Religions > Atheism > Jews remember Holocaust as Christians remember Jesus coming back from the dead
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05 Apr 2007 12:53:53 PM |
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Jews remember Holocaust as Christians remember Jesus coming back from the dead |
Understanding Jesus' Jewishness
As a Jew, I am proud that the most loving man in history was also a
Jew.
With Good Friday and the Holocaust Day of Remem-brance approaching on
April 6 and April 15, respectively, it is a good time to remember that
Judaism, the religion that Jesus piously practiced for himself, and
Christianity, the religion about Jesus, are unified in their devotion
to God, goodness and love.
Maybe it is also a good time to bring our attention to the irony that
on one hand Jesus devoted his lifetime to teach us love, and on the
other, some people use Jesus' sacrifice on the cross to teach hatred
toward the Jews.
Jesus belonged to the most persecuted minority in history. He was a
Jew, like those in the Nazi concentration camps. His family, apostles
and followers were also Jews. These people loved Jesus and mourned his
death. The fostering of hatred toward the Jews, or toward anyone, only
reverses the message of the most loving man in history. Jesus was love
and only what is for love is for Jesus.
Jews and Christians have differences in spiritual beliefs, but a
society that respects individual diversity is fertile ground for love
to flourish, and a place with love is a place with God.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Jews remember Holocaust as Christians remember Jesus coming back from the dead |
05 Apr 2007 04:18:07 PM |
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In article <1175795633.335964.321390@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
"chuckie" <nighthawk6677@googlemail.com> wrote:
Understanding Jesus' Jewishness
As a Jew, I am proud that the most loving man in history was also a
Jew.
Father Paul Shanley?
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050208/news_1n8shanley.html
With Good Friday and the Holocaust Day of Remem-brance approaching on
April 6 and April 15, respectively, it is a good time to remember that
Judaism, the religion that Jesus piously practiced for himself, and
Christianity, the religion about Jesus, are unified in their devotion
to God, goodness and love.
The holocaust actually happened. Nobody has ever risen from the dead.
If you can prove it, faith would not be necessary.
Maybe it is also a good time to bring our attention to the irony that
on one hand Jesus devoted his lifetime to teach us love, and on the
other, some people use Jesus' sacrifice on the cross to teach hatred
toward the Jews.
Jesus belonged to the most persecuted minority in history. He was a
Jew, like those in the Nazi concentration camps. His family, apostles
and followers were also Jews. These people loved Jesus and mourned his
death. The fostering of hatred toward the Jews, or toward anyone, only
reverses the message of the most loving man in history. Jesus was love
and only what is for love is for Jesus.
Jews and Christians have differences in spiritual beliefs, but a
society that respects individual diversity is fertile ground for love
to flourish, and a place with love is a place with God.
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
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Uncle Vic aa Atheist #2011
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: Jews remember Holocaust as Christians remember Jesus coming back from the dead |
05 Apr 2007 09:22:39 PM |
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On 5 Apr 2007 10:53:53 -0700, "chuckie" <nighthawk6677@googlemail.com> wrote:
Understanding Jesus' Jewishness
As a Jew, I am proud that the most loving man in history was also a
Jew.
With Good Friday and the Holocaust Day of Remem-brance approaching on
April 6 and April 15, respectively, it is a good time to remember that
Judaism, the religion that Jesus piously practiced for himself, and
Christianity, the religion about Jesus, are unified in their devotion
to God, goodness and love.
Maybe it is also a good time to bring our attention to the irony that
on one hand Jesus devoted his lifetime to teach us love, and on the
other, some people use Jesus' sacrifice on the cross to teach hatred
toward the Jews.
Jesus belonged to the most persecuted minority in history. He was a
Jew, like those in the Nazi concentration camps. His family, apostles
and followers were also Jews. These people loved Jesus and mourned his
death. The fostering of hatred toward the Jews, or toward anyone, only
reverses the message of the most loving man in history. Jesus was love
and only what is for love is for Jesus.
Jews and Christians have differences in spiritual beliefs, but a
society that respects individual diversity is fertile ground for love
to flourish, and a place with love is a place with God.
And the reason why you thought this little soap box was best suited for
alt.atheism is......?
Ben
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Jews remember Holocaust as Christians remember Jesus coming back from the dead |
05 Apr 2007 02:02:50 PM |
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On 5 apr, 19:53, "chuckie" <nighthawk6...@googlemail.com> wrote:
Understanding Jesus' Jewishness
As a Jew, I am proud that the most loving man in history was also a
Jew.
With Good Friday and the Holocaust Day of Remem-brance approaching on
April 6 and April 15, respectively, it is a good time to remember that
Judaism, the religion that Jesus piously practiced for himself, and
Christianity, the religion about Jesus, are unified in their devotion
to God, goodness and love.
Maybe it is also a good time to bring our attention to the irony that
on one hand Jesus devoted his lifetime to teach us love, and on the
other, some people use Jesus' sacrifice on the cross to teach hatred
toward the Jews.
Jesus belonged to the most persecuted minority in history. He was a
Jew, like those in the Nazi concentration camps. His family, apostles
and followers were also Jews. These people loved Jesus and mourned his
death. The fostering of hatred toward the Jews, or toward anyone, only
reverses the message of the most loving man in history. Jesus was love
and only what is for love is for Jesus.
Jews and Christians have differences in spiritual beliefs, but a
society that respects individual diversity is fertile ground for love
to flourish, and a place with love is a place with God.
Your opinion about Jesus might be a bit far to the "love" side.
(read the Gospel and you will find some darker side too)
but yes - provided he is not an invention - he was a Jew.
Likewise Buddha was a Hindu
and Mohammed probably was a heathen,
before they started preaching.
II suppose Jesus saw himself as a Jew too,
Very probably he believed the reforms he emcouraged,
were on the way back to the original ideas of Moses
(and as he very probably thought the essential will of God)
Personaly believe that the spiritual is something that only exists in
the (human) brain.
But like you I would like to see a bit more love and compassion there.
To many brains filled with hatred.
Can you tell me - as a Jew -
In stead of "thou shallt not covet" Jesus used the words "love thy
neigbour"
do you think the words mean the same
and whethet or not. What is you interpretation of this?
Peter van Velzen
Atheist#1107
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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| User: "Santolina chamaecyparissus" |
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| Title: Re: Jews remember Holocaust as Christians remember Jesus coming back from the dead |
05 Apr 2007 10:12:44 PM |
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On Apr 5, 10:53 am, "chuckie" <nighthawk6...@googlemail.com> wrote:
Understanding Jesus' Jewishness
As a Jew, I am proud that the most loving man in history was also a
Jew.
With Good Friday and the Holocaust Day of Remem-brance approaching on
April 6 and April 15, respectively, it is a good time to remember that
Judaism, the religion that Jesus piously practiced for himself,
Except for the bits He said you shouldn't bother observing.
Hate to break it to you, but the Jesus myth has Him both endorsing
every dot and iota of Judaism and also telling us that we needn't
bother with large parts of it. That's because (brace yourself) the
myth was cobbled together from multiple sources, some pious Jews and
some not. It's contradictory horseshit that doesn't make any sense
unless you yourself are a Christian who has somehow made peace with
the inherent cognitive disonance.
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