Just take it somewhere else.
Didn't his mother teach him not to play with his thingy in public?
His mother probably told him to go play on a crowded street.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
-The ability to change one's mind, ideas, and opinions when confronted with
new facts is the sign of the rational and intelligent. The inability to do
so is the hallmark of the dimwitted and the fanatic. This applies not only
to science and philosophy, but also to politics.-
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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08 Aug 2004 08:02:43 PM |
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On 08 Aug 2004 04:23:42 GMT, (Echo2Drs) wrote:
Jesus
Who cares?
Well it's obvious dear you don't. But then live and let live is my philosophy!
That's your thingy!
This is my thingy! ;-)
That's nice.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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08 Aug 2004 08:47:44 AM |
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On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 04:23:42 +0000 in episode
<20040808002342.04194.00002665@mb-m15.wmconnect.com> we saw our hero
echo2drs@wmconnect.com (Echo2Drs):
Jesus
Who cares?
Well it's obvious dear you don't. But then live and let live is my
philosophy! That's your thingy!
This is my thingy! ;-)
If you believed in "live and let live," what's all this "Jesus" and Cayce
crap doing in an atheist ng?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "Echo2Drs" |
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08 Aug 2004 09:59:56 AM |
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If you believed in "live and let live," what's all this "Jesus" and Cayce
crap doing in an atheist ng?
I saw quite a few atheiest in Bible ngs!
I read both sides of the story (religionist and atheist).
I am not a religious person myself; and my purpose is to learn from others on
all sides, and every religion.
Judging from what I've heard from the atheist point of view, I have discovered
they are right to an extent also.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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08 Aug 2004 10:47:01 AM |
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On 08 Aug 2004 14:59:56 GMT, (Echo2Drs) wrote:
If you believed in "live and let live," what's all this "Jesus" and Cayce
crap doing in an atheist ng?
I saw quite a few atheiest in Bible ngs!
So why don't you turn the other cheek, hypocrite, instead of
alienating a whole slew more who never did you any harm?
I read both sides of the story (religionist and atheist).
No you don't, because it's not "both sides" of anything.
I am not a religious person myself; and my purpose is to learn from others on
all sides, and every religion.
Then do some learning instead of rubbing your stupidity in our faces.
Judging from what I've heard from the atheist point of view, I have discovered
they are right to an extent also.
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| User: "Echo2Drs" |
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08 Aug 2004 12:57:04 PM |
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Then do some learning instead of rubbing your stupidity in our faces.
Now how can I learn anything with that attitude?
No you don't, because it's not "both sides" of anything.
Everything has a basis somewhere! Even Wicca is based on something.
Religion "branched out" in many different ways and each adopted their own
belief system within each religion.
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| User: "AnotherObserver®" |
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08 Aug 2004 01:59:01 PM |
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(Echo2Drs) wrote:
Then do some learning instead of rubbing your stupidity in our faces.
Now how can I learn anything with that attitude?
No you don't, because it's not "both sides" of anything.
Everything has a basis somewhere! Even Wicca is based on something.
Religion "branched out" in many different ways and each adopted their own
belief system within each religion.
What is it that yer attempting to learn? Seems like you've all the
answers already.
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Davidwd
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alt.atheism
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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08 Aug 2004 01:22:23 PM |
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On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 17:57:04 +0000 in episode
<20040808135704.04802.00001085@mb-m12.wmconnect.com> we saw our hero
echo2drs@wmconnect.com (Echo2Drs):
Then do some learning instead of rubbing your stupidity in our faces.
Now how can I learn anything with that attitude?
That's our problem how exactly?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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08 Aug 2004 10:09:45 AM |
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On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 14:59:56 +0000 in episode
<20040808105956.11415.00002056@mb-m23.wmconnect.com> we saw our hero
echo2drs@wmconnect.com (Echo2Drs):
If you believed in "live and let live," what's all this "Jesus" and Cayce
crap doing in an atheist ng?
I saw quite a few atheiest in Bible ngs!
And this justifies what actions on your part?
I read both sides of the story
(religionist and atheist). I am not a religious person myself; and my
purpose is to learn from others on all sides, and every religion.
Judging from what I've heard from the atheist point of view, I have
discovered they are right to an extent also.
You didn't come here to learn, you came here to troll.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "Echo2Drs" |
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08 Aug 2004 12:47:33 PM |
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You didn't come here to learn, you came here to troll.
No I didn't come here to troll. I came here to let the atheist know that what
he says is partially true! The athiest view of evolution is absolutely
correct! Our earthly bodies DID evolve from the apes...Cayce plainly pointed
that out!
Look at the archeological bones of neanderthal man. He walked like and looked
like apes! Eventually neanderthal evolved into what we look like today! So
see, I totally agree with the theory of evolution.
1. An animal body has five senses, so does our animal body
2. When an animal itches it scratches, so does our animal body
3. An animal body expels waste, so does our animal body
4. An animal body has hair to protect it, so does our animal body
5. When an animal is hungry it eats, so does our animal body
6. When an animal body gets tired it rests, so does our animal body
7. When an animal wants to have baby animals, it mates, so does our animal body
8. When an animal is threatened it fights, so does our animal body
9. An animal body is susceptible to the weather, so is our animal body
10. An animal body is susceptible to parasites, fleas, ticks, lice, mosquitoes
and flies, so is our animal body
11. An animal body will grow old, so will our animal body
12. An animal body can get sick, so does our animal body
13. An animal will eventually die, so will our animal body
14. An animal body will decay, so will our animal body, and so on.
There is another kind of body besides the ape.
This is what the religionist are talking about. Although the religionist are
getting confused about which is which; and, yes the atheist is confused about
it too.
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| User: "Brenda Nelson" |
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09 Aug 2004 11:57:33 AM |
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(Echo2Drs) wrote in message news:<20040808134733.04802.00001084@mb-m12.wmconnect.com>...
You didn't come here to learn, you came here to troll.
No I didn't come here to troll. I came here to let the atheist know that what
he says is partially true! The athiest view of evolution is absolutely
correct! Our earthly bodies DID evolve from the apes...Cayce plainly pointed
that out!
Look at the archeological bones of neanderthal man. He walked like and looked
like apes! Eventually neanderthal evolved into what we look like today!
Bzzzzzzt! Wrong-o. Neanderthal man is not in Homo sapien's line of
descent. They were a separate branch of genus Homo.
Take a physical anthropology course, why don'tcha. Sheesh.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
Chief Wrangler and Ramrod Emeritus
(and Professor of Feline Thermometrics)
EAC Equine Transportation Command/Carne Seca Division
in the Prefectuer of Baja, Arizona
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus, The Essenes and the Dead Sea Scrolls |
08 Aug 2004 09:30:10 PM |
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On 08 Aug 2004 17:47:33 GMT, (Echo2Drs) wrote:
You didn't come here to learn, you came here to troll.
No I didn't come here to troll. I came here to let the atheist know that what
he says is partially true! The athiest view of evolution is absolutely
correct! Our earthly bodies DID evolve from the apes...Cayce plainly pointed
that out!
Oh. Not Nostradamus?
Look at the archeological bones of neanderthal man. He walked like and looked
like apes! Eventually neanderthal evolved into what we look like today! So
see, I totally agree with the theory of evolution.
1. An animal body has five senses, so does our animal body
2. When an animal itches it scratches, so does our animal body
3. An animal body expels waste, so does our animal body
4. An animal body has hair to protect it, so does our animal body
5. When an animal is hungry it eats, so does our animal body
6. When an animal body gets tired it rests, so does our animal body
7. When an animal wants to have baby animals, it mates, so does our animal body
8. When an animal is threatened it fights, so does our animal body
9. An animal body is susceptible to the weather, so is our animal body
10. An animal body is susceptible to parasites, fleas, ticks, lice, mosquitoes
and flies, so is our animal body
11. An animal body will grow old, so will our animal body
12. An animal body can get sick, so does our animal body
13. An animal will eventually die, so will our animal body
14. An animal body will decay, so will our animal body, and so on.
There is another kind of body besides the ape.
This is what the religionist are talking about. Although the religionist are
getting confused about which is which; and, yes the atheist is confused about
it too.
That's nice.
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| Title: Re: Jesus, The Essenes and the Dead Sea Scrolls |
09 Aug 2004 06:01:28 AM |
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On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 09:30:10 +0700 in episode
<cfjdh09iauhs7qp4ggo2ln3b22hb6uvo8g@4ax.com> we saw our hero Jos Flachs
<|wcruise|@ksc15.th.com>:
On 08 Aug 2004 17:47:33 GMT, (Echo2Drs) wrote:
You didn't come here to learn, you came here to troll.
No I didn't come here to troll. I came here to let the atheist know that
what he says is partially true! The athiest view of evolution is
absolutely correct! Our earthly bodies DID evolve from the apes...Cayce
plainly pointed that out!
Oh. Not Nostradamus?
And ain't it nice to be told we're "partially true?"
All these years, I've just been holding my breath hoping somebody would...
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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08 Aug 2004 01:22:39 PM |
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On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 17:47:33 +0000 in episode
<20040808134733.04802.00001084@mb-m12.wmconnect.com> we saw our hero
echo2drs@wmconnect.com (Echo2Drs):
I came here to let the atheist know that
what he says is partially true!
You just proved my point.
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "Echo2Drs" |
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08 Aug 2004 02:40:25 PM |
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You just proved my point.
And what point would that be? That I'm here to preach??? I don't think so!!!!
I don't preach, and I don't like somebody preachin to me!
I look at all sides of the equation, I see truth in all not just in a few!
I have seen less slandering in the atheist ng then I saw in the Bible ng.
The Bible ng posters would "fuss" over a simple passage that both parties
interpreted differently!
This taught me "religion" can be a worthwhile experience but in the wrong hands
it can be weapons of devils!...don't you agree?
Although, unlike you, yes I believe God exist and God created all things
including me and you (like it or not), God belongs to NO religion and neither
do I!
I don't think God would approve the slander of another soul no matter what
their beliefs are do you? We all sail our own ships or if you prefer float our
own boat!
And, we either sail them...or sink them??? Do you agree with this also?
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| User: "AnotherObserver®" |
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08 Aug 2004 06:23:50 PM |
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(Echo2Drs) wrote:
You just proved my point.
And what point would that be? That I'm here to preach??? I don't think so!!!!
I don't preach, and I don't like somebody preachin to me!
I look at all sides of the equation, I see truth in all not just in a few!
I have seen less slandering in the atheist ng then I saw in the Bible ng.
The Bible ng posters would "fuss" over a simple passage that both parties
interpreted differently!
This taught me "religion" can be a worthwhile experience but in the wrong hands
it can be weapons of devils!...don't you agree?
Although, unlike you, yes I believe God exist and God created all things
including me and you (like it or not), God belongs to NO religion and neither
do I!
I don't think God would approve the slander of another soul no matter what
their beliefs are do you? We all sail our own ships or if you prefer float our
own boat!
And, we either sail them...or sink them??? Do you agree with this also?
http://www.jcf.org/
http://www.superwisdom.com/
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Davidwd
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alt.atheism
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08 Aug 2004 05:24:56 PM |
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On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 19:40:25 +0000 in episode
<20040808154025.22465.00001122@mb-m11.wmconnect.com> we saw our hero
echo2drs@wmconnect.com (Echo2Drs):
You just proved my point.
And what point would that be?
That you're trolling.
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
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07 Aug 2004 11:55:32 PM |
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On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 22:42:27 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
alt.atheism:
On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 03:30:07 +0000 in episode
<20040807233007.20060.00000749@mb-m25.wmconnect.com> we saw our hero
echo2drs@wmconnect.com (Echo2Drs):
Jesus
Who cares?
You have more patience than I do.
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/Apostate
atheist #(e^7.5657933) I've found it!
BAAWA Knife AND SMASHer
EAC Supernumerary Deputy Director, Department of Redundancy Department
plonked by Lani_girl, first post; billions served!
I doubt, therefore I might be.
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