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08 Nov 2005 09:24:37 AM |
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Jimmy Carter's Endangered Values |
http://www.crosswalk.com/news/weblogs/mohler/?adate=11/07/2005
[excerpt]
Albert Mohler
Author, Speaker, President of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary
Monday, November 7, 2005
Jimmy Carter's Endangered Values
Former president Jimmy Carter has written yet another book -- his twentieth
-- and he has hit the media circuit in order to promote his latest project.
Our Endangered Values: America's Moral Crisis represents the former
president's return to familiar themes, even as it will add new layers of
confusion concerning his actual beliefs and values.
Jimmy Carter makes one central argument in this new book, and that is that
America (indeed civilization itself) is under attack by a sinister force.
In effect, he argues that a new specter now haunts civilization -- the
specter of Christian fundamentalism.
After tracing a series of crises faced by the United States and the larger
world, Mr. Carter places the blame squarely upon conservative Christians:
"The most important factor is that fundamentalists have become increasingly
influential in both religion and government, and have managed to change the
nuances and subtleties of historic debate into black-and-white rigidities
and the personal derogation of those who dare to disagree. At the same
time, these religious and political conservatives have melded their
efforts, bridging the formerly respected separation of church and state."
That's quite an argument, but those familiar with Jimmy Carter's mode of
public engagement will understand that this is merely the expansion (and
repetition) of what the former president has been saying ever since the
American people denied him a second term in the Oval Office.
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| Title: Re: Jimmy Carter's Endangered Values |
08 Nov 2005 06:20:08 PM |
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"The Fool" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
:|So, let me get this straight. A President is using his official
:|position to push a point of view concerning faith, and, suddenly, that
:|is ok with you. Are you the pot or the kettle now?
Which part of " Former president Jimmy Carter" didn't you comprehend dumb
dumb?
Contiune replying to my posts and making a comlete ***** of yourself. I love
it .
:|
:|buckeye-ELO@nospam.net wrote:
:|> http://www.crosswalk.com/news/weblogs/mohler/?adate=11/07/2005
:|> [excerpt]
:|>
:|> Albert Mohler
:|> Author, Speaker, President of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary
:|>
:|> Monday, November 7, 2005
:|>
:|> Jimmy Carter's Endangered Values
:|>
:|> Former president Jimmy Carter has written yet another book -- his twentieth
:|> -- and he has hit the media circuit in order to promote his latest project.
:|> Our Endangered Values: America's Moral Crisis represents the former
:|> president's return to familiar themes, even as it will add new layers of
:|> confusion concerning his actual beliefs and values.
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.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
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SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
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| Title: Re: Jimmy Carter's Endangered Values |
08 Nov 2005 09:26:40 PM |
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"The Fool" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
:|So, if he is not President, who cares what Jimmy Carter has to say.
Who cares what you have to say?
He wrote a book.
That was what the post pertained to. Nothing more, nothing less. Someone
was writing a review of his book.
You felt compelled to reply showing how stupid you are
I am beginning to think if it has my nick attached to it, it compels you to
reply without even reading it
I love it.
I love seeing you demonstrate over and over again how well you can stick
you foot into your mouth, your own ignorance.
You just aren't the brightest bulb in the room are you?
Do it again
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The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
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[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the U.S. and a couple from overseas as well]
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.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
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SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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| Title: Re: Jimmy Carter's Endangered Values |
08 Nov 2005 09:29:35 PM |
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(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
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:|Oh, I don't think Ken is as much ragging on Carter as he is
:|trying to shore up his contention that Carter is somehow
:|still a Presidantal Figure, and thus liberals who do not object
:|to Carter's frequent references to religion -- merely because
:|Carter does things which liberals approve of, such as trying
:|to feed the poor, heal the sick, and make peace -- are
:|acting hypocritically.
:|
:|-- cary
Or he is trying to distract from his showing of ignorance in his first
reply
To save some face
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American Theocrats - Past and Present
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The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
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HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
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[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the U.S. and a couple from overseas as well]
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.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
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SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
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| Title: Re: Jimmy Carter's Endangered Values |
08 Nov 2005 02:00:56 PM |
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On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 04:24:37 -0500, wrote:
Jimmy Carter makes one central argument in this new book, and that is that
America (indeed civilization itself) is under attack by a sinister force.
In effect, he argues that a new specter now haunts civilization -- the
specter of Christian fundamentalism.
And he's right
However, the good news is that it had been "under attack" about 80
years ago by the same forces, albeit not as well funded or
electronically savvy
When those "forces" coupled with government in the teens and twenties,
we got prohibition, William Jennings Bryan, and Scopes.
Happy face though---never fails that when religion dominates politics
it literally beats the ***** out of itself and eventually crawls back
under a rock (where it belongs)
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| Title: Re: Jimmy Carter's Endangered Values |
09 Nov 2005 07:54:20 AM |
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news:0nb1n198cmsr33hmn0f1fhil6o46i0em0h@4ax.com:
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 04:24:37 -0500, wrote:
Jimmy Carter makes one central argument in this new book, and that is
that America (indeed civilization itself) is under attack by a
sinister force. In effect, he argues that a new specter now haunts
civilization -- the specter of Christian fundamentalism.
my impression is that carter was one of the first pres candidates to increase pandering to the waks.
perhaps he had no choice? so, tried to co-opt the waks?
And he's right
However, the good news is that it had been "under attack" about 80
years ago by the same forces, albeit not as well funded or
electronically savvy
When those "forces" coupled with government in the teens and twenties,
we got prohibition, William Jennings Bryan, and Scopes.
Happy face though---never fails that when religion dominates politics
it literally beats the ***** out of itself
'Right about now, fuk your soul brothers'
and eventually crawls back
under a rock (where it belongs)
next door to the 'primordial ooze'?
--
...and on the First Day, the roomful of monkeys typed up a "Testament", but The Editor-in-chief sent it back. And the results
became even more afflictive over the course of the Following Days. So The Editor Declared the Testament to be fit for sale. And
so it passed upon all men. And It didn't smell so swell.
http://www.google.com/search?q=on-the-First-Day+god+~screw+|+~jet+|+~wabbit+|+~dung+|+~balls+|+~pasta+|+~weebles
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