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20 May 2006 06:26:24 AM |
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Jewish groups make voices heard |
Jewish groups make voices heard
http://www.stljewishlight.com/news/286519798397558.php
St.Louis Jewishlight.com - St. Louis,MO,USA
.... Farilyn Hale, who had already been to Jefferson City on similar trips,
said the issue that concerned her the most was separation of church and
state as well. ...
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You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the US and a couple from overseas as well]
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.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
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20 May 2006 06:06:24 PM |
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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=717574&contrassID=2
They're out to harvest Jewish
souls in the name of Christ.
And they're out to do it right here.
Make no mistake,
I believe that these Christians
must have every freedom to worship
Jesus as their lord and messiah,
perform every ritual,
celebrate every holiday that they see fit.
If they want to do Born-again Kiddush
and Last Supper Kneidelach and Savior
Shalosh S'eudes - gezunterheit.
And if missionary activity is
a commandment in their view,
I wish them every success -
just one thing:
Leave the Jews alone.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=717574&contrassID=2
Why 'Jews for Jesus' is evil
By Bradley Burston
We were driving in the Galilee,
waiting for a red light to change,
when they came up to the car.
Their smiles were engagingly
open as they wished us a fine
trip.
Then they offered us the flyer.
Jews for Jesus.
Who says that evil can't be imported,
and delivered, free of charge,
direct to your car door?
Don't get me wrong.
The members of Jews
for Jesus are pure souls.
They are among the most wholesome,
guileless, truly well-meaning,
fundamentally lovely people you
will ever meet.
More's the pity, therefore,
that there's a special place
in hell just for them.
I would like to begin by saying
that I have nothing personal
against these people.
But that would be a lie.
The reason is that, grinning all the way,
they want to take something personal from me.
My history, my belief system, my ancestry.
The flyers say they are concerned for my soul,
and I believe them with all my heart.
It's precisely my soul they're after,
all right, mine and as many others
as possible.
They're out to harvest Jewish
souls in the name of Christ.
And they're out to do it right here.
Make no mistake,
I believe that these Christians
must have every freedom to worship
Jesus as their lord and messiah,
perform every ritual,
celebrate every holiday that they see fit.
If they want to do Born-again Kiddush
and Last Supper Kneidelach and Savior
Shalosh S'eudes - gezunterheit.
And if missionary activity is
a commandment in their view,
I wish them every success -
just one thing:
Leave the Jews alone.
The world is a target-rich
environment for the missionary,
the Protestant Christian world
in particular.
There's no end of lapsed Methodists,
Episcopalians, Lutherans,
Presbyterians, Baptists,
Anabaptists,
whom you're free to try to cajole into Christ.
You don't need us.
Jesus doesn't need us.
Leave us alone.
It's a safe bet that the Jews for
Jesus who may be reading this are
rolling their eyes by now,
classifying me as Unbeliever
Type G-639-L and writing me off.
But bear with me for one brief moment,
if only to read the next sentence,
which has specifically to do with you,
as well as with your Jewish prey,
thousands of years of Jewish history,
and evil:
Proselytizing is persecution.
Granted,
it's not the same as burning
us at the stake for Christ's sake,
firebombing our homes for Christ's sake,
staging apres-church pogroms for Christ's sake,
ostracizing and terrorizing and beating
our children for having killed Christ,
lynching Jewish adults for
church-distributed blood libels,
torturing Jews to force them to convert,
converting entire Jewish communities on
point of death,
deporting entire Jewish communities
on point of death for having resisted
conversion, or,
after eliminating the conversion option,
annihilating entire Jewish communities
with the complicitous blind eye of the
Holy See.
But there's more than one way to
wipe out a people, and poison,
like gas, comes in many forms.
Sometimes it looks like a leaflet.
Sometimes it looks like the Internet.
Sometimes it looks like a smile.
It should have occurred to you by
now that Jews in the post-Holocaust
era have a mission, no less than you.
We have some saving to do of our own.
In ways which are as individual
as each Jew in the world, it has
been left to us to save Jewry itself -
its faith, its culture, its values,
its memory, its history -
from extinction.
Look around.
There aren't that many of us left.
There are 2 billion Christians in the world,
and nearly a billion and a quarter Muslims.
There are barely 14 million
Jews left alive on this planet.
In 1933, that number
was 15.3 million.
Leave us alone.
The true evil of Jews for Jesus,
is the movement's readiness to
take advantages of the weaknesses
of Judaism in our day,
in order to further weaken it.
Judaism's agonizing inability
to reach its estranged youth is
the stuff of Jew for Jesus dreams,
the fantasy that, in the end,
they will succeed in converting us.
Sorry, I'm not supposed to use that word.
Under the Jews for Jesus creed -
which appears aimed at confusing
its own adherents at least as much
as it seeks to "turn" us non-believers -
Jews for Jesus members do not convert you,
they just get you to believe that Jesus
Christ is the lord,
and that only through Jesus can one be saved.
The faithful may well be much too busy
with salvation to concern yourselves
with extinction.
There's clearly plenty for them to do,
judging by some of their Websites,
where I happened upon this useful
piece of instruction from the founder
of Jews for Jesus, Martin (Moishe) Rosen:
"Hey,
if you don't know any Jewish people,
you can look in the phone book for
surnames that are always Jewish:
Cohen, Katz, Levy, Rosen
(and anything that begins with Rosen,
like Rosenberg, Rosenbloom or Rosenfeld)."
And now, here in Israel,
in a venture as predictable
as it is indecent,
they've set themselves a new target,
Russian Jewish immigrants,
descendants of the Jews Hitler
didn't get the chance to kill.
May they fail.
There are those who will say,
and I applaud them, that we
should engage and embrace
members of Jews for Jesus,
showing openness to them
rather than the cold shoulder
that drives them further away.
I applaud those who say
this and act accordingly,
but I don't have it in me.
It really comes down to this:
It's hard enough to be Jewish as it is.
It's tough to be Jewish if you're secular,
and it's no less difficult if you're religious.
It's tough to be Jewish in the
Diaspora if you live among non-Jews.
It's tough to live there if
you live among lots of Jews.
And it's tough as nails to
be Jewish in Israel, atheist,
knitted kippa, Haredi,
or fusion JUBU.
If you're a Jew for Jesus and
you're still reading this,
you may well be thinking:
This guy sounds riled.
He needs a friend in Jesus.
You're thinking wrong.
This guy needs you to
keep your salvation to yourself.
Believe whatever you want.
Practice whatever you preach.
Just stay the hell away from us.
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20 May 2006 07:18:29 PM |
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Not all Jewish groups are bad, I mean, take Esther and Abi Ofarim for
instance. They were a right laugh, weren't they? And then of course
who could forget Demis Roussos (yes I KNOW he wasn't actually a GROUP
but nevertheless could resemble one in a bad light.
And my personal favorite Jewish Act, the fabulous Topol who soared to
the dizzy heights I often dream about with his rendition of "If I was a
***** man" whilst fidding with himself, on the roof.
Wonderful days, I can assure you, some of which I remember as if they
almost happened only yesterday, and - in some strange sort of way - I
suppose they did.
By the way, sorry about the ever-growing nicknames I'm using these
days, it's just so that you'll recognise my GENUINE posts instead of
thinking it's the other idiot. Of course, if it gets too long I'll
simply shorten it to a symbol and you'll then be able to refer to me as
"The Poster Formerly Known as 'That Twat Again'"
Anyhow - must make bunnyhops!
Doctor Greas
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| User: "rightwinghank" |
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20 May 2006 07:33:32 PM |
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14 million Jews too many if you ask me......jews have caused nothing
but trouble...
example...who invented the atom bomb? Jews.
For this alone....the world would be better off without them.
They call us animals..goyum......we non jews....they think themselves
superior.......someday....
someday....this will catch up to them....history repeats itself.......
the Jews have not learned from their prior actions in the world and
will
suffer persecution again.
God give me the years to see it myself.
love
hank
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| User: "*G* *O* *D* *S* *C* *R* *E* *A* *T* *O* *R*" |
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20 May 2006 09:01:45 PM |
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Yes, but you have to admit that their 1976 Eurovision song contest
entry "Love You Without a Foreskin" was one of the best love songs ever
written by an Israeli, and surely that in some way makes up for the
devastation nuclear weapons have caused over the years? And what about
the way Uri Geller would bend a spoon? That in itself justifies any
shortlived occupations?
Yep, Israel knows show business, my friend, and it will be quite some
time before we see the likes of Al Jolson again.
Doctor Greas
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| User: "*G* *O* *D* *S* *C* *R* *E* *A* *T* *O* *R*" |
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20 May 2006 06:17:13 PM |
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torresD wrote:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=717574&contrassID=2
They're out to harvest Jewish
souls in the name of Christ.
And they're out to do it right here.
Make no mistake,
I believe that these Christians
must have every freedom to worship
Jesus as their lord and messiah,
perform every ritual,
[...........]
Just stay the hell away from us.
*Thus spake God's Creator*
There are many other people who believe _ALL_ Christians must be crucified...
Please... support their holy rituals also. :-D
Go to heaven!!
~~ God's Creator! ~~
That was my only sin... :-(
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